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| Winston... |
 Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:03 pm |
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Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
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[quote]The only thing you are liable to get is arrested for stealing. Insane,
but true.
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OK, now I'm completely confused!
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| Winston... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:19 am |
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SteveB wrote:
[quote]"Winston" <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> wrote
My original question was poorly worded. It was:
"Turning down the collar would make a perfectly acceptable trade-in
hinky, yes?"
What the fuck is a "hinky"?
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"Hinky" means 'to appear suspicious' or 'to be questionable'.
"Turning down the collar would make a perfectly acceptable trade-in
appear suspicious, yes?"
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| Winston... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:41 am |
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SteveB wrote:
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[quote]So it is with bankrupt companies, and companies that are out of business
provided the ensuing company does not claim rights to them. They can be
traded bottle for bottle, provided they are within hydro, have an
identifying paper ID label designating what gas is inside, and that they
have no manually stamped ID below that.
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That is perfectly reasonable and answers my question. Thanks!
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[quote]With an open valve, there is a chance that moisture has gotten in there,
and the valve has to be removed, the cylinder has to be endoscopically
inspected, and maybe polished internally by rolling with ball bearings
and an abrasive medium. Then purged and filled. So, when you use your
cylinders, resist the urge to drain them dry, and leave SOME pressure in them.
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I always returned bottles with some pressure in them, just because
it seemed like a reasonable thing to do. If you asked me why I did that,
I would not have been able to give you a good reason.
*That* is a good reason.
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| Winston... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:49 am |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
[quote]On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:44:37 -0600, "SteveB" <oldfart at (no spam) depends.com
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"Winston" <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> wrote
My original question was poorly worded. It was:
"Turning down the collar would make a perfectly acceptable trade-in
hinky, yes?"
What the fuck is a "hinky"?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hinky
1. hinky
Something as yet undefinable is wrong, out of place; not quite right.
There's something hinky about the deal.
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Yup.
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| SteveB... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:43 am |
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"Winston" <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> wrote
[quote]With an open valve, there is a chance that moisture has gotten in there,
and the valve has to be removed, the cylinder has to be endoscopically
inspected, and maybe polished internally by rolling with ball bearings
and an abrasive medium. Then purged and filled. So, when you use your
cylinders, resist the urge to drain them dry, and leave SOME pressure in
them.
I always returned bottles with some pressure in them, just because
it seemed like a reasonable thing to do. If you asked me why I did that,
I would not have been able to give you a good reason.
*That* is a good reason.
--Winston
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Some scuba shops will not (or can not by law) refill a bottle with an open
valve until the valve has been removed and the interior inspected and
cleaned. This is because 99.9% of the time, chances are that salt water is
in there, and lot of newer tanks are now made of aluminum instead of the old
steel ones. There is enough change of temperature from daylight to dark and
back over a few days for a tank to actually breathe in and out, and in
places where there is humidity, the moisture stays behind after the air is
exhaled during a heated time period. Or if it rains, water droplets are
actually pulled into the tank with the drop of temperature and subsequent
reducing air pressure inside the tank. Minimal, yet measurable. Ever
notice how much a bottle of water expands and contracts in the sun? Same
thing.
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| Winston... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:17 am |
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SteveB wrote:
[quote]"Winston" <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> wrote
With an open valve, there is a chance that moisture has gotten in there,
and the valve has to be removed, the cylinder has to be endoscopically
inspected, and maybe polished internally by rolling with ball bearings
and an abrasive medium. Then purged and filled. So, when you use your
cylinders, resist the urge to drain them dry, and leave SOME pressure in
them.
I always returned bottles with some pressure in them, just because
it seemed like a reasonable thing to do. If you asked me why I did that,
I would not have been able to give you a good reason.
*That* is a good reason.
--Winston
Some scuba shops will not (or can not by law) refill a bottle with an open
valve until the valve has been removed and the interior inspected and
cleaned. This is because 99.9% of the time, chances are that salt water is
in there, and lot of newer tanks are now made of aluminum instead of the old
steel ones. There is enough change of temperature from daylight to dark and
back over a few days for a tank to actually breathe in and out, and in
places where there is humidity, the moisture stays behind after the air is
exhaled during a heated time period.
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An extreme case is an open O2 bottle, stored long term in a shop that uses
a lot of spray oil:
http://www.triflowlubricants.com/resources/
I'm getting goose bumps here. Yeow!
--Winston |
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| Joe Pfeiffer... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:27 am |
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Winston <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> writes:
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An extreme case is an open O2 bottle, stored long term in a shop that uses
a lot of spray oil:
http://www.triflowlubricants.com/resources/
I'm getting goose bumps here. Yeow!
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That's just the company's resources directory. Do you have a url for
the actual disaster?
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As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should
be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin) |
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| Winston... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:55 am |
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
[quote]Winston <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> writes:
An extreme case is an open O2 bottle, stored long term in a shop that uses
a lot of spray oil:
http://www.triflowlubricants.com/resources/
I'm getting goose bumps here. Yeow!
That's just the company's resources directory. Do you have a url for
the actual disaster?
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Wooops.
I see that I inadvertently implied that the great folks at Triflow did
something very stupid and suffered a disaster. Not True!
I intended to indicate the kind of product that could cause a significant
problem if it were used unwisely, thassall.
I use and like Triflow products a lot; never meant to indicate there
had been a problem with them or their products at all.
Sorry
--Winston |
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| Joe Pfeiffer... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:49 pm |
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Winston <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> writes:
[quote]Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Winston <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> writes:
An extreme case is an open O2 bottle, stored long term in a shop that uses
a lot of spray oil:
http://www.triflowlubricants.com/resources/
I'm getting goose bumps here. Yeow!
That's just the company's resources directory. Do you have a url for
the actual disaster?
Wooops.
I see that I inadvertently implied that the great folks at Triflow did
something very stupid and suffered a disaster. Not True!
I intended to indicate the kind of product that could cause a significant
problem if it were used unwisely, thassall.
I use and like Triflow products a lot; never meant to indicate there
had been a problem with them or their products at all.
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Ah, OK -- I had them impression it was a link to Triflow posting a
cautionary tale.
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be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin) |
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| Winston... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:08 pm |
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
[quote]Winston <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> writes:
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Winston <Winston at (no spam) bigbrother.net> writes:
An extreme case is an open O2 bottle, stored long term in a shop that uses
a lot of spray oil:
http://www.triflowlubricants.com/resources/
I'm getting goose bumps here. Yeow!
That's just the company's resources directory. Do you have a url for
the actual disaster?
Wooops.
I see that I inadvertently implied that the great folks at Triflow did
something very stupid and suffered a disaster. Not True!
I intended to indicate the kind of product that could cause a significant
problem if it were used unwisely, thassall.
I use and like Triflow products a lot; never meant to indicate there
had been a problem with them or their products at all.
Ah, OK -- I had them impression it was a link to Triflow posting a
cautionary tale.
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My bad.
--Winston |
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