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| brent... |
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| MooseFET... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:23 am |
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| alien8er... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:44 am |
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On Oct 10, 7:15 pm, brent <buleg... at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote:
[quote:f45c405ff7]You are all too smart to shed a tear or fully appreciate Amazing
grace.
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Thus you're claiming that to be religious, one must be stupid?
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| PeterD... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:31 am |
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:09 -0700 (PDT), brent
<bulegoge at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote:
[quote:d9e7bd1842]You are all too smart to shed a tear or fully appreciate Amazing
grace.
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If you were more sure of your 'religion' you would not be so quick to
jump on others. Instead your lack of confidence shows in how you fail
to respect anyone else's beliefs. |
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| brent... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:05 am |
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On Oct 11, 2:44 pm, alien8er <alien8... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:78459b6969]On Oct 10, 7:15 pm, brent <buleg... at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote:
You are all too smart to shed a tear or fully appreciate Amazing
grace.
Thus you're claiming that to be religious, one must be stupid?
Mark L. Fergerson
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sure, whatever. |
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| J.A. Legris... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:43 pm |
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| D from BC... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:17 pm |
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| brent... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:34 pm |
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| don... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:55 pm |
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| D from BC... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:06 am |
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:34:20 -0700 (PDT), brent
<bulegoge at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote:
[quote:a1fec1bde7]On Oct 12, 1:55 am, don <don> wrote:
J.A. Legris wrote:
On Oct 10, 10:15 pm, brent <buleg... at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote:
You are all too smart to shed a tear or fully appreciate Amazing
grace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yddQeVlfGpk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3XdXEJEI4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD-Ct7GoxQs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJg5Op5W7yw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDLNiraIz7w&feature=related
Face it, your parents lied to you. For a fresh start, read this:
http://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446579807
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Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&feature=related
More "bullshit" took place under godless communism (think about living
in China or Russia under communism) than took place in Christian
societies in the same era. All developed Christian societies allow
for debate and criticism of the church. Funny thing is, people like
you don't have a clue as to where all the freedoms you have came
from. Keep promoting that religion is "bullshit" and on day you won't
have it to bother you anymore. Of course, you never think about what
will replace Christianity when every single citizen is as enlightened
as you are.
[/quote:a1fec1bde7]
Do you live in a bubble?
One greatly non-religious country is Japan.
'Professor Robert Kisala (Nanzan University) suggests that only 30
percent of the population identify themselves as belonging to a
religion.[116]'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan
That's supporting evidence that people can do without religion.
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html
D from BC
Amateur smps designer.
British Columbia, Canada
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| brent... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:14 am |
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On Oct 12, 3:06 am, D from BC <myrealaddr... at (no spam) comic.com> wrote:
[quote:3b29533c39]On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:34:20 -0700 (PDT), brent
buleg... at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote:
On Oct 12, 1:55 am, don <don> wrote:
J.A. Legris wrote:
On Oct 10, 10:15 pm, brent <buleg... at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote:
You are all too smart to shed a tear or fully appreciate Amazing
grace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yddQeVlfGpk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3XdXEJEI4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD-Ct7GoxQs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJg5Op5W7yw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDLNiraIz7w&feature=related
Face it, your parents lied to you. For a fresh start, read this:
http://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446579807
--
Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&feature=related
More "bullshit" took place under godless communism (think about living
in China or Russia under communism) than took place in Christian
societies in the same era. All developed Christian societies allow
for debate and criticism of the church. Funny thing is, people like
you don't have a clue as to where all the freedoms you have came
from. Keep promoting that religion is "bullshit" and on day you won't
have it to bother you anymore. Of course, you never think about what
will replace Christianity when every single citizen is as enlightened
as you are.
Do you live in a bubble?
One greatly non-religious country is Japan.
'Professor Robert Kisala (Nanzan University) suggests that only 30
percent of the population identify themselves as belonging to a
religion.[116]'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan
That's supporting evidence that people can do without religion.
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html
D from BC
Amateur smps designer.
British Columbia, Canada
Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design
[/quote:3b29533c39]
That may be so today. But just 60 years ago their religion was to
worship the emperor. Their religion/lack of religion back then did
not show much mercy to the Chinese, the Koreans or anyone else. If
the Japanese were help to the same standards by the atheists (read
political liberals perhaps) in this country, they would be called all
kind of names for their "bigotry" towards other people. The new
Japanese belief system is about 60 years old. So far the new Japan is
not so bad, I admit, but there is not much history there.
Japan is going through some real demographic/identity issues. It
would be interesting to see how their beliefs change over the next
several hundred years. |
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| Jon Slaughter... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:43 am |
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"D from BC" <myrealaddress at (no spam) comic.com> wrote in message
news:voj5d597m6uvl72u45tbcmrmrmtbbuu6sd at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote:8c6ed803b7]On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:34:20 -0700 (PDT), brent
bulegoge at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote:
On Oct 12, 1:55 am, don <don> wrote:
J.A. Legris wrote:
On Oct 10, 10:15 pm, brent <buleg... at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote:
You are all too smart to shed a tear or fully appreciate Amazing
grace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yddQeVlfGpk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3XdXEJEI4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD-Ct7GoxQs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJg5Op5W7yw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDLNiraIz7w&feature=related
Face it, your parents lied to you. For a fresh start, read this:
http://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446579807
--
Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&feature=related
More "bullshit" took place under godless communism (think about living
in China or Russia under communism) than took place in Christian
societies in the same era. All developed Christian societies allow
for debate and criticism of the church. Funny thing is, people like
you don't have a clue as to where all the freedoms you have came
from. Keep promoting that religion is "bullshit" and on day you won't
have it to bother you anymore. Of course, you never think about what
will replace Christianity when every single citizen is as enlightened
as you are.
Do you live in a bubble?
One greatly non-religious country is Japan.
'Professor Robert Kisala (Nanzan University) suggests that only 30
percent of the population identify themselves as belonging to a
religion.[116]'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan
That's supporting evidence that people can do without religion.
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html
D from BC
Amateur smps designer.
British Columbia, Canada
Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design
[/quote:8c6ed803b7]
What the fuck is the point? Why can't people believe in different things?
Are you so insecure in your believe that you can't coexist with others that
believe in something different. I'm an atheist(technically an agnostic) and
have no issues with christanity. What pisses me off is when you get so
called atheists who are simply anti-christianity because they think they are
the only ones who can be hypocrits.
The fact is that some people need religion and some people need
anti-religion. Others like me just exist as it is. The problem with both
sides, and more so with the anti-christians, is that they are so insecure in
their belief that they do not want to hear others opinions.
It's not that bad with christians any more but it's getting ridiculous with
atheists. So we can't have the pledge any more? Can't have the 10
commandents? Can't have god on the dollar bill? WTF is this insanity? How
mentally unstable are you if your whole foundation of your belief is shaken
when you see someone else with a different point of view?
No, what it is really is, is your narcissism that you think your god and
christians are worshiping the wrong diety. Most so called atheists are more
pathetic than they think the people they hate are. Christians have come a
very long way... I just hope the atheists(and islamist) make the same
progress.
In fact if you were any type of reasonable atheist you would realize that
christianity(mainly, as compared to most of the other crappy religions such
as islam) has done much good for humanity. Sure it did some bad things but
most of the popular religions have.
For one thing we wouldn't have much of the great artists of the pre-20th
century to admire. Their believe in god is what drove them to do such great
things. Bach's music was a dedication to his god. Bach has touched many
people musically regardless of religion. Yet you want to take that away?
Simply because he chose to believe in something different than you?
Most atheists claim to have some special intellectual understanding of life
but they do not. When you hear them rant against religion(but almost alway
really it is christianity) you know they are simply anti-christians and
choose to call themselfs atheists so they can feel special.
Similarly how there are very few true christians there are very few true
atheists. Most people just exist in a blithering state of confused
adolescence and latch onto the first thing that give them some hint of
sexual gratification.
The problem isn't religion. It's people... people like you and brent. It's
not that your just intolerant but your also ignorant. Removing religion from
humanity isn't going to make you any smarter.
As long as humans are immature as you we will need religion. You may think
that religion is bad but atheisism hasn't done a damn thing for you, has it?
Oh right... saved you a bit of time on sundays?
This isn't specifically aimed at you, D, but this debate over religion is
pure and simple about ignorance. Each person has a right to his own
philosphical view and even if it gets your panties in a wad.
What I have noticed is that christians are much more tolerent of
non-christians than non-christians of christians. (it wasn't always this way
but it is this way now)
All I can say is that if atheist results in people like you(again, not
specifically you) then I guess I better just get my 72 virgins because all
is lost. |
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| Phil O. Sopher... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:37 am |
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"brent" <bulegoge at (no spam) columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3d5ec56d-17df-4575-b244-ba414a283b13 at (no spam) v6g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
[quote:5181931862]More "bullshit" took place under godless communism (think about living
in China or Russia under communism) than took place in Christian
societies in the same era.
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The unlawful invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, coupled with the murders
and tortures enacted by the Brits and Yanks were instituted by two
prominent religionists, Bush and Blair. |
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| Phil O. Sopher... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:39 am |
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"D from BC" <myrealaddress at (no spam) comic.com> wrote in message
news:voj5d597m6uvl72u45tbcmrmrmtbbuu6sd at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote:d6c70b88bf]
One greatly non-religious country is Japan.
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And another significant one is Yankland itself, where
legal processes distance the government from the
religionists. |
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| Phil O. Sopher... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:40 am |
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"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter at (no spam) Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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.... an abusive rant to be criticised for that abuse but not otherwise
commented upon. |
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