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| David E. Powell... |
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Ares works, he'll go on record as the Prez who was finally able to get
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| Greg D. Moore (Strider)... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:01 pm |
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"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006 at (no spam) msn.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Ares works, he'll go on record as the Prez who was finally able to get
NASA to get a Post shuttle rocket off the pad![/quote] |
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| Greg D. Moore (Strider)... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:02 pm |
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"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006 at (no spam) msn.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Ares works, he'll go on record as the Prez who was finally able to get
NASA to get a Post shuttle rocket off the pad!
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It does? We've had one flight of a version that's not even really close to
the actual design.
We're a long ways from saying Ares works.
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Greg Moore
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| Jeff Findley... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:19 pm |
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"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006 at (no spam) msn.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Ares works, he'll go on record as the Prez who was finally able to get
NASA to get a Post shuttle rocket off the pad!
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By a very loose definition of "works". The video indicates that the stage
separation wasn't clean or there was recontact between the SRB and simulated
upper stage.
Jeff
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that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National
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| Brian Thorn... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:29 pm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:19:30 -0400, "Jeff Findley"
<jeff.findley at (no spam) ugs.nojunk.com> wrote:
[quote]Ares works, he'll go on record as the Prez who was finally able to get
NASA to get a Post shuttle rocket off the pad!
By a very loose definition of "works". The video indicates that the stage
separation wasn't clean or there was recontact between the SRB and simulated
upper stage.
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Shouldn't be a problem for the real McCoy if it has posigrade
seperation motors on the upper stage like Saturn.
Brian |
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| Brian Thorn... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:38 pm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:02:04 -0400, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
<mooregr_delet3th1s at (no spam) greenms.com> wrote:
[quote]We've had one flight of a version that's not even really close to
the actual design.
We're a long ways from saying Ares works.
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Sourpuss. :-)
Ares 1X did not:
- Crash into the tower.
- Wobble out of control.
- Lose roll control.
- Shake itself into thousands of tiny, flaming pieces.
- Vertically Oscillate the avionics and range safety packages into
junk vaguely reminiscent of a Commodore Amiga that's been run over by
an 18-wheeler.
All these dire predictions were made by various Ares-bashers. I even
thought a few of them were likely myself at the height of I Hate Ares
mania.*
Okay, the stage seperation wasn't perfect. It doesn't really look like
recontact to me, but instead a not quite clean sep. That's a good
thing to learn now.
Brian
*But I still think we should just put Orion on a Delta IV-Heavy and
move on to Ares V-Lite. |
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| Jorge R. Frank... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:48 pm |
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Brian Thorn wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:19:30 -0400, "Jeff Findley"
jeff.findley at (no spam) ugs.nojunk.com> wrote:
Ares works, he'll go on record as the Prez who was finally able to get
NASA to get a Post shuttle rocket off the pad!
By a very loose definition of "works". The video indicates that the stage
separation wasn't clean or there was recontact between the SRB and simulated
upper stage.
Shouldn't be a problem for the real McCoy if it has posigrade
seperation motors on the upper stage like Saturn.
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It does. |
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| Greg D. Moore (Strider)... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:29 pm |
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"Brian Thorn" <bthorn64 at (no spam) suddenlink.net> wrote in message
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[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:02:04 -0400, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
mooregr_delet3th1s at (no spam) greenms.com> wrote:
We've had one flight of a version that's not even really close to
the actual design.
We're a long ways from saying Ares works.
Sourpuss. 
- Vertically Oscillate the avionics and range safety packages into
junk vaguely reminiscent of a Commodore Amiga that's been run over by
an 18-wheeler.
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Actually, do we know that one? I mean since it wasn't activated, it's
possible it did shake itself apart. :-)
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Greg Moore
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| Brian Gaff... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:10 am |
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Well, all it really was was a Shuttle solid with more control gear and some
thrusters, gyros etc in my view. The thing is, what was the ride like.
Brian
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NASA to get a Post shuttle rocket off the pad![/quote] |
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