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| Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.... |
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EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
On Sunday night, March 17, 1996, the Learning Channel aired a special
one-hour broadcast called “Incident at Roswell.” Many Roswell
eyewitnesses were interviewed, including Frank Kaufman, who had a most
interesting tale to tell.
During World War II, Kaufman was assigned to the Counter-Intelligence
Corps (CIC). The Army put him through specialized training designed to
turn him into a competent aviation mechanic and then “planted” him at
the new Roswell air base in 1943.
Why? Well, according to Kaufman, while facilities for the Manhattan
Project, i.e. the atomic bomb, were being constructed, Army radar
stations in Albuquerque, Los Alamos and Alamogordo regularly picked up
unidentified blips on their screens. These radar contacts began in
1942 and continued right up to the Roswell incident. Kaufman said the
UFOs “would hover two or three thousand feet in the air and then drop
like a stone, zip, right off the screen.”
Concerned about the threat to the Manhattan Project, the Army placed
several CIC agents at the Roswell base. When the report of a crashed
UFO came from Brigardier General Martin Scanlan on July 4, 1947,
Kaufman and his team of agents went out to the crash site, which he
described as “very rough country, no roads at all.” They found the
UFO, shaped like a man’s shoe heel, crashed into the wall of an
arroyo. The vehicle was split open, and the team found four dead
aliens...and one that was still alive!
Kaufman said the UFO was loaded onto a flatbed truck, brought back to
the base, and stored in Hangar 84, which had an armed M.P. platoon all
around it. The four dead aliens were laid out on a tarpaulin before
the ambulance took them to the base hospital for the autopsy.
Apparently, there’s a lot of information about UFOs in the U.S. during
World War II and the Army Air Corps response to the threat that
remains locked away in the Top Secret file cabinets. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:58 pm |
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in message
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EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
All this proves, LipFlapper, is that people in the Military, who are
stationed
at desolate outposts, have the tendency to take a nip of 'shine now and
then,
which causes them to see things which aren't really there ... sort of like
the
"pink elephant" of myth.
Case closed. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:37 pm |
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in
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EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
All this proves, LipFlapper, is that people in the Military, who are
stationed
at desolate outposts, have the tendency to take a nip of 'shine now and
then,
which causes them to see things which aren't really there ... sort of like
the
"pink elephant" of myth.
Case closed.
[/quote]
What about airforce pilots and senior military officials while they're on
duty or in flight?
Are you saying they were all drinking?
Can you drink and fly a fighter jet at the same time?
Can senior officials keep getting away with drinking while on duty?
What are you saying exactly?
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On Oct 22, 7:37 pm, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au>
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[quote]"Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote in message
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie... at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in
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EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
All this proves, LipFlapper, is that people in the Military, who are
stationed
at desolate outposts, have the tendency to take a nip of 'shine now and
then,
which causes them to see things which aren't really there ... sort of like
the
"pink elephant" of myth.
Case closed.
What about airforce pilots and senior military officials while they're on
duty or in flight?
Are you saying they were all drinking?
Can you drink and fly a fighter jet at the same time?
Can senior officials keep getting away with drinking while on duty?
What are you saying exactly?
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If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned enough.
If you believe something too much then you have the same problem.
[/quote]
Ignore Hagar, he is your typical debunker, an 11-year old bed-wetter
whose time on Internet is limited by his Mommy to one hour a day.
Humor him is the best strategy for this useless eater. |
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| Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:10 am |
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On Oct 23, 6:37 am, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
[quote]"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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"Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote in message
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie... at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in
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EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
All this proves, LipFlapper, is that people in the Military, who are
stationed
at desolate outposts, have the tendency to take a nip of 'shine now and
then,
which causes them to see things which aren't really there ... sort of
like the
"pink elephant" of myth.
Case closed.
What about airforce pilots and senior military officials while they're on
duty or in flight?
Are you saying they were all drinking?
Can you drink and fly a fighter jet at the same time?
Can senior officials keep getting away with drinking while on duty?
What are you saying exactly?
What I'm saying exactly is that they are all hallucinating when they claim
to have observed Aleeun UFOs. Alcohol is a rather common cause for
this ... so is weed ... or magic 'shrooms ... take your pick.
However, show me one single piece of hard evidence, and I mean a piece
of metal not manufactured on Earth, a book with Alien hieroglyphs, an
irrefutable, non-photo-shopped close-up picture ... and I will gladly
withdraw
my first allegation ... But I know you just can't do it, neither can
LipFlapper.
[/quote]
Yes, debunkers do hallucinate, that is the only possible explanation! |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:37 am |
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"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwerner at (no spam) optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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[quote]"Hagar" <hagen at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote in message
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in
message
news:0aefb444-3e61-4ac4-b113-0b088605322f at (no spam) g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
All this proves, LipFlapper, is that people in the Military, who are
stationed
at desolate outposts, have the tendency to take a nip of 'shine now and
then,
which causes them to see things which aren't really there ... sort of
like the
"pink elephant" of myth.
Case closed.
What about airforce pilots and senior military officials while they're on
duty or in flight?
Are you saying they were all drinking?
Can you drink and fly a fighter jet at the same time?
Can senior officials keep getting away with drinking while on duty?
What are you saying exactly?
[/quote]
What I'm saying exactly is that they are all hallucinating when they claim
to have observed Aleeun UFOs. Alcohol is a rather common cause for
this ... so is weed ... or magic 'shrooms ... take your pick.
However, show me one single piece of hard evidence, and I mean a piece
of metal not manufactured on Earth, a book with Alien hieroglyphs, an
irrefutable, non-photo-shopped close-up picture ... and I will gladly
withdraw
my first allegation ... But I know you just can't do it, neither can
LipFlapper. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:42 am |
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On Oct 24, 2:37 am, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
[quote]What I'm saying exactly is that they are all hallucinating when they claim
to have observed Aleeun UFOs. Alcohol is a rather common cause for
this ... so is weed ... or magic 'shrooms ... take your pick.
However, show me one single piece of hard evidence, and I mean a piece
of metal not manufactured on Earth, a book with Alien hieroglyphs, an
irrefutable, non-photo-shopped close-up picture ... and I will gladly
withdraw
my first allegation ... But I know you just can't do it, neither can
LipFlapper
[/quote]
Holeflapper has as much idea about RADAR and its early development as
he has about any other reality.
UFOs are just that.
Unidentified Flying Objects and the early RADAR displays returned all
manner of errant signals.
As for aliens visiting Earth consider the distances and time required
to get anywhere.
Its all nonsense.. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:33 am |
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Yes, debunkers do hallucinate, that is the only possible explanation!
[/quote]
Hi Sir Arthur!
My friends and I were having a discussion and I wonder if
you could help clear up a question we have.
I say you're gay and they say you're bi.
Which is it?
Thanks in advance!
Your bestest buddy, Harlow
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:51 pm |
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On Oct 24, 9:38 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au>
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[quote]george wrote:
On Oct 24, 2:37 am, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
What I'm saying exactly is that they are all hallucinating when they
claim to have observed Aleeun UFOs. Alcohol is a rather common cause
for
this ... so is weed ... or magic 'shrooms ... take your pick.
However, show me one single piece of hard evidence, and I mean a
piece
of metal not manufactured on Earth, a book with Alien hieroglyphs, an
irrefutable, non-photo-shopped close-up picture ... and I will gladly
withdraw
my first allegation ... But I know you just can't do it, neither can
LipFlapper
Holeflapper has as much idea about RADAR and its early development as
he has about any other reality.
UFOs are just that.
Unidentified Flying Objects and the early RADAR displays returned all
manner of errant signals.
We already know about those. There were also signals of solid objects.
Oh? And how do you differentiate between a 'ghost' and a solid[/quote]
return ?
[quote]
As for aliens visiting Earth consider the distances and time required
to get anywhere.
There's only a distance and time problem when we consider our own technology
and understandings.
Most ETs are thousands of years ahead of us in technology. Why would they
use our tech to get around space?
Even we humans now have new theories of how to get around the distance
problem.
Rubbish. Trot out the alien technology, the off world metals and the[/quote]
aliens.
That's all it will take to prove that you are correct and I'm wrong...
[quote]
Its all nonsense..
Translation: I can't get my head around it all and I have little knowledge
about it.
[/quote]
That's your translation and as such you are wrong which I suppose is
nothing new to you.. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:20 pm |
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[quote]
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"Hagar" <hagen at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote in message
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in
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EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
All this proves, LipFlapper, is that people in the Military, who are
stationed
at desolate outposts, have the tendency to take a nip of 'shine now and
then,
which causes them to see things which aren't really there ... sort of
like the
"pink elephant" of myth.
Case closed.
What about airforce pilots and senior military officials while they're on
duty or in flight?
Are you saying they were all drinking?
Can you drink and fly a fighter jet at the same time?
Can senior officials keep getting away with drinking while on duty?
What are you saying exactly?
What I'm saying exactly is that they are all hallucinating when they claim
to have observed Aleeun UFOs.
[/quote]
And you base that on what exactly?
Are you a psychologist?
The individuals were interviewed and checked out in many cases by people in
the psychological field and to date there hasn't been one who had a tendance
for hallucinations.
Isn't it possible that you and others like you simply can't handle the
higher possibilities that the hundreds of ufo sightings and experiences
around the world every year are pointing to?
[quote]
Alcohol is a rather common cause for
this ... so is weed ... or magic 'shrooms ... take your pick.
[/quote]
Those cases never get reported because the individuals know that they had
been doing that.
It think we would have heard by now if someone had reported something and it
was found that they had been drinking etc.
Don't you think?
[quote]
However, show me one single piece of hard evidence, and I mean a piece
of metal not manufactured on Earth, a book with Alien hieroglyphs, an
irrefutable, non-photo-shopped close-up picture ... and I will gladly
withdraw
my first allegation ... But I know you just can't do it, neither can
LipFlapper.
[/quote]
Due to the secrecy, politics and war mentality in effect in this world, your
request would be rather hard to fill. You must understand this.
There is material evidence, but its in private and government hands. Its not
for public show.
However if you do some research and read the testimonies of the hundreds, in
fact now thousands of credible witnesses and experiencers from around the
world then you can form a picture of what's happening in this world.
Unfortunately that's the best that can be done at this time until the human
race evolves beyond its secretive, political and war like nature.
If you can't accept that then we can't help you.
What you can do right now is start by studying the military's secrecy
policies to get a handle on their motives and mentalities, and then move on
to looking at their hundreds and thousands of documents on ufo activity in
the past few decades.
Then you can look at all the testimonies including the ones by high ranking
officers etc. who have come forward.
Have a look at the disclosure project on youtube.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:38 pm |
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george wrote:
[quote]On Oct 24, 2:37 am, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
What I'm saying exactly is that they are all hallucinating when they
claim to have observed Aleeun UFOs. Alcohol is a rather common cause
for
this ... so is weed ... or magic 'shrooms ... take your pick.
However, show me one single piece of hard evidence, and I mean a
piece
of metal not manufactured on Earth, a book with Alien hieroglyphs, an
irrefutable, non-photo-shopped close-up picture ... and I will gladly
withdraw
my first allegation ... But I know you just can't do it, neither can
LipFlapper
Holeflapper has as much idea about RADAR and its early development as
he has about any other reality.
UFOs are just that.
Unidentified Flying Objects and the early RADAR displays returned all
manner of errant signals.
[/quote]
We already know about those. There were also signals of solid objects.
[quote]
As for aliens visiting Earth consider the distances and time required
to get anywhere.
[/quote]
There's only a distance and time problem when we consider our own technology
and understandings.
Most ETs are thousands of years ahead of us in technology. Why would they
use our tech to get around space?
Even we humans now have new theories of how to get around the distance
problem.
[quote]
Its all nonsense..
[/quote]
Translation: I can't get my head around it all and I have little knowledge
about it.
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If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned
enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
problem. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:40 pm |
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On Oct 24, 12:20 pm, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au>
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[quote]george wrote:
On Oct 24, 9:38 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au
wrote:
george wrote:
On Oct 24, 2:37 am, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
What I'm saying exactly is that they are all hallucinating when
they claim to have observed Aleeun UFOs. Alcohol is a rather
common cause for
this ... so is weed ... or magic 'shrooms ... take your pick.
However, show me one single piece of hard evidence, and I mean a
piece
of metal not manufactured on Earth, a book with Alien hieroglyphs,
an irrefutable, non-photo-shopped close-up picture ... and I will
gladly withdraw
my first allegation ... But I know you just can't do it, neither
can LipFlapper
Holeflapper has as much idea about RADAR and its early development
as he has about any other reality.
UFOs are just that.
Unidentified Flying Objects and the early RADAR displays returned
all manner of errant signals.
We already know about those. There were also signals of solid
objects.
Oh? And how do you differentiate between a 'ghost' and a solid
return ?
Ask the trained radar operators. Do some research by getting info on what
the case analysts concluded from them.
[/quote]
I am not going to interview myself
Sheesh Why do you think I asked you
[quote]Rubbish. Trot out the alien technology, the off world metals and the
aliens.
That's all it will take to prove that you are correct and I'm wrong...
I can't just 'trot' out the alien technology due to the fact that its in
military and private hands.
The military is not going to just put these things in museums. Can't you
debunkers understand that?
This world isn't ready for that kind of openness yet. It will probably be at
least a decade until we start seeing these things in museums.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's the way it is in this fear, power and
secrecy based world.
But what you *can* do is find and read the secret government documents that
have been trickle released over the years, and listen to the many
testimonies from credible military whistleblowers about the hardware that
*was* recovered.
Then you will begin to see the big picture starting to appear of what the
truth is.
[/quote]
Okay. This secretive military is something that doesn't and can't
exist.
Just for one minute think of all the people in your neighbourhood who
have been in the military.
And those places where saucer nuts claim the 'Flying saucers' are
held.
Some-one must be guarding those sites, painting them, cleaning them,
replacing lightbulbs and so on.
The guards need feeding, housing, married quarters, pay, sickbays,
transport, supervising officers.
The short term enlistment in the US is about 3-5 years.
Then you have the same thing replicated in every other country
throughout the world.
By this time over the last 60 years the numbers of military who have
knowledge of this 'flying saucer' storage is in the hundred of
thousands worldwide yet only one or two 'whistleblowers'.... ?
As a bye.
In the military we had a rumour system called 'Scuttlebut' there
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george wrote:
[quote]On Oct 24, 9:38 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au
wrote:
george wrote:
On Oct 24, 2:37 am, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
What I'm saying exactly is that they are all hallucinating when
they claim to have observed Aleeun UFOs. Alcohol is a rather
common cause for
this ... so is weed ... or magic 'shrooms ... take your pick.
However, show me one single piece of hard evidence, and I mean a
piece
of metal not manufactured on Earth, a book with Alien hieroglyphs,
an irrefutable, non-photo-shopped close-up picture ... and I will
gladly withdraw
my first allegation ... But I know you just can't do it, neither
can LipFlapper
Holeflapper has as much idea about RADAR and its early development
as he has about any other reality.
UFOs are just that.
Unidentified Flying Objects and the early RADAR displays returned
all manner of errant signals.
We already know about those. There were also signals of solid
objects.
Oh? And how do you differentiate between a 'ghost' and a solid
return ?
[/quote]
Ask the trained radar operators. Do some research by getting info on what
the case analysts concluded from them.
I've heard the conclusions but I'm not going to do your homework for you.
Its up to you to make an effort to find what will help you to make up your
own mind.
[quote]
As for aliens visiting Earth consider the distances and time
required to get anywhere.
There's only a distance and time problem when we consider our own
technology and understandings.
Most ETs are thousands of years ahead of us in technology. Why would
they use our tech to get around space?
Even we humans now have new theories of how to get around the
distance problem.
Rubbish. Trot out the alien technology, the off world metals and the
aliens.
That's all it will take to prove that you are correct and I'm wrong...
[/quote]
I can't just 'trot' out the alien technology due to the fact that its in
military and private hands.
The military is not going to just put these things in museums. Can't you
debunkers understand that?
This world isn't ready for that kind of openness yet. It will probably be at
least a decade until we start seeing these things in museums.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's the way it is in this fear, power and
secrecy based world.
But what you *can* do is find and read the secret government documents that
have been trickle released over the years, and listen to the many
testimonies from credible military whistleblowers about the hardware that
*was* recovered.
Then you will begin to see the big picture starting to appear of what the
truth is.
[quote]
Its all nonsense..
Translation: I can't get my head around it all and I have little
knowledge about it.
That's your translation and as such you are wrong which I suppose is
nothing new to you..
[/quote]
No, you are wrong because what you're saying is totally different to what
the experts are saying.
The experts and scientists are not saying "Its all nonsense" are they?
Only you immature and uninformed debunkers are saying that because your
minds are now closed on the subject because nobody handed you the 'hard
evidence' on a silver platter as you sat in your comfortable armchairs.
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enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:11 pm |
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On Oct 24, 3:21 pm, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au>
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[quote]Please educate yourself on how the military works and what lengths it goes
to to keep its secrets to a handful of very high ranking officers.
[/quote]
You really don't know a great deal about the military do you...
Why not join up and find out how the military works.
They'll give you the top job if you join the Navy.
I'm sure you'll do well as Captain of the Heads....
And America isn't the only country in the world that has claims of
UFO's and nutters who claim their military have these vehicles stored
away.
Of course this is why we still have to launch rockets to get up to the
Space Station. All that alien technology works so well ...
Riiight.. |
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george wrote:
[quote]On Oct 24, 12:20 pm, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au
wrote:
george wrote:
On Oct 24, 9:38 am, "Andrew W"
removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au> wrote:
george wrote:
Holeflapper has as much idea about RADAR and its early development
as he has about any other reality.
UFOs are just that.
Unidentified Flying Objects and the early RADAR displays returned
all manner of errant signals.
We already know about those. There were also signals of solid
objects.
Oh? And how do you differentiate between a 'ghost' and a solid
return ?
Ask the trained radar operators. Do some research by getting info on
what the case analysts concluded from them.
I am not going to interview myself
Sheesh Why do you think I asked you
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Were you present at all the radar sightings?
Have you at least spoken with several other radar personnel at airforce
bases and airports as well as experts?
How many?
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Rubbish. Trot out the alien technology, the off world metals and the
aliens.
That's all it will take to prove that you are correct and I'm
wrong...
I can't just 'trot' out the alien technology due to the fact that
its in military and private hands.
The military is not going to just put these things in museums. Can't
you debunkers understand that?
This world isn't ready for that kind of openness yet. It will
probably be at least a decade until we start seeing these things in
museums.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's the way it is in this fear,
power and secrecy based world.
But what you *can* do is find and read the secret government
documents that have been trickle released over the years, and listen
to the many testimonies from credible military whistleblowers about
the hardware that *was* recovered.
Then you will begin to see the big picture starting to appear of
what the truth is.
Okay. This secretive military is something that doesn't and can't
exist.
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Huh? There's no military secrecy? You mean we can tell Russia and Iraq etc.
everything without any problems?
What exactly was the cold war?
UFOs were shoved under the military wing because that was when the war was
going on.
The first belief by the military was that UFOs were a new Russian or German
weapon.
Didn't you know that?
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Just for one minute think of all the people in your neighbourhood who
have been in the military.
And those places where saucer nuts claim the 'Flying saucers' are
held.
Some-one must be guarding those sites, painting them, cleaning them,
replacing lightbulbs and so on.
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They are. Just try getting into some of those facilities and you'll soon
know it.
[quote]
The guards need feeding, housing, married quarters, pay, sickbays,
transport, supervising officers.
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Where do you think a good percentage of your tax money has been going?
Ever heard of black projects? They are well documented.
[quote]
The short term enlistment in the US is about 3-5 years.
Then you have the same thing replicated in every other country
throughout the world.
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That's the GIs.
Did you think that the GIs are all that exist in the military world?
You've obviously never heard of special ops., seals etc.
[quote]
By this time over the last 60 years the numbers of military who have
knowledge of this 'flying saucer' storage is in the hundred of
thousands worldwide yet only one or two 'whistleblowers'.... ?
[/quote]
Boy are you behind in this area.
Let me clue you in to some well known military phrases.
Chain of command, need to know, compartmentalisation, special projects.
And you thought that there was only one or two whistleblowers out there?
Lol!
And you think that we should be seeing all the whistleblowers on the six
o'clock news? Lol!
You need to do some serious research.
Watch the Disclosure Project on youtube to start with.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Disclosure+Project+&search_type=&aq=f
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As a bye.
In the military we had a rumour system called 'Scuttlebut' there
wasn't much planned that we didn't know before it happened.
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Nearly every Dick and Harry who serves in the military thinks that they
"would have known if such and such was going on".
Lol!
Please educate yourself on how the military works and what lengths it goes
to to keep its secrets to a handful of very high ranking officers.
--
If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned
enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
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