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GregS...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:50 am
Guest
In article <zwFGm.9075$Ah3.1565 at (no spam) newsfe01.ams2>, "Scrim" <nospam at (no spam) nospam.nospam> wrote:
[quote]Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers!

I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter it
will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk missing
any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there).

So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader
(terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering just
in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all round
compared to Windows Mail?

Scrim

[/quote]

I started to use Thunderbird, and is a very good newsreader, until
I managed to delete my mail. I went back to NX for usenet.

Having separate things for each is a good thing.

greg
 
David Nebenzahl...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:01 pm
Guest
On 10/30/2009 9:38 AM Scrim spake thus:

[quote]So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader
(terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering just
in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all round
compared to Windows Mail?
[/quote]
To answer your question, newsreader = news client = program to read
Usenet news = (usually) email program. All the same thing, comes in many
flavors. Mozilla Thunderbird is what I use and I like it, generally
(though it does suffer from some maladies which are due to "open source"
construction). It's free; why not just try it?


--
Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?

- harvested from Usenet
 
propman...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:23 pm
Guest
Scrim wrote:
[quote]Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers!

I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter
it will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk
missing any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there).

So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader
(terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering
just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all
round compared to Windows Mail?
[/quote]
If by "like that one from Mozilla" you are refering to Thunderbird, it
is not a dedicated newsreader. Thunderbird also has provisions for
email, RSS and newsgroups accounts. See the following for further details:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

FWIW, there is also a new release coming out shortly; you can grab the
beta version of it (3.04b) from the following location:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/early_releases/downloads/

Again, FWIW, I've been using in on my linux system since it was released
and am quite please with it. One of the upgrades for this version is
improved filtering capabilities.

One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to
the following free access newsgroup server:

http://www.eternal-september.org/

I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with
their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and
the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others
here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup.

You might also be interested in the following site for general
information on newsreaders, selecting news servers etc:

http://slyck.com/
 
GregS...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:12 pm
Guest
In article <hcfefu$gdn$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org>, propman <propman at (no spam) nowhere.ca> wrote:
[quote]Scrim wrote:
Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers!

I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter
it will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk
missing any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there).

So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader
(terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering
just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all
round compared to Windows Mail?

If by "like that one from Mozilla" you are refering to Thunderbird, it
is not a dedicated newsreader. Thunderbird also has provisions for
email, RSS and newsgroups accounts. See the following for further details:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

FWIW, there is also a new release coming out shortly; you can grab the
beta version of it (3.04b) from the following location:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/early_releases/downloads/

Again, FWIW, I've been using in on my linux system since it was released
and am quite please with it. One of the upgrades for this version is
improved filtering capabilities.

One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to
the following free access newsgroup server:

http://www.eternal-september.org/

I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with
their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and
the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others
here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup.

You might also be interested in the following site for general
information on newsreaders, selecting news servers etc:

http://slyck.com/



[/quote]

Funny it does not expplain Usenet at all and I don't use usenet to get
news.

Also funny, many of the newsreaders have turned me off, and I
continue to use an outdated News Express, even though it has
bugs with current opperating systems. It also does not archieve
past read posts, nor have spell checking, or index all the groups corectly,
but I love it.

Greg
 
propman...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:45 pm
Guest
Robert Macy wrote:
[quote]On Oct 30, 12:23 pm, propman <prop... at (no spam) nowhere.ca> wrote:
..snip...
One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to
the following free access newsgroup server:

http://www.eternal-september.org/

I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with
their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and
the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others
here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup.


I signed up. But, where do you find the newsgroups?
[/quote]
You'll need to install newsreader software like Thunderbird for example:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html
 
propman...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:55 pm
Guest
GregS wrote:
[quote]In article <hcfefu$gdn$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org>, propman <propman at (no spam) nowhere.ca> wrote:
Scrim wrote:
Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers!

I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter
it will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk
missing any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there).

So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader
(terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering
just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all
round compared to Windows Mail?
If by "like that one from Mozilla" you are refering to Thunderbird, it
is not a dedicated newsreader. Thunderbird also has provisions for
email, RSS and newsgroups accounts. See the following for further details:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

FWIW, there is also a new release coming out shortly; you can grab the
beta version of it (3.04b) from the following location:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/early_releases/downloads/

Again, FWIW, I've been using in on my linux system since it was released
and am quite please with it. One of the upgrades for this version is
improved filtering capabilities.

One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to
the following free access newsgroup server:

http://www.eternal-september.org/

I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with
their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and
the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others
here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup.

You might also be interested in the following site for general
information on newsreaders, selecting news servers etc:

http://slyck.com/




Funny it does not expplain Usenet at all
[/quote]

Guides: VIDEO Usenet Newsgroups | Usenet Newsgroups |

[quote]and I don't use usenet to get
news.
[/quote]
AFAIK, if you are receiving this newsgroup (which is part of usenet),
then you are using Usenet. :-)

Might want to take a read of the following:

http://slyck.com/story1870_Usenet_or_the_Newsgroups


[quote]
Also funny, many of the newsreaders have turned me off, and I
continue to use an outdated News Express, even though it has
bugs with current opperating systems. It also does not archieve
past read posts, nor have spell checking, or index all the groups corectly,
but I love it.
[/quote]
Heh! I hear ya.....just like old timers and Xnews....when they die they
are gonna have to pry it out their hands (figuratively speaking). Wink
 
David Nebenzahl...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:39 pm
Guest
On 10/30/2009 11:50 AM Robert Macy spake thus:

[quote]On Oct 30, 12:23 pm, propman <prop... at (no spam) nowhere.ca> wrote:
..snip...

One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to
the following free access newsgroup server:

http://www.eternal-september.org/

I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with
their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and
the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others
here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup.

I signed up. But, where do you find the newsgroups?
[/quote]
You gots to query the news server, which will then serve up a delicious
list of all its newsgroups. How to do that depends on what news client
you use: for Thunderbird, the command is "Manage newsgroup
subscriptions". Other programs may use some variation of "subscribe"
(which is a funny concept; you don't actually subscribe to a newsgroup,
but just add it to your list of newsgroups to choose from).


--
Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?

- harvested from Usenet
 
 
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