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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:15 am |
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Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Psychiatry is the new religion.
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:15 am |
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| Peter Schilte... |
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:15 am |
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On 25 sep, 19:15, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
[quote:43f2f812e9]Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Psychiatry is the new religion.
--www.destroypsychiatry.org
[/quote:43f2f812e9]
You assume that god exists. Do you have any proof for that
assumption?
So, how do you know "a", or "any" voice comes from god? You first have
to prove that god exists, second that "a", or "any" voice comes from
god.
Go ahead and present us proof.
Then we could discus whether or not people hearing voices, or Jesus,
or Moses, are schizophrenics or not.
Peter
"These people believe the souls of fried space aliens inhabit their
bodies and hold soup cans to get rid of them.
I should care what they think?"
- Valerie Emmanuel
http://www.scamofscientology.nl |
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| Honest Abe... |
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:10 pm |
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"DP" <dp at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote in message
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[quote:be3734f71c]Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
[/quote:be3734f71c]
And the diagnoses would probably be correct!
[quote:be3734f71c]Psychiatry is the new religion.
[/quote:be3734f71c]
Psychiatry is based on medical science, and is thus constantly evolving.
Yes, there have been abuses in psychiatry, but the same is true of
$cientology - and probably more so. $cientology is openly claimed to be a
"religion", but is really a profit motivated, brainwashing cult. Ironically,
the few good things in $cientology, such as dianetic psychotherapy, were
taken by con-man L. Ron Flubbard from the original work of psychologists
Freud and Korzybski.
Cult fanatics in glass houses should not be throwing stones! |
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| Peter Schilte... |
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:07 pm |
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On 26 sep, 03:37, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
[quote:f7e18f65c4]"Peter Schilte" <peterschi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 25 sep, 19:15, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Psychiatry is the new religion.
--www.destroypsychiatry.org
You assume that god exists. Do you have any proof for that
assumption?
So, how do you know "a", or "any" voice comes from god? You first have
to prove that god exists, second that "a", or "any" voice comes from
god.
Go ahead and present us proof.
Then we could discus whether or not people hearing voices, or Jesus,
or Moses, are schizophrenics or not.
Exactly Peter, where is the proof? According to Psychiatry these people are
schizophrenic. Don't you know how to read?
[/quote:f7e18f65c4]
Don't drift away from this topic, Ty. You started it, assuming Jesus
and Moses were hearing god's voice and therefor would be diagnosed
schizophrenic if they were alive today. So, as long as there isn't any
proof for the existence of god, the voices Jesus and Moses heard COULD
imply they were schizophrenic. Hearing voices that nobody else hears
is an important indication to be diagnosed with schizophrenia.
Do YOU hear voices in your head?
Peter
"You mocked up your own reactive mind, you mocked up your BTs and you
mocked up your past lives.
Those ARE the EPs (End Phenomenons) of scientology.
L. Ron Hubbard told you so. This is what you are paying for, in no
uncertain terms. Hubbard makes it very clear all the way "UP" the
bridge.
He even told you he was selling you a bridge."
- Ladybird
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| Mark Earnest... |
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:43 pm |
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"DP" <dp at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote in message
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[quote:ad6d20254e]Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Psychiatry is the new religion.
[/quote:ad6d20254e]
Every way of man could be considered a religion.
A religion is just a mode of thought, and these days is often
quite imperfect. |
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| DP... |
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:37 pm |
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"Peter Schilte" <peterschilte at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote:4bd2ce7d88]On 25 sep, 19:15, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Psychiatry is the new religion.
--www.destroypsychiatry.org
You assume that god exists. Do you have any proof for that
assumption?
So, how do you know "a", or "any" voice comes from god? You first have
to prove that god exists, second that "a", or "any" voice comes from
god.
Go ahead and present us proof.
Then we could discus whether or not people hearing voices, or Jesus,
or Moses, are schizophrenics or not.
[/quote:4bd2ce7d88]
Exactly Peter, where is the proof? According to Psychiatry these people are
schizophrenic. Don't you know how to read? |
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| DP... |
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:43 pm |
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"Honest Abe" <freespeech at (no spam) 4ever.net> wrote in message
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[quote:b0386ab419]"DP" <dp at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote in message
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Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
And the diagnoses would probably be correct!
Psychiatry is the new religion.
Psychiatry is based on medical science, and is thus constantly evolving.
Yes, there have been abuses in psychiatry, but the same is true of
$cientology - and probably more so. $cientology is openly claimed to be a
"religion", but is really a profit motivated, brainwashing cult.
Ironically, the few good things in $cientology, such as dianetic
psychotherapy, were taken by con-man L. Ron Flubbard from the original
work of psychologists Freud and Korzybski.
Cult fanatics in glass houses should not be throwing stones!
Why do you keep writing Scientology with a $ sign...you think they are after[/quote:b0386ab419]
money. BUT I wrote it would be more PROFITABLE to be PRO psychiatry. |
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| Roger Larsson... |
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:14 pm |
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On 25 Sep, 19:15, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
[quote:1a3bb89639]Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Psychiatry is the new religion.
--www.destroypsychiatry.org
[/quote:1a3bb89639]
Traitors revealing criminals plans aren't traitors to victims of
crime.
Scientologists keeping scientology's plans secret are traitors to
victims of crime, including themselves. |
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| Honest Abe... |
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:54 am |
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"DP" <dp at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote in message
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[quote:5bd9fd361e]"Honest Abe" <freespeech at (no spam) 4ever.net> wrote in message
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"DP" <dp at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote in message
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Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
And the diagnoses would probably be correct!
Psychiatry is the new religion.
Psychiatry is based on medical science, and is thus constantly evolving.
Yes, there have been abuses in psychiatry, but the same is true of
$cientology - and probably more so. $cientology is openly claimed to be a
"religion", but is really a profit motivated, brainwashing cult.
Ironically, the few good things in $cientology, such as dianetic
psychotherapy, were taken by con-man L. Ron Flubbard from the original
work of psychologists Freud and Korzybski.
Cult fanatics in glass houses should not be throwing stones!
Why do you keep writing Scientology with a $ sign...you think they are
after money. BUT I wrote it would be more PROFITABLE to be PRO psychiatry.
[/quote:5bd9fd361e]
L. Ron Hubbard was a megalomaniac - he was a would-be god in the "religion
angle" for profit and power above all else. If he had any altruistic motives
for coming up with dianetics, they did not last long at all! |
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| DP... |
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:05 pm |
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www.destroypsychiatry.org
"Peter Schilte" <peterschilte at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote:95dfbfe8b5]On 26 sep, 03:37, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
"Peter Schilte" <peterschi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 25 sep, 19:15, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Psychiatry is the new religion.
--www.destroypsychiatry.org
You assume that god exists. Do you have any proof for that
assumption?
So, how do you know "a", or "any" voice comes from god? You first have
to prove that god exists, second that "a", or "any" voice comes from
god.
Go ahead and present us proof.
Then we could discus whether or not people hearing voices, or Jesus,
or Moses, are schizophrenics or not.
Exactly Peter, where is the proof? According to Psychiatry these people
are
schizophrenic. Don't you know how to read?
Don't drift away from this topic, Ty. You started it, assuming Jesus
and Moses were hearing god's voice and therefor would be diagnosed
schizophrenic if they were alive today. So, as long as there isn't any
proof for the existence of god, the voices Jesus and Moses heard COULD
imply they were schizophrenic. Hearing voices that nobody else hears
is an important indication to be diagnosed with schizophrenia.
Do YOU hear voices in your head?
Exactly Peter, where is the proof? According to Psychiatry these people are[/quote:95dfbfe8b5]
schizophrenic. Don't you know how to read? I'm repeating this just to prove
that you do not know what your reading. |
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| DP... |
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:07 pm |
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"Honest Abe" <freespeech at (no spam) 4ever.net> wrote in message
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[quote:ee2f1ceff4]"DP" <dp at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote in message
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Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
And the diagnoses would probably be correct!
Psychiatry is the new religion.
Psychiatry is based on medical science, and is thus constantly evolving.
Yes, there have been abuses in psychiatry, but the same is true of
$cientology - and probably more so. $cientology is openly claimed to be
a "religion", but is really a profit motivated, brainwashing cult.
Ironically, the few good things in $cientology, such as dianetic
psychotherapy, were taken by con-man L. Ron Flubbard from the original
work of psychologists Freud and Korzybski.
Cult fanatics in glass houses should not be throwing stones!
Why do you keep writing Scientology with a $ sign...you think they are
after money. BUT I wrote it would be more PROFITABLE to be PRO
psychiatry.
L. Ron Hubbard was a megalomaniac - he was a would-be god in the "religion
angle" for profit and power above all else. If he had any altruistic
motives for coming up with dianetics, they did not last long at all!
So if someone was in it for profit, being PRO psychiatry would be easier as[/quote:ee2f1ceff4]
they won't have to waste resources on being AGAINST psychiatry.
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| Honest Abe... |
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:23 am |
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Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
And the diagnoses would probably be correct!
Psychiatry is the new religion.
Psychiatry is based on medical science, and is thus constantly
evolving. Yes, there have been abuses in psychiatry, but the same is
true of $cientology - and probably more so. $cientology is openly
claimed to be a "religion", but is really a profit motivated,
brainwashing cult. Ironically, the few good things in $cientology, such
as dianetic psychotherapy, were taken by con-man L. Ron Flubbard from
the original work of psychologists Freud and Korzybski.
Cult fanatics in glass houses should not be throwing stones!
Why do you keep writing Scientology with a $ sign...you think they are
after money. BUT I wrote it would be more PROFITABLE to be PRO
psychiatry.
L. Ron Hubbard was a megalomaniac - he was a would-be god in the
"religion angle" for profit and power above all else. If he had any
altruistic motives for coming up with dianetics, they did not last long
at all!
So if someone was in it for profit, being PRO psychiatry would be easier
as they won't have to waste resources on being AGAINST psychiatry.
[/quote:c006d23db7]
Profit was high on Hubbard's agenda, but so was the destruction of
psychiatry. I have read various reasons for this, among which are that
psychiatrists once diagnosed Hubbard as mentally ill (credible to me), but
the most significant reason is the fact that Hubbard sought to monopolize
the mental health field, and psychiatry was his biggest and best established
competitor. |
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Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
And the diagnoses would probably be correct!
Psychiatry is the new religion.
Psychiatry is based on medical science, and is thus constantly
evolving. Yes, there have been abuses in psychiatry, but the same is
true of $cientology - and probably more so. $cientology is openly
claimed to be a "religion", but is really a profit motivated,
brainwashing cult. Ironically, the few good things in $cientology,
such as dianetic psychotherapy, were taken by con-man L. Ron Flubbard
from the original work of psychologists Freud and Korzybski.
Cult fanatics in glass houses should not be throwing stones!
Why do you keep writing Scientology with a $ sign...you think they are
after money. BUT I wrote it would be more PROFITABLE to be PRO
psychiatry.
L. Ron Hubbard was a megalomaniac - he was a would-be god in the
"religion angle" for profit and power above all else. If he had any
altruistic motives for coming up with dianetics, they did not last long
at all!
So if someone was in it for profit, being PRO psychiatry would be easier
as they won't have to waste resources on being AGAINST psychiatry.
Profit was high on Hubbard's agenda, but so was the destruction of
psychiatry. I have read various reasons for this, among which are that
psychiatrists once diagnosed Hubbard as mentally ill (credible to me), but
the most significant reason is the fact that Hubbard sought to monopolize
the mental health field, and psychiatry was his biggest and best
established competitor.
I'm not much into religion. As far as I know, when someone has a mental[/quote:ed40ff4d98]
diagnosis, it goes to psychiatry not Scientology.
There is no governmental program that refer people to Scientology for mental
illness.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:34 pm |
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On Sep 27, 10:07 am, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
[quote:14410499f8]"Honest Abe" <freespe... at (no spam) 4ever.net> wrote in message
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Jesus would be diagnosed schizohprenic today.
Moses would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
Any "voice" from God would be diagnosed schizophrenic today.
And the diagnoses would probably be correct!
Psychiatry is the new religion.
Psychiatry is based on medical science, and is thus constantly evolving.
Yes, there have been abuses in psychiatry, but the same is true of
$cientology - and probably more so. $cientology is openly claimed to be
a "religion", but is really a profit motivated, brainwashing cult.
Ironically, the few good things in $cientology, such as dianetic
psychotherapy, were taken by con-man L. Ron Flubbard from the original
work of psychologists Freud and Korzybski.
Cult fanatics in glass houses should not be throwing stones!
Why do you keep writing Scientology with a $ sign...you think they are
after money. BUT I wrote it would be more PROFITABLE to be PRO
psychiatry.
L. Ron Hubbard was a megalomaniac - he was a would-be god in the "religion
angle" for profit and power above all else. If he had any altruistic
motives for coming up with dianetics, they did not last long at all!
So if someone was in it for profit, being PRO psychiatry would be easier as
they won't have to waste resources on being AGAINST psychiatry.
--www.destroypsychiatry.org
[/quote:14410499f8]
You know from what I can tell, Scientology is no more a scam than any
other religion. The only reason why people don't see it as ligit is
because it isn't_old_. If you look at it on its merits, it is just as
much a load of nonsense as all the others. |
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