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| Ignoramus9936... |
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I have a TIG/Stick welder (Syncrowave 250) and I have been very happy
with it.
I have recently bought a pristine Millermatic 251 MIG. I originally
planned to sell it to pay for another item that I bought from that
person. I am having very hard time letting go of this Millermatic and
am very tempted to keep it. Moneywise, I could afford it, and the price
was advantageous. I am, however, short on space and do not want to
have equipment just for the sake of it.
So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
I am not a great weldor, but I am fairly comfortable with both TIG as
well as stick, as far as steel is concerned. So I want to make sure
that the Millermatic would give me some extra capabilities.
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| dcaster at (no spam) krl.org... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:03 am |
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On Oct 6, 5:03 pm, Ignoramus9936 <ignoramus9... at (no spam) NOSPAM.9936.invalid>
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[quote:7ba9b55c14]
So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
I am not a great weldor, but I am fairly comfortable with both TIG as
well as stick, as far as steel is concerned. So I want to make sure
that the Millermatic would give me some extra capabilities.
It might not expand your welding capabilities, but it would sure speed[/quote:7ba9b55c14]
up a lot of welding projects.
I have one of the small MIG welders, a Lincoln SP275. It is like
having a glue gun for metal. Welding something is quick and easy. It
can be like TIG in that there is no flux to remove afterwards if you
are using inert gas shielding. Or if you use dual shield, there is
very little flux to remove, but you do not have to have the metals as
clean as for TIG.
My advice is to keep it and at least try it for a while. You can
always sell it later if you find you do not use it. But my bet would
be you will use it more than the synchrowave.
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| Glenn Lyford... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:03 am |
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[quote:2dace90253]I am having very hard time letting go of this Millermatic and
am very tempted to keep it. [...] I am, however, short on space
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I can't answer the question as asked, but have you considered making
an over-and-under cart for them? 
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| Ignoramus9936... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:09 pm |
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On 2009-10-06, Glenn Lyford <glyford at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:f688492b6a]I am having very hard time letting go of this Millermatic and
am very tempted to keep it. [...] I am, however, short on space
I can't answer the question as asked, but have you considered making
an over-and-under cart for them?
--Glenn Lyford
[/quote:f688492b6a]
Do you mean two welders on one cart?
If so, I have a big Christmas tree style hanger for welding stuff on
top of the syncrowave, as well as water cooler, so it would not be
practical.
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| Ignoramus9936... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:09 pm |
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On 2009-10-06, dcaster at (no spam) krl.org <dcaster at (no spam) krl.org> wrote:
[quote:ade6fa8e04]On Oct 6, 5:03?pm, Ignoramus9936 <ignoramus9... at (no spam) NOSPAM.9936.invalid
wrote:
So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
I am not a great weldor, but I am fairly comfortable with both TIG as
well as stick, as far as steel is concerned. So I want to make sure
that the Millermatic would give me some extra capabilities.
It might not expand your welding capabilities, but it would sure speed
up a lot of welding projects.
I have one of the small MIG welders, a Lincoln SP275. It is like
having a glue gun for metal. Welding something is quick and easy. It
can be like TIG in that there is no flux to remove afterwards if you
are using inert gas shielding. Or if you use dual shield, there is
very little flux to remove, but you do not have to have the metals as
clean as for TIG.
My advice is to keep it and at least try it for a while. You can
always sell it later if you find you do not use it. But my bet would
be you will use it more than the synchrowave.
[/quote:ade6fa8e04]
Dan, thanks, that's what a buddy of mine said also. He is using his
Millermatic 250X, much more than his Syncrowave 250. I have decided at
this point to keep it. As you said, I can always sell it later, and
most likely for more money also, as this recession is ending.
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| fran...123... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:20 pm |
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"Ignoramus9936" <ignoramus9936 at (no spam) NOSPAM.9936.invalid> wrote in message
news:AbOdnY7haLWJOVbXnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com...
[quote:9ece9bc59d]On 2009-10-06, dcaster at (no spam) krl.org <dcaster at (no spam) krl.org> wrote:
On Oct 6, 5:03?pm, Ignoramus9936 <ignoramus9... at (no spam) NOSPAM.9936.invalid
wrote:
So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
I am not a great weldor, but I am fairly comfortable with both TIG as
well as stick, as far as steel is concerned. So I want to make sure
that the Millermatic would give me some extra capabilities.
It might not expand your welding capabilities, but it would sure speed
up a lot of welding projects.
I have one of the small MIG welders, a Lincoln SP275. It is like
having a glue gun for metal. Welding something is quick and easy. It
can be like TIG in that there is no flux to remove afterwards if you
are using inert gas shielding. Or if you use dual shield, there is
very little flux to remove, but you do not have to have the metals as
clean as for TIG.
My advice is to keep it and at least try it for a while. You can
always sell it later if you find you do not use it. But my bet would
be you will use it more than the synchrowave.
Dan, thanks, that's what a buddy of mine said also. He is using his
Millermatic 250X, much more than his Syncrowave 250. I have decided at
this point to keep it. As you said, I can always sell it later, and
most likely for more money also, as this recession is ending.
i
[/quote:9ece9bc59d]
I would suggest a spool gun. A mig or flux core welder where you can climb
around your projects without having to deal with a wire feeder and a hose
like device you have to be sure doesn't kink. Then you have the issue of
what sort of gasses you want, how stingy you are about leasing cylinders and
the space they take. Your argon is good for aluminum but you likely will
want something different for dual shield which I like very much. The .035
can be wound on the spools for the spool gun. Real simple put a bit in a
variable speed drill wrap tape until it fits go slow at first. Other folks
are more elaborate. Maybe even the .045 can too but I haven't got any of
that. Maybe the millermatic 250 you have is spool gun compatible or has
one I am not really familiar with various models.
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| Ignoramus9936... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:30 pm |
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On 2009-10-07, fran...123 <storkensteinremove at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
[quote:1d2ce19eba]I would suggest a spool gun. A mig or flux core welder where you can climb
around your projects without having to deal with a wire feeder and a hose
like device you have to be sure doesn't kink.
[/quote:1d2ce19eba]
That would be rare. Last time I had to do it was when I was making my
trailer.
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Homemade-Trailer-With-M105A2-Bed/
[quote:1d2ce19eba]Then you have the issue of what sort of gasses you want, how stingy
you are about leasing cylinders and the space they take. Your argon
is good for aluminum but you likely will want something different
for dual shield which I like very much.
[/quote:1d2ce19eba]
An owner tank of 675/25 came with this welder.
[quote:1d2ce19eba]The .035 can be wound on the spools for the spool gun. Real simple
put a bit in a variable speed drill wrap tape until it fits go slow
at first. Other folks are more elaborate. Maybe even the .045 can
too but I haven't got any of that. Maybe the millermatic 250 you
have is spool gun compatible or has one I am not really familiar
with various models.
[/quote:1d2ce19eba]
I think it is, but the spoolguns are prohibitively expensive.
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| SteveB... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:59 pm |
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[quote:f6844c8c45]So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
[/quote:f6844c8c45]
Since MIG, TIG, and stick are comparing apples and acacias and appaloosas,
I'd say yes.
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| Ignoramus9936... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:19 pm |
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On 2009-10-07, SteveB <oldfart at (no spam) depends.com> wrote:
[quote:77281d1434]
So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
Since MIG, TIG, and stick are comparing apples and acacias and appaloosas,
I'd say yes.
[/quote:77281d1434]
Steve... I wanted to hear that... Thanks... |
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| Steve W.... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:47 pm |
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Ignoramus9936 wrote:
[quote:b80db18dbe]I have a TIG/Stick welder (Syncrowave 250) and I have been very happy
with it.
I have recently bought a pristine Millermatic 251 MIG. I originally
planned to sell it to pay for another item that I bought from that
person. I am having very hard time letting go of this Millermatic and
am very tempted to keep it. Moneywise, I could afford it, and the price
was advantageous. I am, however, short on space and do not want to
have equipment just for the sake of it.
So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
I am not a great weldor, but I am fairly comfortable with both TIG as
well as stick, as far as steel is concerned. So I want to make sure
that the Millermatic would give me some extra capabilities.
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[/quote:b80db18dbe]
I'd hang onto both.
Stick - great for many types of welding, BUT thinner stock can be a real
BIT%^ with stick.
TIG - Thin stock and up to the limits of the torch BUT try welding
outside in a breeze, Where'd the shielding gas go???
MIG - The better rigs can handle just about anything you throw at them.
Run a flux cored wire and you don't need to worry about the gas. Spool
gun for aluminum makes a great item.
MIG Cons,can be matching the wire if you have strange alloys. Not real
conducive to a fast changeover.
--
Steve W. |
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| Eregon... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:31 pm |
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Ignoramus9936 <ignoramus9936 at (no spam) NOSPAM.9936.invalid> wrote in
sci.engr.joining.welding:
[quote:d1ed48241d]So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
[/quote:d1ed48241d]
Absolutely! <GRIN> |
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| Gunner Asch... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:32 am |
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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:30:44 -0500, Ignoramus9936
<ignoramus9936 at (no spam) NOSPAM.9936.invalid> wrote:
[quote:64f6409bef]On 2009-10-07, fran...123 <storkensteinremove at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
I would suggest a spool gun. A mig or flux core welder where you can climb
around your projects without having to deal with a wire feeder and a hose
like device you have to be sure doesn't kink.
That would be rare. Last time I had to do it was when I was making my
trailer.
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Homemade-Trailer-With-M105A2-Bed/
Then you have the issue of what sort of gasses you want, how stingy
you are about leasing cylinders and the space they take. Your argon
is good for aluminum but you likely will want something different
for dual shield which I like very much.
An owner tank of 675/25 came with this welder.
The .035 can be wound on the spools for the spool gun. Real simple
put a bit in a variable speed drill wrap tape until it fits go slow
at first. Other folks are more elaborate. Maybe even the .045 can
too but I haven't got any of that. Maybe the millermatic 250 you
have is spool gun compatible or has one I am not really familiar
with various models.
I think it is, but the spoolguns are prohibitively expensive.
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[/quote:64f6409bef]
I got my Miller 30A for $50 from Reliable Tool.
<G>
Gunner
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| Bob Engelhardt... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:24 am |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
[quote:ecea9cf43c]I got my Miller 30A for $50 from Reliable Tool. <G
[/quote:ecea9cf43c]
I'll give you $100 (double your money) & shipping for it. <G, back>
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| Ignoramus30647... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:58 am |
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On 2009-10-07, Bob Engelhardt <bobengelhardt at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
[quote:de97cf19fd]Gunner Asch wrote:
I got my Miller 30A for $50 from Reliable Tool. <G
I'll give you $100 (double your money) & shipping for it. <G, back
[/quote:de97cf19fd]
And I will give him $110 just to beat your price.
I hate you, Gunner! You suck!
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| fran...123... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:33 am |
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"Steve W." <csr684 at (no spam) NOTyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hah6fk$3eh$1 at (no spam) aioe.org...
[quote:89870a7d78]Ignoramus9936 wrote:
I have a TIG/Stick welder (Syncrowave 250) and I have been very happy
with it.
I have recently bought a pristine Millermatic 251 MIG. I originally
planned to sell it to pay for another item that I bought from that
person. I am having very hard time letting go of this Millermatic and
am very tempted to keep it. Moneywise, I could afford it, and the price
was advantageous. I am, however, short on space and do not want to
have equipment just for the sake of it.
So... Would a MIG welder like this really expand my welding
capabilities, in any meaningful way?
I am not a great weldor, but I am fairly comfortable with both TIG as
well as stick, as far as steel is concerned. So I want to make sure
that the Millermatic would give me some extra capabilities.
i
I'd hang onto both.
Stick - great for many types of welding, BUT thinner stock can be a real
BIT%^ with stick.
TIG - Thin stock and up to the limits of the torch BUT try welding
outside in a breeze, Where'd the shielding gas go???
MIG - The better rigs can handle just about anything you throw at them.
Run a flux cored wire and you don't need to worry about the gas. Spool
gun for aluminum makes a great item.
MIG Cons,can be matching the wire if you have strange alloys. Not real
conducive to a fast changeover.
--
Steve W.
[/quote:89870a7d78]
If you use files after the weld and are kind of an amateur you will find if
you haven't already tungsten stuck in the weld defeats the file. The wire
feed type of welding in the mild steel stuff I do files wonderfully. With
the wire feed system you might find you grind more especially if you don't
have the knobs set quite right and want to improve.
Fran |
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