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| Androcles... |
 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:19 pm |
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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[quote]On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:23:05 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:48:15 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
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what
we
think we know about the universe.
A black hole is just a big neutron star or similar. where's the
problem?.
In Oz. Anything it doesn't understand it invents a quick solution to,
according to its faulty intuition. It's called a "Wilson".
Prove I'm wrong then.
The fuckwit's fallacy: "Prove I'm wrong"...
Burden of proof is upon the claimant.
Bright green flying elephants lay their eggs in black holes.
Prove I'm wrong then.
The Easter Bunny lays chocolate eggs.
Prove I'm wrong then.
The Tooth Fairy buys children's milk teeth.
Prove I'm wrong then.
Time dilates as speed increases.
Prove Einstein wrong then.
Where's the problem?
The problem is in Oz, it's called an illogical Wilson.
Hahahahahahahaha! You'd never make a good suicide bomber.....
Right. And you'll never find a black hole... but if you do,
look inside for broken eggshell, it'll prove my theory that
the hatchlings have left.
You know the funniest aspect of all this is that the idiots here lke
Wormey
think I'm serious....
Hahahahhahahhahahhahahaha!
Of course the fucking things are not hollow.
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Can you prove it? |
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| Sam Wormley... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:29 pm |
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Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:26:30 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1 at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
Wormey, what exactly causes a SN to explode?
Contributors include shock wave bounce and a tremendous outpouring of
neutrinos.
In the case of SN 1987A
o total anti-neutrino energy 3 x 10^52 erg
o total neutrino energy 2.5 x 10^53 erg
o total neutrino luminosity 10^55 erg/s
o average neutrino temperature 4 MeV or 10^10 K
o number of neutrinos produced 10^58 neutrinos
o neutrino flux density at the earth 5 x 10^10 /cm^2
Which comes first, the neutrinos or the explosion?
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Neutrinos are produced in the collapsing core. |
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| Sam Wormley... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:30 pm |
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Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:49:32 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowcampbell at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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Wormey, what exactly causes a SN to explode?
The short answer is gravity. If you want I can
go further into the details.
We're already far beyond 'gravity', dopey.
[/quote]
Actually not... the energy source of a supernova is gravitational
collapse, Henri. |
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| Sam Wormley... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:32 pm |
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Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
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Of course the fucking things are not hollow.
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Think about what you are saying, Henri! |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:33 pm |
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On Nov 6, 1:24 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas... at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p> wrote:
[quote]"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in messagenews:6609f5l470q2k3fhinr38fi87fau9ctmpn at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:26:30 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
Wormey, what exactly causes a SN to explode?
Contributors include shock wave bounce and a tremendous outpouring of
neutrinos.
In the case of SN 1987A
o total anti-neutrino energy 3 x 10^52 erg
o total neutrino energy 2.5 x 10^53 erg
o total neutrino luminosity 10^55 erg/s
o average neutrino temperature 4 MeV or 10^10 K
o number of neutrinos produced 10^58 neutrinos
o neutrino flux density at the earth 5 x 10^10 /cm^2
Which comes first, the neutrinos or the explosion?
Two stars collided for that one. You can clearly see the double
ejecta.
http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/localgroup/SN1987A_Challis.jpg
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Nice one. How many light years diameter for each of those rings?
~ BG |
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| Androcles... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:24 pm |
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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[quote]On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:26:30 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1 at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
Wormey, what exactly causes a SN to explode?
Contributors include shock wave bounce and a tremendous outpouring of
neutrinos.
In the case of SN 1987A
o total anti-neutrino energy 3 x 10^52 erg
o total neutrino energy 2.5 x 10^53 erg
o total neutrino luminosity 10^55 erg/s
o average neutrino temperature 4 MeV or 10^10 K
o number of neutrinos produced 10^58 neutrinos
o neutrino flux density at the earth 5 x 10^10 /cm^2
Which comes first, the neutrinos or the explosion?
Two stars collided for that one. You can clearly see the double[/quote]
ejecta.
http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/localgroup/SN1987A_Challis.jpg |
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| Henry Wilson DSc... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:03 am |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:32:29 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1 at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
Of course the fucking things are not hollow.
Think about what you are saying, Henri!
[/quote]
I always do.
You morons thought I was serious....
HahahahhahahhHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAWHAWHAHWOHOHOHo!!!!!
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer.. |
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| Henry Wilson DSc... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:11 am |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:24:53 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p>
wrote:
[quote]
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:6609f5l470q2k3fhinr38fi87fau9ctmpn at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:26:30 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1 at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
Wormey, what exactly causes a SN to explode?
Contributors include shock wave bounce and a tremendous outpouring of
neutrinos.
In the case of SN 1987A
o total anti-neutrino energy 3 x 10^52 erg
o total neutrino energy 2.5 x 10^53 erg
o total neutrino luminosity 10^55 erg/s
o average neutrino temperature 4 MeV or 10^10 K
o number of neutrinos produced 10^58 neutrinos
o neutrino flux density at the earth 5 x 10^10 /cm^2
Which comes first, the neutrinos or the explosion?
Two stars collided for that one. You can clearly see the double
ejecta.
http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/localgroup/SN1987A_Challis.jpg
[/quote]
I wouldn't want to try to work it out.
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer.. |
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| Henry Wilson DSc... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:13 am |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:30:59 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1 at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:49:32 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowcampbell at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:j7t7f5l8mp9rhiv6us7g9tu2o5vu210r6h at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Wormey, what exactly causes a SN to explode?
The short answer is gravity. If you want I can
go further into the details.
We're already far beyond 'gravity', dopey.
Actually not... the energy source of a supernova is gravitational
collapse, Henri.
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We know that, wormey...but the compression due to gravity ultimately causes
some kind of fusion... the principal energy source. Gravity alone can't cause
the bloody thing to blow up.
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer.. |
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| Androcles... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:28 am |
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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[quote]On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:24:53 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:6609f5l470q2k3fhinr38fi87fau9ctmpn at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:26:30 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1 at (no spam) mchsi.com
wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
Wormey, what exactly causes a SN to explode?
Contributors include shock wave bounce and a tremendous outpouring of
neutrinos.
In the case of SN 1987A
o total anti-neutrino energy 3 x 10^52 erg
o total neutrino energy 2.5 x 10^53 erg
o total neutrino luminosity 10^55 erg/s
o average neutrino temperature 4 MeV or 10^10 K
o number of neutrinos produced 10^58 neutrinos
o neutrino flux density at the earth 5 x 10^10 /cm^2
Which comes first, the neutrinos or the explosion?
Two stars collided for that one. You can clearly see the double
ejecta.
http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/localgroup/SN1987A_Challis.jpg
I wouldn't want to try to work it out.
We know that, D.umb Sc.umbag.[/quote] |
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| Sam Wormley... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:50 am |
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Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:30:59 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1 at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:49:32 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowcampbell at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:j7t7f5l8mp9rhiv6us7g9tu2o5vu210r6h at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Wormey, what exactly causes a SN to explode?
The short answer is gravity. If you want I can
go further into the details.
We're already far beyond 'gravity', dopey.
Actually not... the energy source of a supernova is gravitational
collapse, Henri.
We know that, wormey...but the compression due to gravity ultimately causes
some kind of fusion... the principal energy source. Gravity alone can't cause
the bloody thing to blow up.
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Not "fusion", Henri, as the term is used in the physics community.
Take the case of black hole formation, where no known force stops
the collapse of the iron slag heap core.
In a millisecond or so, many solar masses of core, disappears
leaving a... you'll like this, Henri... a void! The rest of
the star is trying to crash in while at the same time copious
energy (much in the form of neutrinos) is trying to get out.
It's a big disaster, which results in a supernova. During this
stage... there IS fusion, in the rest of the star, in the form
of r- and s-processes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-process
Pretty exciting!
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Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer..[/quote] |
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| Sam Wormley... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:53 am |
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Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:32:29 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1 at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
Of course the fucking things are not hollow.
Think about what you are saying, Henri!
I always do.
You morons thought I was serious....
HahahahhahahhHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAWHAWHAHWOHOHOHo!!!!!
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Even you thought you were serious, Henri. It takes a big
man to admit his mistakes. |
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| eric gisse... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:53 am |
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HW at (no spam) ..(Henry Wilson DSc). wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:32:29 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1 at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
Of course the fucking things are not hollow.
Think about what you are saying, Henri!
I always do.
You morons thought I was serious....
[/quote]
Why wouldn't people think you were being serious, Ralph? You routinely say
very silly things and defend them.
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HahahahhahahhHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAWHAWHAHWOHOHOHo!!!!!
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer..[/quote] |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:20 am |
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On Nov 7, 10:57 am, Saul Levy <saulle... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
[quote]Henry's NEVER serious, Sam! lmfjao!
That's why I IGNORE HIM!
Saul Levy
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:53:06 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com
wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:32:29 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
Of course the fucking things are not hollow.
Think about what you are saying, Henri!
I always do.
You morons thought I was serious....
HahahahhahahhHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAWHAWHAHWOHOHOHo!!!!!
Even you thought you were serious, Henri. It takes a big
man to admit his mistakes.
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Albert Einstein... he's the bomb! |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:27 am |
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On Nov 6, 10:13 pm, HW at (no spam) ..(Henry Wilson DSc). wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:30:59 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:49:32 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowcampb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:j7t7f5l8mp9rhiv6us7g9tu2o5vu210r6h at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Wormey, what exactly causes a SN to explode?
The short answer is gravity. If you want I can
go further into the details.
We're already far beyond 'gravity', dopey.
Actually not... the energy source of a supernova is gravitational
collapse, Henri.
We know that, wormey...but the compression due to gravity ultimately causes
some kind of fusion... the principal energy source. Gravity alone can't cause
the bloody thing to blow up.
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer..
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Correct, whereas the extremely weak force of gravity is more like
collateral damage than the bomb itself, although seismic implosions
are every bit as interesting as Browns Gas. Perhaps what's getting
inflated and then imploding at 500+ km under our dumbfounded feet is
that of large volumes of Natural Browns Gas(NBG).
~ BG |
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