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| HardySpicer... |
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is
a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts
enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is
better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source
of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon
dioxide as a global warming gas.
Lord Stern, the author of the influential 2006 Stern Review on the
cost of tackling global warming, said that a successful deal at the
Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December would lead to
soaring costs for meat and other foods that generate large quantities
of greenhouse gases.
He predicted that people’s attitudes would evolve until meat eating
became unacceptable. “I think it’s important that people think about
what they are doing and that includes what they are eating,” he said.
“I am 61 now and attitudes towards drinking and driving have changed
radically since I was a student. People change their notion of what is
responsible. They will increasingly ask about the carbon content of
their food.”
Lord Stern, a former chief economist of the World Bank and now I. G.
Patel Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics, warned
that British taxpayers would need to contribute about £3 billion a
year by 2015 to help poor countries to cope with the inevitable impact
of climate change.
He also issued a clear message to President Obama that he must attend
the meeting in Copenhagen in person in order for an effective deal to
be reached. US leadership, he said, was “desperately needed” to secure
a deal.
He said that he was deeply concerned that popular opinion had so far
failed to grasp the scale of the changes needed to address climate
change, or of the importance of the UN meeting in Copenhagen from
December 7 to December 18. “I am not sure that people fully understand
what we are talking about or the kind of changes that will be
necessary,” he added.
Up to 20,000 delegates from 192 countries are due to attend the UN
conference in the Danish capital. Its aim is to forge a deal to reduce
greenhouse gas emissions sufficiently to prevent an increase in global
temperatures of more than 2 degrees centigrade. Any increase above
this level is expected to trigger runaway climate change, threatening
the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
Lord Stern said that Copenhagen presented a unique opportunity for the
world to break free from its catastrophic current trajectory. He said
that the world needed to agree to halve global greenhouse gas
emissions by 2030 to 25 gigatonnes a year from the current level of 50
gigatonnes.
UN figures suggest that meat production is responsible for about 18
per cent of global carbon emissions, including the destruction of
forest land for cattle ranching and the production of animal feeds
such as soy.
Lord Stern, who said that he was not a strict vegetarian himself, was
speaking on the eve of an all-parliamentary debate on climate change.
His remarks provoked anger from the meat industry.
Jonathan Scurlock, of the National Farmers Union, said: “Going
vegetarian is not a worldwide solution. It’s not a view shared by the
NFU. Farmers in this country are interested in evidence-based
policymaking. We don’t have a methane-free cow or pig available to
us.”
On average, a British person eats 50g of protein derived from meat
each day — the equivalent of a chicken breast or a lamb chop. This is
a relatively low level for a wealthy country but between 25 per cent
and 50 per cent higher than the amount recommended by the World Health
Organisation.
Su Taylor, a spokeswoman for the Vegetarian Society, welcomed Lord
Stern’s remarks. “What we choose to eat is one of the biggest factors
in our personal impact on the environment,” she said. “Meat uses up a
lot of resources and a vegetarian diet consumes a lot less land and
water. One of the best things you can do about climate change is
reduce the amount of meat in your diet.”
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by the
middle of the century.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:18 pm |
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On Oct 27, 2:17 pm, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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(of course what the writer doesn't account for is that if the whole
world went vegetarian the sewers couldn't cope and we would fart more
- hence more methane and global warming.
what do do eh?) |
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| Dänk 1010011010... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:37 pm |
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On Oct 27, 2:17 am, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is
a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts
enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is
better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source
of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon
dioxide as a global warming gas.
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The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by the
middle of the century.
[/quote]
A more practical solution would be to start practicing cannibalism,
which would allow people to continue enjoying their meat diets while
reducing greenhouse gas emissions from both livestock and humans.
Church of Euthanasia:
http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org
"The Four Pillars: Suicide, Abortion, Cannibalism, Sodomy"
"Save the Planet, Kill Yourself!" |
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| Halmyre... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:05 am |
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On 27 Oct, 09:37, Dänk 1010011010 <dank... at (no spam) rocketmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 27, 2:17 am, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is
a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts
enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is
better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source
of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon
dioxide as a global warming gas.
...
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by the
middle of the century.
A more practical solution would be to start practicing cannibalism,
[/quote]
No thanks, Henderarse might be on the menu.
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| Bryn Fraser... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:01 am |
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On Oct 27, 1:17 am, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is
a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts
enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is
better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source
of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon
dioxide as a global warming gas.
Lord Stern, the author of the influential 2006 Stern Review on the
cost of tackling global warming, said that a successful deal at the
Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December would lead to
soaring costs for meat and other foods that generate large quantities
of greenhouse gases.
He predicted that people’s attitudes would evolve until meat eating
became unacceptable. “I think it’s important that people think about
what they are doing and that includes what they are eating,” he said.
“I am 61 now and attitudes towards drinking and driving have changed
radically since I was a student. People change their notion of what is
responsible. They will increasingly ask about the carbon content of
their food.”
Lord Stern, a former chief economist of the World Bank and now I. G.
Patel Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics, warned
that British taxpayers would need to contribute about £3 billion a
year by 2015 to help poor countries to cope with the inevitable impact
of climate change.
He also issued a clear message to President Obama that he must attend
the meeting in Copenhagen in person in order for an effective deal to
be reached. US leadership, he said, was “desperately needed” to secure
a deal.
He said that he was deeply concerned that popular opinion had so far
failed to grasp the scale of the changes needed to address climate
change, or of the importance of the UN meeting in Copenhagen from
December 7 to December 18. “I am not sure that people fully understand
what we are talking about or the kind of changes that will be
necessary,” he added.
Up to 20,000 delegates from 192 countries are due to attend the UN
conference in the Danish capital. Its aim is to forge a deal to reduce
greenhouse gas emissions sufficiently to prevent an increase in global
temperatures of more than 2 degrees centigrade. Any increase above
this level is expected to trigger runaway climate change, threatening
the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
Lord Stern said that Copenhagen presented a unique opportunity for the
world to break free from its catastrophic current trajectory. He said
that the world needed to agree to halve global greenhouse gas
emissions by 2030 to 25 gigatonnes a year from the current level of 50
gigatonnes.
UN figures suggest that meat production is responsible for about 18
per cent of global carbon emissions, including the destruction of
forest land for cattle ranching and the production of animal feeds
such as soy.
Lord Stern, who said that he was not a strict vegetarian himself, was
speaking on the eve of an all-parliamentary debate on climate change.
His remarks provoked anger from the meat industry.
Jonathan Scurlock, of the National Farmers Union, said: “Going
vegetarian is not a worldwide solution. It’s not a view shared by the
NFU. Farmers in this country are interested in evidence-based
policymaking. We don’t have a methane-free cow or pig available to
us.”
On average, a British person eats 50g of protein derived from meat
each day — the equivalent of a chicken breast or a lamb chop. This is
a relatively low level for a wealthy country but between 25 per cent
and 50 per cent higher than the amount recommended by the World Health
Organisation.
Su Taylor, a spokeswoman for the Vegetarian Society, welcomed Lord
Stern’s remarks. “What we choose to eat is one of the biggest factors
in our personal impact on the environment,” she said. “Meat uses up a
lot of resources and a vegetarian diet consumes a lot less land and
water. One of the best things you can do about climate change is
reduce the amount of meat in your diet.”
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by the
middle of the century.
Hardy
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Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn |
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| Bryn Fraser... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:04 am |
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On Oct 27, 9:37 am, Dänk 1010011010 <dank... at (no spam) rocketmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 27, 2:17 am, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is
a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts
enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is
better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source
of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon
dioxide as a global warming gas.
...
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by the
middle of the century.
A more practical solution would be to start practicing cannibalism,
which would allow people to continue enjoying their meat diets while
reducing greenhouse gas emissions from both livestock and humans.
Church of Euthanasia:http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org
"The Four Pillars: Suicide, Abortion, Cannibalism, Sodomy"
"Save the Planet, Kill Yourself!"- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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Sodomy
Very risky
all that methane about.
Bryn |
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| Al Nakba... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:15 am |
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On Oct 26, 6:17 pm, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is
a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts
enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is
better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source
of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon
dioxide as a global warming gas.
Lord Stern, the author of the influential 2006 Stern Review on the
cost of tackling global warming, said that a successful deal at the
Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December would lead to
soaring costs for meat and other foods that generate large quantities
of greenhouse gases.
He predicted that people’s attitudes would evolve until meat eating
became unacceptable. “I think it’s important that people think about
what they are doing and that includes what they are eating,” he said.
“I am 61 now and attitudes towards drinking and driving have changed
radically since I was a student. People change their notion of what is
responsible. They will increasingly ask about the carbon content of
their food.”
Lord Stern, a former chief economist of the World Bank and now I. G.
Patel Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics, warned
that British taxpayers would need to contribute about £3 billion a
year by 2015 to help poor countries to cope with the inevitable impact
of climate change.
He also issued a clear message to President Obama that he must attend
the meeting in Copenhagen in person in order for an effective deal to
be reached. US leadership, he said, was “desperately needed” to secure
a deal.
He said that he was deeply concerned that popular opinion had so far
failed to grasp the scale of the changes needed to address climate
change, or of the importance of the UN meeting in Copenhagen from
December 7 to December 18. “I am not sure that people fully understand
what we are talking about or the kind of changes that will be
necessary,” he added.
Up to 20,000 delegates from 192 countries are due to attend the UN
conference in the Danish capital. Its aim is to forge a deal to reduce
greenhouse gas emissions sufficiently to prevent an increase in global
temperatures of more than 2 degrees centigrade. Any increase above
this level is expected to trigger runaway climate change, threatening
the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
Lord Stern said that Copenhagen presented a unique opportunity for the
world to break free from its catastrophic current trajectory. He said
that the world needed to agree to halve global greenhouse gas
emissions by 2030 to 25 gigatonnes a year from the current level of 50
gigatonnes.
UN figures suggest that meat production is responsible for about 18
per cent of global carbon emissions, including the destruction of
forest land for cattle ranching and the production of animal feeds
such as soy.
Lord Stern, who said that he was not a strict vegetarian himself, was
speaking on the eve of an all-parliamentary debate on climate change.
His remarks provoked anger from the meat industry.
Jonathan Scurlock, of the National Farmers Union, said: “Going
vegetarian is not a worldwide solution. It’s not a view shared by the
NFU. Farmers in this country are interested in evidence-based
policymaking. We don’t have a methane-free cow or pig available to
us.”
On average, a British person eats 50g of protein derived from meat
each day — the equivalent of a chicken breast or a lamb chop. This is
a relatively low level for a wealthy country but between 25 per cent
and 50 per cent higher than the amount recommended by the World Health
Organisation.
Su Taylor, a spokeswoman for the Vegetarian Society, welcomed Lord
Stern’s remarks. “What we choose to eat is one of the biggest factors
in our personal impact on the environment,” she said. “Meat uses up a
lot of resources and a vegetarian diet consumes a lot less land and
water. One of the best things you can do about climate change is
reduce the amount of meat in your diet.”
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by the
middle of the century.
Hardy
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greenies/marxists will still be getting a lot of meat via the backdoor! |
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| Bryn Fraser... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:31 am |
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On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net>
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[quote]Bryn Fraser wrote:
Hardy
Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
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"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
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Ever had one fart at you?
Bryn |
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| Harry Merrick... |
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Halmyre wrote:
[quote]On 27 Oct, 09:37, Dänk 1010011010 <dank... at (no spam) rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 27, 2:17 am, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat
is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases.
It puts enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian
diet is better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant
source of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than
carbon dioxide as a global warming gas.
...
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by
the middle of the century.
A more practical solution would be to start practicing cannibalism,
No thanks, Henderarse might be on the menu.
[/quote]
Indeed.
However, since Homo Sapiens is a species of Herbivores, it is no doubt that
we would deprive ourselves of many valuable sources of minerals and
chemicals should we eat no meat at all. You only have to look at the sallow
faces of convinced vegetarians to recognise that they are missing something
vital.
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Harry Merrick. |
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| Cory Bhreckan... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:22 pm |
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Bryn Fraser wrote:
[quote]Hardy
Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
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Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
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"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall |
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| Cory Bhreckan... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:43 pm |
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Bryn Fraser wrote:
[quote]On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net
wrote:
Bryn Fraser wrote:
Hardy
Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
Ever had one fart at you?
Bryn
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Yep, I worked on a dairy farm for a while whilst I was living in
Vermont. Most of the methane generated by a ruminant come out of the mouth.
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"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall |
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| La N... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:53 pm |
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Cory Bhreckan wrote:
[quote]Bryn Fraser wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net
wrote:
Bryn Fraser wrote:
Hardy
Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
Ever had one fart at you?
Bryn
Yep, I worked on a dairy farm for a while whilst I was living in
Vermont. Most of the methane generated by a ruminant come out of the
mouth.
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That's right. My farming kin say it's the cow belches.
- nilita |
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| Cory Bhreckan... |
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La N wrote:
[quote]Cory Bhreckan wrote:
Bryn Fraser wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net
wrote:
Bryn Fraser wrote:
Hardy
Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
Ever had one fart at you?
Bryn
Yep, I worked on a dairy farm for a while whilst I was living in
Vermont. Most of the methane generated by a ruminant come out of the
mouth.
That's right. My farming kin say it's the cow belches.
- nilita
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Methane is generated in the rumen, where the grass gets partially broken
down, and comes back up while the animal chews its cud.
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The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall |
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"Harry Merrick" <homestud at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Halmyre wrote:
On 27 Oct, 09:37, Dänk 1010011010 <dank... at (no spam) rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 27, 2:17 am, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat
is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases.
It puts enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian
diet is better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant
source of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than
carbon dioxide as a global warming gas.
...
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by
the middle of the century.
A more practical solution would be to start practicing cannibalism,
No thanks, Henderarse might be on the menu.
Indeed.
However, since Homo Sapiens is a species of Herbivores,
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Herbivores?
Don't you mean Omnivores?
it is no doubt that
[quote]we would deprive ourselves of many valuable sources of minerals and
chemicals should we eat no meat at all. You only have to look at the
sallow faces of convinced vegetarians to recognise that they are missing
something vital.
--
Harry Merrick.
Besides- Wir aa Jock Tamson's Bairns.[/quote]
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