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| Matt Giwer... |
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
[quote]On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:53:58 -0400, Matt Giwer <jull43 at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT), George <gblack at (no spam) hnpl.net> wrote:
On Oct 22, 1:14 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Your mythology books were written after Christ.
Riiiight.
You really don't know anything about history do you....
There is no true history in mythology.
The resurrection you claim remains a copycat of other gods.
There are no other resurrections. There are no other gods. Perhaps you can
name another "god", and then show **writings** about it that are older than 2000
years older.
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Plutarch, in his Lives ("Alcibiades," XVIII), speaking of the
sailing of the Greek fleet for Syracuse in the year 415 B.C., says: "It was
an evil omen that the festival of Adonis fell in those days. Numbers of
women bore images, like dead bodies, and held mock funerals; and they
mourned and chanted the solemn hymns." After three days in hell Adonis was
born again. He is also the "hebrew" god Adonai.
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performance is no better than a statue of Apollo?
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| Martin Edwards... |
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duke wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:02:48 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:47:55 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
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Mankind as looked to a supreme being since man walked on 2 feet. That's not the
point. Even in Moses' time, Ramses looked to a wooded statue of a jackal as his
god. No resurrection there.
There is no evidence of this at all. Even the Neanderthals seem to have
had a vague concept of the afterlife, but so do elephants.
Neanderthals - that's what I said. Elephants - did they tell you that?
The supreme
being idea arose in Classical times. China has survived thousands of
years without it.
You're confusing your neanderthals with your chinese.
Chinese what?
What ever you're talking about.
The Dukester, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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You'll have to do better than that, old chap.
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| duke... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:20 am |
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:02:15 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
[quote]On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:53:58 -0400, Matt Giwer <jull43 at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT), George <gblack at (no spam) hnpl.net> wrote:
On Oct 22, 1:14 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Your mythology books were written after Christ.
Riiiight.
You really don't know anything about history do you....
There is no true history in mythology.
The resurrection you claim remains a copycat of other gods.
There are no other resurrections. There are no other gods. Perhaps you can
name another "god", and then show **writings** about it that are older than 2000
years older.
Plutarch, in his Lives ("Alcibiades," XVIII), speaking of the
sailing of the Greek fleet for Syracuse in the year 415 B.C., says: "It was
an evil omen that the festival of Adonis fell in those days. Numbers of
women bore images, like dead bodies, and held mock funerals; and they
mourned and chanted the solemn hymns." After three days in hell Adonis was
born again. He is also the "hebrew" god Adonai.
[/quote]
Cultural references to the rebirth mythology
Death of Adonis, by Luca Giordano.The myth of the death and rebirth of Adonis
has featured prominently in a variety of cultural and artistic works.
The dude was born from a tree. Haahaahaahaahaa.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| duke... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:21 am |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:02:49 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com>
wrote:
[quote]duke wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:02:48 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:47:55 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
Mankind as looked to a supreme being since man walked on 2 feet. That's not the
point. Even in Moses' time, Ramses looked to a wooded statue of a jackal as his
god. No resurrection there.
There is no evidence of this at all. Even the Neanderthals seem to have
had a vague concept of the afterlife, but so do elephants.
Neanderthals - that's what I said. Elephants - did they tell you that?
The supreme
being idea arose in Classical times. China has survived thousands of
years without it.
You're confusing your neanderthals with your chinese.
Chinese what?
What ever you're talking about.
You'll have to do better than that, old chap.
[/quote]
It's good enough for me.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Matt Giwer... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:23 pm |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:02:15 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:53:58 -0400, Matt Giwer <jull43 at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT), George <gblack at (no spam) hnpl.net> wrote:
On Oct 22, 1:14 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Your mythology books were written after Christ.
Riiiight.
You really don't know anything about history do you....
There is no true history in mythology.
The resurrection you claim remains a copycat of other gods.
There are no other resurrections. There are no other gods. Perhaps
you can name another "god", and then show **writings** about it that are
older than 2000 years older.
Plutarch, in his Lives ("Alcibiades," XVIII), speaking of the
sailing of the Greek fleet for Syracuse in the year 415 B.C., says: "It
was an evil omen that the festival of Adonis fell in those days. Numbers
of women bore images, like dead bodies, and held mock funerals; and they
mourned and chanted the solemn hymns." After three days in hell Adonis
was born again. He is also the "hebrew" god Adonai.
Cultural references to the rebirth mythology
Death of Adonis, by Luca Giordano.The myth of the death and rebirth of
Adonis has featured prominently in a variety of cultural and artistic
works.
[/quote]
Including Christianity without difference or distinction save in the
nature of the miracles which go along with it.
[quote]The dude was born from a tree. Haahaahaahaahaa.
[/quote]
In what way is a virgin less miraculous?
Does the Y in Yahweh indicate the nature of his divine sperm?
How does Isis and Osiris differ from Madonna and Child?
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Some day you might ask yourself why your god deliberately imitated
existing god stories. Why not something original instead? Was it necessary
to take advantage of existing superstitions to gain credibility?
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those who do not believe in faeries.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 4190
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| Martin Edwards... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:48 am |
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duke wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:02:49 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:02:48 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:47:55 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
Mankind as looked to a supreme being since man walked on 2 feet. That's not the
point. Even in Moses' time, Ramses looked to a wooded statue of a jackal as his
god. No resurrection there.
There is no evidence of this at all. Even the Neanderthals seem to have
had a vague concept of the afterlife, but so do elephants.
Neanderthals - that's what I said. Elephants - did they tell you that?
The supreme
being idea arose in Classical times. China has survived thousands of
years without it.
You're confusing your neanderthals with your chinese.
Chinese what?
What ever you're talking about.
You'll have to do better than that, old chap.
It's good enough for me.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
[/quote]
Rather my point, I think.
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Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen.
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| duke... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:21 am |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:23:41 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:02:15 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:53:58 -0400, Matt Giwer <jull43 at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT), George <gblack at (no spam) hnpl.net> wrote:
On Oct 22, 1:14 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Your mythology books were written after Christ.
Riiiight.
You really don't know anything about history do you....
There is no true history in mythology.
The resurrection you claim remains a copycat of other gods.
There are no other resurrections. There are no other gods. Perhaps
you can name another "god", and then show **writings** about it that are
older than 2000 years older.
Plutarch, in his Lives ("Alcibiades," XVIII), speaking of the
sailing of the Greek fleet for Syracuse in the year 415 B.C., says: "It
was an evil omen that the festival of Adonis fell in those days. Numbers
of women bore images, like dead bodies, and held mock funerals; and they
mourned and chanted the solemn hymns." After three days in hell Adonis
was born again. He is also the "hebrew" god Adonai.
Cultural references to the rebirth mythology
Death of Adonis, by Luca Giordano.The myth of the death and rebirth of
Adonis has featured prominently in a variety of cultural and artistic
works.
Including Christianity without difference or distinction save in the
nature of the miracles which go along with it.
[/quote]
Not a chance. Adonis is not a Christian figure,but a mythical figure from Greek
lit.
[quote]The dude was born from a tree. Haahaahaahaahaa.
In what way is a virgin less miraculous?
[/quote]
God.
[quote] Does the Y in Yahweh indicate the nature of his divine sperm?
[/quote]
Yahweh is a Jewish name.
[quote] How does Isis and Osiris differ from Madonna and Child?
[/quote]
Isis and Osiris never existed.
[quote] Some day you might ask yourself why your god deliberately imitated
existing god stories. Why not something original instead? Was it necessary
to take advantage of existing superstitions to gain credibility?
[/quote]
Speaking like that doesn't understand the OT prefigured the NT.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| duke... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:21 am |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:48:52 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com>
wrote:
[quote]duke wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:02:49 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:02:48 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:47:55 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
Mankind as looked to a supreme being since man walked on 2 feet. That's not the
point. Even in Moses' time, Ramses looked to a wooded statue of a jackal as his
god. No resurrection there.
There is no evidence of this at all. Even the Neanderthals seem to have
had a vague concept of the afterlife, but so do elephants.
Neanderthals - that's what I said. Elephants - did they tell you that?
The supreme
being idea arose in Classical times. China has survived thousands of
years without it.
You're confusing your neanderthals with your chinese.
Chinese what?
What ever you're talking about.
You'll have to do better than that, old chap.
It's good enough for me.
Rather my point, I think.
[/quote]
Then cruise onward in your ignorance, old chap.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Matt Giwer... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:34 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:23:41 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:02:15 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:53:58 -0400, Matt Giwer <jull43 at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT), George <gblack at (no spam) hnpl.net> wrote:
On Oct 22, 1:14 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Your mythology books were written after Christ.
Riiiight.
You really don't know anything about history do you....
There is no true history in mythology.
The resurrection you claim remains a copycat of other gods.
There are no other resurrections. There are no other gods. Perhaps
you can name another "god", and then show **writings** about it that
are older than 2000 years older.
Plutarch, in his Lives ("Alcibiades," XVIII), speaking of the
sailing of the Greek fleet for Syracuse in the year 415 B.C., says: "It
was an evil omen that the festival of Adonis fell in those days.
Numbers of women bore images, like dead bodies, and held mock funerals;
and they mourned and chanted the solemn hymns." After three days in
hell Adonis was born again. He is also the "hebrew" god Adonai.
Cultural references to the rebirth mythology
Death of Adonis, by Luca Giordano.The myth of the death and rebirth of
Adonis has featured prominently in a variety of cultural and artistic
works.
Including Christianity without difference or distinction save in the
nature of the miracles which go along with it.
Not a chance. Adonis is not a Christian figure,but a mythical figure from
Greek lit.
[/quote]
Jesus was not a Christian. He was a character from Galilean
mythology.
[quote]The dude was born from a tree. Haahaahaahaahaa.
In what way is a virgin less miraculous?
God.
[/quote]
You said a miracle. I gave you a miracle. By your definition a
miracle requires a god.
[quote] Does the Y in Yahweh indicate the nature of his divine sperm?
Yahweh is a Jewish name.
[/quote]
What does a name matter? What is he doing with sperm? I thought you
guys claimed you god was not material.
[quote] How does Isis and Osiris differ from Madonna and Child?
Isis and Osiris never existed.
[/quote]
There is as much evidence for their existence as for Jesus.
[quote] Some day you might ask yourself why your god deliberately imitated
existing god stories. Why not something original instead? Was it
necessary to take advantage of existing superstitions to gain
credibility?
Speaking like that doesn't understand the OT prefigured the NT.
[/quote]
That does not tell me why there was nothing original. It is clear
you god immitated other gods.
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or an alchemical chemist. None are scientists.
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| Martin Edwards... |
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duke wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:23:41 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:02:15 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:53:58 -0400, Matt Giwer <jull43 at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT), George <gblack at (no spam) hnpl.net> wrote:
On Oct 22, 1:14 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Your mythology books were written after Christ.
Riiiight.
You really don't know anything about history do you....
There is no true history in mythology.
The resurrection you claim remains a copycat of other gods.
There are no other resurrections. There are no other gods. Perhaps
you can name another "god", and then show **writings** about it that are
older than 2000 years older.
Plutarch, in his Lives ("Alcibiades," XVIII), speaking of the
sailing of the Greek fleet for Syracuse in the year 415 B.C., says: "It
was an evil omen that the festival of Adonis fell in those days. Numbers
of women bore images, like dead bodies, and held mock funerals; and they
mourned and chanted the solemn hymns." After three days in hell Adonis
was born again. He is also the "hebrew" god Adonai.
Cultural references to the rebirth mythology
Death of Adonis, by Luca Giordano.The myth of the death and rebirth of
Adonis has featured prominently in a variety of cultural and artistic
works.
Including Christianity without difference or distinction save in the
nature of the miracles which go along with it.
Not a chance. Adonis is not a Christian figure,but a mythical figure from Greek
lit.
The dude was born from a tree. Haahaahaahaahaa.
In what way is a virgin less miraculous?
God.
Does the Y in Yahweh indicate the nature of his divine sperm?
Yahweh is a Jewish name.
How does Isis and Osiris differ from Madonna and Child?
Isis and Osiris never existed.
Some day you might ask yourself why your god deliberately imitated
existing god stories. Why not something original instead? Was it necessary
to take advantage of existing superstitions to gain credibility?
Speaking like that doesn't understand the OT prefigured the NT.
[/quote]
As it didn't. Many of the literary tropes were simply repeated, that's
all. Not all though. I have yet to find an equivalent for the bit
where some kids shout the equivalent of "spamhead" at Elisha and he
conjures up a couple of bears to kill them.
--
As through this world I've rambled, I've met plenty of funny men,
Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen.
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| Martin Edwards... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:20 am |
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duke wrote:
[quote]On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:48:52 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:02:49 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:02:48 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:47:55 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com
wrote:
Mankind as looked to a supreme being since man walked on 2 feet. That's not the
point. Even in Moses' time, Ramses looked to a wooded statue of a jackal as his
god. No resurrection there.
There is no evidence of this at all. Even the Neanderthals seem to have
had a vague concept of the afterlife, but so do elephants.
Neanderthals - that's what I said. Elephants - did they tell you that?
The supreme
being idea arose in Classical times. China has survived thousands of
years without it.
You're confusing your neanderthals with your chinese.
Chinese what?
What ever you're talking about.
You'll have to do better than that, old chap.
It's good enough for me.
Rather my point, I think.
Then cruise onward in your ignorance, old chap.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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While it is true that I suffer from "invincible ignorance" in the
special sense used by the Church of Rome, this is not the same as
ignorance in its everyday meaning.
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Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen.
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| Matt Giwer... |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
[quote]Speaking like that doesn't understand the OT prefigured the NT.
[/quote]
A simple question.
Who told you all this stuff and why did you believe them?
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better than them.
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| duke... |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:34:32 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
[quote]On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:23:41 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:02:15 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:53:58 -0400, Matt Giwer <jull43 at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT), George <gblack at (no spam) hnpl.net> wrote:
On Oct 22, 1:14 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Your mythology books were written after Christ.
Riiiight.
You really don't know anything about history do you....
There is no true history in mythology.
The resurrection you claim remains a copycat of other gods.
There are no other resurrections. There are no other gods. Perhaps
you can name another "god", and then show **writings** about it that
are older than 2000 years older.
Plutarch, in his Lives ("Alcibiades," XVIII), speaking of the
sailing of the Greek fleet for Syracuse in the year 415 B.C., says: "It
was an evil omen that the festival of Adonis fell in those days.
Numbers of women bore images, like dead bodies, and held mock funerals;
and they mourned and chanted the solemn hymns." After three days in
hell Adonis was born again. He is also the "hebrew" god Adonai.
Cultural references to the rebirth mythology
Death of Adonis, by Luca Giordano.The myth of the death and rebirth of
Adonis has featured prominently in a variety of cultural and artistic
works.
Including Christianity without difference or distinction save in the
nature of the miracles which go along with it.
Not a chance. Adonis is not a Christian figure,but a mythical figure from
Greek lit.
Jesus was not a Christian. He was a character from Galilean
mythology.
[/quote]
YOU........are a character from a Roman mythology.
[quote]The dude was born from a tree. Haahaahaahaahaa.
In what way is a virgin less miraculous?
God.
You said a miracle. I gave you a miracle. By your definition a
miracle requires a god.
[/quote]
And there was no dude born from a tree. Haahaahaahaahaa.
[quote] Does the Y in Yahweh indicate the nature of his divine sperm?
Yahweh is a Jewish name.
What does a name matter? What is he doing with sperm? I thought you
guys claimed you god was not material.
[/quote]
That's right.
[quote] How does Isis and Osiris differ from Madonna and Child?
Isis and Osiris never existed.
There is as much evidence for their existence as for Jesus.
[/quote]
Nope, isis and osiris never existed. You can find them in the index of the
Mythology book.
[quote] Some day you might ask yourself why your god deliberately imitated
existing god stories. Why not something original instead? Was it
necessary to take advantage of existing superstitions to gain
credibility?
Speaking like that doesn't understand the OT prefigured the NT.
That does not tell me why there was nothing original. It is clear
you god immitated other gods.
[/quote]
Nothing came before Almighty God. We know he existed at least 13.7 billion
years ago. After all, he created the universe and all in it.
The Dukester, American-American
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| duke... |
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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:19:01 +0000, Martin Edwards <big_mart_98 at (no spam) Yahoo.com>
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[quote]duke wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:23:41 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:02:15 -0400, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:53:58 -0400, Matt Giwer <jull43 at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT), George <gblack at (no spam) hnpl.net> wrote:
On Oct 22, 1:14 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Your mythology books were written after Christ.
Riiiight.
You really don't know anything about history do you....
There is no true history in mythology.
The resurrection you claim remains a copycat of other gods.
There are no other resurrections. There are no other gods. Perhaps
you can name another "god", and then show **writings** about it that are
older than 2000 years older.
Plutarch, in his Lives ("Alcibiades," XVIII), speaking of the
sailing of the Greek fleet for Syracuse in the year 415 B.C., says: "It
was an evil omen that the festival of Adonis fell in those days. Numbers
of women bore images, like dead bodies, and held mock funerals; and they
mourned and chanted the solemn hymns." After three days in hell Adonis
was born again. He is also the "hebrew" god Adonai.
Cultural references to the rebirth mythology
Death of Adonis, by Luca Giordano.The myth of the death and rebirth of
Adonis has featured prominently in a variety of cultural and artistic
works.
Including Christianity without difference or distinction save in the
nature of the miracles which go along with it.
Not a chance. Adonis is not a Christian figure,but a mythical figure from Greek
lit.
The dude was born from a tree. Haahaahaahaahaa.
In what way is a virgin less miraculous?
God.
Does the Y in Yahweh indicate the nature of his divine sperm?
Yahweh is a Jewish name.
How does Isis and Osiris differ from Madonna and Child?
Isis and Osiris never existed.
Some day you might ask yourself why your god deliberately imitated
existing god stories. Why not something original instead? Was it necessary
to take advantage of existing superstitions to gain credibility?
Speaking like that doesn't understand the OT prefigured the NT.
As it didn't. Many of the literary tropes were simply repeated, that's
all.
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Then you don't understand that the OT prefigures the NT and the arrival of the
Messiah.
The Dukester, American-American
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On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 06:17:12 -0500, Matt Giwer <matt at (no spam) localhost> wrote:
[quote]On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, duke wrote:
Speaking like that doesn't understand the OT prefigured the NT.
A simple question.
Who told you all this stuff and why did you believe them?
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A more legit question is how you could actually admit that you didn't know this.
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