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Roger Coppock...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:21 pm
Guest
WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html

These hemispherically averaged temperature data come from NASA,
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/SH.Ts.txt
They represent the results of millions of readings
taken at stations covering the lands of the Southern
Hemisphere over the last 130 years. Yes, the data
are corrected for the urban heat island effect.

The Mean September temperature over the last 130 years is 14.023 C.
The Variance is 0.1214.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3484.

Rxy 0.5073 Rxy^2 0.2573
TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128 F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380

Rank of the months of September
Year Temp C Anomaly Z score
2009 14.85 0.827 2.37 <--
1882 14.82 0.797 2.29
2008 14.80 0.777 2.23
1996 14.65 0.627 1.80
2007 14.64 0.617 1.77
2003 14.63 0.607 1.74
2001 14.63 0.607 1.74
2005 14.62 0.597 1.71
1989 14.61 0.587 1.68
1983 14.57 0.547 1.57
2002 14.55 0.527 1.51
1988 14.55 0.527 1.51
2006 14.49 0.467 1.34
1991 14.48 0.457 1.31
MEAN 14.023 0.000 0.00
1917 13.58 -0.443 -1.27
1968 13.56 -0.463 -1.33
1954 13.56 -0.463 -1.33
1964 13.54 -0.483 -1.39
1931 13.53 -0.493 -1.42
1923 13.52 -0.503 -1.44
1906 13.52 -0.503 -1.44
1903 13.51 -0.513 -1.47
1902 13.48 -0.543 -1.56
1892 13.44 -0.583 -1.67
1887 13.38 -0.643 -1.85
1925 13.29 -0.733 -2.10
1935 13.27 -0.753 -2.16
1894 13.26 -0.763 -2.19
1891 13.13 -0.893 -2.56

The most recent 40 continuous months, or 3 years and 4 months,
on this SH.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1557 months of data on this data set:
-- 791 of them are at or above the norm.
-- 766 of them are below the norm.
 
Last Post...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:53 pm
Guest
On Oct 28, 3:21 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
[quote]WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html
[/quote]
•• ROTFLMAO The Met office is a sick joke
After promising a balmy summer they had
a miserable one.

If it comes from NASA those numbers are
meaningless since September is the beginning
of spring in the Southern hemisphere.

–– ––
In real science the burden of proof is always on
the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
iota of valid data for global warming nor have
they provided data that climate change is being
effected by commerce and industry, and not by
natural phenomena.
 
Zorro...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:25 pm
Guest
On Oct 28, 7:21 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
[quote]WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html

These hemispherically averaged temperature data come from NASA,http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/SH.Ts.txt
They represent the results of millions of readings
taken at stations covering the lands of the Southern
Hemisphere over the last 130 years.  Yes, the data
are corrected for the urban heat island effect.

The Mean September temperature over the last 130 years is 14.023 C.
The Variance is 0.1214.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3484.

Rxy 0.5073   Rxy^2 0.2573
TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128         F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
                 yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380

 Rank of the months of September
Year   Temp C   Anomaly   Z score
2009   14.85     0.827     2.37 <--
1882   14.82     0.797     2.29
2008   14.80     0.777     2.23
1996   14.65     0.627     1.80
2007   14.64     0.617     1.77
2003   14.63     0.607     1.74
2001   14.63     0.607     1.74
2005   14.62     0.597     1.71
1989   14.61     0.587     1.68
1983   14.57     0.547     1.57
2002   14.55     0.527     1.51
1988   14.55     0.527     1.51
2006   14.49     0.467     1.34
1991   14.48     0.457     1.31
MEAN   14.023    0.000     0.00
1917   13.58    -0.443    -1.27
1968   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1954   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1964   13.54    -0.483    -1.39
1931   13.53    -0.493    -1.42
1923   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1906   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1903   13.51    -0.513    -1.47
1902   13.48    -0.543    -1.56
1892   13.44    -0.583    -1.67
1887   13.38    -0.643    -1.85
1925   13.29    -0.733    -2.10
1935   13.27    -0.753    -2.16
1894   13.26    -0.763    -2.19
1891   13.13    -0.893    -2.56

The most recent 40 continuous months, or 3 years and 4 months,
on this SH.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1557 months of data on this data set:
  -- 791 of them are at or above the norm.
  -- 766 of them are below the norm.
[/quote]
Remember, this is Roger's data, I didn't make it up.

Rank of the months of September
Year Temp C Anomaly Z score
2009 14.85 0.827 2.37 <--
1882 14.82 0.797 2.29

OH NO, September 2009 in the Southern Hemisphere, is 0.03 C warmer
than September 1882 in the Southern Hemisphere.

In 127 years, we have warmed by 0.03 C.

Quick, we have to do something fast, before the temperature drops
below what it was in 1882. Quickly everybody, generate some more CO2.
 
Roger Coppock...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:38 pm
Guest
On Oct 28, 1:25 am, Zorro <zorro... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[ . . . ]
[quote]Remember, this is Roger's data, I didn't make it up.
[/quote]
Yes, data published by Roger are reliable.
Yes, we frequently see anti-agw posts with made up data.

[quote]
Rank of the months of September
Year   Temp C   Anomaly   Z score
2009   14.85     0.827     2.37 <--
1882   14.82     0.797     2.29

OH NO, September 2009 in the Southern Hemisphere, is 0.03 C warmer
than September 1882 in the Southern Hemisphere.

In 127 years, we have warmed by 0.03 C.
[/quote]
Boy oh boy!
Does Zorro, the zero, need an introductory course in statistics!
To repeat, the trends are:

[quote]TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128 F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380[/quote]
 
Roger Coppock...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:42 pm
Guest
On Oct 28, 12:53 am, Last Post <last_p... at (no spam) primus.ca> wrote:
[ . . . ]
[quote]    If it comes from NASA those numbers are
    meaningless since September is the beginning
    of spring in the Southern hemisphere.
[/quote]
September was beginning of Spring in the Southern Hemisphere for every
one of the last 130 years. NASA data say this September was the
warmest in all those 130 years.
 
Roger Coppock...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:22 am
Guest
On Oct 28, 3:06 am, "I M at (no spam) good guy" <I... at (no spam) good.guy> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:21:33 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock

rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html

          Yes, HA HA, it was 0.03 degrees warmer than 1882,
is that a typo, or a joke, as if a thermometer in 1882 could
be read within one whole degree.
[/quote]
Yet another fossil fool failure with a reading comprehension
problem. Read again, Mr. Guy, the data are the means of
multiple thermometers.



[quote]
          Australia must have been sweating, 3 hundredths
of a degree.

[below nonsense not deleted]

These hemispherically averaged temperature data come from NASA,
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/SH.Ts.txt
They represent the results of millions of readings
taken at stations covering the lands of the Southern
Hemisphere over the last 130 years.  Yes, the data
are corrected for the urban heat island effect.

The Mean September temperature over the last 130 years is 14.023 C.
The Variance is 0.1214.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3484.

Rxy 0.5073   Rxy^2 0.2573
TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128         F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
                yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380

Rank of the months of September
Year   Temp C   Anomaly   Z score
2009   14.85     0.827     2.37 <--
1882   14.82     0.797     2.29
2008   14.80     0.777     2.23
1996   14.65     0.627     1.80
2007   14.64     0.617     1.77
2003   14.63     0.607     1.74
2001   14.63     0.607     1.74
2005   14.62     0.597     1.71
1989   14.61     0.587     1.68
1983   14.57     0.547     1.57
2002   14.55     0.527     1.51
1988   14.55     0.527     1.51
2006   14.49     0.467     1.34
1991   14.48     0.457     1.31
MEAN   14.023    0.000     0.00
1917   13.58    -0.443    -1.27
1968   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1954   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1964   13.54    -0.483    -1.39
1931   13.53    -0.493    -1.42
1923   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1906   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1903   13.51    -0.513    -1.47
1902   13.48    -0.543    -1.56
1892   13.44    -0.583    -1.67
1887   13.38    -0.643    -1.85
1925   13.29    -0.733    -2.10
1935   13.27    -0.753    -2.16
1894   13.26    -0.763    -2.19
1891   13.13    -0.893    -2.56

The most recent 40 continuous months, or 3 years and 4 months,
on this SH.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1557 months of data on this data set:
 -- 791 of them are at or above the norm.
 -- 766 of them are below the norm.[/quote]
 
JohnM...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:12 am
Guest
On Oct 28, 5:22 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 28, 3:06 am, "I M at (no spam) good guy" <I... at (no spam) good.guy> wrote:



On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:21:33 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock

rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html

          Yes, HA HA, it was 0.03 degrees warmer than 1882,
is that a typo, or a joke, as if a thermometer in 1882 could
be read within one whole degree.

Yet another fossil fool failure with a reading comprehension
problem.  Read again, Mr. Guy, the data are the means of
multiple thermometers.



          Australia must have been sweating, 3 hundredths
of a degree.

[below nonsense not deleted]

These hemispherically averaged temperature data come from NASA,
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/SH.Ts.txt
They represent the results of millions of readings
taken at stations covering the lands of the Southern
Hemisphere over the last 130 years.  Yes, the data
are corrected for the urban heat island effect.

The Mean September temperature over the last 130 years is 14.023 C.
The Variance is 0.1214.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3484.

Rxy 0.5073   Rxy^2 0.2573
TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128         F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
                yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380

Rank of the months of September
Year   Temp C   Anomaly   Z score
2009   14.85     0.827     2.37 <--
1882   14.82     0.797     2.29
2008   14.80     0.777     2.23
1996   14.65     0.627     1.80
2007   14.64     0.617     1.77
2003   14.63     0.607     1.74
2001   14.63     0.607     1.74
2005   14.62     0.597     1.71
1989   14.61     0.587     1.68
1983   14.57     0.547     1.57
2002   14.55     0.527     1.51
1988   14.55     0.527     1.51
2006   14.49     0.467     1.34
1991   14.48     0.457     1.31
MEAN   14.023    0.000     0.00
1917   13.58    -0.443    -1.27
1968   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1954   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1964   13.54    -0.483    -1.39
1931   13.53    -0.493    -1.42
1923   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1906   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1903   13.51    -0.513    -1.47
1902   13.48    -0.543    -1.56
1892   13.44    -0.583    -1.67
1887   13.38    -0.643    -1.85
1925   13.29    -0.733    -2.10
1935   13.27    -0.753    -2.16
1894   13.26    -0.763    -2.19
1891   13.13    -0.893    -2.56

The most recent 40 continuous months, or 3 years and 4 months,
on this SH.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1557 months of data on this data set:
 -- 791 of them are at or above the norm.
 -- 766 of them are below the norm.
[/quote]
With the level of statistical comprehension thes ignoramuses are
showing, don't even think of explaining the occurrence, significance
and treatment of outliers in a data set, Roger.
 
I M at (no spam) good guy...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:06 am
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:21:33 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock
<rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:

[quote]WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html
[/quote]

Yes, HA HA, it was 0.03 degrees warmer than 1882,
is that a typo, or a joke, as if a thermometer in 1882 could
be read within one whole degree.

Australia must have been sweating, 3 hundredths
of a degree.


[below nonsense not deleted]

[quote]These hemispherically averaged temperature data come from NASA,
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/SH.Ts.txt
They represent the results of millions of readings
taken at stations covering the lands of the Southern
Hemisphere over the last 130 years. Yes, the data
are corrected for the urban heat island effect.

The Mean September temperature over the last 130 years is 14.023 C.
The Variance is 0.1214.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3484.

Rxy 0.5073 Rxy^2 0.2573
TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128 F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380

Rank of the months of September
Year Temp C Anomaly Z score
2009 14.85 0.827 2.37 <--
1882 14.82 0.797 2.29
2008 14.80 0.777 2.23
1996 14.65 0.627 1.80
2007 14.64 0.617 1.77
2003 14.63 0.607 1.74
2001 14.63 0.607 1.74
2005 14.62 0.597 1.71
1989 14.61 0.587 1.68
1983 14.57 0.547 1.57
2002 14.55 0.527 1.51
1988 14.55 0.527 1.51
2006 14.49 0.467 1.34
1991 14.48 0.457 1.31
MEAN 14.023 0.000 0.00
1917 13.58 -0.443 -1.27
1968 13.56 -0.463 -1.33
1954 13.56 -0.463 -1.33
1964 13.54 -0.483 -1.39
1931 13.53 -0.493 -1.42
1923 13.52 -0.503 -1.44
1906 13.52 -0.503 -1.44
1903 13.51 -0.513 -1.47
1902 13.48 -0.543 -1.56
1892 13.44 -0.583 -1.67
1887 13.38 -0.643 -1.85
1925 13.29 -0.733 -2.10
1935 13.27 -0.753 -2.16
1894 13.26 -0.763 -2.19
1891 13.13 -0.893 -2.56

The most recent 40 continuous months, or 3 years and 4 months,
on this SH.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1557 months of data on this data set:
-- 791 of them are at or above the norm.
-- 766 of them are below the norm.[/quote]
 
Falcon...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:07 am
Guest
Roger Coppock wrote:

[quote]On Oct 28, 12:53 am, Last Post <last_p... at (no spam) primus.ca> wrote:
[ . . . ]
If it comes from NASA those numbers are
meaningless since September is the beginning
of spring in the Southern hemisphere.

September was beginning of Spring in the Southern Hemisphere for every
one of the last 130 years. NASA data say this September was the
warmest in all those 130 years.
[/quote]
Global SST anomalies fell slighty between August and September, the majority
of the decline in the Northern Hemisphere.

September 2009 Southern Hemisphere SST Anomalies:
Monthly Change = -0.019 deg C
http://i34.tinypic.com/5ocuw4.png

The Optimally Interpolated Sea Surface Temperature Data (OISST) are
available through the NOAA National Operational Model Archive & Distribution
System (NOMADS).
http://nomad3.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/pdisp_sst.sh?lite

--
Falcon:
fide, sed cui vide. (L)
 
I M at (no spam) good guy...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:06 am
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:22:32 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock
<rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:

[quote]On Oct 28, 3:06 am, "I M at (no spam) good guy" <I... at (no spam) good.guy> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:21:33 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock

rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html

          Yes, HA HA, it was 0.03 degrees warmer than 1882,
is that a typo, or a joke, as if a thermometer in 1882 could
be read within one whole degree.

Yet another fossil fool failure with a reading comprehension
problem. Read again, Mr. Guy, the data are the means of
multiple thermometers.
[/quote]

Big deal, averaging weather from multiple thermometers
becomes climate in the minds of idiots.

But this has become the most insane joke in all
history, lists of temperatures do not correspond to
your fantasy, or to each other.

See the beginning of your list of warmest Septembers
below for a question about the competence or confusion;

[quote]          Australia must have been sweating, 3 hundredths
of a degree.

[below nonsense not deleted]

These hemispherically averaged temperature data come from NASA,
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/SH.Ts.txt
They represent the results of millions of readings
taken at stations covering the lands of the Southern
Hemisphere over the last 130 years.  Yes, the data
are corrected for the urban heat island effect.

The Mean September temperature over the last 130 years is 14.023 C.
The Variance is 0.1214.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3484.

Rxy 0.5073   Rxy^2 0.2573
TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128         F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
                yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380

Rank of the months of September
Year   Temp C   Anomaly   Z score
2009   14.85     0.827     2.37 <--
1882   14.82     0.797     2.29
2008   14.80     0.777     2.23
1996   14.65     0.627     1.80
2007   14.64     0.617     1.77
[/quote]
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_ocean.90S.00N.df_1901-2000mean.dat


Does 1882 show an anomaly of 0.0807 ?????

And you show 0.797 ????

Who is nuts, you or NASA NCDC?

From;

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/anomalies/index.html

Southern Hemisphere combined land-sea


And September is listed there at 15.0 C


So much for your two and three decimal stats.


Grown men playing with local weather numbers,
and calling it global climate.



[useless garbage included for dummies]

[quote]2003   14.63     0.607     1.74
2001   14.63     0.607     1.74
2005   14.62     0.597     1.71
1989   14.61     0.587     1.68
1983   14.57     0.547     1.57
2002   14.55     0.527     1.51
1988   14.55     0.527     1.51
2006   14.49     0.467     1.34
1991   14.48     0.457     1.31
MEAN   14.023    0.000     0.00
1917   13.58    -0.443    -1.27
1968   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1954   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1964   13.54    -0.483    -1.39
1931   13.53    -0.493    -1.42
1923   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1906   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1903   13.51    -0.513    -1.47
1902   13.48    -0.543    -1.56
1892   13.44    -0.583    -1.67
1887   13.38    -0.643    -1.85
1925   13.29    -0.733    -2.10
1935   13.27    -0.753    -2.16
1894   13.26    -0.763    -2.19
1891   13.13    -0.893    -2.56

The most recent 40 continuous months, or 3 years and 4 months,
on this SH.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1557 months of data on this data set:
 -- 791 of them are at or above the norm.
 -- 766 of them are below the norm.[/quote]
 
I M at (no spam) good guy...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:20 am
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:12:32 -0700 (PDT), JohnM
<john_howard_morgan at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

[quote]On Oct 28, 5:22 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 3:06 am, "I M at (no spam) good guy" <I... at (no spam) good.guy> wrote:



On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:21:33 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock

rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html

          Yes, HA HA, it was 0.03 degrees warmer than 1882,
is that a typo, or a joke, as if a thermometer in 1882 could
be read within one whole degree.

Yet another fossil fool failure with a reading comprehension
problem.  Read again, Mr. Guy, the data are the means of
multiple thermometers.



          Australia must have been sweating, 3 hundredths
of a degree.

[below nonsense not deleted]

These hemispherically averaged temperature data come from NASA,
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/SH.Ts.txt
They represent the results of millions of readings
taken at stations covering the lands of the Southern
Hemisphere over the last 130 years.  Yes, the data
are corrected for the urban heat island effect.

The Mean September temperature over the last 130 years is 14.023 C.
The Variance is 0.1214.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3484.

Rxy 0.5073   Rxy^2 0.2573
TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128         F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
                yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380

Rank of the months of September
Year   Temp C   Anomaly   Z score
2009   14.85     0.827     2.37 <--
1882   14.82     0.797     2.29
2008   14.80     0.777     2.23
1996   14.65     0.627     1.80
2007   14.64     0.617     1.77
2003   14.63     0.607     1.74
2001   14.63     0.607     1.74
2005   14.62     0.597     1.71
1989   14.61     0.587     1.68
1983   14.57     0.547     1.57
2002   14.55     0.527     1.51
1988   14.55     0.527     1.51
2006   14.49     0.467     1.34
1991   14.48     0.457     1.31
MEAN   14.023    0.000     0.00
1917   13.58    -0.443    -1.27
1968   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1954   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1964   13.54    -0.483    -1.39
1931   13.53    -0.493    -1.42
1923   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1906   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1903   13.51    -0.513    -1.47
1902   13.48    -0.543    -1.56
1892   13.44    -0.583    -1.67
1887   13.38    -0.643    -1.85
1925   13.29    -0.733    -2.10
1935   13.27    -0.753    -2.16
1894   13.26    -0.763    -2.19
1891   13.13    -0.893    -2.56

The most recent 40 continuous months, or 3 years and 4 months,
on this SH.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1557 months of data on this data set:
 -- 791 of them are at or above the norm.
 -- 766 of them are below the norm.

With the level of statistical comprehension thes ignoramuses are
showing, don't even think of explaining the occurrence, significance
and treatment of outliers in a data set, Roger.
[/quote]
Sure, check the numbers at NASA and see nothing
that matches.

Using anomalies and corrections and adjustments
and corrected adjustments and adjusted corrections
must be confusing Woger or the adjusters.

And you parrot anything left of far left.
 
tunderbar...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:46 am
Guest
On Oct 28, 2:21 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
[quote]WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
[/quote]
That is only half the globe. So does that mean it's semi-hemi-quasi-
maybe-global warming? Is that consistent with what the IPCC and Al
Gore has promised us?

[quote]It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html

These hemispherically averaged temperature data come from NASA,http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/SH.Ts.txt
They represent the results of millions of readings
taken at stations covering the lands of the Southern
Hemisphere over the last 130 years.  Yes, the data
are corrected for the urban heat island effect.

The Mean September temperature over the last 130 years is 14.023 C.
The Variance is 0.1214.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3484.

Rxy 0.5073   Rxy^2 0.2573
TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128         F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
                 yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380

 Rank of the months of September
Year   Temp C   Anomaly   Z score
2009   14.85     0.827     2.37 <--
1882   14.82     0.797     2.29
2008   14.80     0.777     2.23
1996   14.65     0.627     1.80
2007   14.64     0.617     1.77
2003   14.63     0.607     1.74
2001   14.63     0.607     1.74
2005   14.62     0.597     1.71
1989   14.61     0.587     1.68
1983   14.57     0.547     1.57
2002   14.55     0.527     1.51
1988   14.55     0.527     1.51
2006   14.49     0.467     1.34
1991   14.48     0.457     1.31
MEAN   14.023    0.000     0.00
1917   13.58    -0.443    -1.27
1968   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1954   13.56    -0.463    -1.33
1964   13.54    -0.483    -1.39
1931   13.53    -0.493    -1.42
1923   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1906   13.52    -0.503    -1.44
1903   13.51    -0.513    -1.47
1902   13.48    -0.543    -1.56
1892   13.44    -0.583    -1.67
1887   13.38    -0.643    -1.85
1925   13.29    -0.733    -2.10
1935   13.27    -0.753    -2.16
1894   13.26    -0.763    -2.19
1891   13.13    -0.893    -2.56

The most recent 40 continuous months, or 3 years and 4 months,
on this SH.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1557 months of data on this data set:
  -- 791 of them are at or above the norm.
  -- 766 of them are below the norm.[/quote]
 
Ouroboros Rex...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:00 am
Guest
Falcon wrote:
[quote]Roger Coppock wrote:

On Oct 28, 12:53 am, Last Post <last_p... at (no spam) primus.ca> wrote:
[ . . . ]
If it comes from NASA those numbers are
meaningless since September is the beginning
of spring in the Southern hemisphere.

September was beginning of Spring in the Southern Hemisphere for
every one of the last 130 years. NASA data say this September was
the warmest in all those 130 years.

Global SST anomalies fell slighty between August and September, the
majority of the decline in the Northern Hemisphere.

September 2009 Southern Hemisphere SST Anomalies:
Monthly Change = -0.019 deg C
http://i34.tinypic.com/5ocuw4.png

The Optimally Interpolated Sea Surface Temperature Data (OISST) are
available through the NOAA National Operational Model Archive &
Distribution System (NOMADS).
http://nomad3.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/pdisp_sst.sh?lite
[/quote]
Thanks, that's sea surface temperature.
 
Ouroboros Rex...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:01 am
Guest
Zorro wrote:
[quote]On Oct 28, 7:21 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html

These hemispherically averaged temperature data come from
NASA,http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/SH.Ts.txt They
represent the results of millions of readings
taken at stations covering the lands of the Southern
Hemisphere over the last 130 years. Yes, the data
are corrected for the urban heat island effect.

The Mean September temperature over the last 130 years is 14.023 C.
The Variance is 0.1214.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3484.

Rxy 0.5073 Rxy^2 0.2573
TEMP = 13.71464 + (0.00471 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 128 F = 44.355302
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.999999999 (9 nines)
The month of September in the year 2009,
is linearly projected to be 14.327,
yet it was 14.85. <- 1.5 SIGMA above the trend,
therefore, the warming accelerated.
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7605

Equal weight exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.721718 * e^(.0003341 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the absolute errors is 30.7380

Rank of the months of September
Year Temp C Anomaly Z score
2009 14.85 0.827 2.37 <--
1882 14.82 0.797 2.29
2008 14.80 0.777 2.23
1996 14.65 0.627 1.80
2007 14.64 0.617 1.77
2003 14.63 0.607 1.74
2001 14.63 0.607 1.74
2005 14.62 0.597 1.71
1989 14.61 0.587 1.68
1983 14.57 0.547 1.57
2002 14.55 0.527 1.51
1988 14.55 0.527 1.51
2006 14.49 0.467 1.34
1991 14.48 0.457 1.31
MEAN 14.023 0.000 0.00
1917 13.58 -0.443 -1.27
1968 13.56 -0.463 -1.33
1954 13.56 -0.463 -1.33
1964 13.54 -0.483 -1.39
1931 13.53 -0.493 -1.42
1923 13.52 -0.503 -1.44
1906 13.52 -0.503 -1.44
1903 13.51 -0.513 -1.47
1902 13.48 -0.543 -1.56
1892 13.44 -0.583 -1.67
1887 13.38 -0.643 -1.85
1925 13.29 -0.733 -2.10
1935 13.27 -0.753 -2.16
1894 13.26 -0.763 -2.19
1891 13.13 -0.893 -2.56

The most recent 40 continuous months, or 3 years and 4 months,
on this SH.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1557 months of data on this data set:
-- 791 of them are at or above the norm.
-- 766 of them are below the norm.

Remember, this is Roger's data, I didn't make it up.

Rank of the months of September
Year Temp C Anomaly Z score
2009 14.85 0.827 2.37 <--
1882 14.82 0.797 2.29

OH NO, September 2009 in the Southern Hemisphere, is 0.03 C warmer
than September 1882 in the Southern Hemisphere.

In 127 years, we have warmed by 0.03 C.

Quick, we have to do something fast, before the temperature drops
below what it was in 1882. Quickly everybody, generate some more CO2.
[/quote]
As usual, the denialist just makes some shit up.
 
Ouroboros Rex...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:02 am
Guest
I M at (no spam) good guy wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:21:33 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock
rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:

WARMEST SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SEPTEMBER IN 130 YEARS OF NASA DATA!
It's 2.4 SIGMA above the mean Southern Hemisphere September
and 1.5 SIGMA above the 130-year linear trend.

In the real world,
outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies,
global mean surface temperatures continue to rise.
Please see:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080923c.html


Yes, HA HA, it was 0.03 degrees warmer than 1882,
is that a typo, or a joke, as if a thermometer in 1882 could
be read within one whole degree.

Australia must have been sweating, 3 hundredths
of a degree.
[/quote]
As usual, the denialist just makes some shit up.
 
 
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