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Brian Gaff...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:12 am
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Well it seems this is indeed going to be done. I heard it on the European
press event the other day.

They will leave one after the Shuttle retires, apparently.

Brian

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Jeff Findley...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:02 pm
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"Brian Gaff" <briang1 at (no spam) blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:_PyFm.2026$5w5.1185 at (no spam) text.news.virginmedia.com...
[quote]Well it seems this is indeed going to be done. I heard it on the European
press event the other day.

They will leave one after the Shuttle retires, apparently.
[/quote]
I figured they would. it will be curious to see how many of the systems are
modified for long term usage, or if NASA will get around the problem another
way (like keeping the hatches closed most of the time and using it only for
storage).

Jeff
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that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National
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Brian Gaff...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:58 pm
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I'd never heard it officially, but it was on there if you listen to it.

Surely with it closed off it will have to be heated etc for the health of
what is inside. Seems a bit pointless if its closed off though.

Brian

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"Jeff Findley" <jeff.findley at (no spam) ugs.nojunk.com> wrote in message
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[quote]
"Brian Gaff" <briang1 at (no spam) blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:_PyFm.2026$5w5.1185 at (no spam) text.news.virginmedia.com...
Well it seems this is indeed going to be done. I heard it on the European
press event the other day.

They will leave one after the Shuttle retires, apparently.

I figured they would. it will be curious to see how many of the systems
are modified for long term usage, or if NASA will get around the problem
another way (like keeping the hatches closed most of the time and using it
only for storage).

Jeff
--
"Take heart amid the deepening gloom
that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National
Lampoon
[/quote]
 
Jorge R. Frank...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:53 pm
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Jeff Findley wrote:
[quote]"Brian Gaff" <briang1 at (no spam) blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:_PyFm.2026$5w5.1185 at (no spam) text.news.virginmedia.com...
Well it seems this is indeed going to be done. I heard it on the European
press event the other day.

They will leave one after the Shuttle retires, apparently.

I figured they would. it will be curious to see how many of the systems are
modified for long term usage, or if NASA will get around the problem another
way (like keeping the hatches closed most of the time and using it only for
storage).
[/quote]
The former.
 
Jeff Findley...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:56 am
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"Jorge R. Frank" <jrfrank at (no spam) ibm-pc.borg> wrote in message
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[quote]Jeff Findley wrote:
"Brian Gaff" <briang1 at (no spam) blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:_PyFm.2026$5w5.1185 at (no spam) text.news.virginmedia.com...
Well it seems this is indeed going to be done. I heard it on the
European press event the other day.

They will leave one after the Shuttle retires, apparently.

I figured they would. it will be curious to see how many of the systems
are modified for long term usage, or if NASA will get around the problem
another way (like keeping the hatches closed most of the time and using
it only for storage).

The former.
[/quote]
Some news reports were saying that ESA wanted to do this and pay for it
earlier in the year, but back then NASA was saying "no". Something changed
their collective mind.

Jeff
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"Take heart amid the deepening gloom
that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National
Lampoon
 
Brian Thorn...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:34 pm
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:56:14 -0400, "Jeff Findley"
<jeff.findley at (no spam) ugs.nojunk.com> wrote:


[quote]Some news reports were saying that ESA wanted to do this and pay for it
earlier in the year, but back then NASA was saying "no". Something changed
their collective mind.
[/quote]
That something was probably adding STS-134 (AMS) to the manifest,
officially. Gave them one more flight and the ability to relax the
mass requirements for the last MPLM flight, buying the weight needed
for MPLM mods for long-term use.

Brian
 
snidely...
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:21 am
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On Oct 28, 7:34 pm, Brian Thorn <bthor... at (no spam) suddenlink.net> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:56:14 -0400, "Jeff Findley"

jeff.find... at (no spam) ugs.nojunk.com> wrote:
Some news reports were saying that ESA wanted to do this and pay for it
earlier in the year, but back then NASA was saying "no".  Something changed
their collective mind.

That something was probably adding STS-134 (AMS) to the manifest,
officially. Gave them one more flight and the ability to relax the
mass requirements for the last MPLM flight, buying the weight needed
for MPLM mods for long-term use.
[/quote]
Post landing press conference touched on this -- micrometeorite
shields have been removed to allow Kevlar blankets to be added
underneath them. Some internal systems might be removed to offset the
weight penalty of the blankets. Doors expected to be left open (as
Jorge mentioned).

/dps
 
Brian Gaff...
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:12 am
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Yes, I heard this too. Previously it seems to have been in the plan but only
uttered by crew on the station, so one assumes as often is the case a lot
off it was finance related once the extra flight was agreed.


Brian

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"snidely" <snidely.too at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 7:34 pm, Brian Thorn <bthor... at (no spam) suddenlink.net> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:56:14 -0400, "Jeff Findley"

jeff.find... at (no spam) ugs.nojunk.com> wrote:
Some news reports were saying that ESA wanted to do this and pay for it
earlier in the year, but back then NASA was saying "no". Something
changed
their collective mind.

That something was probably adding STS-134 (AMS) to the manifest,
officially. Gave them one more flight and the ability to relax the
mass requirements for the last MPLM flight, buying the weight needed
for MPLM mods for long-term use.
[/quote]
Post landing press conference touched on this -- micrometeorite
shields have been removed to allow Kevlar blankets to be added
underneath them. Some internal systems might be removed to offset the
weight penalty of the blankets. Doors expected to be left open (as
Jorge mentioned).

/dps
 
 
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