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| Scrim... |
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This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
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| Ken Layton... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:28 am |
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| Robert Macy... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:28 am |
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On Oct 28, 6:28 am, "Scrim" <nos... at (no spam) nospam.nospam> wrote:
[quote]This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
Scrim
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How do you gain access?
How do you read it?
I use google for access and read using Opera 9.64 on Win98
As a result, 70-80% of the postings show up.
I've been told to PAY for better access. Yeah, that makes sense. I
should pay for something when the ones gaining, the spammers, should
pay.
So, what to do?
There is another thread here that shows a java script to highlight the
spam so it's very easy to ignore |
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| Adrian C... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:41 am |
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Scrim wrote:
[quote]This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
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You need to install filters in your usenet program to drop threads
featuring subjects and senders including words such as shoes, nike,
wholesale ...
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| Rich Webb... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:57 am |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim" <nospam at (no spam) nospam.nospam>
wrote:
[quote]This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
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The only sure fix is to take control of your own news feed and filter it
aggressively before the feed gets to your client.
One approach is to install a local server on the same PC as your usenet
client. The server connects upstream, filters the traffic, and then
supplies your client application, typically through the loopback IP.
As a server it has access to the complete contents of every posting: all
header lines and the body text. That presents opportunities for
filtering that just are not possible when only a limited set of headers
are used.
See <http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/index.html> for some
examples.
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| TonyS... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:06 am |
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Scrim wrote:
[quote]This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
Scrim
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I've just been through this experience myself and am still wondering why it is
only this group for me.
Anyway, I have a message filter now that looks for "cheap, wholesale, shoes,
handbags, retail, quality", you get the drift 
Works so far. (in Thunderbird)
Still, it's a mystery. Some say google is the culprit, probably true.
They bought dejanews and the rest is history.
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| Meat Plow... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:12 am |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim"
<nospam at (no spam) nospam.nospam>wrote:
[quote]This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
Scrim
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I guess Virgin doesn't filter it out for you so you'll have to do it
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| Ron... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:45 am |
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Meat Plow wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim"
nospam at (no spam) nospam.nospam>wrote:
This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
Scrim
I guess Virgin doesn't filter it out for you so you'll have to do it
yourself.
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Just get a decent newsreader, I use Thunderbird. Set filters to junk all
messages from the following
at (no spam) yeah.net
at (no spam) live.cn - in fact any .cn
at (no spam) 126.com
at (no spam) 163.com
and all at (no spam) .gmail
(You might miss a few genuine posts by blocking gmail, but it`a small
price to pay. Anyone serious tends to not use gmail/hotmail/yahoo etc.)
You can check the filter logs from time to time and any posters you
inadvertently filtered out, you can add back in individually.
When ever you get spam, add the address to the list.
Ron |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:04 am |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:45:00 +0000, Ron <ron at (no spam) lunevalleyaudio.com>
wrote:
[quote]Meat Plow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim"
nospam at (no spam) nospam.nospam>wrote:
This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
Scrim
I guess Virgin doesn't filter it out for you so you'll have to do it
yourself.
Just get a decent newsreader, I use Thunderbird. Set filters to junk all
messages from the following
at (no spam) yeah.net
at (no spam) live.cn - in fact any .cn
at (no spam) 126.com
at (no spam) 163.com
and all at (no spam) .gmail
(You might miss a few genuine posts by blocking gmail, but it`a small
price to pay. Anyone serious tends to not use gmail/hotmail/yahoo etc.)
You can check the filter logs from time to time and any posters you
inadvertently filtered out, you can add back in individually.
When ever you get spam, add the address to the list.
Ron
I use Agent, but I don't filter anything. All the groups I subscribe[/quote]
to get occassional spam, but this group gets 10 times more. Why would
it be different than the rest? |
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| Jerry Peters... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:46 am |
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Robert Macy <macy at (no spam) california.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 28, 6:28 am, "Scrim" <nos... at (no spam) nospam.nospam> wrote:
This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
Scrim
How do you gain access?
How do you read it?
I use google for access and read using Opera 9.64 on Win98
As a result, 70-80% of the postings show up.
I've been told to PAY for better access. Yeah, that makes sense. I
should pay for something when the ones gaining, the spammers, should
pay.
So, what to do?
There is another thread here that shows a java script to highlight the
spam so it's very easy to ignore
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Eternal-september is free but it does require registration. They seem
to do a pretty good job of eliminating spam.
Jerry |
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| Rich Webb... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:48 am |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:04:01 -0400, greenpjs at (no spam) neo.rr.com wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:45:00 +0000, Ron <ron at (no spam) lunevalleyaudio.com
wrote:
Meat Plow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim"
nospam at (no spam) nospam.nospam>wrote:
This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
Scrim
I guess Virgin doesn't filter it out for you so you'll have to do it
yourself.
Just get a decent newsreader, I use Thunderbird. Set filters to junk all
messages from the following
at (no spam) yeah.net
at (no spam) live.cn - in fact any .cn
at (no spam) 126.com
at (no spam) 163.com
and all at (no spam) .gmail
(You might miss a few genuine posts by blocking gmail, but it`a small
price to pay. Anyone serious tends to not use gmail/hotmail/yahoo etc.)
You can check the filter logs from time to time and any posters you
inadvertently filtered out, you can add back in individually.
When ever you get spam, add the address to the list.
Ron
I use Agent, but I don't filter anything. All the groups I subscribe
to get occassional spam, but this group gets 10 times more. Why would
it be different than the rest?
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Spammers can check GoogleGroups for groups with high activity in
particular areas. Go to groups.google.com and start with "explore
groups." Google does a nice job of sorting groups by activity (days
since last post), messages per month, and number of users as well as
sorting by topic, language, etc. So, I'd guess that there may be some
set of characteristics of s.e.r that attract them.
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| Jeff Liebermann... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:52 am |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:48:30 -0400, Rich Webb
<bbew.ar at (no spam) mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
[quote]Spammers can check GoogleGroups for groups with high activity in
particular areas. Go to groups.google.com and start with "explore
groups." Google does a nice job of sorting groups by activity (days
since last post), messages per month, and number of users as well as
sorting by topic, language, etc. So, I'd guess that there may be some
set of characteristics of s.e.r that attract them.
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Yep. They also check to see how many people actually click on the
inevitable URL included in the spam message. It's a tiny percentage
of the users, but that's where they allegedly make their money. The
more clicks, the more spam. (Feed the pigeons and what do you get?
More pigeons).
Looks like VirginMedia outsources their usenet news to Giganews. I'm
also using Giganews. After some minor keyword filtering, I get about
10 spam messages in this newsgroup per day. No big deal. In Agent, I
just hit the <del> key and they're gone. If they're repetitive, I
just add it to the built in spam filter.
However, if you REALLY want to get rid of the spam, just hire a hitman
and make a few spammers really disappear. If they're that bad a
problem, it should be worth the money. Take up a collection. Then
start at the top of this list:
<http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/index.lasso>
Note that the majority are in the USA. Start at the top and work your
way down. Eliminate a few of the top spammers and I'm sure the others
will get the clue.
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Jeff Liebermann jeffl at (no spam) cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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| Ron... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:59 am |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:48:30 -0400, Rich Webb
bbew.ar at (no spam) mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
Spammers can check GoogleGroups for groups with high activity in
particular areas. Go to groups.google.com and start with "explore
groups." Google does a nice job of sorting groups by activity (days
since last post), messages per month, and number of users as well as
sorting by topic, language, etc. So, I'd guess that there may be some
set of characteristics of s.e.r that attract them.
Yep. They also check to see how many people actually click on the
inevitable URL included in the spam message. It's a tiny percentage
of the users, but that's where they allegedly make their money. The
more clicks, the more spam. (Feed the pigeons and what do you get?
More pigeons).
Looks like VirginMedia outsources their usenet news to Giganews. I'm
also using Giganews. After some minor keyword filtering, I get about
10 spam messages in this newsgroup per day. No big deal. In Agent, I
just hit the <del> key and they're gone. If they're repetitive, I
just add it to the built in spam filter.
However, if you REALLY want to get rid of the spam, just hire a hitman
and make a few spammers really disappear. If they're that bad a
problem, it should be worth the money. Take up a collection. Then
start at the top of this list:
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/index.lasso
Note that the majority are in the USA. Start at the top and work your
way down. Eliminate a few of the top spammers and I'm sure the others
will get the clue.
[/quote]
I'm not sure, but I don't think we are allowed to do that sort of thing
over here.
Ron
I watched The Sopranos once, I was very disappointed, hardly any singing
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| Jeff Liebermann... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:14 am |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:59:38 +0000, Ron <ron at (no spam) lunevalleyaudio.com>
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[quote]I'm not sure, but I don't think we are allowed to do that sort of thing
over here.
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There's probably a law making just about everything illegal. I can't
make it through a day without breaking at least one or two laws (other
than traffic violations).
<http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news7022.html>
<http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3552/need-a-hitman-illegal-aliens-available-for-hire-thank-ices-myers-torres-for-murder-of-detroit-couple/>
(plenty more). If spam is causing such a problem for ISP's,
individuals, companies, governments, etc, it should be fairly easy to
take up a collection and do what's necessary to "set and example". I'm
sure the judge will understand after his mailbox is filled with spam.
I'm not suggesting any new laws or massive enforcement efforts. Just a
high profile extermination of some of the major perpetrators. The
others will surely get the clue and find something else to trash.
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Jeff Liebermann jeffl at (no spam) cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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| David Nebenzahl... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:14 pm |
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On 10/28/2009 6:06 AM TonyS spake thus:
[quote]Scrim wrote:
This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
I've just been through this experience myself and am still wondering why it is
only this group for me.
[/quote]
It's definitely not just this newsgroup; lots of others with similar
high levels of spam.
[quote]Still, it's a mystery. Some say google is the culprit, probably true.
They bought dejanews and the rest is history.
[/quote]
You've got that right. Google is the main culprit.
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Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?
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