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| Jan Drew... |
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Does it again posts a whole page of gibberish.
Proving me correct. |
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:13 pm |
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:39:37 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
"trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com |" <trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:5e231b6064]On Oct 13, 8:50 am, Bob Officer <boboffic... at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:39:10 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
"trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |" <trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 12, 9:00 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
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Who works/worked in Silicon Valley.
Is a lackey for Barrett.
It is unclear to who you refer.
Jan is often unclear about many thing. But that doesn't stop her in
the least.
Thorson?
Officer?....He doesn't sound like a Silicon
Valley type at least not software or computer
type.
Really?
Background to the above comment.
Many of the denizens of MHA have been
here for going on a couple of decades.
Some have come and gone. Yet others
pop in now and then. Jan, D.C. Sessions,
Mark Probert, Peter B. and Thorson long
term denizens the best I can recall.
As may PeterB be. Oyster is a more
recent addition though her pattern
of posting is one a long term denizen.
The reflected image of ghosts in moonlight ..............Trig
Log term use of MHA could be detrimental to ones mental health.
So much stupid in one place, and it burns!
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It seems we almost agree for all the wrong
reasons.
I love the last phrase.
A wine power posting...............Trig
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I posted a URL to a figure.
MHA is almost like going to work sometimes. and I only have to face
1049 days.
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| Happy Oyster... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:41 am |
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:49:38 -0700 (PDT), Jan Drew <jdrew63929 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
[quote:957f05d2f4]Does it again posts a whole page of gibberish.
Proving me correct.
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Deadly Disease Eliminated in Children under Five Years of Age in Uganda
http://www.gavialliance.org/resources/home_1_noflash.jpg
http://www.gavialliance.org/media_centre/press_releases/2008_03_10_ug...
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Deadly Disease Eliminated in Children under Five Years of Age in Uganda
Nearly 100 Percent Drop in Hib Meningitis as a Result of Widespread Vaccination
GENEVA, SWITZERLAND, 10 March 2008 - Hib meningitis has been virtually
eliminated in young children in Uganda just five years after the country
introduced Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) vaccine nationwide, according to
an independent study.
Haemophilus influenzae type b is a leading cause of pneumonia and meningitis, an
inflammation of the lining covering the brain and spinal cord. Each year, Hib
kills approximately 400,000 children under five years of age, most of them in
the developing world. It is also responsible for approximately three million
cases of serious illnesses resulting in long-term consequences such as deafness,
paralysis, mental retardation and learning disabilities. The positive results
are outlined in a study to be published in the April issue of The Bulletin of
the World Health Organization, an independent peer-reviewed international public
health journal. Advanced publication of the study can be found at
http://www.who.int/bulletin/publish_ahead_of_print/en/index.html
Upon monitoring occurrence of bacterial meningitis due to Hib between 2001 to
2006, the study’s authors saw marked decline in the disease resulting from
implementation of a new vaccination program. Where monitored, the incidence rate
dropped by 85 percent within four years of vaccine introduction and fell to zero
in the fifth year. The authors estimate that Hib vaccine in the Ugandan
immunisation programme now prevents almost 30,000 cases of severe Hib disease
and 5,000 child deaths (under five years) annually, equivalent to the successful
control of measles in the country.
Funding for Hib vaccine is a major part of the GAVI Alliance's (formerly known
as the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation) programme support to
Uganda. With GAVI support, Uganda was able to introduce 16.5 million doses of
Hib vaccines nationwide from 2002 to 2006. The government chose to use what is
known as a pentavalent vaccine - a 5 in 1 injection that includes vaccines for
Hib as well as diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, and hepatitis B.
"GAVI welcomes these extremely positive results" said Dr Julian Lob-Levyt,
Executive Secretary of the GAVI Alliance. "Thanks to the collaborative efforts
of the Ugandan Ministry of Health, the WHO, UNICEF and other partners, we can
applaud a true success in controlling this deadly disease that has too often
claimed so many lives."
Uganda was one of the first GAVI-eligible countries to adopt Hib vaccine,
preceding what is now a global trend. According to a recent report released by
WHO, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Hib Initiative,
between 2004 and 2007 the proportion of the 72 poorest countries eligible for
GAVI support using or approved to use Hib vaccine increased from 18 percent to
65 percent. In November, the GAVI board approved additional funding for Hib
vaccine, bringing the total number of countries with approved proposals to 44.
"This is excellent news for the future generations of Ugandanchildren. Uganda
has been afrontrunner in the Africa region in adopting this life-saving vaccine.
The leadership of early introducers such as Uganda, Kenyaand The Gambia
hasstronglyinfluencedthe decisions of many other countries in the region to
adoptHib vaccine. Today, 83% of the GAVI-eligible countries in Africa have now
included or will soon include Hib vaccine in their national immunization
programmes” says Rana Hajjeh, Director of the Hib Initiative.
"We are proud of the results of this study. It's encouraging to know that these
kinds of interventions in Uganda and elsewhere are making a significant
contribution towards achieving the Millennium Development Goal of reducing
mortality in children less than 5 years of age," says Dr Sam Zaramba, Director
General of Uganda Ministry of Health "And GAVI's support was catalytic in
allowing us to tackle this disease quickly and efficiently."
The Government of Uganda recently committed national resources to procure Hib
vaccine for its infant immunisation programme, in line with the GAVI
co-financing policy.
"The introduction of Hib vaccine has now completely changed the epidemiology of
bacterial meningitis in Uganda, with elimination of meningitis due to Hib as a
public health problem" says Dr Kekitiinwa - Pediatrician at Mulago Hospital,in
Kampala Uganda, co-author of the study. "High quality surveillance has allowed
us to understand and monitor those trends to ensure the quality of the
immunisation programme, improve collaboration between clinicians and
laboratories and inform on drug susceptibility for the common organisms."
Although Hib vaccines for infants were first licensed in 1991 and have since
been widely adopted in industrialised countries, they have not been used
extensively in the developing world due to multiple barriers such as limited Hib
disease awareness, uncertainty about the burden of disease and concerns about
the financial and logistical implications of vaccine introduction. It took
almost 15 years for the Hib vaccine to be introduced in developing countries
after it was first licensed.
There are efforts underway to bridge this gap by reducing the number of years
developing countries have to wait to benefit from new vaccines. In 2007, a pilot
Advance Market Commitment (AMC) was announced, aiming at accelerating the
introduction of new vaccines in poor countries.
The Uganda results follow similar results found in Bangladesh, Kenya, Chile, the
Gambia, the United Kingdom, and United States. These studies have all concluded
that Hib vaccine cuts the incidence of disease by 88% or more within 3 to 5
years.
In July 2007, a study from Bangladesh showed that routine immunisation of
infants with a Hib conjugate vaccine prevented over one third of
life-threatening pneumonia cases and approximately 90% of Hib meningitis cases.
A Kenyan study in 2006 showed that the Hib vaccine cut the incidence of disease
by 88% within 3 years. The authors say that vaccinating against the bacterium
Haemophilus influenzae type b prevented approximately 3,370 Kenyan children from
being hospitalised in 2005.
The authors say that prior studies have shown that for every child with Hib
meningitis in developing countries, there may be 5 to 10 others with Hib-related
pneumonia, which is also preventable by vaccination. To achieve results more
quickly, the WHO position paper on Hib vaccine recommends that children at
highest risk, those under 2 years of age, be offered immunization at the time of
vaccine introduction.
The GAVI Alliance
The GAVI Alliance is a public-private partnership of major stakeholders in
vaccines and immunisation. It includes developing country and donor governments,
the World Health Organization, UNICEF, the World Bank, the vaccine industry in
both industrialised and developing countries, research and technical agencies,
NGOs, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and other private philanthropists. WHO
projections show that GAVI support has prevented more than 2.9 million future
deaths by the end of 2007.
GAVI's efforts are critical to achieving the Millennium Development Goal on
child health, which calls for reducing childhood mortality by two thirds by
2015. Of the 10 million children who die before reaching their fifth birthday
every year, 2.5 million die from diseases that could be prevented with currently
available or new vaccines.
For more information, please visit: http://www.gavialliance.org
The Hib Initiative
In December 2005, the GAVI Alliance launched a $37 million program called the
Hib Initiative, which unites infectious disease experts from Johns Hopkins
Bloomberg School of Public Health, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical
Medicine, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and WHO to
advance evidence-informed decision-making regarding the use of Hib vaccine in
the developing world. An estimated 3 million cases of Hib disease occur each
year in children under the age of 5 years, resulting in approximately 400,000
deaths. For
more information, please visit: http://www.hibaction.org
For more information, please contact:
GAVI Alliance:
Jeffrey Rowland, (Geneva)
+41 22 909 7165 office
+ 41 79 240 45 59 mobile
jrowland [bat] gavialliance.org
Carol Vieira (New York)
+1 (401) 714-0821 office
+1 (571) 723.2432 mobile
CVieira [bat] burnesscommunications.com
Photo requests:
Sandra Scolari
+41 22 909 6528 office
sscolari [bat] gavialliance.org
Michel Aublanc (Paris)
+33 6 08 71 97 95 mobile
michel.aublanc [bat] wanadoo.fr
Cathy Bartley (London)
+44 208 694 9138 office
+44 795 856 1671 mobile
cathy.bartley [bat] bartley-robbs.co.uk
Claudio Tanca(Rome)
+39 06 697 6661 office
+39 347 530 9256 mobile
ctanca [bat] apcoworldwide.com
B-roll:
Download at
http://www.gavialliance.org/media_centre/videos/broadcast/index.php
Hib Initiative:
Lois Privor-Dumm
+1 410 502 4292 office
+1 484 354 8054 mobile
lprivord [bat] jhsph.edu
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| Happy Oyster... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:01 pm |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:46:02 -0700 (PDT), PeterB <pkm at (no spam) mytrashmail.com> wrote:
[quote:dbdf96706d]Oyster is engaging in guerilla-style
PR, proving his/her ties to industry.
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Only a complete idiot would claim that.
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:14 pm |
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:11:22 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
Jan Drew <jdrew63929 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
[quote:453e429511]On Oct 13, 5:39?am, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 12, 9:00?pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
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Who works/worked in ?Silicon Valley.
Is a ?lackey for Barrett.
It is unclear to who you refer. Thorson?
Officer?....He doesn't sound like a Silicon
Valley type at least not software or computer
type.
Learn to read stick. The title has his name.
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Title? And you took Oyster to task because he used the term
"Headline". <tisk-tisk>
[quote:453e429511]Look up Silicon Valley.
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Yes that the place where most of the parts of your computer were
designed. Also your telephone. The switching software however was
designed and written by a group from silicon valley and they moved to
San Diego for school and stayed there. Yahoo and Google are both
based in Silicon Valley, as most likely the software maker that
allows you use your credit card everywhere with a swipe.
The computer for your car, design of it there. The digital controls
for your TV set, They were designed there too. IPOD; Silicon Valley
gets the credit. The weather report? JPL has a Silicon Valley
location, Raython, and host of other giant electronic firms have
design facilities hosted in Silicon Valley.
[quote:453e429511]You will learn a thing or maybe three.
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A short drive 30 minutes. What do you expect me to learn there?
[quote:453e429511]Background to the above comment.
Many of the denizens of MHA have been
here for going on a couple of decades.
Some have come and gone. Yet others
pop in now and then. Jan, D.C. Sessions,
Mark Probert, Peter B. and Thorson long
term denizens the best I can recall.
As may PeterB be. Oyster is a more
recent addition though her pattern
of posting is one a long term denizen.
The reflected image of ghosts in moonlight ..............Trig
Be careful Trig, hang on tight to your tree.
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The only thing which to worry about it the nuts and they get shook
down in the past month.
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:16 pm |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:43:21 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
"trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com |" <trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:ce1e20794c]On Oct 14, 7:46 am, PeterB <p... at (no spam) mytrashmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 13, 5:39 am, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 12, 9:00 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
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Who works/worked in Silicon Valley.
Is a lackey for Barrett.
It is unclear to who you refer. Thorson?
Officer?....He doesn't sound like a Silicon
Valley type at least not software or computer
type.
Background to the above comment.
Many of the denizens of MHA have been
here for going on a couple of decades.
Some have come and gone. Yet others
pop in now and then. Jan, D.C. Sessions,
Mark Probert, Peter B. and Thorson long
term denizens the best I can recall.
As may PeterB be. Oyster is a more
recent addition though her pattern
of posting is one a long term denizen.
The reflected image of ghosts in moonlight ..............Trig
Peter B. is a shadow poster who came to the ng in June of this year.
I've been posting since 2003. Oyster is engaging in guerilla-style
PR, proving his/her ties to industry. Same for all the others in your
list, except Jan and me. I have had detractors that proved not to be
astroturfing for industry. I was attacked in 2006 by a fellow named
Vern for the "Warning" post. His extreme style made him appear to be
part of a PR project. There was a problem, though. His language
pattern was all over the place. I thought it might be an elaborate
ploy, but that seemed farfetched. All I could do was try harder to
engage him in discussion. During that time, Probert tried to "turn"
him with flattery. After several weeks, Vern started to see what was
happening. He was expressing views that fell on both sides of the
issues, so the pharmnuts had no choice but to start attacking him,
slowly at first. When Vern failed to come into their camp with
limited pressure, the attacks became highly personal. That is their
MO.
Peter B style seemed familiar and the handle seemed
similar to an earlier handle so I assumed he had
a longer term presence but I trust by your comments
that I mistaken. Certainly Probert and Thorsen
have been around for a long time. I tend assume it is
a hall of mirrors here.
I can see that MHA is a charged environment.
240 volts has quite a bite................Trig
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440 volts has a nasty bite and at 4000 amps has an very ugly arc.
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| trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com |... |
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On Oct 14, 4:16 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic... at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote:
[quote:ee4c30b017]On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:43:21 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
"trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |" <trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 14, 7:46 am, PeterB <p... at (no spam) mytrashmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 13, 5:39 am, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 12, 9:00 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
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Who works/worked in Silicon Valley.
Is a lackey for Barrett.
It is unclear to who you refer. Thorson?
Officer?....He doesn't sound like a Silicon
Valley type at least not software or computer
type.
Background to the above comment.
Many of the denizens of MHA have been
here for going on a couple of decades.
Some have come and gone. Yet others
pop in now and then. Jan, D.C. Sessions,
Mark Probert, Peter B. and Thorson long
term denizens the best I can recall.
As may PeterB be. Oyster is a more
recent addition though her pattern
of posting is one a long term denizen.
The reflected image of ghosts in moonlight ..............Trig
Peter B. is a shadow poster who came to the ng in June of this year.
I've been posting since 2003. Oyster is engaging in guerilla-style
PR, proving his/her ties to industry. Same for all the others in your
list, except Jan and me. I have had detractors that proved not to be
astroturfing for industry. I was attacked in 2006 by a fellow named
Vern for the "Warning" post. His extreme style made him appear to be
part of a PR project. There was a problem, though. His language
pattern was all over the place. I thought it might be an elaborate
ploy, but that seemed farfetched. All I could do was try harder to
engage him in discussion. During that time, Probert tried to "turn"
him with flattery. After several weeks, Vern started to see what was
happening. He was expressing views that fell on both sides of the
issues, so the pharmnuts had no choice but to start attacking him,
slowly at first. When Vern failed to come into their camp with
limited pressure, the attacks became highly personal. That is their
MO.
Peter B style seemed familiar and the handle seemed
similar to an earlier handle so I assumed he had
a longer term presence but I trust by your comments
that I mistaken. Certainly Probert and Thorsen
have been around for a long time. I tend assume it is
a hall of mirrors here.
I can see that MHA is a charged environment.
240 volts has quite a bite................Trig
440 volts has a nasty bite and at 4000 amps has an very ugly arc.
--
Bob Officer
Posting the truthhttp://www.skeptics.com.au
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Yeah but the fool that got bit is less likely to
get to make the comment. I was recalling an
old guy I worked with when I was young, he opened
an electrical box to set a breaker go zapped.
As the electrician figured that he had walked
away was just bit too lucky even for a dry
environment. Then he immediately
installed a simple insulated breaker reset on
the outside of the box.
Not like another sap who aimed his water hose
flow at an unsealed electrical box and got 440 (?)
going to ground. Not well designed especially
for a wet environment. And no comment
and no pulse on his part.
It is best to take a near miss as a warning of
things that will come if corrective actions
aren't taken.
Good reasons to go complete the education.
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On Oct 13, 10:08 am, PeterB <p... at (no spam) mytrashmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 12, 9:26 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 12, 9:08 pm, PeterB <p... at (no spam) mytrashmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 12, 2:18 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 12, 12:43 pm, PeterB <p... at (no spam) mytrashmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 10, 10:29 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:00 am, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 9, 1:29 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 9, 3:48 pm, "trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |"
trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, Mark Thorson <nos... at (no spam) sonic.net> wrote:
Excellent article in New England Journal of Medicine
about contamination in the severly underregulated
dietary supplements business. Many products contain
dangerous, unapproved drugs, and yet the public is
largely unaware how bad the situation is. A majority
of the public and even a third of medical students
wrongly believe that supplements have to be approved
by a government agency.
http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=2017&query=home
The dietary supplement industry is a dirty business,
sorely in need of reform.
Ha unapproved drugs they call them. I'll bet
they include alot of perfectly safe ingredients
in their list of "unapproved drugs,"
I wouldn't trust most proposed reforms other than
perhaps a bit more funding and monitoring to prevent
pharma drugs and toxics being slipped in by
crooks.
I would like to see:
1. Mandatory reporting of all adverse events, lawsuits, etc..
2. Complete disclosure of all ingredients, and banning the term
"Proprietary bland" etc.
3. Requirement that there be some standard of efficacy.
For starters.
The last requirement is evil, wicked, and corrupt
when one looks how the EU is doing it regulation of
supplements.
I usully try to ignore the EU since there is enough action here..
It is all to easy for government to
deny, drag their feet, and ignore the science and
then demand excessive levels of evidence and/or
wring their hands about safety to the point of
absolute stupidity.
That is precisely what the FDA wrt Thalidomide.
Vitamins and nutrients are not drugs.
However, when medical claims are made, they have to be substantiated
by something more than saleshype.
Understand putting something on the market without
a clear claim should be an option as well.
Caveat emptor.
I do agree their should be full content disclosure.
And I believe the US FDA already has the power on that
point if they chose to exercise it.
No, they do not. I have had this issue with the FDA and FTC and
they do not have it.
FDA may not have unique enforcement over supplements, but they have
the power to warn the public about products (herbs, for instance) they
consider potentially harmful. For example, Kava. Why isn't FDA
warning about more than a tiny percentage of supplements?
Most supplements are "do nothings", thus neither harmful or
beneficial for most people. The FDA, wisely, stays out of this
quagmire.
False. Most dietary supplements are designed to improve overall
nutritional status and do so. The term "do nothing" more aptly
describes prescription drugs which, except for their ability to cause
dangerous side effects, fail to treat or prevent almost any disease.
If I'm wrong, where is the published evidence? Oh, that's right. You
don't believe in the medical literature.
It's because, despite decades of use by the public, there is little
evidence of harm exceeding low-level allergic reactions in the vast
majority of such products. Even Kava is not proven to be harmful in
isolation from pre-existing hepatic disease or the use of alcohol.. As
for FTC, it's scope of powers combined with DSHEA does provide a
framework for safety that has been working just fine. Your sponsors
may not like it, but that's too bad.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/f569f86c8ed22f4e-
Prove I have sponsors. Oh, that is right, I gave you the opportunity
to do so, and make some money while doing it, and you weaseled
out of it.
Your own words prove it. As someone famously once said, "You cannot
serve two masters."
Correct. I serve the truth.
Now, prove I have any other motivation.
Cue the weaseling.
The weaseling begins with your inability (or unwillingness) to answer
a question. You did not respond to the following point:
Most dietary supplements are designed to improve overall nutritional
status, and do so. The term "do nothing" more aptly describes
prescription drugs which, except for their ability to cause dangerous
side effects, fail to treat or prevent almost any disease. If I'm
wrong, where is the published evidence? Oh, that's right. You don't
believe in the medical literature. You can't even post a list of
medical books or sources that would have (for a legitimate poster)
informed your views and opinions.
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On Oct 14, 7:01 pm, Happy Oyster <happy.oys... at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:46:02 -0700 (PDT), PeterB <p... at (no spam) mytrashmail.com> wrote:
Oyster is engaging in guerilla-style
PR, proving his/her ties to industry.
Only a complete idiot would claim that.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:25:54 -0700 (PDT), PeterB <pkm at (no spam) mytrashmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 14, 7:01 pm, Happy Oyster <happy.oys... at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:46:02 -0700 (PDT), PeterB <p... at (no spam) mytrashmail.com> wrote:
Oyster is engaging in guerilla-style
PR, proving his/her ties to industry.
Only a complete idiot would claim that.
And so you are. But in your case, it's called a "confession." You do
that merely by posting.
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Only an idiot would claim that.
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