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| Carol... |
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I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. Anyone have any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol (sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, Carol V. |
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| Rae... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:17 pm |
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On Oct 24, 8:35�pm, bob <nottooslo... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]In article <4ae38af4$0$31272$607ed... at (no spam) cv.net>, caro... at (no spam) optimum.net
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I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. �Anyone have any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol (sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice �yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. �Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, �Carol V.
Carol,
I haven't tried any of those.
I'm on a statin and Gemfibrozil and have been for years. I think my
untreated cholesterol level was over 350. My last cholesterol reading,
when I donated blood last month, was around 130 and my LDL and HDL are
both in the normal range.
Bob/Texas
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Are you normal weight, Carol, or need to lose some? Obviously, that
would help if that's the case, as well as exercise. Recent article in
Reader's DIgest said things like berries are good. Heck, one study
even showed (from Thailand) that people who ate two eggs a day for
like 12 weeks had huge improvement. Made me a bit more willing to eat
eggs for breakfast, but not sure if there is any back up for that. |
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| bob... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:35 pm |
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In article <4ae38af4$0$31272$607ed4bc at (no spam) cv.net>, carolvp at (no spam) optimum.net
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I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. Anyone have any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol (sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, Carol V.
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Carol,
I haven't tried any of those.
I'm on a statin and Gemfibrozil and have been for years. I think my
untreated cholesterol level was over 350. My last cholesterol reading,
when I donated blood last month, was around 130 and my LDL and HDL are
both in the normal range.
Bob/Texas |
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| Barbara Carlson... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:37 pm |
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I tried the red rice on the suggestion of my cardiologist and had terrible
side effects, which you aren't supposed to get from that. I had muscle
weakness and actually fell twice on the third day. Stopped those in a
hurry. I am on simvastatin now, no side effects. I have good cholesterol
and unbelievably good ratios, but both my cardiologist and neurologist said
if you have a TIA (which I did) you go on a statin for life regardless of
the numbers. My cardiologist was surprised that the Red Rice Yeast gave me
side effects, but they were dramatic.
Barb C.
"Carol" <carolvp at (no spam) optimum.net> wrote in message
news:4ae38af4$0$31272$607ed4bc at (no spam) cv.net...
[quote]I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. Anyone have any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol (sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, Carol V.
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| Barbara Carlson... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:46 pm |
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Most advice now is that eggs are okay to eat. Prevention Magazine said for
years that there was no reason to give up eggs--while they may have
saturated fat, they are also one of the highest natural sources of lecithin,
which is a cholesterol-lowering natural food, and more than offsets the fat
in the eggs.
Of course taking fish oil is a good thing according to most sources to
improve the good/bad ratio HDL/LDL, which my primary doctor says is even
more important than the total cholesterol numbers. I simply will not use
any product with trans fats which are supposed to be worse for you than
saturated fats.
Then, too, you never know what the recommendations will be a few months for
now!
Barb C.
Also, come to think of it, it is my husband who is on Simvastatin. I am on
the same gemfibrazole Bob is on.
"Rae" <RaeMorrill at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:7882b4a5-c1f3-4948-b6da-dc2c1c094ba7 at (no spam) m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 24, 8:35?pm, bob <nottooslo... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]In article <4ae38af4$0$31272$607ed... at (no spam) cv.net>, caro... at (no spam) optimum.net
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I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. ?Anyone have
any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol
(sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice ?yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. ?Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, ?Carol V.
Carol,
I haven't tried any of those.
I'm on a statin and Gemfibrozil and have been for years. I think my
untreated cholesterol level was over 350. My last cholesterol reading,
when I donated blood last month, was around 130 and my LDL and HDL are
both in the normal range.
Bob/Texas
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Are you normal weight, Carol, or need to lose some? Obviously, that
would help if that's the case, as well as exercise. Recent article in
Reader's DIgest said things like berries are good. Heck, one study
even showed (from Thailand) that people who ate two eggs a day for
like 12 weeks had huge improvement. Made me a bit more willing to eat
eggs for breakfast, but not sure if there is any back up for that. |
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| Sue -- Firefighter mom, Still UW Dawg fan!... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:14 pm |
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On Oct 24, 5:17 pm, "Carol" <caro... at (no spam) optimum.net> wrote:
[quote]I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. Anyone have any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol (sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, Carol V.
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Fish oil did the trick for me. Red yeast rice sometimes gives the same
side effects as statins.
I am terribly obese, but have perfect LDL, HDL, triglycerides and
total cholesterol. All I do is take fish oil. (I don't eat a lot of
high fatty foods either, though and no longer a ton of red meat, but
we do eat some).
Sue M |
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| Judity... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:08 am |
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Carol, I just checked my lab tests back to when I was first diagnosed
with high cholesterol. In May of 2003, my cholesterol was at a high
of 354 with triglycerides a whopping 461. I won't say it was easy,
but my lab results from last month showed cholesterol at 141 and
cholesterol a much better but still too high 277. This is after years
on generic statins. I also recently began taking SLO-Niacin at my
doctor's recommendation to get that 277 lower.
My question for you is, which of all your cholesterol indicators is
out of wrack? As you can see, my battle was with the triglycerides,
but don't forget you also have HDL and LDL to monitor. Different foods
might help with each of those.
Good luck with this, and let us know how you're doing with the natural
items.
Judity
There are only a few more weeks before Christmas!
Books would make fun and inexpensive gifts
1,000 Words or Less
http://tinyurl.com/3r6evw
Home of the Red Fox
http://tinyurl.com/vnot9 |
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| Carol... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:43 am |
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Thanks for the info. I did lose 20 lbs, need to lose about 30 more, so that
will help. Years of just sitting typing and eating crackers did not help,
i'm sure. I'll try the fish-oil, our corneal eye doc recommends it, too.
I;ll watch out for the Red rice, didn't know any side effects. Plus, I'm on
Lisinopril for HBP, for the present. My BP is good at home, but once I get
into the docs office, it shoots,up and I'm not even nervous-i really like
her. What could it be?
Thanks again, for any help. Carol V.
BTW-it is gorgeous here, in Milford, CT-Fall FOliage is gorgeous. We took a
short trip to Vermone two weekends ago, and it was also gorgeous!!
"Carol" <carolvp at (no spam) optimum.net> wrote in message
news:4ae38af4$0$31272$607ed4bc at (no spam) cv.net...
[quote]I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. Anyone have any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol (sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, Carol V.
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| Sue -- Firefighter mom, Still UW Dawg fan!... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:51 am |
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On Oct 25, 8:43 am, "Carol" <caro... at (no spam) optimum.net> wrote:
[quote]Thanks for the info. I did lose 20 lbs, need to lose about 30 more, so that
will help. Years of just sitting typing and eating crackers did not help,
i'm sure. I'll try the fish-oil, our corneal eye doc recommends it, too.
I;ll watch out for the Red rice, didn't know any side effects. Plus, I'm on
Lisinopril for HBP, for the present. My BP is good at home, but once I get
into the docs office, it shoots,up and I'm not even nervous-i really like
her. What could it be?
Thanks again, for any help. Carol V.
BTW-it is gorgeous here, in Milford, CT-Fall FOliage is gorgeous. We took a
short trip to Vermone two weekends ago, and it was also gorgeous!!
"Carol" <caro... at (no spam) optimum.net> wrote in message
news:4ae38af4$0$31272$607ed4bc at (no spam) cv.net...
I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. Anyone have any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol (sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, Carol V.
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BP rising could just be the trip in. My DH always has raised BP in
office. He is stressed getting to office on time and waiting plus the
traffic gets to him. Could be that.
The reason I know about red yeast rice is the doc I used to type for
warned patients that sometimes the side effects would be similar to
statins with muscle aches, etc. I was surprised too as I was going to
have DH take it since he had trouble with statins. Now just sticking
with fish oil which is working wonders for me, not so with him.
Sue M |
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| Sue -- Firefighter mom, Still UW Dawg fan!... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:53 am |
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On Oct 25, 8:08 am, Judity <Judit... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
[quote]Carol, I just checked my lab tests back to when I was first diagnosed
with high cholesterol. In May of 2003, my cholesterol was at a high
of 354 with triglycerides a whopping 461. I won't say it was easy,
but my lab results from last month showed cholesterol at 141 and
cholesterol a much better but still too high 277. This is after years
on generic statins. I also recently began taking SLO-Niacin at my
doctor's recommendation to get that 277 lower.
My question for you is, which of all your cholesterol indicators is
out of wrack? As you can see, my battle was with the triglycerides,
but don't forget you also have HDL and LDL to monitor. Different foods
might help with each of those.
Good luck with this, and let us know how you're doing with the natural
items.
Judity
There are only a few more weeks before Christmas!
Books would make fun and inexpensive gifts
1,000 Words or Lesshttp://tinyurl.com/3r6evw
Home of the Red Foxhttp://tinyurl.com/vnot9
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You are luck to be able to take a niacin. I can't it really causes
racing heart and facial flushing with me. I cannot tolerate it at all.
Sue M |
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| Judity... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:02 pm |
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((You are luck to be able to take a niacin. I can't it really causes
racing heart and facial flushing with me. I cannot tolerate it at
all. ))
Sue, I fought my doctor's recommendation to take niacin for a couple
years since reading about the side effects you mentioned. Then, a few
months ago, I got a phone call from one of the Kaiser clinic's
pharmacists who said he was worried about my high triglycerides
level. We had a long discussion about something called SLO-Niacin,
which releases the niacin very slowly and isn't as harsh ton the
body. I agreed to research it, and a couple days later I got
literature from him about this version of niacin.
Since drug stores don't seem to sell it, I bought a small bottle of
the pills at the recommended starting lower dose of 250 mg through
Amazon.com. Since I took an aspirin beforehand as the literature
recommentds, the flushing was minor, the flushing lasted only a couple
minutes and was not at all uncomfortable. I'm now up to the highest
level of five 500 mg daily with no adverse side effects...and no more
flushing.
If you want to discuss SLO-Niacin with your own doctor, here's the
link to the lower dose on Amazon.com with quite a bit of information
there you might find interesting. http://tinyurl.com/ygogsfx
Judity |
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| Carol... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:53 pm |
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"Judity" <Judity01 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:2c23d6d1-ed1d-43b4-9004-bff4a7f90337 at (no spam) m13g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
[quote]Carol, I just checked my lab tests back to when I was first diagnosed
with high cholesterol. In May of 2003, my cholesterol was at a high
of 354 with triglycerides a whopping 461. I won't say it was easy,
but my lab results from last month showed cholesterol at 141 and
cholesterol a much better but still too high 277. This is after years
on generic statins. I also recently began taking SLO-Niacin at my
doctor's recommendation to get that 277 lower.
My question for you is, which of all your cholesterol indicators is
out of wrack? As you can see, my battle was with the triglycerides,
but don't forget you also have HDL and LDL to monitor. Different foods
might help with each of those.
Good luck with this, and let us know how you're doing with the natural
items.
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Thanks,Judity: i known the doc said my "bad" cholesterol okay okay. Have to
find the numbers, I know I have them here somewhere. Thanks for all the
information, I'll keep in touch.
Carol
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Judity
There are only a few more weeks before Christmas!
Books would make fun and inexpensive gifts
1,000 Words or Less
http://tinyurl.com/3r6evw
Home of the Red Fox
http://tinyurl.com/vnot9[/quote] |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:41 pm |
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In article <4a0226dd-98ed-44e2-9482-44fa59fa7f41
at (no spam) b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, medlawtrans at (no spam) comcast.net says...
[quote]
On Oct 25, 8:08 am, Judity <Judit... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Carol, I just checked my lab tests back to when I was first diagnosed
with high cholesterol. In May of 2003, my cholesterol was at a high
of 354 with triglycerides a whopping 461. I won't say it was easy,
but my lab results from last month showed cholesterol at 141 and
cholesterol a much better but still too high 277. This is after years
on generic statins. I also recently began taking SLO-Niacin at my
doctor's recommendation to get that 277 lower.
My question for you is, which of all your cholesterol indicators is
out of wrack? As you can see, my battle was with the triglycerides,
but don't forget you also have HDL and LDL to monitor. Different foods
might help with each of those.
Good luck with this, and let us know how you're doing with the natural
items.
Judity
There are only a few more weeks before Christmas!
Books would make fun and inexpensive gifts
1,000 Words or Lesshttp://tinyurl.com/3r6evw
Home of the Red Foxhttp://tinyurl.com/vnot9
You are luck to be able to take a niacin. I can't it really causes
racing heart and facial flushing with me. I cannot tolerate it at all.
Sue M
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Sue,
I can't take Niacin either. It makes me feel like I have 3rd degree sun
burn over 50% of my body.
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| Ed Chait... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:39 pm |
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"Carol" <carolvp at (no spam) optimum.net> wrote in message
news:4ae38af4$0$31272$607ed4bc at (no spam) cv.net...
[quote]I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. Anyone have any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol (sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, Carol V.
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If you're taking red yeast rice you might as well be on a statin.
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| Carol... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:03 pm |
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Ed, I'm a littel leary about taking Red Yeast pill, heard bad things about
it. Is it close to a Statin? which one and Why?
"Carol" <carolvp at (no spam) optimum.net> wrote in message
news:4ae38af4$0$31272$607ed4bc at (no spam) cv.net...
[quote]I have to lower my cholesterol from 240 to lower than 200. Anyone have any
ideas? I want to try natural first, so i am taking beta solesterol (sp?),
and beet juice, heard Red Rice yeast pills are good, and Lecithin. Has
anyone ever used these? / or what have you tried?
Thanks, Carol V.
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