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| RArmant |
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| Darryl |
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:47 pm |
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It is interesting that they make no reference to nicotine (as an
antioxidant, metal chelator or playing a role in the downregulation of
microglia) as a potential treatment of AD (remember there is an
inverse relationship between smoking and the incidence of AD and
Parkinson's disease) although they do discuss Lithium as a GSK-3alpha
inhibitor.
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| Mack McKinnon |
| Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:15 am |
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They do go on. Bottom line seems to be:
"So, as part of our new brain-maintenance formulation, we provide 2 to 3
grams of choline per day in the form of a tasty drink mix."
Thought they might. Go to the Home page and you'll find it there: 180 pills
for a hundred bucks.
The late Dr. Roy Walford had some comments about Pearson/Shaw in his book,
"Beyond the 120-Day Diet." Without endorsing his comments, either, someone
might want to read them before getting too serious about Pearson/Shaw.
mack
austin
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| Philippic |
| Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:38 pm |
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"Mack McKinnon" <MckinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com
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The late Dr. Roy Walford had some comments about Pearson/Shaw in his book,
"Beyond the 120-Day Diet." Without endorsing his comments, either,
someone
might want to read them before getting too serious about Pearson/Shaw.
Did he mention this at all:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094963/fullcredits#writers
Full Cast and Crew for
Dead Pool, The (1988)
Directed by
Buddy Van Horn
Writing credits
Harry Julian Fink (characters) and
Rita M. Fink (characters) (as R.M. Fink)
Steve Sharon (story) &
Durk Pearson (story) &
Sandy Shakiocus (story) (as Sandy Shaw)
Steve Sharon (screenplay)
Cast (in credits order) verified as complete
Clint Eastwood .... Insp. 'Dirty' Harry Callahan
Patricia Clarkson .... Samantha 'Sam' Walker
Liam Neeson .... Peter Swan
[etc]
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| Peter H Proctor |
| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:26 pm |
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On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:38:19 GMT, "Philippic"
<·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·@11Home.com> wrote:
Quote: Did he mention this at all:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094963/fullcredits#writers
Full Cast and Crew for
Dead Pool, The (1988)
Writing credits
Durk Pearson (story) &
Sandy Shakiocus (story) (as Sandy Shaw)
Cast (in credits order) verified as complete
Clint Eastwood .... Insp. 'Dirty' Harry Callahan
Another major figure in free radical research, Harry Demopoulus, is
in a couple of the Clint Eastwood movies. Harry and his coworkers
did much of the original work on the role of radicals in stroke and
spinal cord injury... See:
http://www.nitrone.com/nxy/demopolous78.htm
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| Philippic |
| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:13 pm |
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"Peter H Proctor" <drp@drproctor.com> wrote in message
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Another major figure in free radical research, Harry Demopoulus, is
in a couple of the Clint Eastwood movies. Harry and his coworkers
did much of the original work on the role of radicals in stroke and
spinal cord injury... See:
http://www.nitrone.com/nxy/demopolous78.htm
Excellent stuff!
And here is his IMDb entry:
Harry Demopoulos M.D.
Sometimes Credited As:
Harry B. Demopoulos
Actor - filmography
1.. Dead Pool, The (1988) .... Doctor in Hospital Room
2.. Cobra (1986) (as Harry B. Demopoulos) .... Dr. Demopoulos
3.. City Heat (1984) .... Roman Orgy Patron
4.. Sudden Impact (1983) .... Dr. Barton
"Peter H Proctor" <drp@drproctor.com> wrote in message
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Another major figure in free radical research, Harry Demopoulus, is
in a couple of the Clint Eastwood movies. Harry and his coworkers
did much of the original work on the role of radicals in stroke and
spinal cord injury... See:
http://www.nitrone.com/nxy/demopolous78.htm
Excellent stuff!
And here is his IMDb entry, from:
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0218647/
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Harry Demopoulos M.D.
Sometimes Credited As:
Harry B. Demopoulos
Actor - filmography
1.. Dead Pool, The (1988) .... Doctor in Hospital Room
2.. Cobra (1986) (as Harry B. Demopoulos) .... Dr. Demopoulos
3.. City Heat (1984) .... Roman Orgy Patron
4.. Sudden Impact (1983) .... Dr. Barton
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A few things to look out for there, I think!
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| Philippic |
| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:21 pm |
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No, I don't know why some of that post appeared *twice*...
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| Peter H Proctor |
| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:00 pm |
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:13:25 GMT, "Philippic"
<·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·@11Home.com> wrote:
Quote: "Peter H Proctor" <drp@drproctor.com> wrote in message
news:i32me057p72tmetvuiikbcodu8dc4n4joo
Another major figure in free radical research, Harry Demopoulus, is
in a couple of the Clint Eastwood movies.
http://www.nitrone.com/nxy/demopolous78.htm
And here is his IMDb entry:
Harry Demopoulos M.D.
Actor - filmography
1.. Dead Pool, The (1988) .... Doctor in Hospital Room
2.. Cobra (1986) (as Harry B. Demopoulos) .... Dr. Demopoulos
3.. City Heat (1984) .... Roman Orgy Patron
4.. Sudden Impact (1983) .... Dr. Barton
My little touch with greatness<G>
Papers of Peter H. Proctor with Harry B. Demopoulos
1) McGinness, J.E., Proctor, P.H., Demopoulos, H.B., Hokansen, J.A.
and Kirkpatrick, D. S. Amelioration of cis-platinum nephrotoxicity by
orgotein (superoxide dismutase). Physiol. Chem. and Phys. 10: 267-277,
1978.
2) McGinness, J.E., Proctor, P.H., Demopoulos, H.B., Hokansen, J.A.
and Van, N.T. In vivo evidence for superoxide and peroxide production
by adriamycin and cis-platinum. In: Pathology of Oxygen. A. Autor,
(Ed.). Raven Press, New York, 1980, pp. 191-202.
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| Philippic |
| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:21 pm |
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"Peter H Proctor" <drp@drproctor.com> wrote in message
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My little touch with greatness<G
Papers of Peter H. Proctor with Harry B. Demopoulos
[snip]
Impressive! And yet -- no *screen credits*...?!?!
Ya gotta get better *representation*, Dr P!!
I have a couple of industry contacts, if you're interested...
Regards,
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| Peter H Proctor |
| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:11 pm |
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On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 02:21:56 GMT, "Philippic"
<·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·@11Home.com> wrote:
Quote: "Peter H Proctor"
Papers of Peter H. Proctor with Harry B. Demopoulos
[snip]
Impressive! And yet -- no *screen credits*...?!?!
No talent. However, I do want to direct<G>
Roughly three decades after Harry B Demopoulos and his
coworkers showed a likely role for free radicals in stroke, an
antistroke drug that scarfs up such radicals is nearing FDA-approval.
See www.nitrone.com .
In addition to his acting and research careers, Dr
Demopoulus also played a key role in the founding of the Doris Duke
foundation. He was her original executor before "the Butler did it"
and is now a trustee.
Quote: Ya gotta get better *representation*, Dr P!!
I have a couple of industry contacts, if you're interested...
I want to direct !
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| Dr. Zarkov |
| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:45 am |
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"Mack McKinnon" <MckinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com> wrote in
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Quote: They do go on. Bottom line seems to be:
"So, as part of our new brain-maintenance formulation, we provide 2 to 3
grams of choline per day in the form of a tasty drink mix."
Thought they might. Go to the Home page and you'll find it there: 180
pills
for a hundred bucks.
The late Dr. Roy Walford had some comments about Pearson/Shaw in his book,
"Beyond the 120-Day Diet." Without endorsing his comments, either,
someone
might want to read them before getting too serious about Pearson/Shaw.
I always thought that Dr. Walford was a bit harsh in his criticism of
Pearson and Shaw, but there a lot of truth in it--They often seem to lock in
on the evidence supporting their point of view while ignoring or minimizing
the evidence that doesn't.
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| Thomas Carter |
| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:21 pm |
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Hi,
"Dr. Zarkov" <Ming@Mongo.com> wrote in message news:<40ebfeac$0$3087$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>...
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I always thought that Dr. Walford was a bit harsh in his criticism of
Pearson and Shaw, but there a lot of truth in it--They often seem to lock in
on the evidence supporting their point of view while ignoring or minimizing
the evidence that doesn't.
Don't we all, especially when income or social standing is at
stake.
Dr. Walford was a great pioneer of CR, but as a life extensionist he
didn't seem to get it. Compare his results and methodology with that
of a much better modern day scientist, Vic Tanney. And note that the
full extent of Vic's contribution is still unknown.
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| Richard Steven Hack |
| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:52 pm |
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On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:38:19 GMT, "Philippic"
<·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·@11Home.com> wrote:
Quote: "Mack McKinnon" <MckinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com
The late Dr. Roy Walford had some comments about Pearson/Shaw in his book,
"Beyond the 120-Day Diet." Without endorsing his comments, either,
someone might want to read them before getting too serious about Pearson/Shaw.
Did he mention this at all:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094963/fullcredits#writers
Full Cast and Crew for
Dead Pool, The (1988)
Writing credits
Durk Pearson (story) &
Sandy Shakiocus (story) (as Sandy Shaw)
You are aware that Durk is a physicist and he and Sandy worked on the
special effects for Clint's "Firefox" before this, right? And that it
was their promotion of life extension and frequent appearances on the
Merv Griffin Show years ago that brought them in contact with Eastwood
(for whom they crafted various skin remedies) which led to the above.
Durk is no dummy and neither is Sandy,
If anyone has specific criticisms of their work, I'm sure both of them
would be more than happy to discuss it professionally.
--
Richard Steven Hack
"Whatever does not kill me makes me stronger" -
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| Richard Steven Hack |
| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:54 pm |
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:45:54 -0400, "Dr. Zarkov" <Ming@Mongo.com>
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Quote: I always thought that Dr. Walford was a bit harsh in his criticism of
Pearson and Shaw, but there a lot of truth in it--They often seem to lock in
on the evidence supporting their point of view while ignoring or minimizing
the evidence that doesn't.
Well, at one time they were spending $20,000 a year on scientific
journals, IIRC. While such journal subscriptions are expensive, I'd
say this indicates a legitimate interest in the work - and a
willingness to review all the research.
--
Richard Steven Hack
"Whatever does not kill me makes me stronger" -
and YOU have not killed me! |
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| Peter H Proctor |
| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:22 pm |
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 04:54:30 GMT, Richard Steven Hack
<richardstevenhack@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:45:54 -0400, "Dr. Zarkov" <Ming@Mongo.com
wrote:
I always thought that Dr. Walford was a bit harsh in his criticism of
Pearson and Shaw, but there a lot of truth in it--They often seem to lock in
on the evidence supporting their point of view while ignoring or minimizing
the evidence that doesn't.
Well, at one time they were spending $20,000 a year on scientific
journals, IIRC. While such journal subscriptions are expensive, I'd
say this indicates a legitimate interest in the work - and a
willingness to review all the research.
I See Dirk and Sandy at Society for Free Radical Research Meetings..
They seem to know as much about this field as any of us<G>...
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