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| TJ Indianlake... |
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Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
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10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second. |
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| Don Lancaster... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:30 am |
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TJ Indianlake wrote:
[quote:e4186b6c94]Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg Changed:4:44 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
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Their MPG is clearly ZERO unless they figure out how to recycle the
condensate.
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/nrglect2.pdf
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| DanB... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:28 am |
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Don Lancaster wrote:
[quote:63e7cce0e5]TJ Indianlake wrote:
Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg Changed:4:44 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
Their MPG is clearly ZERO unless they figure out how to recycle the
condensate.
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If you have condensate, that is pretty simple. It is bleeding off the
heat to get that condensate that becomes a challenge.
But, you missed the best part. A diagram drawn by a teenager. But you
have to give him points for the novel steam to hydraulic scheme even if
it will never work.
This kid is destined to learn some physics or be the master of the next
water fuel scam... |
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| PV... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:12 pm |
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Don Lancaster <don at (no spam) tinaja.com> writes:
[quote:d10b876d78]TJ Indianlake wrote:
Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg Changed:4:44 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
Their MPG is clearly ZERO unless they figure out how to recycle the
condensate.
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Or maybe they can put the badly photographed and nigh-unreadable
posterboard on the back of a 250MPG 277 HP vehicle. *
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* PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something
like corkscrews. |
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| Don Lancaster... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:07 pm |
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PV wrote:
[quote:2567d6c29c]Don Lancaster <don at (no spam) tinaja.com> writes:
TJ Indianlake wrote:
Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg Changed:4:44 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
Their MPG is clearly ZERO unless they figure out how to recycle the
condensate.
Or maybe they can put the badly photographed and nigh-unreadable
posterboard on the back of a 250MPG 277 HP vehicle. *
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Nope. You would have to increase the horsepower because of the increased
aerodynamic drag.
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Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
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| Bob Eld... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:38 am |
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"TJ Indianlake" <TJindianlake at (no spam) webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9530-4AD7C631-4992 at (no spam) storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net...
[quote:f7654945a0]Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg Changed:4:44 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
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OK, I'll bite. What is the childish drawing supposed to represent? And,
somebody did their math wrong: 10in^3 per second at 650 psi is not even one
HP at 542 ft-lb per second. Check your work before you post such gibberish. |
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| tj Frazir... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:33 am |
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The recycled steam and all the ap parts are not shown.
This is just how a 4 cyclinder water rocket driving a slide vane rotor
works and volume .. |
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| tj Frazir... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:40 am |
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Its running .
Thats a sslide vane rotor with an ineer-am wheel. The vanes re held
into the rotor flush with valve springs untill vanes ride up on the cam
wheel and are pushed out of the rotor to block the water flow without
gap at the top as the block moves if the cam wheel is moved.
10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi at the top of a 400 cubic inch cylinder
full of water will push the water out the bottom .
IF you dont use the rotor and just put a je ski nosel there at 1.2
inch..you have a 700 pound thrust water rocket that will use 10 cubic
inch steam per second .
A steam power jet ski uses 1300 per second.
A steam power water rocket uses 10 per second.
converting the energy cost you 90 % of the energy . |
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| tj Frazir... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:52 am |
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try 500 foot pounds at 500 rpm for about 71 HP.
about 15 rotor revolutions per cyclinder stroke or per second 600 cubic
inch per second.
The exhuast valve opens top o ylinder and the
side flap only opens into the cylinder so water fills the cylinder up
100 % with water.
The valve closed then the steam is injected in 1/50 th second.
The steam forces the water out the bottom flap.
Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
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why is that a bad pic ? its too easy to build one from that pic.
That pic might hurt your head thats all.
1 million miles without a breakdown ..after years of evolution after
this 15 year old pic.
a train can pull your ton 200 mileson a gallon and now your car can do
that better because I put the 60 strokes per minut in the car and it has
13 times the tourk.
slide out 4 inch of vane at 650 psi..2400 foot pounds between road and
wheel. |
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| tj Frazir... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:06 am |
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Lets try that 10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi at the top of a water jug
with 600 cubic inch water in it and a 2 inch hole at the bottom.
double the water volume and steam volume for a 1 second stroke out the
2 inch hole for 1 second even.
Picked up a 600 pound wieght with it a block of conrete 600 bl with
1300 pound thrust 100 feet up in 3 seconds so thats 33 feet per second
770 pounds sent 33 feet in 1 second.
The enrgine you used as a standard is 12000 cubic inch per second and
it wount do shit with just 10 cubic inches .
This is a water rocket not a V8 .
It wount have the losses a V8 has because it dont convert the thrust
into rotation where 95 % is waisted.
put your boat beside the 4 cylinder water rocket without its rotor and
lets race.
The laws of conservation says you cant winn. |
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| tj Frazir... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:12 am |
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The drive shaft conects to the rotor direct.
There is no tranny.
No rods ..no crank,,no 6000 rpm ,,no oil pump.
The lube oil is in the water.
You cant hurt it ..
its 50 HP when you want 50..
and its 500 hp when you want 500.
Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
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No car engine can compete with it.
10 % the fuel ,,more power ..last longer and dont break down ,,is far
cheeper and too simple.
in boat without the slide vane rotor or in a car with it. |
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| tj Frazir... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:21 am |
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so was that 1 HP in a V8 or what ?
10 cubic inch steam will get you farther in the water rocket then in
the V8.
The V8 must convert it to rotation then back to mechanical thrust and
converted it twice.
thats a stupid standard of a HP !
The water rocket wount convert it to rotation and wount loose that
energy.
10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi will send a 5 gal water jug from
colligan out of sight in 5 seconds.
lets see your engine do that |
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| tj Frazir... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:22 am |
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400 MPG at 71 HP.
Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
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drove suv 32 hours at 60 mph on $ 15 of propane |
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| tj Frazir... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:34 am |
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Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
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on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Dont like the pic ? 
Thats the end of the oil age at 10 % th fuel and the electric co
because its 10 %.
Thats so simple to build this pic is all you neaded.
That is a very small power washer pump turned real slow to force water
into a coil tube with a burner under it to keep it steam hot.
A mini doble boiler .
The valvle relay is just a set of clocks so evry second the next
cyclider fires.
The water rocket 4 cyclinder is just what it looks like ,,real simple
and works perfect.
It will work perfect for a lng long time because thats not much there
to go bad.
I can allways just make morre steam and not hurt the engine ..your
car engine will bust long befor this .
I biult the bust out of whale 7 ,,,
your looking at a 15 year old pic.
Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
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not whale 7. |
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| TJ Indianlake... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:30 am |
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Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg
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Try this pic |
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