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| John Larkin... |
 Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:02 pm |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:50:52 -0400, "Charles"
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"John Larkin" <jjlarkin at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:23:09 -0400, "Charles"
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:58:46 -0400, "Charles"
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:55:24 -0400, "Charles"
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"John Larkin" <jjlarkin at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com
As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.
Umm ... how about computer science?
Nothing scientific about that.
Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.
I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.
How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there
is
scientific.
Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."
How about physical science?
Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?
http://web.mit.edu/spectroscopy/research/physicalscience.html
Nobody gets a degree called "physical science." They get a gegree in
Physics or Chemistry or some such, from a department of the same name.
Apparently MIT has a "school of physical science", but the actual
disciplines are Physics etc.
The original quote, which wasn't mine, was somewhat facetious, mocking
things like political science and social science and library science,
the point being that real scientists don't use the word "science" in
their departments or degrees, but pseudo-scientists do.
Get grim and bitchy if it pleases you. I thought the original
observation was pretty powerful.
Grim and bitchy?
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Yes, the pickiness and the waiting............. thing. The
concept was cool, so why not go with it?
[quote]
I design electronics, and what I do is called engineering.
Thank God you're not a sanitation engineer ;>)
What do you do, and what is it called?
Not relevant.
[/quote]
Of course it is.
[quote]
Why can't one ask a question here and/or posit a few of their own ideas or
advance a different point of view without getting attacked?
[/quote]
Depends on how you do it.
John |
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| Charles... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:06 pm |
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Big snip
[quote]Get grim and bitchy if it pleases you. I thought the original
observation was pretty powerful.
Grim and bitchy?
Yes, the pickiness and the waiting............. thing. The
concept was cool, so why not go with it?
[/quote]
It's hardly cool and is actually hackneyed.
[quote]I design electronics, and what I do is called engineering.
Thank God you're not a sanitation engineer ;>)
What do you do, and what is it called?
Not relevant.
Of course it is.
[/quote]
OK, if you must know, I am a professor emiritus and once developed and
taught an honor's course titled "Scientific Inquiry."
[quote]Why can't one ask a question here and/or posit a few of their own ideas or
advance a different point of view without getting attacked?
Depends on how you do it.
[/quote]
Can't imagine how to do it when folks have such thin skins.
I honestly never meant to offend you! So, with that in mind, I apologize
for my poor communication skills. |
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| George Herold... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:13 pm |
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On Oct 28, 6:09 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:58:46 -0400, "Charles"
charlesschu... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:55:24 -0400, "Charles"
charlesschu... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.ee... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com
As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.
Umm ... how about computer science?
Nothing scientific about that.
Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.
I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.
How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.
Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."
How about physical science?
Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?
Maybe "Materials Science" is a real science that uses the word
"science." Maybe. But most physicists and chemists would consider it
to be engineering.
John- Hide quoted text -
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[/quote]
There was a little bit of science in the 'Earth Science' I took in 9th
grade. I do remeber weighting things in terms of 'beads' and then
making graphs in the note book.
George H. |
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| John Larkin... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:15 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:06:40 -0400, "Charles"
<charlesschuler at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
[quote]Big snip
Get grim and bitchy if it pleases you. I thought the original
observation was pretty powerful.
Grim and bitchy?
Yes, the pickiness and the waiting............. thing. The
concept was cool, so why not go with it?
It's hardly cool and is actually hackneyed.
I design electronics, and what I do is called engineering.
Thank God you're not a sanitation engineer ;>)
What do you do, and what is it called?
Not relevant.
Of course it is.
OK, if you must know, I am a professor emiritus and once developed and
taught an honor's course titled "Scientific Inquiry."
[/quote]
PE of what?
John |
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| John Larkin... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:42 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:13:56 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<ggherold at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 28, 6:09 pm, John Larkin
jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:58:46 -0400, "Charles"
charlesschu... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:55:24 -0400, "Charles"
charlesschu... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.ee... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com
As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.
Umm ... how about computer science?
Nothing scientific about that.
Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.
I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.
How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.
Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."
How about physical science?
Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?
Maybe "Materials Science" is a real science that uses the word
"science." Maybe. But most physicists and chemists would consider it
to be engineering.
John- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
There was a little bit of science in the 'Earth Science' I took in 9th
grade. I do remeber weighting things in terms of 'beads' and then
making graphs in the note book.
George H.
[/quote]
Most people who actually do "earth science" call themselves
geologists.
John |
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| Jamie... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:01 pm |
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John Larkin wrote:
[quote]On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:13:56 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
ggherold at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:09 pm, John Larkin
jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:58:46 -0400, "Charles"
charlesschu... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:i42fe51h876nor1lcaqnvg5g7ld1f3ncgp at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:55:24 -0400, "Charles"
charlesschu... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.ee... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com
As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.
Umm ... how about computer science?
Nothing scientific about that.
Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.
I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.
How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.
Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."
How about physical science?
Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?
Maybe "Materials Science" is a real science that uses the word
"science." Maybe. But most physicists and chemists would consider it
to be engineering.
John- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
There was a little bit of science in the 'Earth Science' I took in 9th
grade. I do remeber weighting things in terms of 'beads' and then
making graphs in the note book.
George H.
Most people who actually do "earth science" call themselves
geologists.
John
Not gynecologists?[/quote]
Sorry, I know, bad! I'm just trying to blend in with the rest of them
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| John Larkin... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:53 pm |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:01:59 -0500, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_ at (no spam) charter.net> wrote:
[quote]John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:13:56 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
ggherold at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:09 pm, John Larkin
jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:58:46 -0400, "Charles"
charlesschu... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:i42fe51h876nor1lcaqnvg5g7ld1f3ncgp at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:55:24 -0400, "Charles"
charlesschu... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message
news:670ee5541a7fups3oncq7gbh529omuf0vu at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.ee... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com
As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.
Umm ... how about computer science?
Nothing scientific about that.
Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.
I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.
How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.
Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."
How about physical science?
Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?
Maybe "Materials Science" is a real science that uses the word
"science." Maybe. But most physicists and chemists would consider it
to be engineering.
John- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
There was a little bit of science in the 'Earth Science' I took in 9th
grade. I do remeber weighting things in terms of 'beads' and then
making graphs in the note book.
George H.
Most people who actually do "earth science" call themselves
geologists.
John
Not gynecologists?
Sorry, I know, bad! I'm just trying to blend in with the rest of them
here.
[/quote]
Bad.
John |
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| Rich Grise... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:53 pm |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:53:57 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
[quote]On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:01:59 -0500, Jamie
John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:13:56 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
There was a little bit of science in the 'Earth Science' I took in 9th
grade. I do remeber weighting things in terms of 'beads' and then
making graphs in the note book.
Most people who actually do "earth science" call themselves geologists.
Not gynecologists?
Sorry, I know, bad! I'm just trying to blend in with the rest of them
here.
Bad.
Ergo, should "blend in" just fine. >:-[/quote]
Cheers!
Rich |
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