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| Ignoramus19678... |
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On 2009-10-08, SteveB <oldfart at (no spam) depends.com> wrote:
[quote:9ee5c88b9c]Got some smokin' deals this last couple of weeks at pawn shops. They say
people are pawning stuff, but no one is buying. They must be getting about
nothing when they pawn an item.
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Same things here. A pack of as new Craftsman reversible ratcheting
wrenches in original packaging, for $10. It may be more of a case of
the pawn shop guy not even realizing that they are worth more than
solid wrenches. I think that the only thing he knew how to do was
weighing jewelry.
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| Gunner Asch... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:40 pm |
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:42:47 -0700, TinLizziedl <nothere at (no spam) donttry.com>
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[quote:9fbc42e484]
Got Lots of stuff for sale...no buyers. Not a lot of cash floating
around California these days..now with 16%+ unemployment...up to 35% in
some places.
Gunner
Where at in CA? My spousal unit has family in south and central
California, and once in a great while we go road-tripping to San
Bernadino, Redlands, Yucaipa, and into the eL-Alien outskirts. I would
love to come back home with a welding machine....
[/quote:9fbc42e484]
I live in Taft...40 miles west of Bakersfield...some 140 miles north of
San Berdo.
I keep shop space in Fullerton, 50 or so miles south of of San Berdo.
What kind of welder do you want? I have "several"
Got lots of Stuff available for sale. Tell me what you want/need and Ill
search through my Stuff..or find it for you from other sources.
[quote:9fbc42e484]
Where I'm at, if it wasn't for the navy base here, town wouldn't exist.
You cannot really tell that there is a recession locally, but there are
a couple more empty storefronts in the mall than usual. Homebuilding
has screeched to a halt, though, and everyone is trying to get contracts
with NavFac.
[/quote:9fbc42e484]
I have a watch repair guy in a shop in Chino that I take watches to. (I
collect Seiko automatics)..its in a shopping center that had probably
100 shops. 75+/- of them now have FOR LEASE signs on them. A single
example amonth literally thousands.
A client in Tustin, in one of the high value properties at John Wayne
Airport..is in the the last remaining 10% of those still in
business...SkyPark Circle is a ghost town.
For a map of the current unemployment rates by county...
http://www.calmis.ca.gov/file/lfmonth/lf_geomaps.pdf
http://www.calmis.ca.gov/file/lfmonth/0908pcou.pdf
You will note that
San Bernadino is at 13.9%
Kern (mine) is at 14.3%
Imperial is at a whopping 28.7%
And so forth...
one should also be aware that those numbers should be doubled for the
true unemployment rates as many people have already fallen off the
unemployment rolls or are working less than 30 hrs a week at part time
jobs
California is indeed in the shitter.
Let me know what you need and Ill find it for you.
Gunner
GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."
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| Gunner Asch... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:41 pm |
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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:49:24 -0500, Ignoramus19678
<ignoramus19678 at (no spam) NOSPAM.19678.invalid> wrote:
[quote:9e49edf9c9]Gunner, none of what you want to sell is unsellable. If you cannot
sell, you are simply asking too much. Ask a little less and it will
all be snapped up in a hurry, especialy if you can deliver to Los
Angeles.
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[/quote:9e49edf9c9]
Whats in LA, besides empty store fronts?
What do I have that you have a buyer for? Id be happy to work on taking
best offers.
Gunner
GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."
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| Gunner Asch... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:41 pm |
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:39:38 -0600, "SteveB" <oldfart at (no spam) depends.com> wrote:
[quote:946e9e5899]
"Ignoramus19678" <ignoramus19678 at (no spam) NOSPAM.19678.invalid> wrote in message
news:fa6dnc3y6qZpZlDXnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com...
Gunner, none of what you want to sell is unsellable. If you cannot
sell, you are simply asking too much. Ask a little less and it will
all be snapped up in a hurry, especialy if you can deliver to Los
Angeles.
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I thought this was your problem. I'll give you $5 each for the gas bottles.
The BIG ones! But you have to throw in a working 4 ton pallet jack.
Steve ;-)
Humm...I do have 2 spare 2 ton pallet jacks...sigh....not big[/quote:946e9e5899]
enough.....shrug
Gunner
GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."
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| Ignoramus19678... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:19 pm |
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On 2009-10-08, Gunner Asch <gunner at (no spam) NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
[quote:c33616e25d]On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:39:38 -0600, "SteveB" <oldfart at (no spam) depends.com> wrote:
"Ignoramus19678" <ignoramus19678 at (no spam) NOSPAM.19678.invalid> wrote in message
news:fa6dnc3y6qZpZlDXnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com...
Gunner, none of what you want to sell is unsellable. If you cannot
sell, you are simply asking too much. Ask a little less and it will
all be snapped up in a hurry, especialy if you can deliver to Los
Angeles.
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I thought this was your problem. I'll give you $5 each for the gas bottles.
The BIG ones! But you have to throw in a working 4 ton pallet jack.
Steve ;-)
Humm...I do have 2 spare 2 ton pallet jacks...sigh....not big
enough.....shrug
[/quote:c33616e25d]
Maybe Steve meant 4000 lbs. I have not seen pallet jacks over 5,500
lbs.
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| heytwo... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:02 am |
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[quote:4be310dde3]So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
I am not a great weldor, but I am fairly comfortable with both TIG as
well as stick, as far as steel is concerned. So I want to make sure
that the Millermatic would give me some extra capabilities.
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[/quote:4be310dde3]
Are you kidding ?! You gotta put in some effort to learn.
You gotta really WANT to learn to weld .
Word your posts like this .
I got a Miller 33005TLW syncro ......
and the wire dont weld , it just splatters ...
YOU MUST HAVE YOUR HANDS ON THE MACHINE and
then FAIL , you cant simply write about the machine ,
you must fail at using the machine ...
Then we'll help you ...
First you must want to complete a job , then you
gotta fail , then you ask for help here ..
naw , you want to be a respected TEACHER !
No one has any respect for those who wont put in the
effort to DO the job , not just talk about it
I am NOT a teacher , im a DO'ER .. And i will
gladly help any DO'ER ...
I know how to weld all materials , using all machines .
Roll up your sleeves .. |
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| TinLizziedl... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:29 am |
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In article <t0fsc5187epv562u228uo7rkm3fjd6jr8p at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
gunner at (no spam) NOSPAMlightspeed.net says...
[quote:15f9c9b438]On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:42:47 -0700, TinLizziedl <nothere at (no spam) donttry.com
wrote:
Got Lots of stuff for sale...no buyers. Not a lot of cash floating
around California these days..now with 16%+ unemployment...up to 35% in
some places.
Gunner
Where at in CA? My spousal unit has family in south and central
California, and once in a great while we go road-tripping to San
Bernadino, Redlands, Yucaipa, and into the eL-Alien outskirts. I would
love to come back home with a welding machine....
I live in Taft...40 miles west of Bakersfield...some 140 miles north of
San Berdo.
I keep shop space in Fullerton, 50 or so miles south of of San Berdo.
What kind of welder do you want? I have "several"
[/quote:15f9c9b438]
Ideally, I would like a 220 volt 30 amp DC stick welder, and an AC/DC
tig welder. They would be for light-duty household / garage projects
and repairs. Probably only need a 25 to 40 % duty cycle.
Someday, I'll get more power run up the driveway to the garage, but
right now I've only got a total of 70 amps, with one 220 volt 30 amp-
single phase circuit for welding.
Working at the shipyard has spoiled me rotten! Having 3-phase 440
everywhere, with more maxstars, dynasties, and big Miller grids than you
could shake a stick at, I'm not used to trying to figure out what I can
run at home.
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| Gunner Asch... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:14 pm |
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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:29:14 -0700, TinLizziedl <nothere at (no spam) donttry.com>
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[quote:e9bf3901c8]In article <t0fsc5187epv562u228uo7rkm3fjd6jr8p at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
gunner at (no spam) NOSPAMlightspeed.net says...
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:42:47 -0700, TinLizziedl <nothere at (no spam) donttry.com
wrote:
Got Lots of stuff for sale...no buyers. Not a lot of cash floating
around California these days..now with 16%+ unemployment...up to 35% in
some places.
Gunner
Where at in CA? My spousal unit has family in south and central
California, and once in a great while we go road-tripping to San
Bernadino, Redlands, Yucaipa, and into the eL-Alien outskirts. I would
love to come back home with a welding machine....
I live in Taft...40 miles west of Bakersfield...some 140 miles north of
San Berdo.
I keep shop space in Fullerton, 50 or so miles south of of San Berdo.
What kind of welder do you want? I have "several"
Ideally, I would like a 220 volt 30 amp DC stick welder, and an AC/DC
tig welder. They would be for light-duty household / garage projects
and repairs. Probably only need a 25 to 40 % duty cycle.
[/quote:e9bf3901c8]
Hummm...nothing that small for stick...though I do have an old Marquette
110vt AC stick welder...will go up to 90 amps.
Id strongly suggest you purchase a MIG welder.
A 30 amp stick welder will get you at most..about 125 amps of welding
power..which is about the mid range for 1/8" stick...I consider it to be
very very marginal. Start up surge on even a Tombstone will often pop a
30 amp breaker.
I do have (4) 220vt AC stick welders. Miller M-250s that will work fine
in your application..but they are AC only. And frankly...for your type
of welding..Id think that AC will cover it nicely.
$100 each.
Ive got nothing small enough in TIG to run on your breaker. But Ill
look around.
[quote:e9bf3901c8]
Someday, I'll get more power run up the driveway to the garage, but
right now I've only got a total of 70 amps, with one 220 volt 30 amp-
single phase circuit for welding.
I think Id drop in another breaker..at least a 50 amp and hook your[/quote:e9bf3901c8]
welder to it.
[quote:e9bf3901c8]Working at the shipyard has spoiled me rotten! Having 3-phase 440
everywhere, with more maxstars, dynasties, and big Miller grids than you
could shake a stick at, I'm not used to trying to figure out what I can
run at home.
[/quote:e9bf3901c8]
Indeed. Which is why Ive got a 150 amp sub running my shop. Its nice
to have friends in the local PG&E office <G> so they ahum..increased the
size of my transformers a bit...<G>. Now if I could only get the
bastards to run unmetered 3ph...sigh..chuckle
Want one of the AC stick welders? No leads or clamps
unfortunately..bare machines only..but they will give you years of
service and are in decent condition. Heavier than Tombstones and have
fans.
$100 each
Gunner
GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."
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| fran...123... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:18 pm |
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"TinLizziedl" <nothere at (no spam) donttry.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.253912bcb881e815989735 at (no spam) news.west.earthlink.net...
[quote:267015a91a]In article <t0fsc5187epv562u228uo7rkm3fjd6jr8p at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
gunner at (no spam) NOSPAMlightspeed.net says...
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:42:47 -0700, TinLizziedl <nothere at (no spam) donttry.com
wrote:
Got Lots of stuff for sale...no buyers. Not a lot of cash floating
around California these days..now with 16%+ unemployment...up to 35%
in
some places.
Gunner
Where at in CA? My spousal unit has family in south and central
California, and once in a great while we go road-tripping to San
Bernadino, Redlands, Yucaipa, and into the eL-Alien outskirts. I would
love to come back home with a welding machine....
I live in Taft...40 miles west of Bakersfield...some 140 miles north of
San Berdo.
I keep shop space in Fullerton, 50 or so miles south of of San Berdo.
What kind of welder do you want? I have "several"
Ideally, I would like a 220 volt 30 amp DC stick welder, and an AC/DC
tig welder. They would be for light-duty household / garage projects
and repairs. Probably only need a 25 to 40 % duty cycle.
Someday, I'll get more power run up the driveway to the garage, but
right now I've only got a total of 70 amps, with one 220 volt 30 amp-
single phase circuit for welding.
Working at the shipyard has spoiled me rotten! Having 3-phase 440
everywhere, with more maxstars, dynasties, and big Miller grids than you
could shake a stick at, I'm not used to trying to figure out what I can
run at home.
--
Tin Lizzie
"Elephant: A mouse built to government specifications."-Lazarus Long
[/quote:267015a91a]
obviously this has diverged from the original post, I was doing some
roofing work at a house where the electrician was upgrading the service to
200 amps from 60. The power came in overhead and he or the electric company
didn't change the wire. I questioned him and he said that it wasn't like
running wires through holes in floor joists. The inspector came and must
have agreed.
Without any inspection I ran out of my 100 amp panel an 80 amp breaker to
another box I installed with a 70 amp breaker for my home made three phase
converted idler motor and hydraulic pump and another 50 amp for the welder.
I think a GE 50 amp breaker takes more than 50 amps to trip it. My welder
shows input of like 90 amps at 230 but have never popped it with 3/16 rods.
I have popped it many times in high range doing tig. But it must be 3/4 or
so of max. Dinosaur transformer type, not sure how smart it would be to put
a 90 amp computerized inverter on a 50 amp breaker.
Sure there must be some formula as to how much amps in breakers and what the
main one is but probably with a 70 amp service you could have a 50 amp
welder breaker and wire. So long as you kept self cleaning ovens and stuff
like off while the welder was on. If I recall six gauge copper was good for
50 feet or less.
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| Ignoramus540... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:55 pm |
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TinLizzied, I would definitely upgrade the breaker (and wire) to at
least 50 amp, and preferably more. Then you can have a lot of choices.
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| Ignoramus540... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:12 pm |
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On 2009-10-09, heytwo <kc7cc at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:116501d9dc]I got a Miller 33005TLW syncro ......
and the wire dont weld , it just splatters ...
YOU MUST HAVE YOUR HANDS ON THE MACHINE and
then FAIL , you cant simply write about the machine ,
you must fail at using the machine ...
[/quote:116501d9dc]
Yep, I think that you did just that recently.
[quote:116501d9dc]I am NOT a teacher , im a DO'ER .. And i will
gladly help any DO'ER ...
I know how to weld all materials , using all machines .
Roll up your sleeves ..
[/quote:116501d9dc]
A little thinking before doing, has not hurt anyone.
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| TinLizziedl... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:21 am |
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In article <FeydnVzn4umqGlLXnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, ignoramus540
at (no spam) NOSPAM.540.invalid says...
[quote:f32d4c2328]TinLizzied, I would definitely upgrade the breaker (and wire) to at
least 50 amp, and preferably more. Then you can have a lot of choices.
[/quote:f32d4c2328]
Yeah, I've thought that 30 amp circuit was a little low unless I went
with an AC tombstone or something similar. Funny thing is, I've never
welded with AC. I would like to find someone local with an AC stick
machine so I can get a feel for it.
I like the idea of no arc-blow when using AC, but I've heard that the
rod and positioning choices are limited. This true?
--
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| TinLizziedl... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:24 am |
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In article <6a3e5151-3048-4c24-92e5-
1d46b2d6c29b at (no spam) a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, kc7cc at (no spam) yahoo.com says...
[quote:f1f4f51844]
So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
I am not a great weldor, but I am fairly comfortable with both TIG as
well as stick, as far as steel is concerned. So I want to make sure
that the Millermatic would give me some extra capabilities.
i
Are you kidding ?! You gotta put in some effort to learn.
You gotta really WANT to learn to weld .
Word your posts like this .
I got a Miller 33005TLW syncro ......
and the wire dont weld , it just splatters ...
YOU MUST HAVE YOUR HANDS ON THE MACHINE and
then FAIL , you cant simply write about the machine ,
you must fail at using the machine ...
Then we'll help you ...
First you must want to complete a job , then you
gotta fail , then you ask for help here ..
naw , you want to be a respected TEACHER !
No one has any respect for those who wont put in the
effort to DO the job , not just talk about it
I am NOT a teacher , im a DO'ER .. And i will
gladly help any DO'ER ...
I know how to weld all materials , using all machines .
Roll up your sleeves ..
[/quote:f1f4f51844]
I'm not worthy I'm not worthy I'mnotworthyimnotworthyimnotworthy
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Tin Lizzie
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| Ignoramus29131... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:21 am |
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On 2009-10-10, TinLizziedl <nothere at (no spam) donttry.com> wrote:
[quote:15f20c459b]In article <FeydnVzn4umqGlLXnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, ignoramus540
at (no spam) NOSPAM.540.invalid says...
TinLizzied, I would definitely upgrade the breaker (and wire) to at
least 50 amp, and preferably more. Then you can have a lot of choices.
Yeah, I've thought that 30 amp circuit was a little low unless I went
with an AC tombstone or something similar. Funny thing is, I've never
welded with AC. I would like to find someone local with an AC stick
machine so I can get a feel for it.
[/quote:15f20c459b]
I bought a tombstone welder once with the intention of selling it for
more $$. When I tried it, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. It welded
very well, and it was an AC version. It is a totally usable welder.
Also, if yu can weld at 125 amps, you can weld anything. It goes a
little against what I said about a circuit.
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[quote:15f20c459b]I like the idea of no arc-blow when using AC, but I've heard that the
rod and positioning choices are limited. This true?[/quote:15f20c459b] |
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| Jim Wilkins... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:56 pm |
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On Oct 10, 4:36 pm, Gunner Asch <gun... at (no spam) NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
[quote:4ed58b2053]On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:21:18 -0700, TinLizziedl <noth... at (no spam) donttry.com
wrote:
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I like the idea of no arc-blow when using AC, but I've heard that the
rod and positioning choices are limited. This true?
Not in the slightest ..least not for home use.
Gunner
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What do you consider "home use"? Around here that includes heavy-
equipment trailers, snowplow blades and RV bumpers.
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