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| Gary Tuvoks... |
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If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have
laughed and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is
really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?
If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura
Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?
If George W.. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock
by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have
approved?
If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and
incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful
and historically significant gift, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos
of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic
and tacky?
If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have
approved?
If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the
non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor
slip?
If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with
people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you
have approved?
If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de
Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May
(Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you
have winced in embarrassment?
If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word "advice" would you have hammered
him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as proof of what a dunce he
is?
If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a
single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?
If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low
over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan
causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually
get what happened on 9-11?
If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in
New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue
with claims of racism and incompetence?
If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly
to
him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America
,
would you have approved.
If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so,
would you have approved?
If George W Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken
more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have
approved?
If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10
years, would you have approved?
So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and
impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 5
months -- so you'll have three years and seven months to come up with an
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| yourmommycalled... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:26 am |
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On Oct 28, 6:26 am, "Gary Tuvoks" <an... at (no spam) none.none> wrote:
[quote]If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have
laughed and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is
really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?
If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura
Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?
If George W.. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock
by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have
approved?
[/quote]
Actually the more important point is Bush's incompetence combined with
GM's general greed resulted in the loss in value of your retirement.
Your retirement was worthless before Obama took over. Obama merely
turned the company over to the only people who could salvage what
hadn't been made worthless yet. If Bush were still in charge your
retirement would be worthless, while GM's CEO and upper management
would have been given bonuses.
[quote]If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and
incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful
and historically significant gift, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos
of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic
and tacky?
If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have
approved?
[/quote]
Since that is the proper way to greet King of Saudi Arabia, it
wouldn't matter whether it was Bush or Obama. When in a foreign
culture you follow the norms of the culture. You think it's bad that a
shoe was thrown at Bush because he was attacked. The insult goes far
deeper than that
[quote]If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the
non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor
slip?
If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with
people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you
have approved?
[/quote]
Are you bothered if Bush and friends used their office to start
unnecessary wars in order to personally profit from those wars. This
is particularly true when the war profiteers are killing or maiming
our own soliders
[quote]If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de
Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May
(Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you
have winced in embarrassment?
If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word "advice" would you have hammered
him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as proof of what a dunce he
is?
Unlike Quayle and Bush he repeatedly
If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a
single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?
If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low
over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan
causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually
get what happened on 9-11?
[/quote]
Obama's administration didn't approve the fly over. A low-level
administrator did it all by himself without notifying his superiors.
Obama had nothing to do with it.
[quote]If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in
New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue
with claims of racism and incompetence?
If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly
to
him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America
,
would you have approved.
[/quote]
Since those 32, what YOU call Czars, are cabinet positions, positions
created by laws passed by both houses of the previous administration
AND the nominees were approved by both houses you are way off reality.
Even FakeNews says that there are no czars
[quote]If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so,
would you have approved?
[/quote]
Since the government paid 43.4 billion dollars for the ownership of GM
what's your problem with the owners firing an incompetent manager?
Should the government let GM into bankruptcy? My personal opinion is
yes, there has to be consequences to your actions, something fake
conservatives don't understand.
[quote]If George W Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken
more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have
approved?
[/quote]
Bush tripled the nationals debt through poor management. I would have
been pleased if had ONLY doubled the national debt.
[quote]If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10
years, would you have approved?
So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and
impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 5
months -- so you'll have three years and seven months to come up with an
answer.
Took just a few minutes to point out the FACTS that you failed to[/quote]
grasp |
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| Chris.B... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:42 am |
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"Burning" Bush brought America to its knees before corrupt oil
dictators.
He had no need to go down on one knee.
He was already there.
At crutch height and willing to swallow anything for a quick buck. |
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| Chris L Peterson... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:27 am |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:26:37 -0400, "Gary Tuvoks" <anone at (no spam) none.none>
wrote:
[quote]If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have
laughed and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is
really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?...
[/quote]
GW _is_ an idiot, in the clinical sense of somebody with a sub-normal
IQ. He did and said lots of stupid things, but they all pale in
comparison with the real long term damage: killing thousands of
Americans and hundreds of thousands of foreigners in needless, useless
wars; increasing our dependence on fossil fuels, abetting and vastly
increasing worldwide terrorism, walking all over the Constitution and
reducing the rights of Americans, allowing unregulated capitalism to
savagely damage the economy.
Your pathetic little list of things (some of which aren't even
accurately represented, some of which aren't bad, and most of which are,
at worst, trivial boo-boos) certainly does demonstrate why Obama is a
vast improvement over the previous tenant!
_________________________________________________
Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com |
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| Mike Collins... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:54 pm |
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On 28 Oct, 11:26, "Gary Tuvoks" <an... at (no spam) none.none> wrote:
[quote]If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
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Ronald Reagan used a teleprompter.
It impressed Margaret Thatcher so much that she ordered her own. |
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| lal_truckee... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:42 pm |
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| what's the "if" for in your subject line? |
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| Uber Buble... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:04 pm |
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| What if 2000 was a success and Al Gore really did get what he deserved...? |
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| David Staup... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:23 pm |
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"Gary Tuvoks" <anone at (no spam) none.none> wrote in message
news:hc99pr$rm0$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org...
[quote]If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have
laughed and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and
is
really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?
If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take
Laura
Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?
If George W.. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM
stock
by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have
approved?
If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and
incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful
and historically significant gift, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing
videos
of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic
and tacky?
If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you
have
approved?
If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the
non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a
minor
slip?
If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with
people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you
have approved?
If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco
de
Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May
(Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you
have winced in embarrassment?
If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word "advice" would you have
hammered
him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as proof of what a dunce
he
is?
If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a
single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?
If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low
over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan
causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually
get what happened on 9-11?
If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than
in
New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue
with claims of racism and incompetence?
If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly
to
him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in
America ,
would you have approved.
If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so,
would you have approved?
If George W Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had
taken
more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have
approved?
If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10
years, would you have approved?
So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant
and
impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in
5
months -- so you'll have three years and seven months to come up with an
answer.
[/quote]
will you stop teasing the little kids you bully!
you're going to make them cry |
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| S. Caro... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:34 pm |
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Uber Buble' wrote:
[quote]What if 2000 was a success and Al Gore really did get what he deserved...?
[/quote]
We'd be paying $6.00 a gallon for gasoline. |
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| Chris L Peterson... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:36 pm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:54:09 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins
<acridiniumester at (no spam) googlemail.com> wrote:
[quote]Ronald Reagan used a teleprompter.
It impressed Margaret Thatcher so much that she ordered her own.
[/quote]
But both of them could read.
_________________________________________________
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Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com |
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| Chris L Peterson... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:38 pm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:34:34 -0500, "S. Caro" <scaro at (no spam) muxnet.com> wrote:
[quote]We'd be paying $6.00 a gallon for gasoline.
[/quote]
As we should be. At least.
_________________________________________________
Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:28 pm |
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On Oct 28, 8:34 pm, "S. Caro" <sc... at (no spam) muxnet.com> wrote:
[quote]Uber Buble' wrote:
What if 2000 was a success and Al Gore really did get what he deserved...?
We'd be paying $6.00 a gallon for gasoline.
[/quote]
And liberals would (and should) be paying that and more for fuel for
their private jets. What about the CO2? Not a problem; just plant
some saplings on someone else's land (whether they want the trees or
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:30 pm |
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On Oct 28, 9:38 pm, Chris L Peterson <c... at (no spam) alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:34:34 -0500, "S. Caro" <sc... at (no spam) muxnet.com> wrote:
We'd be paying $6.00 a gallon for gasoline.
As we should be. At least.
[/quote]
So send the government a check for the amount you think you are
underpaying on each gallon. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:16 am |
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On Oct 28, 10:25 am, yourmommycalled <mommycal... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 28, 6:26 am, "Gary Tuvoks" <an... at (no spam) none.none> wrote:
If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have
laughed and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is
really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?
If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura
Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?
If George W.. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock
by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have
approved?
Actually the more important point is Bush's incompetence combined with
GM's general greed resulted in the loss in value of your retirement.
Your retirement was worthless before Obama took over. Obama merely
turned the company over to the only people who could salvage what
hadn't been made worthless yet. If Bush were still in charge your
retirement would be worthless, while GM's CEO and upper management
would have been given bonuses.
[/quote]
Given the size of the market and the habits of vehicle buyers, a few
million dollars in salary/bonuses doesn't seem all that high.
[quote]If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and
incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful
and historically significant gift, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos
of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic
and tacky?
If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have
approved?
Since that is the proper way to greet King of Saudi Arabia, it
wouldn't matter whether it was Bush or Obama. When in a foreign
culture you follow the norms of the culture. You think it's bad that a
shoe was thrown at Bush because he was attacked. The insult goes far
deeper than that
[/quote]
Only subjects of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia should bow to the King of
Saudi Arabia. Visitiing Heads of State should not.
[quote]If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the
non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor
slip?
If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with
people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you
have approved?
Are you bothered if Bush and friends used their office to start
unnecessary wars in order to personally profit from those wars. This
is particularly true when the war profiteers are killing or maiming
our own soliders
If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de
Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May
(Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you
have winced in embarrassment?
If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word "advice" would you have hammered
him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as proof of what a dunce he
is?
Unlike Quayle and Bush he repeatedly
[/quote]
Was there more?
[quote]If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a
single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?
If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low
over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan
causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually
get what happened on 9-11?
Obama's administration didn't approve the fly over. A low-level
administrator did it all by himself without notifying his superiors.
Obama had nothing to do with it.
[/quote]
Maybe the current POTUS should be more circumspect in his appointment
of administrators.
[quote]If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in
New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue
with claims of racism and incompetence?
If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly
to
him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America
,
would you have approved.
Since those 32, what YOU call Czars, are cabinet positions, positions
created by laws passed by both houses of the previous administration
AND the nominees were approved by both houses you are way off reality.
Even FakeNews says that there are no czars
[/quote]
Give us an example of some "fake" news that the network in question
has aired.
[quote]If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so,
would you have approved?
Since the government paid 43.4 billion dollars for the ownership of GM
what's your problem with the owners firing an incompetent manager?
Should the government let GM into bankruptcy? My personal opinion is
yes, there has to be consequences to your actions, something fake
conservatives don't understand.
[/quote]
Why not just let GM and Chrysler compete with their competition,
rather than bailing them out and then trying to call the shots.
[quote]If George W Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken
more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have
approved?
Bush tripled the nationals debt through poor management. I would have
been pleased if had ONLY doubled the national debt.
[/quote]
Now we are looking at a quadrupling of the debt.
[quote]If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10
years, would you have approved?
So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and
impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 5
months -- so you'll have three years and seven months to come up with an
answer.
Took just a few minutes to point out the FACTS that you failed to
grasp[/quote] |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:10 am |
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<wsnell01 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:18aaad06-e07b-47a7-9f96-6d6430f63b16 at (no spam) n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
[quote]On Oct 28, 9:38 pm, Chris L Peterson <c... at (no spam) alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:34:34 -0500, "S. Caro" <sc... at (no spam) muxnet.com> wrote:
We'd be paying $6.00 a gallon for gasoline.
As we should be. At least.
So send the government a check for the amount you think you are
underpaying on each gallon.
now you know that liberals never practice what they preach why would you[/quote]
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