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[quote:83190da964]"Piet de Arcilla" <dearcilla at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 26, 9:15 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Sep, 07:47, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 1:43 pm, Barbara loves Marty
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On Sep 24, 9:32 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Sep, 09:24, Rufus <saintinoure... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 24, 2:40 pm, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
On 24 Sep, 07:29, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 6:45 pm, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
"Modern psychiatry is a medical hoax," said Mike Adams,
author of Natural
Health Solutions and the Conspiracy to Keep You From Knowing
About Them.
"The financial success of the psychiatric industry is almost
entirely based
on diagnosing people with fictitious disorders, then
prescribing overpriced,
patented synthetic chemicals to treat those disorders. There
is no
scientific merit whatsoever to most of what goes on in
psychiatry today.
Children are being routinely exploided by drug companies to
generate
profits, not health."
pot, meet kettle. Like people aren't making profits from bogus
"natural remedies".
The difference is that psychiatry is government supported, and
thus
tax money is spent there. This creates a totally different
situation.
How dare you compare that with natural methods...
RR
So you don't have a problem with the word bogus being applied,
just
where the money comes from then. 
Incorrect conclusion. My response did not imply that. However,
government supported bogus is pretty bad, ain't that so?
RR- Hide quoted text -
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Original Dianetics shed the light on that psychiatry is a hoax. And
there is nothing natural about psychiatry, indeed. It is a chemical/
electrical cult who can't deal with critic. People who disagree with
psychs are deliberately wrongfully labeled by p$ychs with a mental
illness.
You're making the mistake of focusing on 'gray' and thereby deciding
that black and white don't exist or are indistinguishable.
Sorry, doesn't make sense...
Just because sometimes a diagnosis is subjective because people fall
in a gray area doesn't mean that other cases aren't clear cut.
You're also
making the mistake of dismissing facts based on the inadequacies of
the accepted theory in explaining those facts.
And at that you are stuck with theorizing instead of using and working
with that which has been observed and is established with its
practice. The subject of Scientology/Dianetics is a practical
philosophy and thus does not require this.
You can't deny a fact by attacking a theory. Creationists try this all
the time, and they don't understand why it doesn't make sense. People
observe phenomena like gravity, evolution, and mental illness,
regardless of their theories.
There are plenty of people whose diagnosis is uncertain and
subjective, and there is little true knowledge of what mental illness
is.
That knowledge exists. It is however the theory of psychiatry that is
making a mess of it all. They send out 'cured' patients and time after
time they return after having committed the same crime. This is a
recorded fact. Also they wish to determine if some person that
committed a crime is suffering from some mental illness in cases where
it is evident that the person would be mentally disturbed. check your
newspapers...
Well, mental illness is orthogonal to being a criminal. And there are
no cures, because no one knows the root causes.
-----------
That is exactly the point. Nobody knows the cause yet they claim to have the
medication to treat it. Isn't it strange? The belief of mine is that it is
man made that is why we do not KNOW the root cause. It is a deception.
So if we don't know the cause for something we can observe consistently[/quote:83190da964]
it might as well not exist? give me a break.
We are constantly learning what mental illness is, and what causes it.
In the old days they had to cut your head open to see what was up with
your brain.. now they use less invasive methods like MRI, biochemical
tests and DNA profiling. Medication is only used to treat mental
illness, not cure it.
The truth is there is still a lot of un-answered questions about the
brain. We know what it does, what it is capable of, how damage to it can
affect us and the principles upon which it works. We don't really
understand all of this meshes together to create consciousness though.
Mental illness is not a deception, just take post traumatic stress for
example.
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| DP... |
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On Sep 26, 9:15 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Sep, 07:47, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 1:43 pm, Barbara loves Marty
barbaralovesmarty... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 24, 9:32 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Sep, 09:24, Rufus <saintinoure... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 24, 2:40 pm, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
On 24 Sep, 07:29, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 6:45 pm, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
"Modern psychiatry is a medical hoax," said Mike Adams,
author of Natural
Health Solutions and the Conspiracy to Keep You From Knowing
About Them.
"The financial success of the psychiatric industry is almost
entirely based
on diagnosing people with fictitious disorders, then
prescribing overpriced,
patented synthetic chemicals to treat those disorders. There
is no
scientific merit whatsoever to most of what goes on in
psychiatry today.
Children are being routinely exploided by drug companies to
generate
profits, not health."
pot, meet kettle. Like people aren't making profits from bogus
"natural remedies".
The difference is that psychiatry is government supported, and
thus
tax money is spent there. This creates a totally different
situation.
How dare you compare that with natural methods...
RR
So you don't have a problem with the word bogus being applied,
just
where the money comes from then.
Incorrect conclusion. My response did not imply that. However,
government supported bogus is pretty bad, ain't that so?
RR- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Original Dianetics shed the light on that psychiatry is a hoax. And
there is nothing natural about psychiatry, indeed. It is a chemical/
electrical cult who can't deal with critic. People who disagree with
psychs are deliberately wrongfully labeled by p$ychs with a mental
illness.
You're making the mistake of focusing on 'gray' and thereby deciding
that black and white don't exist or are indistinguishable.
Sorry, doesn't make sense...
Just because sometimes a diagnosis is subjective because people fall
in a gray area doesn't mean that other cases aren't clear cut.
You're also
making the mistake of dismissing facts based on the inadequacies of
the accepted theory in explaining those facts.
And at that you are stuck with theorizing instead of using and working
with that which has been observed and is established with its
practice. The subject of Scientology/Dianetics is a practical
philosophy and thus does not require this.
You can't deny a fact by attacking a theory. Creationists try this all
the time, and they don't understand why it doesn't make sense. People
observe phenomena like gravity, evolution, and mental illness,
regardless of their theories.
There are plenty of people whose diagnosis is uncertain and
subjective, and there is little true knowledge of what mental illness
is.
That knowledge exists. It is however the theory of psychiatry that is
making a mess of it all. They send out 'cured' patients and time after
time they return after having committed the same crime. This is a
recorded fact. Also they wish to determine if some person that
committed a crime is suffering from some mental illness in cases where
it is evident that the person would be mentally disturbed. check your
newspapers...
Well, mental illness is orthogonal to being a criminal. And there are
no cures, because no one knows the root causes.
-----------
That is exactly the point. Nobody knows the cause yet they claim to have
the
medication to treat it. Isn't it strange? The belief of mine is that it
is
man made that is why we do not KNOW the root cause. It is a deception.
So if we don't know the cause for something we can observe consistently
it might as well not exist? give me a break.
Oh no, the symptoms of mental illness is REAL but the cause is man made.[/quote:0ec99b34a1] |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:58 pm |
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On Sep 26, 9:15 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Sep, 07:47, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 1:43 pm, Barbara loves Marty
barbaralovesmarty... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 24, 9:32 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Sep, 09:24, Rufus <saintinoure... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 24, 2:40 pm, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
On 24 Sep, 07:29, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 6:45 pm, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
"Modern psychiatry is a medical hoax," said Mike Adams,
author of Natural
Health Solutions and the Conspiracy to Keep You From Knowing
About Them.
"The financial success of the psychiatric industry is almost
entirely based
on diagnosing people with fictitious disorders, then
prescribing overpriced,
patented synthetic chemicals to treat those disorders. There
is no
scientific merit whatsoever to most of what goes on in
psychiatry today.
Children are being routinely exploided by drug companies to
generate
profits, not health."
pot, meet kettle. Like people aren't making profits from bogus
"natural remedies".
The difference is that psychiatry is government supported, and
thus
tax money is spent there. This creates a totally different
situation.
How dare you compare that with natural methods...
RR
So you don't have a problem with the word bogus being applied,
just
where the money comes from then.
Incorrect conclusion. My response did not imply that. However,
government supported bogus is pretty bad, ain't that so?
RR- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Original Dianetics shed the light on that psychiatry is a hoax. And
there is nothing natural about psychiatry, indeed. It is a chemical/
electrical cult who can't deal with critic. People who disagree with
psychs are deliberately wrongfully labeled by p$ychs with a mental
illness.
You're making the mistake of focusing on 'gray' and thereby deciding
that black and white don't exist or are indistinguishable.
Sorry, doesn't make sense...
Just because sometimes a diagnosis is subjective because people fall
in a gray area doesn't mean that other cases aren't clear cut.
You're also
making the mistake of dismissing facts based on the inadequacies of
the accepted theory in explaining those facts.
And at that you are stuck with theorizing instead of using and working
with that which has been observed and is established with its
practice. The subject of Scientology/Dianetics is a practical
philosophy and thus does not require this.
You can't deny a fact by attacking a theory. Creationists try this all
the time, and they don't understand why it doesn't make sense. People
observe phenomena like gravity, evolution, and mental illness,
regardless of their theories.
There are plenty of people whose diagnosis is uncertain and
subjective, and there is little true knowledge of what mental illness
is.
That knowledge exists. It is however the theory of psychiatry that is
making a mess of it all. They send out 'cured' patients and time after
time they return after having committed the same crime. This is a
recorded fact. Also they wish to determine if some person that
committed a crime is suffering from some mental illness in cases where
it is evident that the person would be mentally disturbed. check your
newspapers...
Well, mental illness is orthogonal to being a criminal. And there are
no cures, because no one knows the root causes.
-----------
That is exactly the point. Nobody knows the cause yet they claim to have
the
medication to treat it. Isn't it strange? The belief of mine is that it
is
man made that is why we do not KNOW the root cause. It is a deception.
So if we don't know the cause for something we can observe consistently
it might as well not exist? give me a break.
Oh no, the symptoms of mental illness is REAL but the cause is man made.
Wars are man made, post traumatic stress can be caused these kinds of[/quote:f01ff6c7b9]
events, but really any stressful near death experience can cause post
traumatic stress, hence the name. Is that what you mean by man made?
with other illnesses like Bipolar and Schizophrenia evidence suggests
that there is in fact a genetic link, and may be passed on from parent
to the child or there may be a genetic anomaly which is responsible.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12573388
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14989406
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3595169
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On Sep 26, 9:15 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Sep, 07:47, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 1:43 pm, Barbara loves Marty
barbaralovesmarty... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 24, 9:32 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Sep, 09:24, Rufus <saintinoure... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 24, 2:40 pm, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
On 24 Sep, 07:29, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 6:45 pm, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
"Modern psychiatry is a medical hoax," said Mike Adams,
author of Natural
Health Solutions and the Conspiracy to Keep You From Knowing
About Them.
"The financial success of the psychiatric industry is almost
entirely based
on diagnosing people with fictitious disorders, then
prescribing overpriced,
patented synthetic chemicals to treat those disorders. There
is no
scientific merit whatsoever to most of what goes on in
psychiatry today.
Children are being routinely exploided by drug companies to
generate
profits, not health."
pot, meet kettle. Like people aren't making profits from bogus
"natural remedies".
The difference is that psychiatry is government supported, and
thus
tax money is spent there. This creates a totally different
situation.
How dare you compare that with natural methods...
RR
So you don't have a problem with the word bogus being applied,
just
where the money comes from then.
Incorrect conclusion. My response did not imply that. However,
government supported bogus is pretty bad, ain't that so?
RR- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Original Dianetics shed the light on that psychiatry is a hoax. And
there is nothing natural about psychiatry, indeed. It is a chemical/
electrical cult who can't deal with critic. People who disagree with
psychs are deliberately wrongfully labeled by p$ychs with a mental
illness.
You're making the mistake of focusing on 'gray' and thereby deciding
that black and white don't exist or are indistinguishable.
Sorry, doesn't make sense...
Just because sometimes a diagnosis is subjective because people fall
in a gray area doesn't mean that other cases aren't clear cut.
You're also
making the mistake of dismissing facts based on the inadequacies of
the accepted theory in explaining those facts.
And at that you are stuck with theorizing instead of using and working
with that which has been observed and is established with its
practice. The subject of Scientology/Dianetics is a practical
philosophy and thus does not require this.
You can't deny a fact by attacking a theory. Creationists try this all
the time, and they don't understand why it doesn't make sense. People
observe phenomena like gravity, evolution, and mental illness,
regardless of their theories.
There are plenty of people whose diagnosis is uncertain and
subjective, and there is little true knowledge of what mental illness
is.
That knowledge exists. It is however the theory of psychiatry that is
making a mess of it all. They send out 'cured' patients and time after
time they return after having committed the same crime. This is a
recorded fact. Also they wish to determine if some person that
committed a crime is suffering from some mental illness in cases where
it is evident that the person would be mentally disturbed. check your
newspapers...
Well, mental illness is orthogonal to being a criminal. And there are
no cures, because no one knows the root causes.
-----------
That is exactly the point. Nobody knows the cause yet they claim to
have
the
medication to treat it. Isn't it strange? The belief of mine is that it
is
man made that is why we do not KNOW the root cause. It is a deception.
So if we don't know the cause for something we can observe consistently
it might as well not exist? give me a break.
Oh no, the symptoms of mental illness is REAL but the cause is man made.
Wars are man made, post traumatic stress can be caused these kinds of
events, but really any stressful near death experience can cause post
traumatic stress, hence the name. Is that what you mean by man made?
with other illnesses like Bipolar and Schizophrenia evidence suggests
that there is in fact a genetic link, and may be passed on from parent
to the child or there may be a genetic anomaly which is responsible.
So you believe there is a genetic link? Then what is the specific genetic?[/quote:4bcd3c617a]
Do all who suffer from the illness have the genetic? Where is the proof. I
wrote about this and I do not believe it is genetic.
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[quote:2776d558da]It's all the interface of genetics with environment, fifty fifty.
The gene found for schizophrenia is DISC1, but, this knowledge threatens
the dopamine blocker industry, so that now THEY are trying to cover it
up.
[/quote:2776d558da]
The problem with the genetic theory for schizophrenia is this. My parent
doesn't have the illness why should I have it?
People can be cured of the illness without taking medication so what
happened to it being genetic?
If the greedy pharma industry WANT to push genetic as a caused, then why not
make every PERSON would has the genetic take their medication. It would make
them more money.
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On Sep 26, 9:15 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Sep, 07:47, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 1:43 pm, Barbara loves Marty
barbaralovesmarty... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 24, 9:32 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Sep, 09:24, Rufus <saintinoure... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 24, 2:40 pm, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
On 24 Sep, 07:29, Piet de Arcilla <dearci... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 6:45 pm, "DP" <d... at (no spam) destroypsychiatry.org> wrote:
"Modern psychiatry is a medical hoax," said Mike Adams,
author of Natural
Health Solutions and the Conspiracy to Keep You From Knowing
About Them.
"The financial success of the psychiatric industry is almost
entirely based
on diagnosing people with fictitious disorders, then
prescribing overpriced,
patented synthetic chemicals to treat those disorders. There
is no
scientific merit whatsoever to most of what goes on in
psychiatry today.
Children are being routinely exploided by drug companies to
generate
profits, not health."
pot, meet kettle. Like people aren't making profits from bogus
"natural remedies".
The difference is that psychiatry is government supported, and
thus
tax money is spent there. This creates a totally different
situation.
How dare you compare that with natural methods...
RR
So you don't have a problem with the word bogus being applied,
just
where the money comes from then.
Incorrect conclusion. My response did not imply that. However,
government supported bogus is pretty bad, ain't that so?
RR- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Original Dianetics shed the light on that psychiatry is a hoax. And
there is nothing natural about psychiatry, indeed. It is a chemical/
electrical cult who can't deal with critic. People who disagree with
psychs are deliberately wrongfully labeled by p$ychs with a mental
illness.
You're making the mistake of focusing on 'gray' and thereby deciding
that black and white don't exist or are indistinguishable.
Sorry, doesn't make sense...
Just because sometimes a diagnosis is subjective because people fall
in a gray area doesn't mean that other cases aren't clear cut.
You're also
making the mistake of dismissing facts based on the inadequacies of
the accepted theory in explaining those facts.
And at that you are stuck with theorizing instead of using and working
with that which has been observed and is established with its
practice. The subject of Scientology/Dianetics is a practical
philosophy and thus does not require this.
You can't deny a fact by attacking a theory. Creationists try this all
the time, and they don't understand why it doesn't make sense. People
observe phenomena like gravity, evolution, and mental illness,
regardless of their theories.
There are plenty of people whose diagnosis is uncertain and
subjective, and there is little true knowledge of what mental illness
is.
That knowledge exists. It is however the theory of psychiatry that is
making a mess of it all. They send out 'cured' patients and time after
time they return after having committed the same crime. This is a
recorded fact. Also they wish to determine if some person that
committed a crime is suffering from some mental illness in cases where
it is evident that the person would be mentally disturbed. check your
newspapers...
Well, mental illness is orthogonal to being a criminal. And there are
no cures, because no one knows the root causes.
-----------
That is exactly the point. Nobody knows the cause yet they claim to
have
the
medication to treat it. Isn't it strange? The belief of mine is that it
is
man made that is why we do not KNOW the root cause. It is a deception.
So if we don't know the cause for something we can observe consistently
it might as well not exist? give me a break.
Oh no, the symptoms of mental illness is REAL but the cause is man made.
Wars are man made, post traumatic stress can be caused these kinds of
events, but really any stressful near death experience can cause post
traumatic stress, hence the name. Is that what you mean by man made?
with other illnesses like Bipolar and Schizophrenia evidence suggests
that there is in fact a genetic link, and may be passed on from parent
to the child or there may be a genetic anomaly which is responsible.
So you believe there is a genetic link? Then what is the specific genetic?
Do all who suffer from the illness have the genetic? Where is the proof. I
wrote about this and I do not believe it is genetic.
Please read the links you conveniently snipped from my previous message.[/quote:6895b9ee34]
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| Evil's Toy... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:23 am |
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Mike Thomas wrote:
[quote:0dd3943dc2]Please read the links you conveniently snipped from my previous message.
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One of ways to achieve altered state of consciousness is stress
or life threatening situations.
Did you ever heard for shaman death initiations.
They deliberatly drink poison in order to achieve
higher state of consciousness...
Brain has center for paranormal activities you know?
Problem is that when you achieve alternate state
of consciousness you can easily become insane ;)
But this is individual. Every occult school knows
that.
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| Mike Thomas... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:35 am |
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[quote:444f05d43e]"Miguel Alberto" <gellie618 at (no spam) webtv.net> wrote in message
news:10472-4AC5D84B-1275 at (no spam) storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net...
It's all the interface of genetics with environment, fifty fifty.
The gene found for schizophrenia is DISC1, but, this knowledge threatens
the dopamine blocker industry, so that now THEY are trying to cover it
up.
The problem with the genetic theory for schizophrenia is this. My parent
doesn't have the illness why should I have it?
Because of a DNA mutation anomaly during development, or conception. I[/quote:444f05d43e]
don't have red hair why should my mother?
[quote:444f05d43e]People can be cured of the illness without taking medication so what
happened to it being genetic?
Only in acute cases can the person MANAGE their condition without any[/quote:444f05d43e]
medication, I myself am in this category, I manage to handle my
condition through other means - many other people who are afflicted with
bipolar are not so lucky, like my mother, grandmother and sister.
[quote:444f05d43e]If the greedy pharma industry WANT to push genetic as a caused, then why not
make every PERSON would has the genetic take their medication. It would make
them more money.
I think it's a sad case that some doctors are so quick to prescribe a[/quote:444f05d43e]
pill that their patient doesn't need - I've seen this mostly from GP's.
Now I understand about a patients trust with a doctor, but at some point
the patient becomes the final person to enforce their own treatment,
second opinions have been around forever and most people encourage them
if you disagree with what the someone says (in a lot of cases people
wont disagree).
The fact that some doctors prescribe drugs for their own benefit should
not tarnish the entire industry, perhaps only doctors and organizations
that are known to do this, and can be proven.
Especially since it has be proven (even independently) that these forms
of treatment actually help a lot of people. If you say otherwise the
onus is on you to prove it and not just make extravagant claims like
"modern psychiatry is a medical hoax".
[quote:444f05d43e]
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| Evil's Toy... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:14 am |
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Mike Thomas wrote:
[quote:e3f9a9fd29]Only in acute cases can the person MANAGE their condition without any
medication, I myself am in this category, I manage to handle my
condition through other means - many other people who are afflicted with
bipolar are not so lucky, like my mother, grandmother and sister.
[/quote:e3f9a9fd29]
I saw in nuthouse strong bipolar bully crying like a baby under
drugs 
Let me home , let me home, I can't stand it more...
Lithium is wonder drug!
Psychic torture with drugs mixed with physical torture that are
nuthouses in Serbia!
I used to untie mental patients from their beds, I was fakir!
Yeah, give me more baby!
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| Mike Thomas... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:31 am |
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Evil's Toy wrote:
[quote:089b18c725]Mike Thomas wrote:
Only in acute cases can the person MANAGE their condition without any
medication, I myself am in this category, I manage to handle my
condition through other means - many other people who are afflicted with
bipolar are not so lucky, like my mother, grandmother and sister.
I saw in nuthouse strong bipolar bully crying like a baby under
drugs
Let me home , let me home, I can't stand it more...
Lithium is wonder drug!
Psychic torture with drugs mixed with physical torture that are
nuthouses in Serbia!
I used to untie mental patients from their beds, I was fakir!
Yeah, give me more baby!
Greets!
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I think you are a troll, but never the less;[/quote:089b18c725]
This is a case of psychiatric abuse and you should report it.
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| Evil's Toy... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:41 am |
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Mike Thomas wrote:
[quote:6a59fb07cf]I think you are a troll, but never the less;
This is a case of psychiatric abuse and you should report it.
Im not troll. Everybody on alt support schizophrenia knows me[/quote:6a59fb07cf]
for years!
Whom to report? When they put me in nuthouse they stole
everything I had in my pockets including cigarretes!
Shrinks are people like chief of concentration camp types...
I don;t have experience with western institutions though...
My uncle was hospitalized and after that he commited
suicide...He hanged himslef in closet...
I think he was depressive...
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| Mike Thomas... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:43 am |
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[quote:f1a31b9268]Mike Thomas wrote:
Please read the links you conveniently snipped from my previous message.
One of ways to achieve altered state of consciousness is stress
or life threatening situations.
Did you ever heard for shaman death initiations.
They deliberatly drink poison in order to achieve
higher state of consciousness...
Ayahuasca, magic mushrooms, peyote, morning glory seeds, hawiian baby[/quote:f1a31b9268]
wood rose seeds - pick your poison
[quote:f1a31b9268]Brain has center for paranormal activities you know?
Please explain...
Problem is that when you achieve alternate state
of consciousness you can easily become insane
Yeah, it's commonly referred to as "getting stuck in a trip" Lucky in[/quote:f1a31b9268]
most cases is just gets less intense as the body processes whatever drug
was ingested. In some cases it's what the person sees that sends them
crazy for good. I guess a visit to room 101 wouldn't do anyone any good.
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/21.html
[quote:f1a31b9268]
But this is individual. Every occult school knows
that.
Greets!
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[/quote:f1a31b9268]
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| Evil's Toy... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:04 am |
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Mike Thomas wrote:
[quote:b70325630d]Evil's Toy wrote:
Mike Thomas wrote:
Brain has center for paranormal activities you know?
Please explain...
[/quote:b70325630d]
I met a guy who was dead two days under water with broken
neck. (jumped into river on his head and broked neck on rock)
They picked him up and returned him to life.
He acquired paranormal abilities.
Manipulations with energy fields and clairvoyance..
His name is Petar Cikaric and lives near town Krusevac...
Brother of my wife survived blast of NATO bomb
of Strazevica hill. He *knew one minute* before
explosion that it will happen.
He said nature told him
There are supernatural powers but human
brain can;t detect it even when they draw
themsleves before their eyes
Father of my wife experienced lightning from
chandelier into his mobile phone and
phone didn;t blew up neither he
He said " strange, device continued
to work like nothing happened"
Once when I was in altered state I dreamed
about some entities attacked me,
when I woke up *whole building*
5 floors was crazy and loud.
I thought that Im hallucinating but during
the day my neighbour Katarina
told me "what happened last night?Whole
building was awake and didn't sleep"
Etc there is *lot more*.
I guess a visit to room 101 wouldn't do anyone any good.
[quote:b70325630d]
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/21.html
[/quote:b70325630d]
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:10 am |
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Evil's Toy wrote:
[quote:3a7df9b46b]Mike Thomas wrote:
I think you are a troll, but never the less;
This is a case of psychiatric abuse and you should report it.
Im not troll. Everybody on alt support schizophrenia knows me
for years!
Right.
Whom to report? When they put me in nuthouse they stole
everything I had in my pockets including cigarretes!
I don't know the whole story, but I thought you had _seen_ someone who[/quote:3a7df9b46b]
was 'crying like a baby[...]' My apologies.
[quote:3a7df9b46b]
Shrinks are people like chief of concentration camp types...
Maybe in your case.
I don;t have experience with western institutions though...
I don't either - other than the time my mum was in one for a few months[/quote:3a7df9b46b]
in 2007.
[quote:3a7df9b46b]
My uncle was hospitalized and after that he commited
suicide...He hanged himslef in closet...
I think he was depressive...
A very sad situation, I'm sorry to hear of this disaster.
Greets!
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[/quote:3a7df9b46b]
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