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You are violating the San Diego Municipal Code, Edmond:
Section 57.10 -- Fortune Telling, Etc., Advertising -- Prohibited
It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign, circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or friendship or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives, lost relatives or friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or psychic powers, facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology, psychometry, spirits, mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, or other craft, science, cards, talismans, charms, potions, magnetism or magnetized articles or substances, Oriental mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or numerology, or to engage in or carry on any business the advertisement of which is prohibited in this Section and Subsections.
History:
(Incorp. 1-22-52 by O-5046 N.S., contained in O-574 N.S. adopted 12-28-34.) |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:25 am |
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On Sep 22, 12:05 pm, Anonymous <cri... at (no spam) ecn.org> wrote:
[quote:df388bec1e] You are violating the San Diego Municipal Code, Edmond:
Section 57.10 -- Fortune Telling, Etc., Advertising -- Prohibited
It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign, circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or friendship or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives, lost relatives or friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or psychic powers, facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology, psychometry, spirits, mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, or other craft, science, cards, talismans, charms, potions, magnetism or magnetized articles or substances, Oriental mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or numerology, or to engage in or carry on any business the advertisement of which is prohibited in this Section and Subsections.
History:
(Incorp. 1-22-52 by O-5046 N.S., contained in O-574 N.S. adopted 12-28-34.)
[/quote:df388bec1e]
I hereby order you with my great and psychic powers to stomp your feet
and cry even harder!!! Or I will magnetize your feet to the floor!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaah!!!!
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
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| A B... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:32 pm |
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" It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign,
circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other
publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to
find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or silver
or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or friendship
or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives, lost relatives or
friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or psychic powers,
facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology, psychometry, spirits,
mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, or other
craft, science, talismans, charms, potions, magnetism or magnetized articles
or substances, Oriental mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or
numerology, or to engage in or carry on any business the advertisement of
which is prohibited in this Section and Subsections."
Blimey, what a load of legal blether.
I noticed a funny thing:
"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise... to locate
oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural product... by
means of... [any] other craft or science... or to engage in or carry on any
business the advertisement of which is prohibited in this Section and
Subsections."
This seems to prohibit locating any kind of mineral by any means at all, at
least in the San Diego area. Does anyone know how they'd get out of that
one?
A. B. |
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:17 pm |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:32:06 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a>
wrote:
[quote:13af499c66]" It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign,
circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other
publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to
find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or silver
or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or friendship
or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives, lost relatives or
friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or psychic powers,
facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology, psychometry, spirits,
mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, or other
craft, science, talismans, charms, potions, magnetism or magnetized articles
or substances, Oriental mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or
numerology, or to engage in or carry on any business the advertisement of
which is prohibited in this Section and Subsections."
Blimey, what a load of legal blether.
[/quote:13af499c66]
That's the current California law which is enforce only as a last
resort.
[quote:13af499c66]I noticed a funny thing:
"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise... to locate
oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural product... by
means of... [any] other craft or science... or to engage in or carry on any
business the advertisement of which is prohibited in this Section and
Subsections."
This seems to prohibit locating any kind of mineral by any means at all, at
least in the San Diego area. Does anyone know how they'd get out of that
one?
[/quote:13af499c66]
It actually stopped any sort of "locating" which refers to dousing,
or magical means of location except for going out and looking.
There is a court case in the Highest California State court which
found that Astrology, when and only when, practiced as a organized
religious rite to be allowed under the US 1st Amendment to the
Constitution. It did not set aside or declare the law or ordinance
unconstitutional, as Edmond and other Astrologers would have you
think.
--
Ak'toh'di |
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| Silveen... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:13 am |
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:o22lb5df68e928euemrk8rgvdg2m224jpa at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote:d42dfb727e]On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:32:06 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a
wrote:
" It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign,
circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other
publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to
find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or
silver
or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or
friendship
or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives, lost relatives
or
friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or psychic powers,
facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology, psychometry, spirits,
mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, or other
craft, science, talismans, charms, potions, magnetism or magnetized
articles
or substances, Oriental mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or
numerology, or to engage in or carry on any business the advertisement of
which is prohibited in this Section and Subsections."
Blimey, what a load of legal blether.
That's the current California law which is enforce only as a last
resort.
I noticed a funny thing:
"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise... to locate
oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural product... by
means of... [any] other craft or science... or to engage in or carry on
any
business the advertisement of which is prohibited in this Section and
Subsections."
This seems to prohibit locating any kind of mineral by any means at all,
at
least in the San Diego area. Does anyone know how they'd get out of that
one?
It actually stopped any sort of "locating" which refers to dousing,
or magical means of location except for going out and looking.
There is a court case in the Highest California State court which
found that Astrology, when and only when, practiced as a organized
religious rite to be allowed under the US 1st Amendment to the
Constitution. It did not set aside or declare the law or ordinance
unconstitutional, as Edmond and other Astrologers would have you
think.
Hello Bob Officer:[/quote:d42dfb727e]
please give the date of this court case and where I can research its
follow up decisions. I am interested, as I recall different and possibly
more recent outcome.
Thank you.
Be well,
IRH/Silveen
[quote:d42dfb727e]--
Ak'toh'di[/quote:d42dfb727e] |
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| Edmond Wollmann... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:57 am |
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On Sep 23, 3:17 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic... at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote:
[quote:5492584411]On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:32:06 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a
wrote:
" It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign,
circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other
publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to
find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or silver
or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or friendship
or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives, lost relatives or
friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or psychic powers,
facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology, psychometry, spirits,
mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, or other
craft, science, talismans, charms, potions, magnetism or magnetized articles
or substances, Oriental mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or
numerology, or to engage in or carry on any business the advertisement of
which is prohibited in this Section and Subsections."
Blimey, what a load of legal blether.
That's the current California law which is enforce only as a last
resort.
I noticed a funny thing:
"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise... to locate
oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural product... by
means of... [any] other craft or science... or to engage in or carry on any
business the advertisement of which is prohibited in this Section and
Subsections."
This seems to prohibit locating any kind of mineral by any means at all, at
least in the San Diego area. Does anyone know how they'd get out of that
one?
It actually stopped any sort of "locating" which refers to dousing,
or magical means of location except for going out and looking.
There is a court case in the Highest California State court which
found that Astrology, when and only when, practiced as a organized
religious rite to be allowed under the US 1st Amendment to the
Constitution. It did not set aside or declare the law or ordinance
unconstitutional, as Edmond and other Astrologers would have you
think.
--
Ak'toh'di
[/quote:5492584411]
Bullshit, I have a business license from San Diego to do astrology and
have had one for years. When I first moved here in 1984 I tried to
advertise in the Tribune and they said they "didn't do those kinds of
ads" fortunately I knew someone (a client of mine in astrology) who
was a bigwig at the paper and he made them change it and I was the
first astrologer to advertise in the San Diego Union Tribune. No one
has EVER said a thing about any such idiotic laws and certainly no one
has ever enforced them, they would be laughed at.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/ |
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| Edmond Wollmann, Eye in The Sky... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:27 pm |
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On Sep 24, 1:38 pm, Sofa King <r... at (no spam) 127.0.0.1> wrote:
[quote:1642d2215b]Edmond Wollmann wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:17 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic... at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:32:06 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a
wrote:
" It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign,
circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other
publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to
find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or
silver or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or
friendship or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives,
lost relatives or friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or
psychic powers, facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology,
psychometry, spirits, mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology,
palmistry, necromancy, or other craft, science, talismans, charms,
potions, magnetism or magnetized articles or substances, Oriental
mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or numerology, or to engage in
or carry on any business the advertisement of which is prohibited in
this Section and Subsections."
Blimey, what a load of legal blether.
That's the current California law which is enforce only as a last
resort.
I noticed a funny thing:
"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise... to
locate oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural
product... by means of... [any] other craft or science... or to engage
in or carry on any business the advertisement of which is prohibited in
this Section and Subsections."
This seems to prohibit locating any kind of mineral by any means at all,
at least in the San Diego area. Does anyone know how they'd get out of
that one?
It actually stopped any sort of "locating" which refers to dousing,
or magical means of location except for going out and looking.
There is a court case in the Highest California State court which
found that Astrology, when and only when, practiced as a organized
religious rite to be allowed under the US 1st Amendment to the
Constitution. It did not set aside or declare the law or ordinance
unconstitutional, as Edmond and other Astrologers would have you
think.
--
Ak'toh'di
Bullshit, I have a business license from San Diego to do astrology and
have had one for years. When I first moved here in 1984 I tried to
advertise in the Tribune and they said they "didn't do those kinds of
ads" fortunately I knew someone (a client of mine in astrology) who
was a bigwig at the paper and he made them change it and I was the
first astrologer to advertise in the San Diego Union Tribune. No one
has EVER said a thing about any such idiotic laws and certainly no one
has ever enforced them, they would be laughed at.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consultinghttp://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworkshttp://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUNhttp://www.edmondwollmann.com/
sounds like one of those laws like "spitting into the wind" is illegal in
some city, or jaywalking...- Hide quoted text -
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[/quote:1642d2215b]
I think they did a story one time on the news about this old law, but
it drew the same "seems ridiculous" comments from the report. I doubt
very seriously that it would even hold up in court now.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/ |
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| Edmond Wollmann, Eye in The Sky... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:33 pm |
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On Sep 24, 2:31 pm, "Principled San Diego Firefighters"
<seriou... at (no spam) now.com> wrote:
[quote:df23d7567e]In article <9eb1df55-0e28-4243-ac82-
d42a1d856... at (no spam) y28g2000prd.googlegroups.com
Edmond Wollmann <AArctophi... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:17 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic... at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:32:06 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a
wrote:
" It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign,
circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other
publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to
find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or si
lver
or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or friend
ship
or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives, lost relative
s or
friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or psychic powers,
facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology, psychometry, spirits,
mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, or oth
er
craft, science, talismans, charms, potions, magnetism or magnetized arti
cles
or substances, Oriental mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or
numerology, or to engage in or carry on any business the advertisement o
f
which is prohibited in this Section and Subsections."
Blimey, what a load of legal blether.
That's the current California law which is enforce only as a last
resort.
I noticed a funny thing:
"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise... to locat
e
oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural product.... by
means of... [any] other craft or science... or to engage in or carry on
any
business the advertisement of which is prohibited in this Section and
Subsections."
This seems to prohibit locating any kind of mineral by any means at all,
at
least in the San Diego area. Does anyone know how they'd get out of t
hat
one?
It actually stopped any sort of "locating" which refers to dousing,
or magical means of location except for going out and looking.
There is a court case in the Highest California State court which
found that Astrology, when and only when, practiced as a organized
religious rite to be allowed under the US 1st Amendment to the
Constitution. It did not set aside or declare the law or ordinance
unconstitutional, as Edmond and other Astrologers would have you
think.
--
Ak'toh'di
Bullshit, I have a business license from San Diego to do astrology and
have had one for years. When I first moved here in 1984 I tried to
advertise in the Tribune and they said they "didn't do those kinds of
ads" fortunately I knew someone (a client of mine in astrology) who
was a bigwig at the paper and he made them change it and I was the
first astrologer to advertise in the San Diego Union Tribune. No one
has EVER said a thing about any such idiotic laws and certainly no one
has ever enforced them, they would be laughed at.
That's a constitution fighting, pro-illegal and pro-homosexual
rag if there ever was one. Who did you blow to get that done?
[/quote:df23d7567e]
I don't expose clients to your negativity, asshole.
Did you have any astrology to discuss?
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/ |
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| Sofa King... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:38 pm |
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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
[quote:fb23528c96]On Sep 23, 3:17Â pm, Bob Officer <boboffic... at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:32:06 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a
wrote:
" It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign,
circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other
publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to
find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or
silver or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or
friendship or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives,
lost relatives or friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or
psychic powers, facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology,
psychometry, spirits, mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology,
palmistry, necromancy, or other craft, science, talismans, charms,
potions, magnetism or magnetized articles or substances, Oriental
mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or numerology, or to engage in
or carry on any business the advertisement of which is prohibited in
this Section and Subsections."
Blimey, what a load of legal blether.
That's the current California law which is enforce only as a last
resort.
I noticed a funny thing:
"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise... to
locate oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural
product... by means of... [any] other craft or science... or to engage
in or carry on any business the advertisement of which is prohibited in
this Section and Subsections."
This seems to prohibit locating any kind of mineral by any means at all,
at least in the San Diego area. Â Does anyone know how they'd get out of
that one?
It actually stopped any sort of "locating" which refers to dousing,
or magical means of location except for going out and looking.
There is a court case in the Highest California State court which
found that Astrology, when and only when, practiced as a organized
religious rite to be allowed under the US 1st Amendment to the
Constitution. It did not set aside or declare the law or ordinance
unconstitutional, as Edmond and other Astrologers would have you
think.
--
Ak'toh'di
Bullshit, I have a business license from San Diego to do astrology and
have had one for years. When I first moved here in 1984 I tried to
advertise in the Tribune and they said they "didn't do those kinds of
ads" fortunately I knew someone (a client of mine in astrology) who
was a bigwig at the paper and he made them change it and I was the
first astrologer to advertise in the San Diego Union Tribune. No one
has EVER said a thing about any such idiotic laws and certainly no one
has ever enforced them, they would be laughed at.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/
[/quote:fb23528c96]
sounds like one of those laws like "spitting into the wind" is illegal in
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| Principled San Diego Firefighters... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:31 pm |
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In article <9eb1df55-0e28-4243-ac82-
d42a1d8562f4 at (no spam) y28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
Edmond Wollmann <AArctophilax at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:dd754bc5d4]
On Sep 23, 3:17 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic... at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:32:06 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a
wrote:
" It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise by sign,
circular, handbill or in any newspaper, periodical or magazine, or other
publication or publications, or by any other means, to tell fortunes, to
find or restore lost or stolen property, to locate oil wells, gold or si
lver
or other ore or metal or natural product, to restore lost love or friend
ship
or affection, to unite or procure lovers, husbands, wives, lost relative
s or
friends, for or without pay, by means of occult or psychic powers,
facilities or forces, clairvoyance, psychology, psychometry, spirits,
mediumship, seership, prophecy, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, or oth
er
craft, science, talismans, charms, potions, magnetism or magnetized arti
cles
or substances, Oriental mysteries or magic of any kind or nature, or
numerology, or to engage in or carry on any business the advertisement o
f
which is prohibited in this Section and Subsections."
Blimey, what a load of legal blether.
That's the current California law which is enforce only as a last
resort.
I noticed a funny thing:
"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to advertise... to locat
e
oil wells, gold or silver or other ore or metal or natural product... by
means of... [any] other craft or science... or to engage in or carry on
any
business the advertisement of which is prohibited in this Section and
Subsections."
This seems to prohibit locating any kind of mineral by any means at all,
at
least in the San Diego area. Does anyone know how they'd get out of t
hat
one?
It actually stopped any sort of "locating" which refers to dousing,
or magical means of location except for going out and looking.
There is a court case in the Highest California State court which
found that Astrology, when and only when, practiced as a organized
religious rite to be allowed under the US 1st Amendment to the
Constitution. It did not set aside or declare the law or ordinance
unconstitutional, as Edmond and other Astrologers would have you
think.
--
Ak'toh'di
Bullshit, I have a business license from San Diego to do astrology and
have had one for years. When I first moved here in 1984 I tried to
advertise in the Tribune and they said they "didn't do those kinds of
ads" fortunately I knew someone (a client of mine in astrology) who
was a bigwig at the paper and he made them change it and I was the
first astrologer to advertise in the San Diego Union Tribune. No one
has EVER said a thing about any such idiotic laws and certainly no one
has ever enforced them, they would be laughed at.
[/quote:dd754bc5d4]
That's a constitution fighting, pro-illegal and pro-homosexual
rag if there ever was one. Who did you blow to get that done?
[quote:dd754bc5d4]Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/[/quote:dd754bc5d4] |
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| Anonymous... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:58 am |
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In article <c4c0506c-649c-4975-aa8a-55aea8f01755 at (no spam) 12g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
The Sun <arcturianone at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote:40108332ab]
Unfortunately, you can't see your own pattern of doing the same
idiotic thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
[/quote:40108332ab]
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| Silveen... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:49 am |
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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[quote:22304c7810]On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:13:46 +0200, in alt.astrology, "Silveen"
Stargazer-Silveen at (no spam) t-online.de> wrote:
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referred to "blue laws" . .
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It actually stopped any sort of "locating" which refers to dousing,
or magical means of location except for going out and looking.
There is a court case in the Highest California State court which
found that Astrology, when and only when, practiced as a organized
religious rite to be allowed under the US 1st Amendment to the
Constitution. It did not set aside or declare the law or ordinance
unconstitutional, as Edmond and other Astrologers would have you
think.
Hello Bob Officer:
please give the date of this court case and where I can research its
follow up decisions. I am interested, as I recall different and possibly
more recent outcome.
Thank you.
Be well,
It is a circa 1920 court case which all other california cases use as
support. The LA Church of Astrology v. California. IT allows the use
of astrology as a religious rite. Sort of the same way Co$ uses the
"goofy meter".
Astrology is based upon apophenia. A type one statistical anomaly.
The human mind works on a basis of built pattern recognition. IT does
and will create a pattern where no pattern exists. That is astrology,
numerology and all the rest of the religious claptrap idiots continue
to burden humanity.
When Examined Astrology doesn't work.
--
Ak'toh'di
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Hello Bob Officer:
Thank you for your given information, for which I would like you
to click on to the following link:
http://www.lovestarz.com/colemann.HTML
this will clear up some questions.
There was more recently, while I was still in San Francisco, a similar
case where someone wanted to "disprove" astrology with later proven
untrue statements and the courts had to dismiss the case.
Again a misunderstood "belief".
As you must know by now, astrology is not a "belief", one understands
it, or not. The more you really study it, the more you get "hooked" into
studying more. It mostly starts with ones own chart - and reading, reading
and more reading. Suddenly it becomes an "automatic", a given, like
knowing you own name, place and SS number.
Ask yourself, do you "believe" in medicine, in chiropractic (which
has only fairly recently (in the 1980ies) been legalized !!), do you
"believe"
in higher mathematics ?? etc. etc. All these really take years upon years
of studying, if you want to get it to "work".
Astrology can only "work", meaning the readings come out correct, if all
given dates are correct ( to the best knowledge ).
If they are not correct - like wrong, or no birth hour, or even the birth
place
is not known (like with some adoptions of foreign babies) - the chart
can be adjusted, according to various dates given, after the person is an
adult, among other ways to get to the right result.
This is sometimes a time consuming piece of work, even if you know what
you are doing, but it can be done.
BTW: Ed Wollmann is not spamming, he is using his signature, with
links to information. In his posts nobody is asked to spend any money.
If he charges for personal readings, this is his business, he does not force
it on anyone. Much like going to your doctor, psychologist, chiropractor.
They all studied, learned their profession and we go there because they
know more than we do to fix what seems to be wrong. Nobody forces
us, but we go and feel much better afterwards - and - it makes us think
of how we could possibly avoid a next visit. We will (sometimes) change
our life style to be healthier, physically and mentally.
Also those people on TV, nobody forces any of the viewers to call in,
the viewers are looking for an outsider´s view of their messed up situation
- if it was not messed up, they would not ask for help, . . right ?? -
Another example: IF you drove your car without oil change (etc.) for
much too long and you do not know why the engine makes weir noises,
you will eventually feel the need to go to a mechanic to get help,
hopefully before your engine blows.
Unless this mechanic is your brother, or your "best" friend, you will have
to pay for it. He knows what is wrong and can fix it - and on - and on.
BTW2: The more people out there charge for their services, the more
taxes they _have to_ pay, which in turn helps all the government expenses
(including people on welfare) to be taken care of. - Right again ?!?
As I can see it, Ed Wollmann freely shares his knowledge. If he repeats it,
we do not have to re-read it, but like a good book, you look into it from
time to time to help you recall some discussed points, or a film which one
might like to re-view, because it was just so wonderful. - -
You know what I am trying to convey here.
Why don´t you let someone do your chart and see how it comes out.
The way charts and the evaluations can be done now is also with the
help of computer programs, the calculation of which have gotten very
precise, thus much faster, easier to oversee, plus having much more
useable information than some decades ago.
Life has changed so drastically that also the terminology of any text of
the evaluations had to be re-worded.
A program for character-reading will not tell you about every move
you ARE going to do during your life, but it will talk about the tendencies
to go one direction, or another.
Should you be, say 60 years old, you will most likely have outlived some
of these various tendencies, you have left those completely behind, if you
have taken and learned the lessons as given during your life, so these
parts of the evaluation are kind of outdated, but it can explain how you
felt and why certain things happened in your life - or not.
Most people refer to the gifts as "genetic back ground", (mother/father
had already those tendencies/traits, no wonder . . ) when it shows
someone being gifted in one way or another.
These traits can be seen in a chart - seen only when you are really looking
for it (and the chart information is correct.
There is so much in every person´s life, that no one other person
_can_ know everything about another chart-owner. One thing looks just
"more likely" than another.
All in all, it simply cannot be said in, it "does not work" with 2
sentences.
(Like a friend of mine asked me, after I had answered many of her
questions, she said, "this is all too much for me, can you say it in two
sentences ?" - Sorry, NO !!)
~~~ ~~~ ~~~
So much for right now.
You take care and
be well,
IRH/Silveen |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:10 pm |
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Silveen's link should be: http://www.lovestarz.com/coleman.html
Bob Officer (and anyone else interested) would do well to have a look at it.
It has a good summary of the laws about astrology and how they developed.
A. B. |
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| The True Edmond Wollmann... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:38 pm |
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On Oct 1, 11:10 am, "A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote:
[quote:64114ece13]Silveen's link should be:http://www.lovestarz.com/coleman.html
Bob Officer (and anyone else interested) would do well to have a look at it.
It has a good summary of the laws about astrology and how they developed.
A. B.
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Don't confuse the spinics with the facts.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.e-wollmann.com/
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In article <2d688178-2219-4465-8cd4-5c044cb4fd95 at (no spam) g31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>
The True Edmond Wollmann <EHWollmann at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
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On Oct 1, 11:10=A0am, "A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote:
Silveen's link should be:http://www.lovestarz.com/coleman.html
Bob Officer (and anyone else interested) would do well to have a look at =
it.
It has a good summary of the laws about astrology and how they developed.
A. B.
Don't confuse the spinics with the facts.
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Use of moronic made up word by defeated kook noted. |
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