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| jonathan... |
 Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:16 pm |
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Why is it when I try to respond to you I get this error message.
"The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was 'om at (no spam) sci.space.history'.'
Does this make you an officially recognized 'reject'.
What did you do now?
Jonathan
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| Greg D. Moore (Strider)... |
| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:53 pm |
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"jonathan" <High at (no spam) away.net> wrote in message
news:Fp-dnd5_HvNbe17XnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com...
[quote:d86e3f7d90]
Why is it when I try to respond to you I get this error message.
"The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was 'om at (no spam) sci.space.history'.'
[/quote:d86e3f7d90]
Umm, because history not a valid top level domain.
[quote:d86e3f7d90]
Does this make you an officially recognized 'reject'.
[/quote:d86e3f7d90]
No, just makes you ignorant of how domain names work.
[quote:d86e3f7d90]What did you do now?
Jonathan
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[/quote:d86e3f7d90]
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| Greg D. Moore (Strider)... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:59 am |
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"jonathan" <High at (no spam) away.net> wrote in message
news:ztadndgvlcLGgFnXnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com...
[quote:5fb05b7cff]
"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" <mooregr_delet3th1s at (no spam) greenms.com> wrote in
message
news:sbqdnfUrHqbIcl7XnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com...
No, just makes you ignorant of how domain names work.
Since you've decided to become OM's spokesman and defender, then
[/quote:5fb05b7cff]
You obviously don't know me well. I am neither.
OM knows I do not condone his behavior.
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| Pat Flannery... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:27 pm |
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Damien Valentine wrote:
[quote:efc7b1f902]On Sep 30, 10:09 pm, "jonathan" <H... at (no spam) away.net> wrote:
Since you've decided to become OM's spokesman and defender, then
could you ask him to stop the constant accusations that I'm stalking him?
Whoa, how does "you made a domain-related mistake" translate into "I'm
OM's knight in shining armor"?
[/quote:efc7b1f902]
You are falling into his trap...
Pat |
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| jonathan... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:30 pm |
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"Pat Flannery" <flanner at (no spam) daktel.com> wrote in message
news:jfidnZUfY5NTg1jXnZ2dnUVZ_ghi4p2d at (no spam) posted.northdakotatelephone...
[quote:08382b36ab]Damien Valentine wrote:
On Sep 30, 10:09 pm, "jonathan" <H... at (no spam) away.net> wrote:
Since you've decided to become OM's spokesman and defender, then
could you ask him to stop the constant accusations that I'm stalking him?
Whoa, how does "you made a domain-related mistake" translate into "I'm
OM's knight in shining armor"?
You are falling into his trap...
[/quote:08382b36ab]
Trap? Or invitation to debate. Ya know, if I have to 'trap'
people into discussing more than...oh.... the torque specs
of some old Saturn V part or whatever, well then fine.
It's worth it. This ng has so much more potential for change
than just small talk and petty personal attacks.
I intend to vigorously pursue the former, and denounce
the latter.
[quote:08382b36ab]
Pat[/quote:08382b36ab] |
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| Damien Valentine... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:41 am |
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On Oct 1, 4:27 pm, Pat Flannery <flan... at (no spam) daktel.com> wrote:
[quote:e49184b753]You are falling into his trap...
[/quote:e49184b753]
Thank you, Admiral Ackbar.  But yeah, I think I'll fire off one
more post and then leave it to OM. It's his baby, after all. |
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| Damien Valentine... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:11 am |
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On Oct 1, 9:22 pm, "jonathan" <H... at (no spam) away.net> wrote:
[quote:2fd9a4adf9]...Silence is seen by many as approval.
OM and I share that opinion I think.
[/quote:2fd9a4adf9]
I can't speak for OM's opinion, but for most of the world silence is
just seen as apathy. Nobody here has the time, authority or interest
to bother with your private little flame wars.
[quote:2fd9a4adf9]Are you saying OM is a lost cause? Beyond help?
[/quote:2fd9a4adf9]
No, what I'm saying -- quite clearly, really, I'm not sure how you
missed it -- is that nobody can make OM do something he doesn't want
to do. This is Usenet; Robert's Rules of Order don't apply.
[quote:2fd9a4adf9]That was a troll, I shouldn't have said that.
[/quote:2fd9a4adf9]
Apology accepted; don't do it again. The kind of "bold statements"
you're making -- like implying that we're all amoral, unthinking
troglodytes -- really turn people off, and they stick in our minds for
a *long time*. You may never get this newsgroup to take you seriously
at this point. But it's worth a shot.
[quote:2fd9a4adf9]Ya know people make a mistake by posting their real names on usenet.
The only benefit to doing that is vanity. But the drawbacks are
severe, as it tends to limit what they do and say to a microcosm of
everyday life. It tends to make them reluctant to try new things, or to
embarrass themselves or be wrong.
[/quote:2fd9a4adf9]
You mean, it tends to make them act like civilized human beings? I
consider that a plus.
[quote:2fd9a4adf9](yes, another rant is coming)
[/quote:2fd9a4adf9]
OK, here's another problem. This newsgroup is dedicated to space
science and space history: it's right in the domain name, you can't
miss it. If you want to talk about philosophy, find a philosophy-
related newsgroup. You don't barge into a Superbowl party and give
unsolicited lectures about floral arrangements, right? |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:24 pm |
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On Sep 30, 4:16 pm, "jonathan" <H... at (no spam) away.net> wrote:
[quote:2b75db8852]Why is it when I try to respond to you I get this error message.
"The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was '... at (no spam) sci.space.history'.'
Does this make you an officially recognized 'reject'.
What did you do now?
Jonathan
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OM is very special, and very pro-kosher as well as republican to boot.
~ BG |
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| jonathan... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:46 pm |
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"Damien Valentine" <valends3 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:709ded84-469a-4056-8e67-9a5dbe1192f6 at (no spam) k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 1, 9:22 pm, "jonathan" <H... at (no spam) away.net> wrote:
[quote:415538718e]...Silence is seen by many as approval.
OM and I share that opinion I think.
[/quote:415538718e]
I can't speak for OM's opinion, but for most of the world silence is
just seen as apathy. Nobody here has the time, authority or interest
to bother with your private little flame wars.
.................
My flame wars? He's been making personal attacks against me
for years without provocation and with hardly a reply by me.
But what is clear from your reply is that any behavior is ok with you.
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[quote:415538718e]Are you saying OM is a lost cause? Beyond help?
[/quote:415538718e]
No, what I'm saying -- quite clearly, really, I'm not sure how you
missed it -- is that nobody can make OM do something he doesn't want
to do. This is Usenet; Robert's Rules of Order don't apply.
..................
No one is talking about making someone change, but convincing
them. That is something entirely different. It requires more thought
and effort. If you're not part of the solution....
[quote:415538718e]Ya know people make a mistake by posting their real names on usenet.
The only benefit to doing that is vanity. But the drawbacks are
severe, as it tends to limit what they do and say to a microcosm of
everyday life. It tends to make them reluctant to try new things, or to
embarrass themselves or be wrong.
[/quote:415538718e]
You mean, it tends to make them act like civilized human beings? I
consider that a plus.
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Then usenet is nothing more than the everyday world. What a waste of
potential. This medium allows us to build a world where things are the
way they....should/could be.
[quote:415538718e](yes, another rant is coming)
[/quote:415538718e]
OK, here's another problem. This newsgroup is dedicated to space
science and space history: it's right in the domain name, you can't
miss it. If you want to talk about philosophy, find a philosophy-
related newsgroup. You don't barge into a Superbowl party and give
unsolicited lectures about floral arrangements, right?
........................
The problem is with you, calling something you didn't even read
off topic. If you had read it, or been able to comprehend it's
meaning, you would see the rant was about a new goal for
NASA, which is certainty on topic.
Jonathan
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| Pat Flannery... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:18 am |
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J0nathan wrote:
[quote:4c0c68a0d5]Some woman?
[/quote:4c0c68a0d5]
Vade retro satana. :-D
Pat |
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| OM... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:13 am |
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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:18:32 -0500, Pat Flannery <flanner at (no spam) daktel.com>
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[quote:f40502c938]Vade retro satana. 
[/quote:f40502c938]
....Oye como va, Santana?
OM
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| Damien Valentine... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:00 am |
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On Oct 5, 9:46 pm, "jonathan" <hereth... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:034a2574e1]My flame wars? He's been making personal attacks against me
for years without provocation and with hardly a reply by me.
[/quote:034a2574e1]
That was a "you" plural, not a "you" singular. My apologies for not
making the context sufficiently clear. I'm not going to address the
"provocation" and "hardly a reply" issues, since that only feeds the
flames.
[quote:034a2574e1]No one is talking about making someone change, but convincing
them. That is something entirely different.
[/quote:034a2574e1]
Which, again, folks like Mr. Moore are already trying to do. If OM
isn't going to listen, complaining to us isn't going to help you.
[quote:034a2574e1]Then usenet is nothing more than the everyday world. What a waste of
potential. This medium allows us to build a world where things are the
way they....should/could be.
[/quote:034a2574e1]
You're thinking of Second Life, or maybe World of Warcraft. The
purpose of this newsgroup is to discuss "historical manned and
unmanned space flight programs", according to the "About This Group"
link.
[quote:034a2574e1]The problem is with you, calling something you didn't even read
off topic. If you had read it, or been able to comprehend it's
meaning, you would see the rant was about a new goal for
NASA, which is certainty on topic.
[/quote:034a2574e1]
Actually, I did read it. And judging from the amount of space you
give it, your real interest is pushing some kind of pseudo-scientific
mysticism, not "a new goal for NASA". Maybe there's a place for that
kind of thing on a philosophy newsgroup, but it ain't here. |
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| OM... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:45 pm |
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT), Damien Valentine
<valends3 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:e54fe1723d]On Oct 5, 9:46 pm, "jonathan" <hereth... at (no spam) gmail.com> quiffed:
My flame wars? He's been making personal attacks against me
for years without provocation and with hardly a reply by me.
[/quote:e54fe1723d]
....Bullshit. Every time you've made a post, you've defecated your
pseudoscientific bullshit all over the group. As Damien points out,
this group is about Space History, not your personal fucking psychotic
vendetta against NASA. We don't want your crap here, and that's all
there is to it, and there's nothing you can do to change our minds on
that.
[quote:e54fe1723d]That was a "you" plural, not a "you" singular. My apologies for not
making the context sufficiently clear. I'm not going to address the
"provocation" and "hardly a reply" issues, since that only feeds the
flames.
[/quote:e54fe1723d]
....Damien, I appreciate what you're tryiing to do, but don't waste
your breath on this choad. I'll probably find time to reply to
"jonathan" later this week, and then throw him back into Killfile Hell
where he'll stay for the rest of his unnatural, catamitic life.
[quote:e54fe1723d]No one is talking about making someone change, but convincing
them. That is something entirely different.
[/quote:e54fe1723d]
....Get this straight, ignatz: NOBODY here in their right mind wants to
listen to your anti-NASA pseudoscientific bullshit. They never have,
and they never will. You need to understand this and GO AWAY. Period.
[quote:e54fe1723d]Which, again, folks like Mr. Moore are already trying to do. If OM
isn't going to listen, complaining to us isn't going to help you.
[/quote:e54fe1723d]
....The tactic he's trying to employ goes like this: He feels he has a
Satan-given right to troll. I know damn well he doesn't. However, he's
demanding that everyone here stop me from kicking him in the balls
every time he posts, or he's going to troll *worse*.
That trick *never* works.
[quote:e54fe1723d]Then usenet is nothing more than the everyday world. What a waste of
potential. This medium allows us to build a world where things are the
way they....should/could be.
[/quote:e54fe1723d]
....The only waste of potential are trolls like you, Elfnazi, ~CT,
Guthball, and the rest of your ilk. You could be out working at jobs
more apropos to your lack of intellect, like dishwashing, ditch
digging, and trash pickup. And yet you waste your time bothering us.
[quote:e54fe1723d]You're thinking of Second Life, or maybe World of Warcraft. The
purpose of this newsgroup is to discuss "historical manned and
unmanned space flight programs", according to the "About This Group"
link.
[/quote:e54fe1723d]
....It wouldn't surprise me if 'jonathan" and/or the rest of his troll
buddies *are* on "Second Life". The type of maladroits who code up a
routine that sends millions of dicks flying through the middle of a VR
interview with someone from NASA.l
[quote:e54fe1723d]The problem is with you, calling something you didn't even read
off topic. If you had read it, or been able to comprehend it's
meaning, you would see the rant was about a new goal for
NASA, which is certainty on topic.
[/quote:e54fe1723d]
....Again, you once again MISS THE FUCKING POINT. We DO NOT WANT TO
READ YOUR BULLSHIT!
[quote:e54fe1723d]Actually, I did read it. And judging from the amount of space you
give it, your real interest is pushing some kind of pseudo-scientific
mysticism, not "a new goal for NASA". Maybe there's a place for that
kind of thing on a philosophy newsgroup, but it ain't here.
[/quote:e54fe1723d]
....He's a troll, Damien. They have no agenda other than to cause havoc
and piss people off. There is no place for them, other than Killfile
Hell as a precursor to the real Hell they'll all wind up burning for
all eternity in.
OM
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| Matthew B. Ota... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:33 am |
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This thread is a great example of why the Usenet is dying. Moderated
forums are popular now. The Usenet is just plain open anarchy.... |
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| OM... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:28 pm |
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:33:20 -0700 (PDT), "Matthew B. Ota"
<otakenji at (no spam) bigvalley.net> wrote:
[quote:f9934b2442]This thread is a great example of why the Usenet is dying. Moderated
forums are popular now. The Usenet is just plain open anarchy....
[/quote:f9934b2442]
....Would that it could save .history. Sadly, it appears that it's too
late, and about the only thing that could save it would be a
self-inflicted bullet in the brains of each of the major trolls.
OM
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