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| Jack Linthicum... |
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A throwback to prehistoric times
By Clarence Plank: PNT staff writer
2009-10-28 21:16:36
When it comes to hunting, technology has advanced a great deal since
the days of slinging spears or rocks to bring down large animals for
food.
This Saturday, residents can see the tool prehistoric hunters used
when modern-day competitors compete in 9th annual Atlatl Throw at the
Blackwater Draw dig site.
At one time, the Atlatl was used for hunting and warfare world-wide,
said David Batten assistant professor of anthropology at Eastern New
Mexico University.
“It is a weapon that has been invented multiple times in different
places,” Batten said. “It has been used on every continent and in
Australia.
“There is some evidence that it was used in the southwest when the
Spanish came.”
The ENMU Department of Anthropology and Applied Archaeology, Mu Alpha
Nu Anthropology Club and the Blackwater Draw archaeological site are
hosting the competition.
Registration starts at 9 a.m., with an hour long practice before the
competition begins at 10 a.m.
The competition for men and women has four targets, while the children
have just one.
Contestants get a couple of chances to hit the target and then move
onto the next.
Winners from the three groups will compete for the grand championship
afterwards.
Stacey Bennett, an ENMU graduate student in anthropology, is the
defending grand champion in Atlatl Throw. Bennett said she got
involved with Atlatl through the university and George Crawford, the
Blackwater Draw site Archaeologist.
“I was familiar with the Atlatl technology, but not the competition,”
Bennett said. “So I came last year as a guest and participated. It is
really exciting.”
This year Bennett is a member of Mu Alpha Nu Anthropology Club and a
student at Eastern so she is more involved in Anthropology.
Bennett said she is looking forward to having fun at the competition.
“We have a lot of people stretching from as far away as Albuquerque to
the Petroglyph National Monument,” Bennett said. “A lot of people come
from all over It is a lot of fun.
What: 9th Annual Atlatl Throw
Where: Blackwater Draw Site
When: 9 a.m., registration, 10 a.m., competition
Directions: The competition will be held at the Blackwater Draw Site,
not the museum. The dig site is located on N.M. 467 (the road from
Portales to Cannon AFB). The dig site is six miles from Portales, and
one mile north of Oasis State Park. |
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| Lee Olsen... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:50 am |
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On Oct 29, 4:01 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net>
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[quote]A throwback to prehistoric times
By Clarence Plank: PNT staff writer
2009-10-28 21:16:36
[...]
“We have a lot of people stretching from as far away as Albuquerque to
the Petroglyph National Monument,” Bennett said. “A lot of people come
from all over It is a lot of fun.
[/quote]
People aren't the only things that come from a long ways away at
Blackwater.
Two obsidian Clovis points found there have been sourced to the Jemez
Mountains,
New Mexico (350 km) and the Wild Horse Canyon in Utah (950 km). |
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| Jack Linthicum... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:54 am |
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On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 29, 4:01 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
A throwback to prehistoric times
By Clarence Plank: PNT staff writer
2009-10-28 21:16:36
[...]
“We have a lot of people stretching from as far away as Albuquerque to
the Petroglyph National Monument,” Bennett said. “A lot of people come
from all over It is a lot of fun.
People aren't the only things that come from a long ways away at
Blackwater.
Two obsidian Clovis points found there have been sourced to the Jemez
Mountains,
New Mexico (350 km) and the Wild Horse Canyon in Utah (950 km).
[/quote]
I would like to see someone write a thesis or book on the obvious
Clovis-era trade in obsidian and the believed nature of the Clovis
lifestyle. If the Clovis people hunted over a broad range did they
then come to some designated place to trade or do deeds for the
obsidian? The fur rendezvous seems to have had a predecessor. The area
of Clovis huntings is four or five million square miles, the meetings
would not necessarily be annual but you would need some sort of pre-
arranged place and time.
A little bit here
http://laszloart.com/ObsidianSamples.html |
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| Melodious Thunk... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:43 am |
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On Oct 29, 9:54 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net>
wrote:
[quote]On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 4:01 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
A throwback to prehistoric times
By Clarence Plank: PNT staff writer
2009-10-28 21:16:36
[...]
“We have a lot of people stretching from as far away as Albuquerque to
the Petroglyph National Monument,” Bennett said. “A lot of people come
from all over It is a lot of fun.
People aren't the only things that come from a long ways away at
Blackwater.
Two obsidian Clovis points found there have been sourced to the Jemez
Mountains,
New Mexico (350 km) and the Wild Horse Canyon in Utah (950 km).
I would like to see someone write a thesis or book on the obvious
Clovis-era trade in obsidian and the believed nature of the Clovis
lifestyle. If the Clovis people hunted over a broad range did they
then come to some designated place to trade or do deeds for the
obsidian? The fur rendezvous seems to have had a predecessor. The area
of Clovis huntings is four or five million square miles, the meetings
would not necessarily be annual but you would need some sort of pre-
arranged place and time.
A little bit here
http://laszloart.com/ObsidianSamples.html
[/quote]
Interesting link, thanks.
I've long thought of "Clovis" not as a people, but as a toolbox widely
disseminated through trade among many "peoples." That was the pattern
for all subsequent technological (& cultural) dissemination throughout
the americas; and there are too many "outliers" to take "Clovis first"
seriously. I suspect that current interpretation of DNA evidence is
"fooling us" into oversimplification of the peopling of the americas,
assuming my parents were wrong and we have not "always been here."
Cahokia & related centers of trade are pretty good antecedents to the
fur rendezvous of the 18th & 19th centuries you mentioned. So much can
& was done in plant/animal materials rather than stone, though, that
potential archaeological evidence will be tough to find. Perhaps more
examples in the americas can be found like those 9 kya wooden
artifacts in Sweden that you posted about. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:45 am |
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On Oct 29, 3:43 pm, Melodious Thunk <thunk.melodi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 29, 9:54 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 4:01 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
A throwback to prehistoric times
By Clarence Plank: PNT staff writer
2009-10-28 21:16:36
[...]
“We have a lot of people stretching from as far away as Albuquerque to
the Petroglyph National Monument,” Bennett said. “A lot of people come
from all over It is a lot of fun.
People aren't the only things that come from a long ways away at
Blackwater.
Two obsidian Clovis points found there have been sourced to the Jemez
Mountains,
New Mexico (350 km) and the Wild Horse Canyon in Utah (950 km).
I would like to see someone write a thesis or book on the obvious
Clovis-era trade in obsidian and the believed nature of the Clovis
lifestyle. If the Clovis people hunted over a broad range did they
then come to some designated place to trade or do deeds for the
obsidian? The fur rendezvous seems to have had a predecessor. The area
of Clovis huntings is four or five million square miles, the meetings
would not necessarily be annual but you would need some sort of pre-
arranged place and time.
A little bit here
http://laszloart.com/ObsidianSamples.html
Interesting link, thanks.
I've long thought of "Clovis" not as a people, but as a toolbox widely
disseminated through trade among many "peoples." That was the pattern
for all subsequent technological (& cultural) dissemination throughout
the americas; and there are too many "outliers" to take "Clovis first"
seriously. I suspect that current interpretation of DNA evidence is
"fooling us" into oversimplification of the peopling of the americas,
assuming my parents were wrong and we have not "always been here."
Cahokia & related centers of trade are pretty good antecedents to the
fur rendezvous of the 18th & 19th centuries you mentioned. So much can
& was done in plant/animal materials rather than stone, though, that
potential archaeological evidence will be tough to find. Perhaps more
examples in the americas can be found like those 9 kya wooden
artifacts in Sweden that you posted about.
[/quote]
Not that much peat in megafauna country. But the idea of the people
with their Clovis kit having a place and a time when they could expect
to trade for some of that long-distance obsidian or chert implies some
form of society. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:47 am |
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On Oct 29, 9:54 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net>
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[quote]On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 4:01 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
A throwback to prehistoric times
By Clarence Plank: PNT staff writer
2009-10-28 21:16:36
[...]
“We have a lot of people stretching from as far away as Albuquerque to
the Petroglyph National Monument,” Bennett said. “A lot of people come
from all over It is a lot of fun.
People aren't the only things that come from a long ways away at
Blackwater.
Two obsidian Clovis points found there have been sourced to the Jemez
Mountains,
New Mexico (350 km) and the Wild Horse Canyon in Utah (950 km).
I would like to see someone write a thesis or book on the obvious
Clovis-era trade in obsidian and the believed nature of the Clovis
lifestyle.
[/quote]
Try:
http://tinyurl.com/yh7x533
It's getting a little out-of-date, but one can always do a review on
the new stuff
since 1993, like your Meltzer book.
[quote]If the Clovis people hunted over a broad range did they
then come to some designated place to trade or do deeds for the
obsidian?
[/quote]
I'm not sure about obsidian, Clovis preferred the pretty cherts,
jaspers etc. when they could get it, so it is kind of hard to get a
handle
on Clovis obsidian use, but not so for chert. Chert they scattered all
over,
but I'll bet they found all the good obsidian sources too. Since most
of the Clovis points are found in the east where there isn't much
obsidian,
it kind of distorts the actual % they used I think.
[quote]The fur rendezvous seems to have had a predecessor. The area
of Clovis huntings is four or five million square miles, the meetings
would not necessarily be annual but you would need some sort of pre-
arranged place and time.
[/quote]
The Gault site in Texas seems to be such a rendezvous-like place IMO.
Lots of good flint, water, animals, and deep stratigraphy (but no
really
good dates), IOW, they really don't know how much time the
stratigraphy
represents. Collins thinks 400 years, but that can't be right per
Waters and
Stafford (2007), they say ca. 200 years total for Clovis.
The flint from Gault is found in many states, but little exotic
material is found there.
This means they fanned out and spread the majority of flint
elsewhere,
the little exotic rock means at least a few of them did return. Maybe
this
happended for generations, maybe it didn't, who knows.
In 'From Kostenki to Clovis' Dena Dincauze has a nice graph of the
quarry
sites in the NE and where fluted points from them have been
recovered.
It is simply amazing how far they were dragging material between
states.
She has a lot of directional arrows on the graph, I think there is
more heading
easterly, but I could be wrong.
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