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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:48 am |
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A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
Ken Seto |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:49 am |
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On Oct 30, 9:48 am, kenseto <kens... at (no spam) erinet.com> wrote:
[quote]A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
Ken Seto
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How much money do you think it should cost to do those experiments
properly? |
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| Inertial... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:51 am |
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"kenseto" <kenseto at (no spam) erinet.com> wrote in message
news:2defc8c1-9451-4d35-9688-a1237b1e2b71 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
[quote]A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
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Link doesn't work
[quote]This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
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What a load of absolute crap |
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| Sam Wormley... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:32 am |
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kenseto wrote:
[quote]A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
Ken Seto
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The concept of absolute motion requires an absolute reference
frame and physics doesn't need one nor does any exist. It's all
in your head, Seto.
I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that
you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way.
Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they
tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative
motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0,
and that dv/dt = 0 .
Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as
∆t_B' = γ ∆t_B
and B measures A's time dilation as
∆t_A' = γ ∆t_A
where ∆t represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity
between A and B, and γ = 1/√(1-v^2/c^2) . |
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| kenseto... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:57 am |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:00 am |
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On Oct 30, 10:51 am, "Inertial" <relativ... at (no spam) rest.com> wrote:
[quote]"kenseto" <kens... at (no spam) erinet.com> wrote in message
news:2defc8c1-9451-4d35-9688-a1237b1e2b71 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
Link doesn't work
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Sorry try the following link:
http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008experiment.pdf
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This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
What a load of absolute crap
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You are a fcuking moron. You have not read the paper and you shoot you
fucking mouth off. |
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| kenseto... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:06 am |
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On Oct 30, 11:32Â am, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]kenseto wrote:
A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
Ken Seto
  The concept of absolute motion requires an absolute reference
  frame and physics doesn't need one nor does any exist. It's all
  in your head, Seto.
  I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that
  you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way.
  Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they
  tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative
  motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0,
  and that dv/dt = 0 .
  Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as
   ∆t_B' = γ ∆t_B
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Hey idiot I already told you that this is wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
OR
Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma
Ken Seto
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  and B measures A's time dilation as
   ∆t_A' = γ ∆t_A
  where ∆t represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity
  between A and B, and γ = 1/√(1-v^2/c^2) .[/quote] |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:08 am |
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On Oct 30, 1:06Â pm, kenseto <kens... at (no spam) erinet.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 30, 11:32Â am, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
kenseto wrote:
A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
Ken Seto
  The concept of absolute motion requires an absolute reference
  frame and physics doesn't need one nor does any exist. It's all
  in your head, Seto.
  I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that
  you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way.
  Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they
  tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative
  motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0,
  and that dv/dt = 0 .
  Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as
   ∆t_B' = γ ∆t_B
Hey idiot I already told you that this is  wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
   Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
   OR
   Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma
Ken Seto
  and B measures A's time dilation as
   ∆t_A' = γ ∆t_A
  where ∆t represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity
  between A and B, and γ = 1/√(1-v^2/c^2) .- Hide quoted text -
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We can determine absolute new motion because it creates weight. Change
creates weight and weight resists further change of motion in the
aether. Without weight motion change would go out of control.
Mitch Raemsch |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:19 pm |
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On Oct 30, 5:06 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]kenseto wrote:
Hey idiot I already told you that this is wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
OR
Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma
Using your equation
Delta(t_A)/gamma = Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
Delta(t_A)/gamma = gamma*Delta(t_A)
1/gamma = gamma
gamma = 1
And you think I'm an idiot?
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Closing velocity means that light moves (at C) in opposite directions
is and seperating in space at 2C. Every object has its own motion in
absolute space-aether. Gamma math for speed is determined by speed/
flow of energy.
Mitch Raemsch |
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| eric gisse... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:54 pm |
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kenseto wrote:
[quote]A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
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Really Ken? The photoelectric effect and the double slit experiment?
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Ken Seto[/quote] |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:06 pm |
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kenseto wrote:
[quote]
Hey idiot I already told you that this is wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
OR
Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma
Using your equation[/quote]
Delta(t_A)/gamma = Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
Delta(t_A)/gamma = gamma*Delta(t_A)
1/gamma = gamma
gamma = 1
And you think I'm an idiot? |
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| eric gisse... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:16 pm |
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kenseto wrote:
[quote]On Oct 30, 11:32 am, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
kenseto wrote:
A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
Ken Seto
The concept of absolute motion requires an absolute reference
frame and physics doesn't need one nor does any exist. It's all
in your head, Seto.
I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that
you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way.
Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they
tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative
motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0,
and that dv/dt = 0 .
Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as
?t_B' = ? ?t_B
Hey idiot I already told you that this is wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
OR
Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma
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Show us how you obtain this prediction.
<watches as Ken copies from his high school physics book>
[quote]
Ken Seto
and B measures A's time dilation as
?t_A' = ? ?t_A
where ?t represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity
between A and B, and ? = 1/?(1-v^2/c^2) .[/quote] |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:14 pm |
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:02 pm |
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:47 am |
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On Oct 30, 8:06 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]kenseto wrote:
Hey idiot I already told you that this is wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
OR
Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma
Using your equation
Delta(t_A)/gamma = Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
Delta(t_A)/gamma = gamma*Delta(t_A)
1/gamma = gamma
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No idiot if the observed clock is running sow you use the factor of 1/
gamma and if the observed clock is running fast you use the factor of
gamma.
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gamma = 1
And you think I'm an idiot?
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Yes you are an idiot.
Ken Seto |
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