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honest...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:07 am
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I have a CE amplifier.

With real instrumentation, real circuit I got a high cut-off frequency
of about 600 kHz while if I repeat it in PSpice I got about 200 MHz (!)

Same circuit with LT Spice I got about 3,5MHz

The device is 2N3904

I saw in an example provided by LTspice that there is a
100pF capacitor between C and B...

Pheraps Miller effect isn't calculated by Spice?

Thanks in advance.
 
Jim Thompson...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:50 am
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On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:07:57 +0100, honest <none at (no spam) host.com> wrote:

[quote]I have a CE amplifier.

With real instrumentation, real circuit I got a high cut-off frequency
of about 600 kHz while if I repeat it in PSpice I got about 200 MHz (!)

Same circuit with LT Spice I got about 3,5MHz

The device is 2N3904

I saw in an example provided by LTspice that there is a
100pF capacitor between C and B...

Pheraps Miller effect isn't calculated by Spice?

Thanks in advance.
[/quote]
Without a schematic we know nothing. And... What is your definition
of cut-off frequency?

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Jamie...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:09 am
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honest wrote:
[quote]I have a CE amplifier.

With real instrumentation, real circuit I got a high cut-off frequency
of about 600 kHz while if I repeat it in PSpice I got about 200 MHz (!)

Same circuit with LT Spice I got about 3,5MHz

The device is 2N3904

I saw in an example provided by LTspice that there is a
100pF capacitor between C and B...

Pheraps Miller effect isn't calculated by Spice?

Thanks in advance.
Maybe.[/quote]
How this for a start.

1. Wrong board lay out. (Un calculated Capacitance &/ induction)

1A. Un expected LC taking place.

2. Wrong type of resistors.

3. Not putting a local bypass caps in.

4. Local bypass caps if #3 has been done, aren't using a non inductive
type.

5. Design has to high of R values, but Spice should of picked up on that.

6. Your transistor is a fake knock off or just something that was
around and stamped as so.


7. The simulator is just wrong! (no surprise there)
 
honest...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:12 am
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Jamie ha scritto:

[quote]1. Wrong board lay out. (Un calculated Capacitance &/ induction)
[/quote]
This one. Found the issue.
Thanks again.
 
 
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