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| Eugene Griessel... |
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:38:01 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum
<jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 5, 9:23 am, Eugene Griessel <eug... at (no spam) dynagen.co.za> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:13:07 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com
wrote:
"Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message <y9KdnbOm6fOyE23XnZ2dnUVZ8h5i4... at (no spam) bt.com>, Andrew Swallow
am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> writes
No. Weapons are most likely to hurt your self. So the ban on suicide
bans weapons.
And this is why we don't arm soldiers, because they'll only kill
themselves with their firearms...?
Possibly why in Britain soldiers have to put away their weapons
when off duty.
LOL
Everything is possible
Now change soldiers to police.
By the way, explain to us why in rhe US, with over 300,000,000 guns in
private hands, there are only about 900 fatal accidents annually, while with
about the same number of cars, there are over 42,000 accidental deaths.
Oh and about 8,000,000,000,000 billion rounds of ammo are fired off with
those guns annually.
Do you have stats for suicides involving guns? I know it's pretty low
around these parts!
Your claim does not hold water
Of course not - it was a wild and stupid claim.
Eugene L Griessel
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the
stupidity of your action.
- I post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated 52,447
deliberate and 23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries in the
United States during 2000. The majority of gun-related deaths in the
United States are suicides,[5] with firearms used in 16,907 suicides
in the United States during 2004.[6]
[/quote]
Mmmmm. By my calculations you guys are well below the international
average. You will have to work harder! That tally, if you were
keeping pace with the rest of the world, should be around 24000 per
annum! (That is suicides by gunshot.) As for the estimated
deliberate attempts - that's fewer than half of what the rest of the
world is achieving. Obviously the US is not very suicidal!
Eugene L Griessel
Learning to dislike children at an early age saves a lot of expense
and aggravation later in life.
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| Jack Linthicum... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:29 am |
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On Nov 6, 8:24 am, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
[quote]"Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:gJ6dne49saj4P27XnZ2dnUVZ8jti4p2d at (no spam) bt.com...
SaPeIsMa wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ed8e2165-d442-41fc-a0a7-1a716c67f75c at (no spam) e34g2000vbc.googlegroups.com....
On Nov 5, 4:20 pm, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:61bd78b0-34f5-4752-a5c8-a91543e83206 at (no spam) a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com....
On Nov 5, 7:13 am, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
"Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:nZudnZZBastD5G_XnZ2dnUVZ8rNi4p2d at (no spam) bt.com...
Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message <y9KdnbOm6fOyE23XnZ2dnUVZ8h5i4... at (no spam) bt.com>, Andrew
Swallow
am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> writes
No. Weapons are most likely to hurt your self. So the ban on
suicide
bans weapons.
And this is why we don't arm soldiers, because they'll only kill
themselves with their firearms...?
Possibly why in Britain soldiers have to put away their weapons
when off duty.
LOL
Everything is possible
Now change soldiers to police.
By the way, explain to us why in rhe US, with over 300,000,000 guns in
private hands, there are only about 900 fatal accidents annually,
while
with
about the same number of cars, there are over 42,000 accidental
deaths.
Oh and about 8,000,000,000,000 billion rounds of ammo are fired off
with
those guns annually.
Your claim does not hold water
I als notice that you shied away from answering my post.
#
# First, few people drink and shoot
#
And ?
Are you trying to make a point, excuses, what ?
#
# Well, in very simple words, especially pared down to your apparent
# ability to understand the written English word, there is a phrase used
# in automobile safety slogans "don't drink and drive".
So in your simple world ALL car accidents are because people drink and
drive ?
Are you really this stupid and ignorant ?
Or do you practise for it ?
This is fun.
SaPeIsMa Do you realise that you are arguing with *pro* gun people?
Whent your "arguments" are stupid, then I'm arguing with stupid people.
[/quote]
Alan Lothian's credo about people who don't use their real names when
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| Peter Skelton... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:33 am |
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:38:40 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Peter Skelton <skeltonp at (no spam) cogeco.ca> wrote:
:On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:01:50 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
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:>Peter Skelton <skeltonp at (no spam) cogeco.ca> wrote:
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:>:On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:36:02 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:>:<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
:>:
:>:>Eugene Griessel <eugene at (no spam) dynagen.co.za> wrote:
:>:
:>:>:
:>:> o you have stats for suicides involving guns? I know it's pretty low
:>:>:around these parts!
:>:>:
:>:
:>:>Suicides make up around 56% of all gun deaths in the United States. In
:>:>2006 there were 16,883 firearm suicides. However, since suicides will
:>:>typically find some method other than firearms if a firearm is not
:>:>available, I consider that number to be pretty meaningless.
:>:
:>:So we can add suicide to the lengthy list of things you knwo
:>:nothing about.
:>:
:
:><yawn
:
:>So how does Scotland manage a much higher suicide rate without all
:>those guns to 'encourage' them, Peter?
:
:>Canada's suicide rate is also higher than that of the United States.
:
:>Explain?
:
:Your contention that potential suicides will typically change
:method if one is not avaiable is nonsense Fred,
:
Your evasion of the question is noted. Scotland has gun control. The
Scottish suicide rate is MUCH higher than that of the US. Canada has
gun control. The Canadian suicide rate is higher than that of the US.
Your shift of ground was noticed. Your use of obsolete data is[/quote]
also noticed. Even on the old (2000) data, no sane statistician
would conclude that Canadian and US male rates are different, let
alone forward copnclusions about causation. You're horribly
dishonest Fred.
[quote]Again, how do you explain how they accomplish that if they don't opt
for a different method because of the unavailability of firearms?
Perhaps cultures, economic conditions or some other uncontrolled[/quote]
varaible intrudes.
[quote]:
:Yes, I'm calling you an idiot and deliberate liar. I insulted you
:first, it really happened this time. Treasure it, I've given you
:the chance to be both insulting and truthful.
:
You always do, Peter. You always do. And, as usual, I'm not
interested in your stupid little games.
Hence your reply. BTW, you are deep in falsehood where I dare not[/quote]
follow.
[quote]If you can't address the issue, why do you even bother?
[/quote]
I point out your lies and idiocy when it t5hey get too extreme,
as in this case.
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| SaPeIsMa... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:24 am |
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"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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[quote]SaPeIsMa wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ed8e2165-d442-41fc-a0a7-1a716c67f75c at (no spam) e34g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 4:20 pm, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:61bd78b0-34f5-4752-a5c8-a91543e83206 at (no spam) a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 7:13 am, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
"Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:nZudnZZBastD5G_XnZ2dnUVZ8rNi4p2d at (no spam) bt.com...
Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message <y9KdnbOm6fOyE23XnZ2dnUVZ8h5i4... at (no spam) bt.com>, Andrew
Swallow
am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> writes
No. Weapons are most likely to hurt your self. So the ban on
suicide
bans weapons.
And this is why we don't arm soldiers, because they'll only kill
themselves with their firearms...?
Possibly why in Britain soldiers have to put away their weapons
when off duty.
LOL
Everything is possible
Now change soldiers to police.
By the way, explain to us why in rhe US, with over 300,000,000 guns in
private hands, there are only about 900 fatal accidents annually,
while
with
about the same number of cars, there are over 42,000 accidental
deaths.
Oh and about 8,000,000,000,000 billion rounds of ammo are fired off
with
those guns annually.
Your claim does not hold water
I als notice that you shied away from answering my post.
#
# First, few people drink and shoot
#
And ?
Are you trying to make a point, excuses, what ?
#
# Well, in very simple words, especially pared down to your apparent
# ability to understand the written English word, there is a phrase used
# in automobile safety slogans "don't drink and drive".
So in your simple world ALL car accidents are because people drink and
drive ?
Are you really this stupid and ignorant ?
Or do you practise for it ?
This is fun.
SaPeIsMa Do you realise that you are arguing with *pro* gun people?
[/quote]
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| Iain Rae... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:37 am |
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On 05/11/09 20:33, Andrew Swallow wrote:
[quote]Fred J. McCall wrote:
{snip}
The suicide rate in Scotland is much higher (by some 50%) than the
suicide rate in the United States. Explain.
Depression caused by Glasgow plus insufficient sun.
Andrew Swallow
The standard Scots reply is that we have to live next to the English and[/quote]
are traditionally allied with the French. |
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| Fred J. McCall... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:40 am |
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Peter Skelton <skeltonp at (no spam) cogeco.ca> wrote:
:On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:38:40 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
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:>Peter Skelton <skeltonp at (no spam) cogeco.ca> wrote:
:>
:>:On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:01:50 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:>:<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
:>:
:>:>Peter Skelton <skeltonp at (no spam) cogeco.ca> wrote:
:>:>
:>:>:On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:36:02 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:>:>:<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
:>:>:
:>:>:>Eugene Griessel <eugene at (no spam) dynagen.co.za> wrote:
:>:>:>
:>:>:>:
:>:>:>o you have stats for suicides involving guns? I know it's pretty low
:>:>:>:around these parts!
:>:>:>:
:>:>:>
:>:>:>Suicides make up around 56% of all gun deaths in the United States. In
:>:>:>2006 there were 16,883 firearm suicides. However, since suicides will
:>:>:>typically find some method other than firearms if a firearm is not
:>:>:>available, I consider that number to be pretty meaningless.
:>:>:
:>:>:So we can add suicide to the lengthy list of things you knwo
:>:>:nothing about.
:>:>:
:>:>
:>:><yawn>
:>:>
:>:>So how does Scotland manage a much higher suicide rate without all
:>:>those guns to 'encourage' them, Peter?
:>:>
:>:>Canada's suicide rate is also higher than that of the United States.
:>:>
:>:>Explain?
:>:
:>:Your contention that potential suicides will typically change
:>:method if one is not avaiable is nonsense Fred,
:>:
:>
:>Your evasion of the question is noted. Scotland has gun control. The
:>Scottish suicide rate is MUCH higher than that of the US. Canada has
:>gun control. The Canadian suicide rate is higher than that of the US.
:>
:
:Your shift of ground was noticed.
:
There was no 'shift of ground'. I'm not responsible for your
stupidity preventing you from following a discussion.
:
:Your use of obsolete data is
:also noticed.
:
Yes, you've noted it even when it didn't occur.
:
:Even on the old (2000) data, ...
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Which nobody was using.
:
:... no sane statistician
:would conclude that Canadian and US male rates are different,
:
Uh, I don't know how to break it to you, but suicide rates don't just
include men. You're making up a new line.
:
:let
:alone forward copnclusions about causation. You're horribly
:dishonest Fred.
:
There is dishonesty, right enough. You've already admitted that
you're the one engaging in it.
:>Again, how do you explain how they accomplish that if they don't opt
:>for a different method because of the unavailability of firearms?
:>
:Perhaps cultures, economic conditions or some other uncontrolled
:varaible intrudes.
:
So they presumably will substitute some other means for guns if guns
are not available.
:>:
:>:Yes, I'm calling you an idiot and deliberate liar. I insulted you
:>:first, it really happened this time. Treasure it, I've given you
:>:the chance to be both insulting and truthful.
:>:
:>
:>You always do, Peter. You always do. And, as usual, I'm not
:>interested in your stupid little games.
:>
:Hence your reply. BTW, you are deep in falsehood where I dare not
:follow.
:
And yet you are unable to point to a single falsehood, other than the
lies you've made up.
:>If you can't address the issue, why do you even bother?
:
:I point out your lies and idiocy when it t5hey get too extreme,
:as in this case.
:
Goodbye again, you pathetic fuckwit.
--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain |
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| Peter Skelton... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:29 pm |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:40:15 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Peter Skelton <skeltonp at (no spam) cogeco.ca> wrote:
:On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:38:40 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
:
:>Peter Skelton <skeltonp at (no spam) cogeco.ca> wrote:
:
:>:On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:01:50 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:>:<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
:>:
:>:>Peter Skelton <skeltonp at (no spam) cogeco.ca> wrote:
:>:
:>:>:On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:36:02 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:>:>:<fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
:>:>:
:>:>:>Eugene Griessel <eugene at (no spam) dynagen.co.za> wrote:
:>:>:
:>:>:>:
:>:>:>o you have stats for suicides involving guns? I know it's pretty low
:>:>:>:around these parts!
:>:>:>:
:>:>:
:>:>:>Suicides make up around 56% of all gun deaths in the United States. In
:>:>:>2006 there were 16,883 firearm suicides. However, since suicides will
:>:>:>typically find some method other than firearms if a firearm is not
:>:>:>available, I consider that number to be pretty meaningless.
:>:>:
:>:>:So we can add suicide to the lengthy list of things you knwo
:>:>:nothing about.
:>:>:
:>:
:>:><yawn
:>:
:>:>So how does Scotland manage a much higher suicide rate without all
:>:>those guns to 'encourage' them, Peter?
:>:
:>:>Canada's suicide rate is also higher than that of the United States.
:>:
:>:>Explain?
:>:
:>:Your contention that potential suicides will typically change
:>:method if one is not avaiable is nonsense Fred,
:>:
:
:>Your evasion of the question is noted. Scotland has gun control. The
:>Scottish suicide rate is MUCH higher than that of the US. Canada has
:>gun control. The Canadian suicide rate is higher than that of the US.
:
:
:Your shift of ground was noticed.
:
There was no 'shift of ground'. I'm not responsible for your
stupidity preventing you from following a discussion.
:
:Your use of obsolete data is
:also noticed.
:
Yes, you've noted it even when it didn't occur.
:
:Even on the old (2000) data, ...
:
Which nobody was using.
In which case, you are simply lying. Bugger off Fred.[/quote]
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| Richard Casady... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:26 pm |
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:46:48 +0000, William Black
<william.black at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
[quote]Guns make suicide easy and quick.
[/quote]
Usually. Somtimes some poor bastard will put the gun to the side of
the head and too far forward, causing blindness.
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| SaPeIsMa... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:24 pm |
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"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 6, 8:24 am, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
[quote]"Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:gJ6dne49saj4P27XnZ2dnUVZ8jti4p2d at (no spam) bt.com...
SaPeIsMa wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ed8e2165-d442-41fc-a0a7-1a716c67f75c at (no spam) e34g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 4:20 pm, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:61bd78b0-34f5-4752-a5c8-a91543e83206 at (no spam) a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 7:13 am, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
"Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:nZudnZZBastD5G_XnZ2dnUVZ8rNi4p2d at (no spam) bt.com...
Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message <y9KdnbOm6fOyE23XnZ2dnUVZ8h5i4... at (no spam) bt.com>, Andrew
Swallow
am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> writes
No. Weapons are most likely to hurt your self. So the ban on
suicide
bans weapons.
And this is why we don't arm soldiers, because they'll only kill
themselves with their firearms...?
Possibly why in Britain soldiers have to put away their weapons
when off duty.
LOL
Everything is possible
Now change soldiers to police.
By the way, explain to us why in rhe US, with over 300,000,000 guns
in
private hands, there are only about 900 fatal accidents annually,
while
with
about the same number of cars, there are over 42,000 accidental
deaths.
Oh and about 8,000,000,000,000 billion rounds of ammo are fired off
with
those guns annually.
Your claim does not hold water
I als notice that you shied away from answering my post.
#
# First, few people drink and shoot
#
And ?
Are you trying to make a point, excuses, what ?
#
# Well, in very simple words, especially pared down to your apparent
# ability to understand the written English word, there is a phrase
used
# in automobile safety slogans "don't drink and drive".
So in your simple world ALL car accidents are because people drink and
drive ?
Are you really this stupid and ignorant ?
Or do you practise for it ?
This is fun.
SaPeIsMa Do you realise that you are arguing with *pro* gun people?
Whent your "arguments" are stupid, then I'm arguing with stupid people.
#[/quote]
# Alan Lothian's credo about people who don't use their real names when
# posting seems to be holding up quite well.
Which again proves my point that you are stupid
Since you have no clue as to my name, you are not in any position to know if
my nym is my name, or a part of it.
Stupid assumptions lead to stupid conclusions and make an ass of you |
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| Fred J. McCall... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:31 pm |
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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
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:Which again proves my point that you are stupid
:Since you have no clue as to my name, you are not in any position to know if
:my nym is my name, or a part of it.
:Stupid assumptions lead to stupid conclusions and make an ass of you
:
No, I think it just demonstrates things about YOU.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
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| SaPeIsMa... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:17 pm |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote in message
news:FtadnTThScZIdWnXnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d at (no spam) posted.cpinternet...
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
#
# Alan Lothian's credo about people who don't use their real names when
# posting seems to be holding up quite well.
Which again proves my point that you are stupid
Since you have no clue as to my name, you are not in any position to
know if
my nym is my name, or a part of it.
Stupid assumptions lead to stupid conclusions and make an ass of you
No, I think it just demonstrates things about YOU.
[/quote]
Keep whining, freddie
It's the only thing you do well |
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| Fred J. McCall... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:06 pm |
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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
:news:9vt9f5l2kchuas4a91sftb8r7bpbk6ba2f at (no spam) 4ax.com...
:>> "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote in message
:>> news:FtadnTThScZIdWnXnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d at (no spam) posted.cpinternet...
:>>
:>> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
:> #
:>> # Alan Lothian's credo about people who don't use their real names when
:>> # posting seems to be holding up quite well.
:>> >
:>> > Which again proves my point that you are stupid
:>> > Since you have no clue as to my name, you are not in any position to
:>> > know if
:>> > my nym is my name, or a part of it.
:>> Stupid assumptions lead to stupid conclusions and make an ass of you
:>
:>
:> No, I think it just demonstrates things about YOU.
:>
:
:Keep whining, freddie
:It's the only thing you do well
:
No whine. Just noting the fact. If you don't like people noticing
what a stupid twat you are, you need to work harder at concealing it.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
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| Jack Linthicum... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:11 am |
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On Nov 9, 3:54 pm, "Jeffrey Hamilton" <bberesf... at (no spam) cogeco.ca> wrote:
[quote]Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:33 am, Eugene Griessel <eug... at (no spam) dynagen.co.za> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:38:01 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum
jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
On Nov 5, 9:23 am, Eugene Griessel <eug... at (no spam) dynagen.co.za> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:13:07 -0600, "SaPeIsMa"
SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
"Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:nZudnZZBastD5G_XnZ2dnUVZ8rNi4p2d at (no spam) bt.com...
Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message <y9KdnbOm6fOyE23XnZ2dnUVZ8h5i4... at (no spam) bt.com>, Andrew
Swallow <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> writes
No. Weapons are most likely to hurt your self. So the ban on
suicide bans weapons.
And this is why we don't arm soldiers, because they'll only kill
themselves with their firearms...?
Possibly why in Britain soldiers have to put away their weapons
when off duty.
LOL
Everything is possible
Now change soldiers to police.
By the way, explain to us why in rhe US, with over 300,000,000
guns in private hands, there are only about 900 fatal accidents
annually, while with about the same number of cars, there are
over 42,000 accidental deaths.
Oh and about 8,000,000,000,000 billion rounds of ammo are fired
off with those guns annually.
Do you have stats for suicides involving guns? I know it's pretty
low around these parts!
Your claim does not hold water
Of course not - it was a wild and stupid claim.
Eugene L Griessel
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the
stupidity of your action.
- I post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated
52,447 deliberate and 23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries
in the United States during 2000. The majority of gun-related
deaths in the United States are suicides,[5] with firearms used in
16,907 suicides in the United States during 2004.[6]
Mmmmm. By my calculations you guys are well below the international
average. You will have to work harder! That tally, if you were
keeping pace with the rest of the world, should be around 24000 per
annum! (That is suicides by gunshot.) As for the estimated
deliberate attempts - that's fewer than half of what the rest of the
world is achieving. Obviously the US is not very suicidal!
Eugene L Griessel
Learning to dislike children at an early age saves a lot of expense
and aggravation later in life.
- I post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
No, if anyone feels suicidal they move to Idaho or Florida.
Now Florida I can understand, it's only one Tsunami/tidal wave away from
obliteration, but Idaho ? Whats the worse thing that can happen in Idaho,
*potato blight* ?
cheers.......Jeff
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Californication |
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| SaPeIsMa... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:14 pm |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote:
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
:news:9vt9f5l2kchuas4a91sftb8r7bpbk6ba2f at (no spam) 4ax.com...
:>> "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa at (no spam) HotMail.com> wrote in message
:>> news:FtadnTThScZIdWnXnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d at (no spam) posted.cpinternet...
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:>> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
:> #
:>> # Alan Lothian's credo about people who don't use their real names
when
:>> # posting seems to be holding up quite well.
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:>> > Which again proves my point that you are stupid
:>> > Since you have no clue as to my name, you are not in any position to
:>> > know if
:>> > my nym is my name, or a part of it.
:>> Stupid assumptions lead to stupid conclusions and make an ass of you
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:> No, I think it just demonstrates things about YOU.
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:Keep whining, freddie
:It's the only thing you do well
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No whine. Just noting the fact. If you don't like people noticing
what a stupid twat you are, you need to work harder at concealing it.
--
[/quote]
As I wrote earlier
Stupid assumptions lead you to stupid conclusions
But then, thinking was never your strong suit. |
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| Jeffrey Hamilton... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:49 pm |
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Eugene Griessel wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:38:01 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum
jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
On Nov 5, 9:23 am, Eugene Griessel <eug... at (no spam) dynagen.co.za> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:13:07 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI... at (no spam) HotMail.com
wrote:
"Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:nZudnZZBastD5G_XnZ2dnUVZ8rNi4p2d at (no spam) bt.com...
Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message <y9KdnbOm6fOyE23XnZ2dnUVZ8h5i4... at (no spam) bt.com>, Andrew
Swallow <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> writes
No. Weapons are most likely to hurt your self. So the ban on
suicide bans weapons.
And this is why we don't arm soldiers, because they'll only kill
themselves with their firearms...?
Possibly why in Britain soldiers have to put away their weapons
when off duty.
LOL
Everything is possible
Now change soldiers to police.
By the way, explain to us why in rhe US, with over 300,000,000
guns in private hands, there are only about 900 fatal accidents
annually, while with about the same number of cars, there are over
42,000 accidental deaths.
Oh and about 8,000,000,000,000 billion rounds of ammo are fired
off with those guns annually.
Do you have stats for suicides involving guns? I know it's pretty
low around these parts!
Your claim does not hold water
Of course not - it was a wild and stupid claim.
Eugene L Griessel
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the
stupidity of your action.
- I post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated 52,447
deliberate and 23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries in the
United States during 2000. The majority of gun-related deaths in the
United States are suicides,[5] with firearms used in 16,907 suicides
in the United States during 2004.[6]
Mmmmm. By my calculations you guys are well below the international
average. You will have to work harder! That tally, if you were
keeping pace with the rest of the world, should be around 24000 per
annum! (That is suicides by gunshot.) As for the estimated
deliberate attempts - that's fewer than half of what the rest of the
world is achieving. Obviously the US is not very suicidal!
[/quote]
So few people, such large aspirations ! Still Eugene, if they keep plugging
away, maybe one day.....
cheers....Jeff
[quote]
Eugene L Griessel
Learning to dislike children at an early age saves a lot of expense
and aggravation later in life.
- I post only from Sci.Military.Naval -[/quote] |
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