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| Paul... |
 Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:08 pm |
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I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance..... |
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| Paul... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:19 pm |
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On Oct 12, 5:08 pm, Paul <quiller... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:e8d512790f]I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....
[/quote:e8d512790f]
What do you think about this stuff?
http://www.gumsmart.co.uk/maintenance/mouthwash.shtml |
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| Paul... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:13 am |
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On Oct 13, 7:22 am, Dartos <tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:
[quote:a96e10f6fd]Do you smoke?
Has anyone determined if you might have a night time
clenching habit?
It isn't likely to be the toothbrush.
JMO,
D
Paul wrote:
I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
[/quote:a96e10f6fd]
I do not smoke.
I do clench occassionally, but not often. |
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| Paul... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:18 am |
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On Oct 13, 6:46 am, Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldm... at (no spam) dentaltwins.com>
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[quote:fd4611d105]Paul wrote:
I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....
Any brush abused can encourage recession. Have your dentist or
hygienist show you in the office how to use the sonicare correctly.
Clenching, or a poorly fit nightguard can also contribute to recession.
These should be assessed at your dental office.
In general, a good diet for overall health is a good diet for gums.
Some people advocate CoQ10, but I haven't seen any controlled studies to
convince me that it helps.
Steve- Hide quoted text -
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[/quote:fd4611d105]
Yes, the nightguard my dentist made is a bit of a tight fit.
I may
get an over the counter one at Walgreen's (the ones that you put in
hot
water to form), just to see if it fits and works better.
How much of this recession is due to genetics?
And i believe my lower jaw grew out a bit longer than my
orthodontist
had planned, so that i have a bit of an under-bite. This supposedly
may also be part of the problem. |
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| Steven Bornfeld... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:46 am |
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Paul wrote:
[quote:292782982f]I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....
[/quote:292782982f]
Any brush abused can encourage recession. Have your dentist or
hygienist show you in the office how to use the sonicare correctly.
Clenching, or a poorly fit nightguard can also contribute to recession.
These should be assessed at your dental office.
In general, a good diet for overall health is a good diet for gums.
Some people advocate CoQ10, but I haven't seen any controlled studies to
convince me that it helps.
Steve |
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| Steven Bornfeld... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:47 am |
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Paul wrote:
[quote:bcf03c08b4]On Oct 12, 5:08 pm, Paul <quiller... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....
What do you think about this stuff?
http://www.gumsmart.co.uk/maintenance/mouthwash.shtml
[/quote:bcf03c08b4]
It doesn't state the concentration of chlorhexidene. You should know
that chlorhexidene rinses can increase staining and cause taste
alteration, esp. with long-term use.
Steve |
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| Dartos... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:22 am |
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Do you smoke?
Has anyone determined if you might have a night time
clenching habit?
It isn't likely to be the toothbrush.
JMO,
D
Paul wrote:
[quote:f39db72d04]I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....[/quote:f39db72d04] |
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| Steven Bornfeld... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:27 pm |
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Paul wrote:
[quote:05725a6947]Yes, the nightguard my dentist made is a bit of a tight fit.
I may
get an over the counter one at Walgreen's (the ones that you put in
hot
water to form), just to see if it fits and works better.
[/quote:05725a6947]
Not likely a stock nightguard will fit as well as a custom-made one.
Recommend you have your dentist check your current nightguard for
pressure spots on your gum.
[quote:05725a6947]
How much of this recession is due to genetics?
[/quote:05725a6947]
Unknown.
[quote:05725a6947]
And i believe my lower jaw grew out a bit longer than my
orthodontist
had planned, so that i have a bit of an under-bite. This supposedly
may also be part of the problem.
[/quote:05725a6947]
Anything's possible, but hard to see how from where I sit.
Steve |
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| Amatus Cremona... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:14 pm |
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NTI
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Amatus Cremona
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"Paul" <quiller123 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:afce9a16-6094-413b-9942-73e97984304e at (no spam) 13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
[quote:b54921297f]I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....[/quote:b54921297f] |
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| Amatus Cremona... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:15 pm |
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Abfraction. Best prevented by an NTI
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"Paul" <quiller123 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7cfd43f3-4b61-4029-85a2-1a5118c2e6c0 at (no spam) j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 13, 7:22 am, Dartos <tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:
[quote:be879494e6]Do you smoke?
Has anyone determined if you might have a night time
clenching habit?
It isn't likely to be the toothbrush.
JMO,
D
Paul wrote:
I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
[/quote:be879494e6]
I do not smoke.
I do clench occassionally, but not often. |
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| Paul... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:25 pm |
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On Oct 13, 5:15 pm, "Amatus Cremona" <Nic... at (no spam) sottovoce.com> wrote:
[quote:7ad33c11c4]Abfraction. Best prevented by an NTI
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Amatus Cremona
;;;;;;"Paul" <quiller... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7cfd43f3-4b61-4029-85a2-1a5118c2e6c0 at (no spam) j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 13, 7:22 am, Dartos <tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:
Do you smoke?
Has anyone determined if you might have a night time
clenching habit?
It isn't likely to be the toothbrush.
JMO,
D
Paul wrote:
I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I do not smoke.
I do clench occassionally, but not often.
[/quote:7ad33c11c4]
My dentist has never mentioned "abfraction", but it looks
like a related problem. My gums are receeding, but the enamel
underneath looks good.
But I'm intrigued by the NTI appliance.....it looks more
comfortable
than the night guard my dentist made.....where can i get one?
Does it prevent grinding better than a full mouth appliance???? |
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| Dartos... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:53 am |
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I've been using them for about 10 years. Yes, they are the best
design yet to come down the pike.
AC was instrumental in getting me to try one since I was quite
skeptical about them.
I don't think a day goes by in my practice where there isn't a
patient dealing with clenching problems of one kind or another.
I am a firm believer that 'clenchers' spend a lot more time in
the dental office than 'non-clenchers'. They fracture teeth,
destroy fillngs, have more sensitivity issues, present with
headaches, ear pain, and jaw pain. This leads to more restorative
work, more crowns, more root canals, and even broken dentures
if the teeth are ultimately lost.
BTW, if there is any measurable recession, there is no enamel on
that exposed root surface. Some patients have recession and little
or no problem with abfraction, while some patients have little
recession and major abfractions. It all depends upon the intensity,
duration, and angulation of the clenching forces. Add in the
shape of the teeth and relating structures as well.
JME,
D
Paul wrote:
[quote:390a2ac956]On Oct 13, 5:15 pm, "Amatus Cremona" <Nic... at (no spam) sottovoce.com> wrote:
Abfraction. Best prevented by an NTI
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Amatus Cremona
;;;;;;"Paul" <quiller... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7cfd43f3-4b61-4029-85a2-1a5118c2e6c0 at (no spam) j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 13, 7:22 am, Dartos <tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:
Do you smoke?
Has anyone determined if you might have a night time
clenching habit?
It isn't likely to be the toothbrush.
JMO,
D
Paul wrote:
I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I do not smoke.
I do clench occassionally, but not often.
My dentist has never mentioned "abfraction", but it looks
like a related problem. My gums are receeding, but the enamel
underneath looks good.
But I'm intrigued by the NTI appliance.....it looks more
comfortable
than the night guard my dentist made.....where can i get one?
Does it prevent grinding better than a full mouth appliance????
[/quote:390a2ac956] |
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| Paul... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:55 pm |
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On Oct 14, 8:53 am, Dartos <tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:
[quote:6f9db2b7f8]I've been using them for about 10 years. Yes, they are the best
design yet to come down the pike.
AC was instrumental in getting me to try one since I was quite
skeptical about them.
I don't think a day goes by in my practice where there isn't a
patient dealing with clenching problems of one kind or another.
I am a firm believer that 'clenchers' spend a lot more time in
the dental office than 'non-clenchers'. They fracture teeth,
destroy fillngs, have more sensitivity issues, present with
headaches, ear pain, and jaw pain. This leads to more restorative
work, more crowns, more root canals, and even broken dentures
if the teeth are ultimately lost.
BTW, if there is any measurable recession, there is no enamel on
that exposed root surface. Some patients have recession and little
or no problem with abfraction, while some patients have little
recession and major abfractions. It all depends upon the intensity,
duration, and angulation of the clenching forces. Add in the
shape of the teeth and relating structures as well.
JME,
D
Paul wrote:
On Oct 13, 5:15 pm, "Amatus Cremona" <Nic... at (no spam) sottovoce.com> wrote:
Abfraction. Best prevented by an NTI
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Amatus Cremona
;;;;;;"Paul" <quiller... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7cfd43f3-4b61-4029-85a2-1a5118c2e6c0 at (no spam) j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com....
On Oct 13, 7:22 am, Dartos <tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:
Do you smoke?
Has anyone determined if you might have a night time
clenching habit?
It isn't likely to be the toothbrush.
JMO,
D
Paul wrote:
I've had gum recession for quite a few years now, and I thought that
the Sonicare
was improving my gums at first, but recently, i have noticed that my
gums are
continuing to receed a bit.
The dental assistant who cleans my teeth has warned my to use the
Sonicare very
gently, and not to press to hard with it, as it may wear the gums
away. But another
assistant told me that the Sonicare is very gentle.
I have worn a mouth guard, but I don't wear it all the time, as it's a
bit tight and
uncomfortable. But i don't believe i'm grinding my teeth at night
too often, as i
can usually tell in the morning, due to the nibbling on the edges of
my tongue.
Are there any vitamins or diet considerations for preventing or
stopping gum recession?
I floss religiously every night.....
Thanks in advance.....- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I do not smoke.
I do clench occassionally, but not often.
My dentist has never mentioned "abfraction", but it looks
like a related problem. My gums are receeding, but the enamel
underneath looks good.
But I'm intrigued by the NTI appliance.....it looks more
comfortable
than the night guard my dentist made.....where can i get one?
Does it prevent grinding better than a full mouth appliance????
[/quote:6f9db2b7f8]
Ok, i've made an appointment to see if i am a good candidate
for this NTI appliance.
Can someone who has used this device give me some more
input on its effectiveness in terms of stopping gum recession?
The nurse at the dental office said that most people only
need the lower appliance, and fewer need the upper piece, and
some people need both. It must depend on if you have an
over or under bite, obviously.
But a big factor is that it's only attached to the front teeth,
and so should be much more comfortable to wear......which
means people should actually use it more than a regular
mouth guard. |
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