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| Michael A. Terrell... |
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Joerg wrote:
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
-- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Never seen that one, or can't remember. Is it a good movie?
You would remember it, every time you hear 'Dueling Banjos' ;-)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068473/
Oh, I think Keith is right, SWMBO would not like that one and I'd have
to watch it alone 
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If she would let you watch it. :)
[quote]Watch it, and you may never feel safe in the woods, again. :)
Got to carry a rod there, maybe ... ?
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Or a M-16
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| Michael A. Terrell... |
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JosephKK wrote:
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:04:57 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:32:08 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
krw wrote:
Most use heat pumps year round here. We haven't had the house open
more than a few days so far this fall. It was quite warm late this
fall and it's been raining since. Last year was beautiful this time
of year. This year, not so much.
I've only had one day cool enough to open all the doors and windows
this fall.
We had a few days this summer warm enough to open the doors and
windows.
John
I'm waiting for winter so I can fix the mess made by the ID10Ts who
installed the central air when my dad was staying here. They set the pad
on a tree stump that has rotted, so it is leaning about 25 degrees away
from the house. It is a package unit, so I have to remove the ductwork,
wiring and drain pipe, then move it to the garage. Then I have to set
forms and pour about 25, 90 pound bags of Quickcrete. I didn't want the
damn thing, but after they cut all the holes in the foundation and
floors, I'm stuck with it. I have never used it, in the ten years I've
lived here. I just air condition the rooms I'm using, then open the
doors to those rooms to cool the rest of the house at night.
You may be interested in some of the new stuff i am seeing for small
commercial buildings. Per room localized heating and cooling. One
outdoor unit and up to 4 indoor (ceiling mounted) indoor units.
Panasonic is one of the brands.
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I have a flat roof with no space for ductwork. i have window
airconditioners to cool individual rooms.
I have to remove the package unit whether I put it back, or not. The
plastic pad is now sitting on the pipe running from the house, to the
septic tank.
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| Michael A. Terrell... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:11 pm |
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JosephKK wrote:
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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:28:51 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Bet of the week: Corzine will be returned to the NJ governorship...
aided by effective Democrat/Acorn/Obama voter fraud... smart
Joiseyites should learn to flee as well.
They already have. Both of them.
Damn, and i thought there was three of them. Oh well.
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There were. The other went insane and voted for Obama. :(
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| Fred Abse... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:33 pm |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:05:33 +0000, ChrisQ wrote:
[quote]Joerg wrote:
Doesn't allow any serious zoom levels but it sure looks lonesome out
there. The question is, just like it always was in Ireland: How far is
it from there to the next pub? Is there at least one in Bixter?
Not sure about a pub, but there was at least a general store and post
office at Bixter. iirc, you pass it every time you drive into Lerwick,
which is the only place on the island you could consider a real town.
Historically, Shetland (Zetland) was not part of the uk mainland and was
more viking territory, hence the Old Norse names everywhere. For this and
other reasons, you should never call a Shetlander "Scottish"  .
It is pretty desolate out there though. The only thing you hear when you
wake up in the morning is the wind and the sheep, though it can be very
silent as well. Great place to be if you are into stuff like meditation.
Ken eventually had a house built at Bridge of Walls, where he still is
with family, but have never seen it and haven't been back there since
1975...
Regards,
Chris
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It's just something I spotted while searching for your original
coordinates.
Try:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=60.2631,-1.407736&spn=0.1,0.1&t=m&q=60.2631,-1.407736
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is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
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| John Larkin... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:34 pm |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:39:02 -0800, Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid>
wrote:
[quote]John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:08:32 -0700, Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:48:21 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:
[...]
Jobs? The current health care bill penalizes employers who don't
provide government-approved health care. So, when you make it a
greater and greater pain to employ people, the easy, obvious, and only
solution is to outsource, to export jobs, to hire fewer workers. So
of course there'll be fewer jobs. I, personally, will create fewer
jobs. I guarantee it.
I'll probably hold the line at about 20 employees and do more
outsourcing and contracting. ...
When they go through with the net receipts tax thing in CA where
salaries are supposedly non-deductible the others will do exactly the
same.
There are idiots claiming that a 5% net receipts tax is no more
burdensome than a 10% tax on profits. 5 is smaller than 10, don't you
see?
Sad :-(
Just imagine what that would do to the restaurant business alone. As it
is right now I am not sure that our Japanese and Thai places around here
will make it. That source tax would potentially push a lot of those over
the cliff.
[/quote]
For a restaurant, it's just sales tax; they charge about 8% around
here already. All restaurants pay it, and people don't order meals
from Oregon, so it's not a competitive issue as much as it just makes
people dine out a little less.
I suppose some people on the Nevada border cross the line to eat, or
order pizza from over the line.
But for companies that sell stuff, and have out-of-state competition,
a gross receipts tax could really hurt. It's a job killer. We pay
about 10% tax on a profit of 5%. A 5% gross receipts tax would be a
10x increase.
I do like the idea of taxing services as well as stuff, since more and
more of our economy is services, and the competition for services is
mostly local. Just adding the existing sales tax to services would
help the state deficit problem a lot.
John |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:57 pm |
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On Nov 2, 5:22 pm, ChrisQ <m... at (no spam) devnull.com> wrote:
[quote]Jim Thompson wrote:
Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective ;-)
My sentiment as well, but someone has to run run the country and try to
balance the budgets.
[/quote]
You meant "unbalance," right?
[quote]It would help the west if we all stopped exporting
jobs to China, but you can blame global multinationals for that, who
have no interest other than shareholder value. We all want free market
economics, but business is now too powerfull for the good of nations.
Finding the right balance is not a job I would want.
But heck, what would I know, being in europe ?...
[/quote]
Businesses powerful? Businesses are lucky to make 10%. So if you try
to take an extra 10%, they leave (or die). Outsourcing is just
capital fleeing oppression.
It's a truism, though, that the more government tries to run business,
the unholier the alliance between the two becomes.
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| Joerg... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:32 pm |
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John Larkin wrote:
[quote]On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:39:02 -0800, Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:08:32 -0700, Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:48:21 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:
[...]
Jobs? The current health care bill penalizes employers who don't
provide government-approved health care. So, when you make it a
greater and greater pain to employ people, the easy, obvious, and only
solution is to outsource, to export jobs, to hire fewer workers. So
of course there'll be fewer jobs. I, personally, will create fewer
jobs. I guarantee it.
I'll probably hold the line at about 20 employees and do more
outsourcing and contracting. ...
When they go through with the net receipts tax thing in CA where
salaries are supposedly non-deductible the others will do exactly the
same.
There are idiots claiming that a 5% net receipts tax is no more
burdensome than a 10% tax on profits. 5 is smaller than 10, don't you
see?
Sad :-(
Just imagine what that would do to the restaurant business alone. As it
is right now I am not sure that our Japanese and Thai places around here
will make it. That source tax would potentially push a lot of those over
the cliff.
For a restaurant, it's just sales tax; they charge about 8% around
here already. All restaurants pay it, and people don't order meals
from Oregon, so it's not a competitive issue as much as it just makes
people dine out a little less.
[/quote]
And that's just the problem we already have. When I sit in a restaurant
with my wife and some friends on a Saturday night and there's maybe five
tables occupied that somehow tells me that a drop to four tables could
already be the end.
[quote]I suppose some people on the Nevada border cross the line to eat, or
order pizza from over the line.
But for companies that sell stuff, and have out-of-state competition,
a gross receipts tax could really hurt. It's a job killer. We pay
about 10% tax on a profit of 5%. A 5% gross receipts tax would be a
10x increase.
[/quote]
Which the guys running a similar business in Nevada do not have to pay.
[quote]I do like the idea of taxing services as well as stuff, since more and
more of our economy is services, and the competition for services is
mostly local. ...
[/quote]
Nope. I could order my custom stationery in Reno if I wanted to. Or send
my watch to a repair place in Tonopah. And when the dentist would have
to slap 8.5% sales tax on a $1500 root canal & crown job people sure as
hell would drive up to Minden or someplace to get it done.
Just adding the existing sales tax to services would
[quote]help the state deficit problem a lot.
[/quote]
I am squarely opposed to that. No new taxes. Many services run more than
state-wide. It would simply increase the cost of doing business in
California by another x percent.
We already must have a huge underground economy going on and that would
make it much worse. When I bought some PVC at a HW store the guy in
front of me had a large amount of building & plumbing materials on his
cart. Calloused hands, looked like a guy who does this for a living. The
tab came to several hundred bucks, seemed like a bathroom remodel. He
paid the entire tab in hard cash, with $20 and $50 bills, and did not
request a bill with any of his ID on there.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
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| Jim Thompson... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:35 pm |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:34:00 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
[quote]On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:39:02 -0800, Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:08:32 -0700, Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:48:21 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:
[...]
Jobs? The current health care bill penalizes employers who don't
provide government-approved health care. So, when you make it a
greater and greater pain to employ people, the easy, obvious, and only
solution is to outsource, to export jobs, to hire fewer workers. So
of course there'll be fewer jobs. I, personally, will create fewer
jobs. I guarantee it.
I'll probably hold the line at about 20 employees and do more
outsourcing and contracting. ...
When they go through with the net receipts tax thing in CA where
salaries are supposedly non-deductible the others will do exactly the
same.
There are idiots claiming that a 5% net receipts tax is no more
burdensome than a 10% tax on profits. 5 is smaller than 10, don't you
see?
Sad :-(
Just imagine what that would do to the restaurant business alone. As it
is right now I am not sure that our Japanese and Thai places around here
will make it. That source tax would potentially push a lot of those over
the cliff.
For a restaurant, it's just sales tax; they charge about 8% around
here already. All restaurants pay it, and people don't order meals
from Oregon, so it's not a competitive issue as much as it just makes
people dine out a little less.
I suppose some people on the Nevada border cross the line to eat, or
order pizza from over the line.
But for companies that sell stuff, and have out-of-state competition,
a gross receipts tax could really hurt. It's a job killer. We pay
about 10% tax on a profit of 5%. A 5% gross receipts tax would be a
10x increase.
I do like the idea of taxing services as well as stuff, since more and
more of our economy is services, and the competition for services is
mostly local. Just adding the existing sales tax to services would
help the state deficit problem a lot.
John
[/quote]
Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective
...Jim Thompson
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:22 pm |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
[quote]
Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective
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My sentiment as well, but someone has to run run the country and try to
balance the budgets. It would help the west if we all stopped exporting
jobs to China, but you can blame global multinationals for that, who
have no interest other than shareholder value. We all want free market
economics, but business is now too powerfull for the good of nations.
Finding the right balance is not a job I would want.
But heck, what would I know, being in europe ?...
Regards,
Chris |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:26 pm |
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Fred Abse wrote:
[quote]On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:05:33 +0000, ChrisQ wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Doesn't allow any serious zoom levels but it sure looks lonesome out
there. The question is, just like it always was in Ireland: How far is
it from there to the next pub? Is there at least one in Bixter?
Not sure about a pub, but there was at least a general store and post
office at Bixter. iirc, you pass it every time you drive into Lerwick,
which is the only place on the island you could consider a real town.
Historically, Shetland (Zetland) was not part of the uk mainland and was
more viking territory, hence the Old Norse names everywhere. For this and
other reasons, you should never call a Shetlander "Scottish" .
It is pretty desolate out there though. The only thing you hear when you
wake up in the morning is the wind and the sheep, though it can be very
silent as well. Great place to be if you are into stuff like meditation.
Ken eventually had a house built at Bridge of Walls, where he still is
with family, but have never seen it and haven't been back there since
1975...
Regards,
Chris
It's just something I spotted while searching for your original
coordinates.
Try:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=60.2631,-1.407736&spn=0.1,0.1&t=m&q=60.2631,-1.407736
[/quote]
Yeah, I saw that posted to Joerg. Very clever, just like the schoolboys
that look for all the interesting words in the dictionary.
What else have you found ?...
Regards,
Chris |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:28 pm |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:22:31 +0000, ChrisQ <meru at (no spam) devnull.com> wrote:
[quote]Jim Thompson wrote:
Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective
My sentiment as well, but someone has to run run the country and try to
balance the budgets. It would help the west if we all stopped exporting
jobs to China, but you can blame global multinationals for that, who
have no interest other than shareholder value. We all want free market
economics, but business is now too powerfull for the good of nations.
Finding the right balance is not a job I would want.
But heck, what would I know, being in europe ?...
Regards,
Chris
[/quote]
ALL of my current business is in the South Pacific.. My main concern
now is how to shelter that income from Obamanation taxation.
...Jim Thompson
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On Nov 2, 9:46 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar... at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
[quote]Pelosi is stupid and evil. She practices the politics of hate. I think
that Obama is mostly stupid and remarkably passive.
[/quote]
A succinct illustration of the President's stimulus fallacy:
http://www.economistblog.com/2009/11/02/jobs-saved-what-about-the-jobs-destroyed/
Mr. Obama here, in today's meeting with his Board of Job Destruction
Ministers, looks nervous, blinking furiously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EtUq_ejr5g
If you can make it through three minutes, you'll hear him say rather
plaintively "It's also gonna require that we look at new models for
where future job growth is gonna come from." IOW, he knows his
stimulus flopped.
He sounds frightened & lost. He's way over his head, and knows it.
And he has a horrible feeling that things aren't going well.
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:22:31 +0000, ChrisQ wrote:
[quote]Jim Thompson wrote:
Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective
My sentiment as well, but someone has to run run the country and try to
balance the budgets.
[/quote]
Then elect representatives who are neither polticians nor bureaucrats.
Cut federal spending to zero. Require every household to own at least one
firearm, having at least one trained operator.
Remember, it's not as important to know _how_ to shoot, as it is to know
_whom_ to shoot, _when_ to shoot, and possibly most importantly, _why_ to
shoot.
Cheers!
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:22:31 +0000, ChrisQ <meru at (no spam) devnull.com> wrote:
[quote]Jim Thompson wrote:
Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective
My sentiment as well, but someone has to run run the country and try to
balance the budgets. It would help the west if we all stopped exporting
jobs to China, but you can blame global multinationals for that, who
have no interest other than shareholder value.
[/quote]
No business is run as a charity. All businesses do what they have to
do to compete and survive. And shareholders hire boards and executives
exactly to maximize the value of their stocks; wouldn't you? So, given
all that, tax policy should be structured to do the most good, which
includes creating jobs so that people have earnings so that they can
pay taxes.
We all want free market
[quote]economics, but business is now too powerfull for the good of nations.
[/quote]
Business is 100% of all economies. Business has to be powerful because
it creates wealth and stuff. As long as businesses compete, the more
powerful the business side of the economy, the better off everybody
is. The miserable nations suffer from too little business, not too
much.
John |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:34:00 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin at (no spam) highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
[quote]On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:39:02 -0800, Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:08:32 -0700, Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:48:21 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:
[...]
Jobs? The current health care bill penalizes employers who don't
provide government-approved health care. So, when you make it a
greater and greater pain to employ people, the easy, obvious, and only
solution is to outsource, to export jobs, to hire fewer workers. So
of course there'll be fewer jobs. I, personally, will create fewer
jobs. I guarantee it.
I'll probably hold the line at about 20 employees and do more
outsourcing and contracting. ...
When they go through with the net receipts tax thing in CA where
salaries are supposedly non-deductible the others will do exactly the
same.
There are idiots claiming that a 5% net receipts tax is no more
burdensome than a 10% tax on profits. 5 is smaller than 10, don't you
see?
Sad :-(
Just imagine what that would do to the restaurant business alone. As it
is right now I am not sure that our Japanese and Thai places around here
will make it. That source tax would potentially push a lot of those over
the cliff.
For a restaurant, it's just sales tax; they charge about 8% around
here already. All restaurants pay it, and people don't order meals
from Oregon, so it's not a competitive issue as much as it just makes
people dine out a little less.
[/quote]
I'm sure they pay an income tax on top of the sales tax. Technically
the purchaser pays the sales tax so any gross receipts or such would
be on top of that.
[quote]I suppose some people on the Nevada border cross the line to eat, or
order pizza from over the line.
[/quote]
You don't pay your sales ("use") tax on items purchased outside CA and
used inside CA? Tsk, tsk...
[quote]But for companies that sell stuff, and have out-of-state competition,
a gross receipts tax could really hurt. It's a job killer. We pay
about 10% tax on a profit of 5%. A 5% gross receipts tax would be a
10x increase.
[/quote]
Just make a higher profit. There, that was easy!
[quote]I do like the idea of taxing services as well as stuff, since more and
more of our economy is services, and the competition for services is
mostly local. Just adding the existing sales tax to services would
help the state deficit problem a lot.
[/quote]
Don't worry. They'll figure out how to enforce the use tax, soon
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