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| Happy Oyster... |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:47:21 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
[quote:cb5aff25d5]"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:it5nd5p1dkn9enima12qeertev8sf3j13u at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Except for the holes.
Flu Shot Permanently Disables Washington Redskins
cheerleader Desiree Jennings
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That is bullshit. You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
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| O.pearl... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:58 pm |
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"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:qe6nd5ptl3373c26dcolc3aois75pp9glo at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote:b2ea084d0d]That is bullshit.
[/quote:b2ea084d0d]
Children Who Get Flu Vaccine Have Three Times Risk Of Hospitalization
For Flu, Study Suggests
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519172045.htm
ScienceDaily (May 20, 2009) --- The inactivated flu vaccine does not
appear to be effective in preventing influenza-related hospitalizations
in children, especially the ones with asthma. In fact, children who get
the flu vaccine are more at risk for hospitalization than their peers
who do not get the vaccine, according to new research that will be
presented on May 19, at the 105th International Conference of the
American Thoracic Society in San Diego.
Flu vaccine (trivalent inactivated flu vaccine---TIV) has unknown
effects on asthmatics.
"The concerns that vaccination maybe associated with asthma
exacerbations have been disproved with multiple studies in the past, but
the vaccine's effectiveness has not been well-established," said Avni
Joshi, M.D., of the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. "This study was aimed
at evaluating the effectiveness of the TIV in children overall, as well
as the children with asthma, to prevent influenza-related hospitalization."
The CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and the
American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommend annual influenza
vaccination for all children aged six months to 18 years. The National
Asthma Education and Prevention Program (3rd revision) also recommends
annual flu vaccination of asthmatic children older than six months.
In order to determine whether the vaccine was effective in reducing the
number of hospitalizations that all children, and especially the ones
with asthma, faced over eight consecutive flu seasons, the researchers
conducted a cohort study of 263 children who were evaluated at the Mayo
Clinic in Minnesota from six months to 18 years of age, each of whom had
had laboratory-confirmed influenza between 1996 to 2006. The
investigators determined who had and had not received the flu vaccine,
their asthma status and who did and did not require hospitalization.
Records were reviewed for each subject with influenza-related illness
for flu vaccination preceding the illness and hospitalization during
that illness.
They found that children who had received the flu vaccine had three
times the risk of hospitalization, as compared to children who had not
received the vaccine. In asthmatic children, there was a significantly
higher risk of hospitalization in subjects who received the TIV, as
compared to those who did not (p= 0.006). But no other measured
factors---such as insurance plans or severity of asthma---appeared to
affect risk of hospitalization.
"While these findings do raise questions about the efficacy of the
vaccine, they do not in fact implicate it as a cause of
hospitalizations," said Dr. Joshi. "More studies are needed to assess
not only the immunogenicity, but also the efficacy of different
influenza vaccines in asthmatic subjects."
Adapted from materials provided by American Thoracic Society, via
EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. |
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| O.pearl... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:04 pm |
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"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:v57nd5pkaltuaue7dc8155epbqtk8kj1fh at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote:97b60fb5b6]On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:47:21 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:it5nd5p1dkn9enima12qeertev8sf3j13u at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Except for the holes.
Flu Shot Permanently Disables Washington Redskins
cheerleader Desiree Jennings
That is bullshit.
[/quote:97b60fb5b6]
That's the effect of the criminal quackery you push.
[quote:97b60fb5b6]You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
[/quote:97b60fb5b6]
Cite where it's stated that the enclosure has holes, you ridiculous quackpot. |
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| Happy Oyster... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:28 pm |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:04:23 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
[quote:2ad1b94bce]"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:v57nd5pkaltuaue7dc8155epbqtk8kj1fh at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:47:21 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:it5nd5p1dkn9enima12qeertev8sf3j13u at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Except for the holes.
Flu Shot Permanently Disables Washington Redskins
cheerleader Desiree Jennings
That is bullshit.
That's the effect of the criminal quackery you push.
[/quote:2ad1b94bce]
No. You - as usual - are not able to understand WHAT is happening.
[quote:2ad1b94bce]You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
Cite where it's stated that the enclosure has holes, you ridiculous quackpot.
[/quote:2ad1b94bce]
Prove, that the enclose had no holes!
And do have an explanation for cables.... ;O)
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:52 pm |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:25:53 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
[quote]"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:0o3hd55h13nhq7bj8d1rven95jeptk7p45 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:32:45 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
..
'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
of the reading system was first recorded (coil alone, coil with a tube filled
with water). Fourier analysis shows (Fig. 2(c, d)) that the noise was
predominantly composed of very low frequencies, probably generated at
least in part by the 50/60 Hz ambient electric current. The use of the 12 V
battery for the computer power supply did reduce, but not abolish this
noise, which was found to be necessary for the induction of the resonance
signals from the specific nanostructures.
That supports my claim fully. they recorded nothing more than
variations in background noise.
They recorded the resonance signals from the specific nanostructures.
That is their dubious if not false claim.
They recorded changes in resonances due the change of dialectic
medium.
The claim of resonance is still not proven.
They did not eliminate the simple change of dielectric constant which
happened when the diluted.
When you start using high amplification techniques and start claiming
significant signal from noise, you start ignoring simple fact that
the ratio of usable data to noise decreases inversely with the
increase of amplification. That is there is going to be a point when
turning up the volume will not increase the quality of data.
'When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
amplitude of the signals at certain dilutions over the background noise
(Fig. 2(a)) and also an increase in frequencies (Fig. 2(b)). This change
was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).
I know exactly what it means. Do you? I will tell you it doesn't mean
what you think.
The container shielded from detection the EM waves being emitted.
[/quote]
You don't know what they are talking about, because you, like the
people running this experiment doesn't Know what they are doing or
measuring.
[quote]Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).
That is a type response to a increase in Dialectic constance. Rz
increases as the De goes down. Any Audio Engineer form the age of
Vacuum Tubes could explain that to them.
You think you know it all. This is new technology. Patent application:
[/quote]
No, it isn't new technology.
A patent application is part of the process. For every patent
application made, do you know how many are actually granted? The
claim of new technology is only a CLAIM.
This not only show you do not understand what this men are doing, but
you do not understand the patent process.
[quote]'(WO/2007/071856) THERAPEUTIC TREATMENTS ASSOCIATED
WITH A METHOD FOR CHARACTERISING A BIOLOGICALLY
ACTIVE BIOCHEMICAL ELEMENT BY ANALYSING LOW-
FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC SIGNALS
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ROBERT, Bruno; (FR).
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Abstract:(EN) The use of an optionally modified electromagnetic signal
emitted by a dilute and filtered biological medium with a view to inhibiting
or substantially modifying said signal by exposing said medium to the
amplified electromagnetic signal using a solenoid is described. An apparatus
for implementing said use, including one or more solenoids for sensing the
electromagnetic signals emitted by the biological medium, a circuit for
processing said signals in order to break them down by means of a Fourier
transform into main frequencies, and a circuit for generating inhibition signals,
is also described.
..'
http://www.wipo.org/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2007071856
And of course we've already seen evidence for the efficacy of homeopathy.
[/quote]
It isn't evidence anything and just because a patent application is
made doesn't mean the object works.
Every year the US Patent Office has nearly 1000+ applications made
for zero point energy devices. It does not mean the devices work as
claimed.
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Bob Officer
Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au |
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| PeterB - Original... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 am |
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On Sep 29, 2:40 pm, RF <R... at (no spam) NoDen.con> wrote:
[quote]Happy Oyster wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:44:18 +0100, "O.pearl" <priv... at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oys... at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in messagenews:1tg4c5pp9jvg5vaufljg174uu5hnhu6j87 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
That is crap.
c-a-n-c- More...
'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk
That is more crap.
Yours is the crap!
To understand it, one has to know a bit more about the rhetorical tricks of the
naturopathic mafia.
One trick is to take some few things, which are true, and then use them to boost
the own sales - by mixing truth and false health claims. Also important is to
spread fear against scientific medicine.
Another brain dead one.
It has been known since the early 1900s that grilling meats adds
carcinogens.
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Stew bait has no experience with that other than having receptors for
chemotoxins and shit for brains. |
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| O.pearl... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 am |
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"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:q19nd5l1co65082svnuvfu6q3k64d9uit1 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote]On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:04:23 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:v57nd5pkaltuaue7dc8155epbqtk8kj1fh at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:47:21 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:it5nd5p1dkn9enima12qeertev8sf3j13u at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Except for the holes.
Flu Shot Permanently Disables Washington Redskins
cheerleader Desiree Jennings
That is bullshit.
That's the effect of the criminal quackery you push.
No. You - as usual - are not able to understand WHAT is happening.
[/quote]
Projection.
[quote]You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
Cite where it's stated that the enclosure has holes, you ridiculous quackpot.
Prove, that the enclose had no holes!
[/quote]
It's your ludicrous claim that it did. You're a moron. QED. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:44 am |
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:56vnd514l2rn71e94uvrb9trdbcbr5nifm at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote]On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:25:53 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:0o3hd55h13nhq7bj8d1rven95jeptk7p45 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:32:45 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
..
'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
of the reading system was first recorded (coil alone, coil with a tube filled
with water). Fourier analysis shows (Fig. 2(c, d)) that the noise was
predominantly composed of very low frequencies, probably generated at
least in part by the 50/60 Hz ambient electric current. The use of the 12 V
battery for the computer power supply did reduce, but not abolish this
noise, which was found to be necessary for the induction of the resonance
signals from the specific nanostructures.
That supports my claim fully. they recorded nothing more than
variations in background noise.
They recorded the resonance signals from the specific nanostructures.
That is their dubious if not false claim.
They recorded changes in resonances due the change of dialectic
medium.
The claim of resonance is still not proven.
They did not eliminate the simple change of dielectric constant which
happened when the diluted.
When you start using high amplification techniques and start claiming
significant signal from noise, you start ignoring simple fact that
the ratio of usable data to noise decreases inversely with the
increase of amplification. That is there is going to be a point when
turning up the volume will not increase the quality of data.
'When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
amplitude of the signals at certain dilutions over the background noise
(Fig. 2(a)) and also an increase in frequencies (Fig. 2(b)). This change
was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).
I know exactly what it means. Do you? I will tell you it doesn't mean
what you think.
The container shielded from detection the EM waves being emitted.
You don't know what they are talking about, because you, like the
people running this experiment doesn't Know what they are doing or
measuring.
[/quote]
Projection.
[quote]Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).
That is a type response to a increase in Dialectic constance. Rz
increases as the De goes down. Any Audio Engineer form the age of
Vacuum Tubes could explain that to them.
You think you know it all. This is new technology. Patent application:
No, it isn't new technology.
[/quote]
Yes it is. And your deliberately barely comprehensible criticism a sham. |
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| Happy Oyster... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:20 pm |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:38:59 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
[quote]"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:q19nd5l1co65082svnuvfu6q3k64d9uit1 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:04:23 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:v57nd5pkaltuaue7dc8155epbqtk8kj1fh at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:47:21 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:it5nd5p1dkn9enima12qeertev8sf3j13u at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Except for the holes.
Flu Shot Permanently Disables Washington Redskins
cheerleader Desiree Jennings
That is bullshit.
That's the effect of the criminal quackery you push.
No. You - as usual - are not able to understand WHAT is happening.
Projection.
You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
Cite where it's stated that the enclosure has holes, you ridiculous quackpot.
Prove, that the enclose had no holes!
It's your ludicrous claim that it did. You're a moron. QED.
[/quote]
Me a moron? Well, well, stupid laymen (who even insist on their stupidity) are
absolutely clueless to high-frequency electrical effects. Even more stupid,
because in the drawing by Montagnier the cables are shown. ;O)
Life is weird at the left end of the IQ-scale. ;O)
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und ihrer Untertemperatur körperlich und geistig minderwertiger... eine
Art verstümmelter, verfehlter, mißlungener Mann...die volle Verwirklichung
der menschlichen Art ist nur der Mann."
Thomas von Aquin, hl., Kirchenlehrer, 1225-1274
Heilsames über christliche Lebensart: http://www.reimbibel.de |
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:09 pm |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:44:55 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
[quote]
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:56vnd514l2rn71e94uvrb9trdbcbr5nifm at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:25:53 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:0o3hd55h13nhq7bj8d1rven95jeptk7p45 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:32:45 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
..
'In each experiment, the internal noise generated by the different pieces
of the reading system was first recorded (coil alone, coil with a tube filled
with water). Fourier analysis shows (Fig. 2(c, d)) that the noise was
predominantly composed of very low frequencies, probably generated at
least in part by the 50/60 Hz ambient electric current. The use of the 12 V
battery for the computer power supply did reduce, but not abolish this
noise, which was found to be necessary for the induction of the resonance
signals from the specific nanostructures.
That supports my claim fully. they recorded nothing more than
variations in background noise.
They recorded the resonance signals from the specific nanostructures.
That is their dubious if not false claim.
They recorded changes in resonances due the change of dialectic
medium.
The claim of resonance is still not proven.
They did not eliminate the simple change of dielectric constant which
happened when the diluted.
When you start using high amplification techniques and start claiming
significant signal from noise, you start ignoring simple fact that
the ratio of usable data to noise decreases inversely with the
increase of amplification. That is there is going to be a point when
turning up the volume will not increase the quality of data.
'When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
amplitude of the signals at certain dilutions over the background noise
(Fig. 2(a)) and also an increase in frequencies (Fig. 2(b)). This change
was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).
I know exactly what it means. Do you? I will tell you it doesn't mean
what you think.
The container shielded from detection the EM waves being emitted.
You don't know what they are talking about, because you, like the
people running this experiment don't Know what they are doing or
measuring.
Projection.
[/quote]
Not really it is experience with RF and AF signals.
[quote]Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).
That is a type response to a increase in Dialectic constance. Rz
increases as the De goes down. Any Audio Engineer form the age of
Vacuum Tubes could explain that to them.
You think you know it all. This is new technology. Patent application:
No, it isn't new technology.
Yes it is. And your deliberately barely comprehensible criticism a sham.
[/quote]
Sorry O.P. You know as little about RF signals as you do patent law.
--
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Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au |
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| O.pearl... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:34 am |
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:tdhqd59ce2012rf46h85cooacimtp2n1d2 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote]On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:44:55 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
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'When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
amplitude of the signals at certain dilutions over the background noise
(Fig. 2(a)) and also an increase in frequencies (Fig. 2(b)). This change
was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).
I know exactly what it means. Do you? I will tell you it doesn't mean
what you think.
The container shielded from detection the EM waves being emitted.
You don't know what they are talking about, because you, like the
people running this experiment don't Know what they are doing or
measuring.
Projection.
Not really it is experience with RF and AF signals.
[/quote]
-Your- experience.
[quote]Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).
That is a type response to a increase in Dialectic constance. Rz
increases as the De goes down. Any Audio Engineer form the age of
Vacuum Tubes could explain that to them.
You think you know it all. This is new technology. Patent application:
No, it isn't new technology.
Yes it is. And your deliberately barely comprehensible criticism a sham.
Sorry O.P. You know as little about RF signals as you do patent law.
[/quote]
'The term patent usually refers to a right granted to anyone who invents
or discovers any new and useful process, machine, article of manufacture,
or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
Translation of an interview with the inventor, Robert Bruno:
'Bruno Robert ensures that the patent could open a new field of science,
that of digital biology. He hopes his invention will one day be a way to stop
the progression of diseases such as AIDS, multiple sclerosis or Parkinson's
disease.
...
Bruno:
It was noted that some biological activities emit electromagnetic vibrations.
Biology is not a matter of molecules that come into contact with each other.
Biology is clearly also some waves and exchange of signals. This discovery,
which throws a bridge between biology and physics, allows us to better
understand the origin of certain diseases and allergies. And maybe to treat
them one day. It would be a revolution against the current medicine.
You were the inventor of electromagnetic tools. What led you to follow
the work of Jacques Benveniste?
I became passionate for his work in 1997 because I was working at the
time on a sensor of biological activity, after dropping seven patents in the
electromagnetic field. I did my military service with a son of Jacques fifteen
years earlier. It is through him that I started to become interested in his work
and he in mine. Jacques asked me to join him in early 2004. He noted the
existence of electromagnetic events, a sort of "noise" emitted by biological
materials.
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What did you discover exactly?
After his death (on 3 October 2004), I developed a method to isolate in these
noises, in this brouhaha, specific frequencies. The study of these waves, once
captured, allowed me to discover the existence of a real electromagnetic
signature. It is as if some had a biological fingerprint "sound", an imprint vibration
that allows us to recognize them.
What can it serve?
This allows for example to identify in the blood of a sick person the family of
micro-organisms causing an infection. It also helps to understand scientifically
how homeopathic products work: they act simply by emitting waves that
neutralize the disease.
Which therapies do you foresee?
We can imagine that we could diagnose certain diseases by identifying their mark,
then treat them by emitting another electromagnetic signal.
With what types of diseases could this work?
We have seen a characteristic signal was present in the blood of AIDS patients,
Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, rheumatoid arthritis, of multiple sclerosis ... In
addition, we also suspect that electromagnetic latent trace in the blood to be
responsible for some nosocomial infections. We work on the use of signals such
as to counteract these diseases in the blood.
This digital biology you describe is challenging all the foundations of medicine
today ... If you're right, it is revolutionary.
It is much too early to trumpet such a revolution. We want to disseminate these
techniques in many laboratories for them to verify. This will be only after a long
period of overlap that the scientific community could decide.
Luc Montagnier predicts a therapeutic vaccine against AIDS, in four or five years,
something which no one really believed in anymore. How do you explain this
acceleration of research?
It is possible that this announcement reflects the interest that Prof. Luc Montagnier
had for some time in the work of Jacques Benveniste and his team, and this gave
him access to new keys to understanding life. I would add that we ourselves have
achieved initial results in vitro in this direction, which are very encouraging for the
research against AIDS.
http://www.vih.org/actu-sites/20090310/sida-guerre-secrete-pour-brevet-siecle-2622 |
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[quote]On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:38:59 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:q19nd5l1co65082svnuvfu6q3k64d9uit1 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:04:23 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:v57nd5pkaltuaue7dc8155epbqtk8kj1fh at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:47:21 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:it5nd5p1dkn9enima12qeertev8sf3j13u at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Except for the holes.
Flu Shot Permanently Disables Washington Redskins
cheerleader Desiree Jennings
That is bullshit.
That's the effect of the criminal quackery you push.
No. You - as usual - are not able to understand WHAT is happening.
Projection.
You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
Cite where it's stated that the enclosure has holes, you ridiculous quackpot.
Prove, that the enclose had no holes!
It's your ludicrous claim that it did. You're a moron. QED.
Me a moron?
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| Bob Officer... |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:34:13 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
[quote]"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:tdhqd59ce2012rf46h85cooacimtp2n1d2 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:44:55 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
..
'When dilutions of the M. pirum fltrate were recorded for wave emission,
the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
amplitude of the signals at certain dilutions over the background noise
(Fig. 2(a)) and also an increase in frequencies (Fig. 2(b)). This change
was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).
I know exactly what it means. Do you? I will tell you it doesn't mean
what you think.
The container shielded from detection the EM waves being emitted.
You don't know what they are talking about, because you, like the
people running this experiment don't Know what they are doing or
measuring.
Projection.
Not really it is experience with RF and AF signals.
-Your- experience.
[/quote]
Actually it is the body of science which backs me, not these to
idiots playing in an area they have zero expertise. The source and
cause for the signals is well known.
All one has to do is open a 1960 or 1970 text book on AC impedance
and how Change in Dielectric constant effects Impedance. It isn't
taught any most electronics classes anymore because with modern
electronics, integrated circuits, most of the worry about impedances
has gone away. Most designers follow cookbook standards now without
ever knowing why they put to tantalum caps in the designs.
[quote]
Fourier analysis of the M. pirum signals showed a shift towards higher
frequencies close to 1000 Hz and multiples of it. Profiles were identical
for all the dilutions showing an increase in amplitude (Fig. 2(c) and2(d)).
That is a type response to a increase in Dialectic constance. Rz
increases as the De goes down. Any Audio Engineer form the age of
Vacuum Tubes could explain that to them.
You think you know it all. This is new technology. Patent application:
No, it isn't new technology.
Yes it is. And your deliberately barely comprehensible criticism a sham.
Sorry O.P. You know as little about RF signals as you do patent law.
'The term patent usually refers to a right granted to anyone who invents
or discovers any new and useful process, machine, article of manufacture,
or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
[/quote]
It isn't new. It is called a 'derivative work'. There are already
preexisting patents for the identical device in records and
published/ You have to go back to about 1954 or 1955 IIRC.
[quote]Translation of an interview with the inventor, Robert Bruno:
'Bruno Robert ensures that the patent could open a new field of science,
that of digital biology. He hopes his invention will one day be a way to stop
the progression of diseases such as AIDS, multiple sclerosis or Parkinson's
disease.
[/quote]
Standard Blather.
[quote]..
Bruno:
It was noted that some biological activities emit electromagnetic vibrations.
Biology is not a matter of molecules that come into contact with each other.
Biology is clearly also some waves and exchange of signals. This discovery,
which throws a bridge between biology and physics, allows us to better
understand the origin of certain diseases and allergies. And maybe to treat
them one day. It would be a revolution against the current medicine.
You were the inventor of electromagnetic tools. What led you to follow
the work of Jacques Benveniste?
I became passionate for his work in 1997 because I was working at the
time on a sensor of biological activity, after dropping seven patents in the
electromagnetic field. I did my military service with a son of Jacques fifteen
years earlier. It is through him that I started to become interested in his work
and he in mine. Jacques asked me to join him in early 2004. He noted the
existence of electromagnetic events, a sort of "noise" emitted by biological
materials.
..
What did you discover exactly?
After his death (on 3 October 2004), I developed a method to isolate in these
noises, in this brouhaha, specific frequencies. The study of these waves, once
captured, allowed me to discover the existence of a real electromagnetic
signature. It is as if some had a biological fingerprint "sound", an imprint vibration
that allows us to recognize them.
What can it serve?
This allows for example to identify in the blood of a sick person the family of
micro-organisms causing an infection. It also helps to understand scientifically
how homeopathic products work: they act simply by emitting waves that
neutralize the disease.
Which therapies do you foresee?
We can imagine that we could diagnose certain diseases by identifying their mark,
then treat them by emitting another electromagnetic signal.
With what types of diseases could this work?
We have seen a characteristic signal was present in the blood of AIDS patients,
Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, rheumatoid arthritis, of multiple sclerosis ... In
addition, we also suspect that electromagnetic latent trace in the blood to be
responsible for some nosocomial infections. We work on the use of signals such
as to counteract these diseases in the blood.
This digital biology you describe is challenging all the foundations of medicine
today ... If you're right, it is revolutionary.
It is much too early to trumpet such a revolution. We want to disseminate these
techniques in many laboratories for them to verify. This will be only after a long
period of overlap that the scientific community could decide.
Luc Montagnier predicts a therapeutic vaccine against AIDS, in four or five years,
something which no one really believed in anymore. How do you explain this
acceleration of research?
It is possible that this announcement reflects the interest that Prof. Luc Montagnier
had for some time in the work of Jacques Benveniste and his team, and this gave
him access to new keys to understanding life. I would add that we ourselves have
achieved initial results in vitro in this direction, which are very encouraging for the
research against AIDS.
http://www.vih.org/actu-sites/20090310/sida-guerre-secrete-pour-brevet-siecle-2622
[/quote]
Sure... I think I'll wait until after the patent fight is over.
--
Bob Officer
Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au |
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| O.pearl... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:49 am |
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:fhk4e5pfj59f3dd06nmagduhri27b11fkv at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote]On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:34:13 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:tdhqd59ce2012rf46h85cooacimtp2n1d2 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:44:55 +0100, in misc.health.alternative,
"O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
..
'When dilutions of the M. pirum filtrate were recorded for wave emission,
the first obvious phenomenon observed was an increase of the overall
amplitude of the signals at certain dilutions over the background noise
(Fig. 2(a)) and also an increase in frequencies (Fig. 2(b)). This change
was abolished if the tube to be analyzed was placed inside a box
sheltered with sheets of copper and mumetal (David, 1998).
I know exactly what it means. Do you? I will tell you it doesn't mean
what you think.
The container shielded from detection the EM waves being emitted.
You don't know what they are talking about, because you, like the
people running this experiment don't Know what they are doing or
measuring.
Projection.
Not really it is experience with RF and AF signals.
-Your- experience.
Actually it is the body of science which backs me, not these to
idiots <continued 'know-it-all' quackpot blather
[/quote]
'FDA, FTC threaten Dr. Weil over immune-boosting supplements for
H1N1 swine flu (opinion) Thu at 8:00am
(NaturalNews) In working to protect the business interests of vaccine
manufactures, both the FDA and FTC have declared all-out war against
any products that might offer consumers options other than vaccines.
This week, that war against natural remedies reached the shores of
Dr. Andrew Weil, who is perhaps the best-known alternative medicine
doctor in America. In an intimidating, threatening letter jointly issued by
the FTC and the FDA, these rogue government agencies threatened
Dr. Weil with criminal prosecution for making true statements about his
immune-boosting formula such as, "Astragalus ... is ... used traditionally
to ward off colds and flu, and has demonstrated both antiviral and
immune-boosting effects in scientific investigation."
This statement, although scientifically valid and true, is a threat to the
profits of the vaccine industry, and so Dr. Weil's company is being
targeted by the FTC / FDA vaccine racket tag-team for termination.
You can review the FTC threats against Dr. Weil on the FTC's own website:
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm186837.htm
Some of the threats leveled against Dr. Weil by the FTC include:
* Forcing Dr. Weil's company to refund ALL customers who purchased
his immune support formula. (For no apparent reason other than to burden
his company with such costs.)
* Subjecting Dr. Weil's company with "legal action in the form of a Federal
District Court injunction or Administrative Order."
* Gunpoint seizure of ALL of Dr. Weil's nutritional products: "If your firm
fails to take corrective action immediately, FDA may take enforcement
action, such as seizure or injunction for violations of the FFDC Act without
further notice."
* Subjecting Dr. Weil and his company to criminal prosecution: "Firms that
fail to take corrective action may also be referred to FDA's Office of
Criminal Investigations for possible criminal prosecution for violations of the
FFDC Act and other federal laws."
* Adding Dr. Weil's company to a list of companies that have been found
in "violation" of the FFDC Act.
These threats are signed by the top fearmongers running the censorship
racket at both the FTC and FDA:
/Mary K. Engle Associate Director, Division of Advertising Practices
Federal Trade Commission Roberta F. Wagner Director, Office of
Compliance Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition Food and
Drug Administration/
Do you now see what a criminal racket the vaccine industry is running in
America by invoking these tactics of tyranny? This is the kind of thing you
might expect to see in China, where government officials arrest Falun Gong
members who attempt to meditate in public, but you wouldn't think that in
the United States of America -- "Land of the Free" -- you'd be threatened
with arrest and financial ruin for simply /telling the truth/ about a powerful
herb with scientifically-validated medicinal properties.
The FTC's dangerous double standard
This FTC / FDA letter claims Dr. Weil has been promoting his immune-
boosting formula "...without rigorous scientific evidence sufficient to
substantiate the claims."
This might be taken with some level of seriousness if, in fact, the vaccine
makers had any such evidence to substantiate their own claims that flu
vaccines work at all. But as NaturalNews readers have already learned,
flu vaccines are a scientific hoax lacking any honest evidence that they
actually work. In fact, all the evidence points to the reality that they don't
work. (http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_vaccines_flu_vaccine_.html)
The FTC, you see, applies a completely different standard of proof against
dietary supplements than to vaccines. According to FTC staff, "...the FTC
Act, 15 U.S.C. SS 41 et seq., requires that claims that a dietary
supplement can prevent, treat, or cure human infection with the H1N1 virus,
must be supported by well-controlled human clinical studies at the time the
claims are made."
And yet, at the same time, *there are no well-controlled human clinical
studies backing the efficacy of vaccines*. They simply don't exist.
Thus, vaccines can be approved based on /wishful thinking/ while dietary
supplements must be subjected to "rigorous scientific study."
Enslaved by the medical regime
How is that fair? It isn't. The game is rigged from the start to allow drugs
and vaccines to be sold based on the flimsiest of evidence while natural
remedies are routinely suppressed by holding them to an impossible
standard.
This is similar to the way in which blacks were prevented from voting in
America throughout the 20th century. The people who controlled the
voting booths would issue "IQ tests" to anyone who tried to vote. The
tests were rigged to fail all blacks while allowing whites to easily pass
(and therefore vote).
The whole system was rigged from the start to create the illusion of
fairness even though the outcome had already been pre-decided. This
same brand of racism is now operating in modern medicine, except it's
/drugism/ instead of racism. But the outcome has already been decided
by the FDA just the same: All natural products will be denied, while all
vaccines will be approved. This is how the system is rigged.
Just so you understand how ludicrous this is, what the FTC / FDA tag-
team is saying is that herbs, superfoods and other natural substances
that are naturally biocompatible with your body are, in essence, /guilty
until proven innocent/. Meanwhile vaccines made in a lab with synthetic
chemicals, mercury derivatives and DNA fragments from diseased
animals are considered /safe and effective by default, even in the
absence of any real science/. Do you see how twisted and dangerous
this whole system has become?
Censoring true statements to silence natural health proponents
Both the FTC and FDA have a long history of using tactics of extreme
intimidation in an attempt to censor people who provide natural remedies
that compete with sales of pharmaceuticals. When a doctor can't even
make a true scientific statement about the medicinal properties of an
herb without being threatened by the FTC, it's a sure sign that what was
supposed to be a regulatory agency has now become a criminal racket
serving the interests of Big Pharma.
Here's one statement the FTC / FDA letter "accuses" Dr. Weil of
making: "Astragalus ... is ... used traditionally to ward off colds and flu,
and has demonstrated both antiviral and immune-boosting effects in
scientific investigation."
Is there anything false in that statement? Anything misleading? Not in the
least. It's a statement backed by reality. Astragalus does, indeed, have
powerful antiviral and immune-boosting properties. It works better than
vaccines, in fact, at protecting people from the flu. See a long list of
supporting statements from experts on this very topic right here: (http://www.naturalnews.com/027302_astragalus_the_flu.html)
And yet for daring to make this simple, true statement on the internet,
Dr. Weil has been threatened by the FTC with criminal prosecution.
Our own U.S. government has threatened to arrest him, destroy his
business, criminally prosecute him, confiscate his products, financially
ruin his company and add him to a list of "violators." That sounds more
like Nazi Germany than America, doesn't it? Yet it's happening in
America right now.
What other "crimes" has Dr. Weil committed? He dared to make a
second true statement about astragalus:
"The synergistic combination of immune modulators [found in the
Immune Support Formula] is especially useful for those who tend
to get every bug that goes around during the winter."
Once again, another true statement. It's like saying "vitamin C boosts
immune function," or "vitamin D helps prevent cancer." Both are true
statements, but both have been outlawed in America by the FTC
racket. The truth, simply put, has been outlawed in America (and in
Europe, too, for the most part. This censorship of natural remedies is
global...)
FTC / FDA thugs and crimes against humanity
If you really think about what's going on here with the FTC / FDA
intimidation tactics, you realize that *if a pandemic really does start to
kill people, it is these FTC / FDA bureaucrats who will have blood
on their hands*.
Why? Because even in a time when prescription anti-virals don't work,
and vaccines are in short supply (and don't work anyway), these
government thugs are running around silencing and intimidating the very
people offering /real solutions/ for immune system protection. When the
virus mutates, rendering the vaccines worthless, and the anti-virals are
long gone, *how are Americans supposed to protect themselves against
a pandemic virus?* The FTC and FDA have made certain that all
available "natural" options have been eliminated! Hospitals have been
instructed to turn people away. The CDC has instructed states to stop
tracking the H1N1 swine flu altogether.
*In other words, these health authorities are hanging the American
people out to dry.* They're betraying the very people they claim to serve.
Should a pandemic unfold that really starts to kill a large number of people,
these two agencies will be directly contributing to the deaths of people who
could have been saved by natural remedies like Astragalus, or Reishi
mushrooms, or Vitamin D, or other nutritional products. And while you may
not call that murder, it is precisely the definition of /negligent homicide/.
FTC and FDA officials /are killing Americans/ with their continued assault
on natural medicine that saves lives. I call it a crime against humanity.
And they're doing it for one reason: To protect a corrupt, quack-science
vaccine industry whose products were only approved via fraud, in direct
violation of U.S. law
(http://www.naturalnews.com/027258_vaccines_flu_vaccine.html).
The "protection" racket -- it's all for your protection
To hear them say it, though, they're "protecting" people:
"FDA is taking urgent measures to protect consumers from products that,
without approval or authorization by FDA, claim to diagnose, mitigate,
prevent, treat or cure H1N1 Flu Virus in people."
At the same time, of course, the only products that receive approval from
the FDA are vaccines and prescription medications. *The FDA's official
position is that there is no such thing as any herb, any plant, any nutrient or
any dietary supplement that has any beneficial effect on the human body*.
As ridiculous as this sounds, it is precisely the current position of the FDA!
Thus, no herb, plant, nutrient or supplement can EVER be approved by
the FDA to protect against influenza.
As you've figured out, the whole game is rigged from the start. Herbs that
have anti-viral properties will never be approved as anti-virals. And, frankly,
for the people running natural product companies to try to play the "FDA
game" is useless. *You can never appease tyranny*. Trying to "conform"
to the requirements of the FDA and FTC is like Jewish prisoners trying to
conform to the wishes of Hitler. You've been condemned from the start!
Stop playing their game... stop bowing down to the false authority of the
FTC and FDA. Only a handful of health product companies like Daniel
Chapter One have demonstrated the courage to fight tyranny and take a
stand for health freedom
(http://www.naturalnews.com/026970_health_the_FTC_freedom.html).
The FDA isn't interested in what works to stop the flu. It's is only interested
in propping up the quack profits of one industry at any cost. And one day,
that cost may be extracted in terms of *dead Americans* who could have
been saved with natural remedies like Dr. Weil's immune support product.
And that, my friends, is what makes the FDA a criminal racket. It is being
operated today as a blatant criminal enterprise that directly contributes to
the suffering and death of the American people. These bureaucrats would
rather see helpless victims die than lose a dollar of profit for Big Pharma.
They have sold out the American people for the almighty dollar. Truth be
damned.
It's time to end this medical police state
When true statements about botany are outlawed, and the only statements
allowed to be made about H1N1 flu protection are based on profit-driven
lies, and the very leaders who try to help the People (like Dr. Weil) are
threatened with being arrested as criminals and having their companies shut
down at gunpoint, *that's when you know you live in a "1984"-style medical
police state.*
In American medicine today, you don't live in a free society. You don't
have a free choice about medicine. You are given the false choice of which
vaccine to take: Nasal or Injection. That's the choice you've been given.
All other options (anti-viral herbs, homeopathy, vitamin D, etc.) are being
eliminated "for your protection."
For all those who voted for Obama, by the way, keep in mind this
criminal FDA racket continues to operate in full swing under the Obama
administration, just as it did under the Bush Administration. Sadly,
Obama has done absolutely nothing to halt the tyranny against natural
product companies. In fact, under Obama, this action has been
accelerated by the FTC and FDA. It's worse now than ever before, and
with Big Government getting even bigger -- and more lawmakers calling
for /increased FDA funding/ -- this problem is only bound to get worse.
The U.S. Justice Department recently nailed Pfizer with a $1.3 billion
criminal fine after prosecuting the company for paying kickbacks to
doctors and committing marketing fraud
(http://www.naturalnews.com/027276_Pfizer_drugs_the_FDA.html).
My only question is:*When will the Justice Department investigate and
prosecute the criminals at the FDA and FTC* who are putting the lives
of Americans at risk by destroying the natural product industry precisely
as we face a global pandemic?
Sources for this story include:
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm186837.htm |
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| Happy Oyster... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:32 am |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:35:21 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
[quote]"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:76bpd5djg1kvvpgj85gqaic0j95hhm3bas at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:38:59 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:q19nd5l1co65082svnuvfu6q3k64d9uit1 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:04:23 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:v57nd5pkaltuaue7dc8155epbqtk8kj1fh at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:47:21 +0100, "O.pearl" <private at (no spam) iol.ie> wrote:
"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster at (no spam) ariplex.com> wrote in message news:it5nd5p1dkn9enima12qeertev8sf3j13u at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Except for the holes.
Flu Shot Permanently Disables Washington Redskins
cheerleader Desiree Jennings
That is bullshit.
That's the effect of the criminal quackery you push.
No. You - as usual - are not able to understand WHAT is happening.
Projection.
You were praising the rediculous "study" by Montagnier and
claimed the enclosure would work as a shield. But the point is: IT HAS HOLES!
Cite where it's stated that the enclosure has holes, you ridiculous quackpot.
Prove, that the enclose had no holes!
It's your ludicrous claim that it did. You're a moron. QED.
Me a moron?
QED.
[/quote]
You liar left out the important part of my post:
Me a moron? Well, well, stupid laymen (who even insist on their stupidity) are
absolutely clueless to high-frequency electrical effects. Even more stupid,
because in the drawing by Montagnier the cables are shown. ;O)
Life is weird at the left end of the IQ-scale. ;O)
You are deep in the quicksand. Very deep.
..
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Das Schrotgewehr Gottes
http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_gott.htm |
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