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| Jan Drew... |
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http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
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| Mark Probert... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:49 pm |
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On Oct 23, 8:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
[quote]http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
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Witch Doctor Schools. |
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| trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com |... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:52 pm |
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On Oct 23, 5:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
[quote]http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
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Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
the way just a couple of feet. |
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| Peter B.... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:47 pm |
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew63929 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:d373a21f-0299-4d2e-b3db-e0e1759b2439 at (no spam) m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
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http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
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What happened to Horticulture? |
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| Jan Drew... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:44 am |
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On Oct 23, 11:52�pm, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 23, 5:04�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
the way just a couple of feet.
[/quote]
You're welcome.
Jan |
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| Mark Probert... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:07 pm |
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On Oct 23, 11:52 pm, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 23, 5:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
the way just a couple of feet.
[/quote]
In the past few years, when I see a story about a person who was going
for conventional medical treatment and was dissuaded from continuing,
it has been a naturopath who did it. I do not recall a chiropractor,
DO, or any other professional who interfers with an established doctor-
patient relationship. |
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| pautrey2... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:59 am |
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On Oct 28, 5:07 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 23, 11:52 pm, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 23, 5:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
the way just a couple of feet.
In the past few years, when I see a story about a person who was going
for conventional medical treatment and was dissuaded from continuing,
it has been a naturopath who did it. I do not recall a chiropractor,
DO, or any other professional who interfers with an established doctor-
patient relationship.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica |
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| pautrey2... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:00 am |
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| pautrey2... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:01 am |
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On Oct 23, 10:47 pm, "Peter B." <i... at (no spam) i-brag.com> wrote:
[quote]"Jan Drew" <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:d373a21f-0299-4d2e-b3db-e0e1759b2439 at (no spam) m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
What happened to Horticulture?
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| pautrey2... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:02 am |
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On Oct 23, 10:52 pm, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 23, 5:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
the way just a couple of feet.
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wishy%20washy |
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| Mark Probert... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:23 am |
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On Oct 29, 7:59 am, pautrey2 <rpautr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 28, 5:07 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:52 pm, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 23, 5:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
the way just a couple of feet.
In the past few years, when I see a story about a person who was going
for conventional medical treatment and was dissuaded from continuing,
it has been a naturopath who did it. I do not recall a chiropractor,
DO, or any other professional who interfers with an established doctor-
patient relationship.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica-
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Did you have anything intelligent to say, because if you did, your
software stripped it out of your message. |
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| trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com |... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:18 pm |
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On Oct 29, 5:02 am, pautrey2 <rpautr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 23, 10:52 pm, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 23, 5:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
the way just a couple of feet.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wishy%20washy
[/quote]
Homeopathy/cell salts are bunk. In the 19th century
it didn't matter much given the dangers of more
conventional medicine of the era. But now the conventional
medicine are more effective though highly imperfect.
Naturopathy could be so much more
than it is. My view of alternative care came by way a DO whose
used some elements of naturopathy in that he was willing to
use drugs, amino acids, nutrients, vitamin D, and certain hormones
in different ways than conventional medicine.
We differ on what good care involves. It is as if I am
on a different corner of a triangle. Mark is a different
corner and you are on the remaining one. I am about
what works and what doesn't. Sometimes I am just
thinking out loud and at other times I playing and
trying on ideas. I hope I am about process not
foregone conclusions.
Take for example the vaccine controversy, there
those who doubt all vaccines and those who support
all vaccines. It seems to me these are roles perhaps
even needed roles. But it also seems to me, that
the ideal/ the reality of what approaches optimal
is going to be something a bit different than each
of these camps would claim.
Would I use an herbal remedy? Sure in that I have.
And they've worked or helped.
Would I go to MD to get an antibiotic? I have
done that. Would I go to the county health
department office and get the hep A and B shot
series? I've done that. Have I taken the
recent flu shots? No. And I figure my innate
immune system is better shape the major
here or in the general population and that
I am much less prone to range of ailments
include than the influenza. Do I take nutriceuticals
and vitamins on a daily basis with good and
profound effects, I certainly do. Do these
displace conventional drugs certainly while being
MORE effective than conventional drugs, certainly.
So instead of having adverse effects from conventional
med, I get additional beneficial effects :-)
I see cell salts as a useless distraction and as
something that needs to be dropped from
alternative medicine. I get that it is an article
of faith and that is the problem. In the vaccine
controversy, I suspect neither camp here has quite
got it right. While clearly I am closer to Mark and his
crew on the vaccine issue, I allow room for some
doubt and certainly room of other means of keeping
the immune system healthy and strong besides
vaccines. Nor do I see vaccines as without some
risks. And in theory some truly bad risks at that.
There is far far too little research in preventative
health and much of what has been been
clearly flawed like the defunct SELECT study.
There were complaints about that study even before
it was started and one associated researcher
even admitted to some of its having failings after
it was shut down.
Do I shift opinions at times? Yes. Do my views neatly fit in
either camp? No.
Is that wishy washy enough for you?
I certainly hope so.........................................Trig |
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| pautrey2... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:33 pm |
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[quote]Is that wishy washy enough for you?
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Yes.
On Oct 29, 6:18 pm, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 29, 5:02 am, pautrey2 <rpautr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 23, 10:52 pm, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 23, 5:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
the way just a couple of feet.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wishy%20washy
Homeopathy/cell salts are bunk. In the 19th century
it didn't matter much given the dangers of more
conventional medicine of the era. But now the conventional
medicine are more effective though highly imperfect.
Naturopathy could be so much more
than it is. My view of alternative care came by way a DO whose
used some elements of naturopathy in that he was willing to
use drugs, amino acids, nutrients, vitamin D, and certain hormones
in different ways than conventional medicine.
We differ on what good care involves. It is as if I am
on a different corner of a triangle. Mark is a different
corner and you are on the remaining one. I am about
what works and what doesn't. Sometimes I am just
thinking out loud and at other times I playing and
trying on ideas. I hope I am about process not
foregone conclusions.
Take for example the vaccine controversy, there
those who doubt all vaccines and those who support
all vaccines. It seems to me these are roles perhaps
even needed roles. But it also seems to me, that
the ideal/ the reality of what approaches optimal
is going to be something a bit different than each
of these camps would claim.
Would I use an herbal remedy? Sure in that I have.
And they've worked or helped.
Would I go to MD to get an antibiotic? I have
done that. Would I go to the county health
department office and get the hep A and B shot
series? I've done that. Have I taken the
recent flu shots? No. And I figure my innate
immune system is better shape the major
here or in the general population and that
I am much less prone to range of ailments
include than the influenza. Do I take nutriceuticals
and vitamins on a daily basis with good and
profound effects, I certainly do. Do these
displace conventional drugs certainly while being
MORE effective than conventional drugs, certainly.
So instead of having adverse effects from conventional
med, I get additional beneficial effects :-)
I see cell salts as a useless distraction and as
something that needs to be dropped from
alternative medicine. I get that it is an article
of faith and that is the problem. In the vaccine
controversy, I suspect neither camp here has quite
got it right. While clearly I am closer to Mark and his
crew on the vaccine issue, I allow room for some
doubt and certainly room of other means of keeping
the immune system healthy and strong besides
vaccines. Nor do I see vaccines as without some
risks. And in theory some truly bad risks at that.
There is far far too little research in preventative
health and much of what has been been
clearly flawed like the defunct SELECT study.
There were complaints about that study even before
it was started and one associated researcher
even admitted to some of its having failings after
it was shut down.
Do I shift opinions at times? Yes. Do my views neatly fit in
either camp? No.
Is that wishy washy enough for you?
I certainly hope so.........................................Trig- Hide quoted text -
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| trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com |... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:23 pm |
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On Oct 29, 8:33 pm, pautrey2 <rpautr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Is that wishy washy enough for you?
Yes.
Are you Peter B? In alter ego form?[/quote]
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| pautrey2... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:30 pm |
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[quote]Are you Peter B? In alter ego form?
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No.
On Oct 30, 1:23 am, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 29, 8:33 pm, pautrey2 <rpautr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:> > Is that wishy washy enough for you?
Yes.
Are you Peter B? In alter ego form?
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