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| Robert Baer... |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
[quote:12331c0f8d]On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:11:08 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon at (no spam) My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:01:17 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer at (no spam) localnet.com> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:24:21 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer at (no spam) localnet.com> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Does this exist...
http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BallAndSlot.pdf
Ball and _Slot_ as opposed to the usual Ball and Socket.
Low load. Hobby size... maybe 1/4" to 1/2" ball.
...Jim Thompson
What is it about that PDF that makes it hostile to Acrobat?
Robert,
It was created with Acrobat v7.1.0, by scanning directly into
Acrobat... "make PDF from Scanner".
Given all your various symptoms, I think you have something else wrong
other than Acrobat.
Do you have Acrobat, or do you really have Adobe Reader?
Try looking at installed programs... do you have more than one program
that might be trying to read PDF's?
...Jim Thompson
I have the full Acrobat 4.05 for reading and printing (to PDF).
I have seen this problem before, so i installed FoxIt (which read
your PDF correctly).
Acrobat is the default.
v4.05 can't cope with some features from v7.1, though, IIRC, I did
reduce the scan to v4 compatibility before posting.
...Jim Thompson
Try retrieving again...
http://analog-innovations.com/SED/BallAndSlot.pdf
It definitely has been made v4 compatible now.
...Jim Thompson
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Worked very nicely.
With one exception, "upgraded" programs create files that are
incompatible with older versions of the "same" program; it is rare that
a program allows one to create files fit for other versions, as well as
rare that the newer version even reads (some of the) olcer version files.
The exception is PKZIP / Winzip; so far it seems that it makes no
difference in reading or writing (between an old DOS ver 2.04g Feb 1993
and WinZip 8.1 SR-2 2001?).
Compatible across the time spectrum and use spectrum; incredible! |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:45 am |
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:06:11 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer at (no spam) localnet.com>
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[quote:b4386a71eb]Worked very nicely.
With one exception, "upgraded" programs create files that are
incompatible with older versions of the "same" program; it is rare that
a program allows one to create files fit for other versions, as well as
rare that the newer version even reads (some of the) olcer version files.
[/quote:b4386a71eb]
Excel 2007 does a fine job of making backward compatible, as well as
co-compatible workbooks.
Also, if one makes a new, 2k7 file and attempts to open it with 2k3, it
will prompt you for the DL of the compatibility code so that 2k3 can open
2k7 files. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:50 pm |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:45:53 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever at (no spam) InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
[quote:7eb7b46085]On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:06:11 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer at (no spam) localnet.com
wrote:
Worked very nicely.
With one exception, "upgraded" programs create files that are
incompatible with older versions of the "same" program; it is rare that
a program allows one to create files fit for other versions, as well as
rare that the newer version even reads (some of the) olcer version files.
Excel 2007 does a fine job of making backward compatible, as well as
co-compatible workbooks.
Also, if one makes a new, 2k7 file and attempts to open it with 2k3, it
will prompt you for the DL of the compatibility code so that 2k3 can open
2k7 files.
[/quote:7eb7b46085]
Not to mention you can save from Word 2k7 in Word97-2k3 format.
As for Acrobat, I'm using 7 and you can make version 4 compatible
files and considering (free) Acrobat Reader 6 was the last Windows98
version that's a fair amount of backwards compatibility.
I couldn't remember off hand so I pulled out an old Compaq Contura
notebook with WFW 3.11 and the last Acrobat Reader for that was 3. But
it read the posted PDF just fine anyway.
What a blast from the past. 8 meg RAM, 4 bit color... woohoo! and
sound (such as it is) faked by software modulating the beep speaker.
Calmira installed to make it 'look like' (sorta) Windows95. |
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| Archimedes' Lever... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:06 pm |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:50:23 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
[quote:e80d771363]On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:45:53 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever at (no spam) InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:06:11 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer at (no spam) localnet.com
wrote:
Worked very nicely.
With one exception, "upgraded" programs create files that are
incompatible with older versions of the "same" program; it is rare that
a program allows one to create files fit for other versions, as well as
rare that the newer version even reads (some of the) olcer version files.
Excel 2007 does a fine job of making backward compatible, as well as
co-compatible workbooks.
Also, if one makes a new, 2k7 file and attempts to open it with 2k3, it
will prompt you for the DL of the compatibility code so that 2k3 can open
2k7 files.
Not to mention you can save from Word 2k7 in Word97-2k3 format.
[/quote:e80d771363]
As I stated above, it has no problem creating a backward compatible
workbook.
[quote:e80d771363]
As for Acrobat, I'm using 7 and you can make version 4 compatible
files and considering (free) Acrobat Reader 6 was the last Windows98
version that's a fair amount of backwards compatibility.
[/quote:e80d771363]
I am using the latest and greatest, like 9 or 10 or whatever. I do not
wait around like the Win 95 first release Luddite dopes do.
[quote:e80d771363]I couldn't remember off hand so I pulled out an old Compaq Contura
notebook with WFW 3.11 and the last Acrobat Reader for that was 3. But
it read the posted PDF just fine anyway.
[/quote:e80d771363]
WFW 3.11 was a great little ship. I sailed it for years on many a Sea.
[quote:e80d771363]
What a blast from the past. 8 meg RAM, 4 bit color... woohoo! and
sound (such as it is) faked by software modulating the beep speaker.
Calmira installed to make it 'look like' (sorta) Windows95.
[/quote:e80d771363]
I had a 286 the drove a mono card and a 720x640 Hi Res Ball 12 Volt
Green mono CRT for my first box. It started out with a 10MB Tandon
original Full Ht HD and 2MB RAM and no math co-processor. I was lucky to
get it for $200.
I paid nearly $600 for my first 16MB block of RAM for a 386 I had.
I paid nearly $600 for my first SCSI 1GB Full Ht HD, which I referred
to as my "Black Hole" at the time. My how those times have changed.
At least the files are bigger for a reason. The images are higher
resolution  Now, don't go reading into this statement...  |
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| flipper... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:52 am |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:06:42 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever at (no spam) InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
[quote]On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:50:23 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:45:53 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever at (no spam) InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:06:11 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer at (no spam) localnet.com
wrote:
Worked very nicely.
With one exception, "upgraded" programs create files that are
incompatible with older versions of the "same" program; it is rare that
a program allows one to create files fit for other versions, as well as
rare that the newer version even reads (some of the) olcer version files.
Excel 2007 does a fine job of making backward compatible, as well as
co-compatible workbooks.
Also, if one makes a new, 2k7 file and attempts to open it with 2k3, it
will prompt you for the DL of the compatibility code so that 2k3 can open
2k7 files.
Not to mention you can save from Word 2k7 in Word97-2k3 format.
As I stated above, it has no problem creating a backward compatible
workbook.
[/quote]
As you stated above was Excel, not Word.
In reality that doesn't matter because the 'new format' is Open XML
and used for Word, Excel, and PowerPoint but the average user probably
doesn't know nor care about format details so I mentioned it for their
benefit.
On reading 2k7 files with older versions, the compatibility 'code', as
you put it, (MS calls it a 'compatibility pack'), is available for
Office 2000 and up but only if running Windows 2k and up. It's not
supported on the Win9x based systems even though versions up to
OfficeXP (2002) were.
For Save As in the older format, the back to '97 applies to all three
as that was the first year of the then 'new' format used through 2k3.
Or, you can operate natively in 'compatibility' mode also setting that
as the default save.
And there are a host of other compatibility options, such as MS Works
format.
[quote]As for Acrobat, I'm using 7 and you can make version 4 compatible
files and considering (free) Acrobat Reader 6 was the last Windows98
version that's a fair amount of backwards compatibility.
I am using the latest and greatest, like 9 or 10 or whatever. I do not
wait around like the Win 95 first release Luddite dopes do.
[/quote]
Well, goodie for money bags you. These things aren't free, you know,
and my interneten boxen gets the older versions.
The "latest and greatest" is Acrobat 9 (or CS4 if you're using one of
the suites), which I have on the workstation. It goes back to version
4 as well and is what I should have typed instead of 7.
[quote]I couldn't remember off hand so I pulled out an old Compaq Contura
notebook with WFW 3.11 and the last Acrobat Reader for that was 3. But
it read the posted PDF just fine anyway.
WFW 3.11 was a great little ship. I sailed it for years on many a Sea.
[/quote]
Yep. The 'good ole days'.
I keep it on a couple of old machines that aren't useful for much else
as a reminder and I still like my AfterDark Star Trek screen saver.
Somewhere around here I've got my original XT too, and the Atari 800,
and the Sinclair. The Sinclair makes for an amusing paper weight, not
much different than when it was new, but Atari Space Battle is still
fun.
[quote]What a blast from the past. 8 meg RAM, 4 bit color... woohoo! and
sound (such as it is) faked by software modulating the beep speaker.
Calmira installed to make it 'look like' (sorta) Windows95.
I had a 286 the drove a mono card and a 720x640 Hi Res Ball 12 Volt
Green mono CRT for my first box. It started out with a 10MB Tandon
original Full Ht HD and 2MB RAM and no math co-processor. I was lucky to
get it for $200.
[/quote]
My first box was a Nova 2/10 mini-computer with 64k core RAM and 2
1.25Meg pizza platters, one removable and one fixed (just no door on a
second pack), hard drive. I was lucky to pull it out of a dumpster,
including the 6 foot 19 inch rack to mount the thing in. Repaired it
and, voilą, I had a blower driven 1.5kW space heater.
Hacking in a junked Hewlett Packard high speed tape reader wasn't very
difficult but a printer was out of reach, as was any really 'useful'
software (unless you wanted to operate a chemical plant) but the
sucker worked.
[quote]I paid nearly $600 for my first 16MB block of RAM for a 386 I had.
I paid nearly $600 for my first SCSI 1GB Full Ht HD, which I referred
to as my "Black Hole" at the time. My how those times have changed.
[/quote]
Hehe. Yeah. I remember when a 10Meg hard drive was the cat's meow.
[quote]At least the files are bigger for a reason. The images are higher
resolution Now, don't go reading into this statement...
[/quote]
Oh, I'm sure you mean high resolution, false color, stellar mapping |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:53 pm |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:52:45 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
[quote]I am using the latest and greatest, like 9 or 10 or whatever. I do not
wait around like the Win 95 first release Luddite dopes do.
Well, goodie for money bags you. These things aren't free, you know,
and my interneten boxen gets the older versions.
[/quote]
I referred to the reader, which is free.
I create PDFs from within Quark or whatever else I want.
If I wanted the full Adobe, I could get it, no problem.
Our company buys so many seats of so many different softwares that we
have agreements to get home installations so our employees can
telecommute to a degree, if need be.
Office is free, though I had already bought mine.
We get antivirus packages and CAD. It all depends on the individual
needs of each worker.
On a different note, a little helpful rant for all...
Better start thinking about Windows 7 if you currently use XP at your
work, because XP will no longer get security service packs or even small
updates beyond this coming April. Security is a major factor. I can
tell you right now that there are a slew of viruses out there that are
going undetected. You guys all need to belly up to the bar or your
workplaces will end up compromised. Pay now or pay shortly thereafter.
XP will be rendered vulnerable after it is no longer getting updated.
7 is stable out of the box, and has hundreds of software engineers and
computer scientists that are American and DO get paid behind it. WE can
DEMAND that they get their customer service end shit together, but other
than that, it is a VERY stable company. How many of you are glad that
you have/had some MS stock now or at some other time in its history?
Granted, Linux is secure from conception, but mainly only because it is
not what is being used on the mainstream desktops of corporate America.
If it were, you can bet that it too would be found to have
vulnerabilities, and more would be created, as you cannot digress from
the current "standard of living" by cutting back on flash or other
currently compromised multimedia methods.
Don't fool yourselves, folks, America is the primary target. They are
after you at work, and they are after you personally right where you are
sitting now. Y'ALL need to wake the fuck up.
Instead of pissing all over Windows because Bill was so successful, you
should all be buying it, because our economy needs it, and you need to be
secure at home, and don't think for a moment that you are not. If you
are compromised, then so are ANY of your encrypted volumes, etc. that you
THINK are safe. If you are 'IN' THEY are IN. All these compromises add
up to an eroded GNP, and that goes for all countries, so WISE UP, folks!
Trust me, you anarchists are brainless twits, while you sit there with
OUR technology in front of you, which you could never maintain or evolve
without us... It would never work. Why would you want that for your
kids, and there kids, you stupid fucks? |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:01 pm |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:52:45 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
[quote]Yep. The 'good ole days'.
I keep it on a couple of old machines that aren't useful for much else
as a reminder and I still like my AfterDark Star Trek screen saver.
Somewhere around here I've got my original XT too, and the Atari 800,
and the Sinclair. The Sinclair makes for an amusing paper weight, not
much different than when it was new, but Atari Space Battle is still
fun.
[/quote]
You have to DL Mame.
Then, you need to DL the now 130 GB + ROM archive of every upright
video game you ever saw, including the now working Laser Disc based
coin-ops. You can get away with about a 35Gb archive that gets you about
7200 games and the sound files for certain games that had cassette player
inside them.
The neat part is that it emulates nearly every cpu you ever saw, used,
worked with, etc, etc, etc, and they are ALL in separate code modules for
easy examination and learning from. Most popular upright coin-op cpu as
I recall was the Z80.
http://www.mameui.info/#
That is the Windows versions front end. You can compile your own under
Linux or any other platform if you know your way around makefiles.
http://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?page_id=163
You need ROMs too, and those are on binary newsgroups like:
alt.binaries.emulators.mame
and you can find torrents of entire archives to get started with, which
is good if it is well seeded. A good example:
http://www.mininova.org/search/mame/size |
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| Archimedes' Lever... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:15 pm |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:52:45 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
[quote]
I had a 286 the drove a mono card and a 720x640 Hi Res Ball 12 Volt
Green mono CRT for my first box. It started out with a 10MB Tandon
original Full Ht HD and 2MB RAM and no math co-processor. I was lucky to
get it for $200.
My first box was a Nova 2/10 mini-computer with 64k core RAM and 2
1.25Meg pizza platters, one removable and one fixed (just no door on a
second pack), hard drive. I was lucky to pull it out of a dumpster,
including the 6 foot 19 inch rack to mount the thing in. Repaired it
and, voilą, I had a blower driven 1.5kW space heater.
[/quote]
Hahahah... Two birds, one stone from my pov. That monitor on my first
one was still in the cardboard box it got shipped in, and I still have it
that way. I only needed to hook up one com cable, and one 12V source.
I wonder if DVI has signals that could drive it as a second monitor...
heheh that would be cool.
[quote]
Hacking in a junked Hewlett Packard high speed tape reader wasn't very
difficult but a printer was out of reach, as was any really 'useful'
software (unless you wanted to operate a chemical plant) but the
sucker worked.
[/quote]
That is pretty neat. Pulling partially loaded racks out of dumpsters
must be fun too. Just happened to have your truck with you, eh?
[quote]I paid nearly $600 for my first 16MB block of RAM for a 386 I had.
I paid nearly $600 for my first SCSI 1GB Full Ht HD, which I referred
to as my "Black Hole" at the time. My how those times have changed.
Hehe. Yeah. I remember when a 10Meg hard drive was the cat's meow.
[/quote]
I have a 10MB Tandon, then the 16MB, then the zone sectored format that
bumped it to 22MB IIRC,then the 32MB zone sectored
[quote]At least the files are bigger for a reason. The images are higher
resolution Now, don't go reading into this statement... ;-)
Oh, I'm sure you mean high resolution, false color, stellar mapping
[/quote]
No... Rusty and Edie's :-P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusty_n_Edie%27s_BBS
I actually remember BBS's pretty fondly.
Yes, I love the Hubble stuff.
I also love fractals. I had "FracTools" back when everyone was at 16
color EGA, then VGA. It was the bee's knees. It had advantages over the
current apps too, so I am going to try and revive it inside of a DOSBox
session or such. It had like a Gem (OS) front end or something. Most
current GUIs puke on it when I try to run it. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:45 pm |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:53:16 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever at (no spam) InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:52:45 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
I am using the latest and greatest, like 9 or 10 or whatever. I do not
wait around like the Win 95 first release Luddite dopes do.
Well, goodie for money bags you. These things aren't free, you know,
and my interneten boxen gets the older versions.
I referred to the reader, which is free.
[/quote]
Then you referred to the wrong thing because the topic was about
Baer's claim that "'upgraded' programs create files that are
incompatible with older versions of the 'same' program; it is rare
that a program allows one to create files fit for other versions."
The operative word is "create" and Acrobat Reader doesn't "create" PDF
files.
[quote]
I create PDFs from within Quark or whatever else I want.
[/quote]
If you wish to make some statement about Quark's backward
compatibility with previous versions then be my guest.
[quote]If I wanted the full Adobe, I could get it, no problem.
Our company buys so many seats of so many different softwares that we
have agreements to get home installations so our employees can
telecommute to a degree, if need be.
Office is free, though I had already bought mine.
We get antivirus packages and CAD. It all depends on the individual
needs of each worker.
On a different note, a little helpful rant for all...
Better start thinking about Windows 7 if you currently use XP at your
work, because XP will no longer get security service packs or even small
updates beyond this coming April. Security is a major factor. I can
tell you right now that there are a slew of viruses out there that are
going undetected. You guys all need to belly up to the bar or your
workplaces will end up compromised. Pay now or pay shortly thereafter.
XP will be rendered vulnerable after it is no longer getting updated.
7 is stable out of the box, and has hundreds of software engineers and
computer scientists that are American and DO get paid behind it. WE can
DEMAND that they get their customer service end shit together, but other
than that, it is a VERY stable company. How many of you are glad that
you have/had some MS stock now or at some other time in its history?
Granted, Linux is secure from conception, but mainly only because it is
not what is being used on the mainstream desktops of corporate America.
If it were, you can bet that it too would be found to have
vulnerabilities, and more would be created, as you cannot digress from
the current "standard of living" by cutting back on flash or other
currently compromised multimedia methods.
Don't fool yourselves, folks, America is the primary target. They are
after you at work, and they are after you personally right where you are
sitting now. Y'ALL need to wake the fuck up.
Instead of pissing all over Windows because Bill was so successful, you
should all be buying it, because our economy needs it, and you need to be
secure at home, and don't think for a moment that you are not. If you
are compromised, then so are ANY of your encrypted volumes, etc. that you
THINK are safe. If you are 'IN' THEY are IN. All these compromises add
up to an eroded GNP, and that goes for all countries, so WISE UP, folks!
Trust me, you anarchists are brainless twits, while you sit there with
OUR technology in front of you, which you could never maintain or evolve
without us... It would never work. Why would you want that for your
kids, and there kids, you stupid fucks?[/quote] |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:51 pm |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:01:33 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever at (no spam) InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:52:45 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
Yep. The 'good ole days'.
I keep it on a couple of old machines that aren't useful for much else
as a reminder and I still like my AfterDark Star Trek screen saver.
Somewhere around here I've got my original XT too, and the Atari 800,
and the Sinclair. The Sinclair makes for an amusing paper weight, not
much different than when it was new, but Atari Space Battle is still
fun.
You have to DL Mame.
[/quote]
Thanks.
Yes, I know about Mame but I'm not much of a gamer.
Good idea for someone who is, though.
[quote]
Then, you need to DL the now 130 GB + ROM archive of every upright
video game you ever saw, including the now working Laser Disc based
coin-ops. You can get away with about a 35Gb archive that gets you about
7200 games and the sound files for certain games that had cassette player
inside them.
The neat part is that it emulates nearly every cpu you ever saw, used,
worked with, etc, etc, etc, and they are ALL in separate code modules for
easy examination and learning from. Most popular upright coin-op cpu as
I recall was the Z80.
http://www.mameui.info/#
That is the Windows versions front end. You can compile your own under
Linux or any other platform if you know your way around makefiles.
http://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?page_id=163
You need ROMs too, and those are on binary newsgroups like:
alt.binaries.emulators.mame
and you can find torrents of entire archives to get started with, which
is good if it is well seeded. A good example:
http://www.mininova.org/search/mame/size[/quote] |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:31 pm |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:15:23 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever at (no spam) InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:52:45 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
I had a 286 the drove a mono card and a 720x640 Hi Res Ball 12 Volt
Green mono CRT for my first box. It started out with a 10MB Tandon
original Full Ht HD and 2MB RAM and no math co-processor. I was lucky to
get it for $200.
My first box was a Nova 2/10 mini-computer with 64k core RAM and 2
1.25Meg pizza platters, one removable and one fixed (just no door on a
second pack), hard drive. I was lucky to pull it out of a dumpster,
including the 6 foot 19 inch rack to mount the thing in. Repaired it
and, voilą, I had a blower driven 1.5kW space heater.
Hahahah... Two birds, one stone from my pov.
[/quote]
Being preoccupied with the excitement of having acquired the thing it
didn't dawn on me at first, till I wondered why it was getting so damn
hot in the room. hehe.
[quote]That monitor on my first
one was still in the cardboard box it got shipped in, and I still have it
that way. I only needed to hook up one com cable, and one 12V source.
I wonder if DVI has signals that could drive it as a second monitor...
heheh that would be cool.
[/quote]
I dunno but a lot of those were sync on green and DVI analog is
separate sync. Could make a combiner, I suppose, but that's a bit of
work for not much return.
[quote]Hacking in a junked Hewlett Packard high speed tape reader wasn't very
difficult but a printer was out of reach, as was any really 'useful'
software (unless you wanted to operate a chemical plant) but the
sucker worked.
That is pretty neat. Pulling partially loaded racks out of dumpsters
must be fun too. Just happened to have your truck with you, eh?
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Hehe. No, I didn't, and don't, own a truck. I had to locate a
co-worker with one.
I caught wind the thing was going to be tossed out so I 'coordinated'
with the disposal unit on a time they could place it in the dumpster
for me to pick right back out. But it had to go in first to be
'officially' trashed.
[quote]I paid nearly $600 for my first 16MB block of RAM for a 386 I had.
I paid nearly $600 for my first SCSI 1GB Full Ht HD, which I referred
to as my "Black Hole" at the time. My how those times have changed.
Hehe. Yeah. I remember when a 10Meg hard drive was the cat's meow.
I have a 10MB Tandon, then the 16MB, then the zone sectored format that
bumped it to 22MB IIRC,then the 32MB zone sectored
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I've got some 10 meggers for my PDP-11 but I don't remember the brand.
[quote]
At least the files are bigger for a reason. The images are higher
resolution Now, don't go reading into this statement... ;-)
Oh, I'm sure you mean high resolution, false color, stellar mapping ;)
No... Rusty and Edie's :-P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusty_n_Edie%27s_BBS
I actually remember BBS's pretty fondly.
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Well, mine was certainly nothing like that one. It ran on an Atari
800.
[quote]Yes, I love the Hubble stuff.
I also love fractals. I had "FracTools" back when everyone was at 16
color EGA, then VGA. It was the bee's knees. It had advantages over the
current apps too, so I am going to try and revive it inside of a DOSBox
session or such. It had like a Gem (OS) front end or something. Most
current GUIs puke on it when I try to run it.
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Hmm. Well, you can download the 8086 GEM stuff.
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6148/gem.html |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:45:19 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
[quote]it is rare
that a program allows one to create files fit for other versions."
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:45:19 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
[quote]If you wish to make some statement about Quark's backward
compatibility with previous versions then be my guest.
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You're an idiot. I am not your guest, however, I do not need your
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On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:04:59 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever at (no spam) InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:45:19 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
it is rare
that a program allows one to create files fit for other versions."
Bullshit. It is common with big name applications.
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I didn't say it. See the ending " mark?
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On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:06:23 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever at (no spam) InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:45:19 -0500, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
If you wish to make some statement about Quark's backward
compatibility with previous versions then be my guest.
You're an idiot. I am not your guest, however, I do not need your
permission to post whatever I want about whatever I want.
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Then don't be my guest. |
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