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| Marc Verhaegen... |
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:13 pm |
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If you ever go lurk on the "iodine" Yahoo group, you can see that one
of the things that helps women with thyroid problems is extra
iodine. Women need more iodine than men, I think. It's used to protect
breast tissue for one, and for keeping the uterus healthy. In most of the
world, people are short on iodine. That's one of the things that got
me interested in AAT. Human beings are simply not adapted for living
inland, because they require iodine in fairly large amounts. Especially
women! And the low iodine results in thyroid problems (and probably
breast cancer and endometriosis).
The other big issue with the thyroid is autoimmune disease. Autoimmune
disorders in general are epidemic in our society, and growing. They
are clearly not adaptive, and clearly triggered by something in our
modern environment. Dr.Fasano may have pinpointed the problem:
it's a hormone called zonulin that causes the tight junctures in the gut
to open, allowing rogue proteins into the blood, which mess up the
immune system (it's like getting a flu shot every time you eat dinner).
Zonulin is produced in response to certain bacteria, and also, oddly
enough, to wheat gliadin. Thyroid disease often happens when the
immune system attacks the thyroid.
The thing is: women are more susceptible to ALL autoimmune disorders,
not just thyroid problems. I don't know why that is either. It seems
that the seashore diet (fish, rice, seaweed) is protective against
autoimmune disorders and inflammation. So maybe men are just
more adapted to "inland" foods. I could see a scenario where the
guys are out on treks, hunting, living off the land, while the women
and kids are gathering their own food. This is true in some cultures
today: the men hunt, but they mostly eat the large game themselves
and the women and kids are low on protein. But meat animals are
harder to chew too, so if you were a little kid with little teeth, it
would be a lot easier to munch on sashimi, and it would be a lot
easier for a Mom to grab a sea urchin or oyster, chew it a bit, and spit
the chewed stuff into a baby's mouth, than to chop up raw meat
sufficiently for a baby. The concept of "women's" and "men's" foods
is still alive and well and some parts of the world. (Which is probably
one reason men tolerate alcohol better than women too!).
And yeah, the female system is very different from the male,
which accounts for a lot. Women have very reactive immune systems,
and everything runs "slower" ... making women better at long, slow
work. Guys work hot and fast: better for doing something hard and
heavy, for a shorter amount of time.
Heather Twist
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| RichTravsky... |
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:30 pm |
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Marc Verhaegen wrote:
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If you ever go lurk on the "iodine" Yahoo group, you can see that one
of the things that helps women with thyroid problems is extra
iodine. Women need more iodine than men, I think. It's used to protect
breast tissue for one, and for keeping the uterus healthy. In most of the
world, people are short on iodine. That's one of the things that got
me interested in AAT. Human beings are simply not adapted for living
inland, because they require iodine in fairly large amounts. Especially
women! And the low iodine results in thyroid problems (and probably
breast cancer and endometriosis).
The other big issue with the thyroid is autoimmune disease. Autoimmune
disorders in general are epidemic in our society, and growing. They
are clearly not adaptive, and clearly triggered by something in our
modern environment. Dr.Fasano may have pinpointed the problem:
it's a hormone called zonulin that causes the tight junctures in the gut
to open, allowing rogue proteins into the blood, which mess up the
immune system (it's like getting a flu shot every time you eat dinner).
Zonulin is produced in response to certain bacteria, and also, oddly
enough, to wheat gliadin. Thyroid disease often happens when the
immune system attacks the thyroid.
The thing is: women are more susceptible to ALL autoimmune disorders,
not just thyroid problems. I don't know why that is either. It seems
that the seashore diet (fish, rice, seaweed) is protective against
autoimmune disorders and inflammation. So maybe men are just
more adapted to "inland" foods. I could see a scenario where the
guys are out on treks, hunting, living off the land, while the women
and kids are gathering their own food. This is true in some cultures
today: the men hunt, but they mostly eat the large game themselves
and the women and kids are low on protein. But meat animals are
harder to chew too, so if you were a little kid with little teeth, it
would be a lot easier to munch on sashimi, and it would be a lot
easier for a Mom to grab a sea urchin or oyster, chew it a bit, and spit
the chewed stuff into a baby's mouth, than to chop up raw meat
sufficiently for a baby. The concept of "women's" and "men's" foods
is still alive and well and some parts of the world. (Which is probably
one reason men tolerate alcohol better than women too!).
And yeah, the female system is very different from the male,
which accounts for a lot. Women have very reactive immune systems,
and everything runs "slower" ... making women better at long, slow
work. Guys work hot and fast: better for doing something hard and
heavy, for a shorter amount of time.
Heather Twist
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Why are there more women than men then? |
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| Paul Crowley... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:28 am |
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RichTravsky wrote:
[quote]Marc Verhaegen wrote:
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If you ever go lurk on the "iodine" Yahoo
group, you can see that one of the things that
helps women with thyroid problems is extra
iodine. Women need more iodine than men, I
think. It's used to protect breast tissue for
one, and for keeping the uterus healthy. In
most of the world, people are short on iodine.
That's one of the things that got me
interested in AAT. Human beings are simply not
adapted for living inland, because they
require iodine in fairly large amounts.
Especially women! And the low iodine results
in thyroid problems (and probably breast
cancer and endometriosis).
The other big issue with the thyroid is
autoimmune disease. Autoimmune disorders in
general are epidemic in our society, and
growing. They are clearly not adaptive, and
clearly triggered by something in our modern
environment. Dr.Fasano may have pinpointed the
problem: it's a hormone called zonulin that
causes the tight junctures in the gut to open,
allowing rogue proteins into the blood, which
mess up the immune system (it's like getting a
flu shot every time you eat dinner). Zonulin
is produced in response to certain bacteria,
and also, oddly enough, to wheat gliadin.
Thyroid disease often happens when the immune
system attacks the thyroid.
The thing is: women are more susceptible to
ALL autoimmune disorders, not just thyroid
problems. I don't know why that is either. It
seems that the seashore diet (fish, rice,
seaweed) is protective against autoimmune
disorders and inflammation. So maybe men are
just more adapted to "inland" foods. I could
see a scenario where the guys are out on
treks, hunting, living off the land, while the
women and kids are gathering their own food.
This is true in some cultures today: the men
hunt, but they mostly eat the large game
themselves and the women and kids are low on
protein. But meat animals are harder to chew
too, so if you were a little kid with little
teeth, it would be a lot easier to munch on
sashimi, and it would be a lot easier for a
Mom to grab a sea urchin or oyster, chew it a
bit, and spit the chewed stuff into a baby's
mouth, than to chop up raw meat sufficiently
for a baby. The concept of "women's" and
"men's" foods is still alive and well and some
parts of the world. (Which is probably one
reason men tolerate alcohol better than women
too!).
And yeah, the female system is very different
from the male, which accounts for a lot. Women
have very reactive immune systems, and
everything runs "slower" ... making women
better at long, slow work. Guys work hot and
fast: better for doing something hard and
heavy, for a shorter amount of time.
Heather Twist
Why are there more women than men then?
[/quote]
Duh! The point is that men and women are
different. That is reflected in numerous
ways, but one is in life-expectancy. Another
is in diet. In the West, where a wide range
of foods are available, but where males and
females are generally expected to share meals,
they do not, in fact, eat the same. As one
example, males consume much more salt.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3650578.stm
That is probably related to the fact that
men drink much more, and sweat more.
Paul. |
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| RichTravsky... |
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:10 pm |
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Paul Crowley wrote:
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RichTravsky wrote:
Marc Verhaegen wrote:
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If you ever go lurk on the "iodine" Yahoo
group, you can see that one of the things that
helps women with thyroid problems is extra
iodine. Women need more iodine than men, I
think. It's used to protect breast tissue for
one, and for keeping the uterus healthy. In
most of the world, people are short on iodine.
That's one of the things that got me
interested in AAT. Human beings are simply not
adapted for living inland, because they
require iodine in fairly large amounts.
Especially women! And the low iodine results
in thyroid problems (and probably breast
cancer and endometriosis).
The other big issue with the thyroid is
autoimmune disease. Autoimmune disorders in
general are epidemic in our society, and
growing. They are clearly not adaptive, and
clearly triggered by something in our modern
environment. Dr.Fasano may have pinpointed the
problem: it's a hormone called zonulin that
causes the tight junctures in the gut to open,
allowing rogue proteins into the blood, which
mess up the immune system (it's like getting a
flu shot every time you eat dinner). Zonulin
is produced in response to certain bacteria,
and also, oddly enough, to wheat gliadin.
Thyroid disease often happens when the immune
system attacks the thyroid.
The thing is: women are more susceptible to
ALL autoimmune disorders, not just thyroid
problems. I don't know why that is either. It
seems that the seashore diet (fish, rice,
seaweed) is protective against autoimmune
disorders and inflammation. So maybe men are
just more adapted to "inland" foods. I could
see a scenario where the guys are out on
treks, hunting, living off the land, while the
women and kids are gathering their own food.
This is true in some cultures today: the men
hunt, but they mostly eat the large game
themselves and the women and kids are low on
protein. But meat animals are harder to chew
too, so if you were a little kid with little
teeth, it would be a lot easier to munch on
sashimi, and it would be a lot easier for a
Mom to grab a sea urchin or oyster, chew it a
bit, and spit the chewed stuff into a baby's
mouth, than to chop up raw meat sufficiently
for a baby. The concept of "women's" and
"men's" foods is still alive and well and some
parts of the world. (Which is probably one
reason men tolerate alcohol better than women
too!).
And yeah, the female system is very different
from the male, which accounts for a lot. Women
have very reactive immune systems, and
everything runs "slower" ... making women
better at long, slow work. Guys work hot and
fast: better for doing something hard and
heavy, for a shorter amount of time.
Heather Twist
Why are there more women than men then?
Duh! The point is that men and women are
different. That is reflected in numerous
ways, but one is in life-expectancy. Another
is in diet. In the West, where a wide range
of foods are available, but where males and
females are generally expected to share meals,
they do not, in fact, eat the same. As one
example, males consume much more salt.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3650578.stm
That is probably related to the fact that
men drink much more, and sweat more.
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