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| Art Kendall... |
 Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:16 am |
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Verizon will be dropping access to newsgroups September 30.
How do other members of this newsgroup access it? What has been your
experience with the access source??
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| Bruce Weaver... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:16 am |
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On Sep 17, 8:16 am, Art Kendall <Arthur.Kend... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
[quote:e715238aa8]Verizon will be dropping access to newsgroups September 30.
How do other members of this newsgroup access it? What has been your
experience with the access source??
Art Kendall
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Hi Art. My university does not have a news server, so I am reading &
posting via Google Groups--at least when I am at work. I still do
like the news server method better (and still have it via my home
ISP), but I have gotten used to Google. I do wish Google would
incorporate a sig file though, and some means of dealing with spam. I
have resorted to using a killfile script for Google Groups because of
the tremendous amount of spam in sci.stat.math (see my "killfile" post
there for details).
HTH.
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Bruce Weaver
bweaver at (no spam) lakeheadu.ca
http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/Home
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| Ken Butler... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:33 am |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:16:16 GMT, Art Kendall
<Arthur.Kendall at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
[quote:56c6c2c838]Verizon will be dropping access to newsgroups September 30.
How do other members of this newsgroup access it? What has been your
experience with the access source??
[/quote:56c6c2c838]
I use the news server news.eternal-september.org (free, requires
registration) which has the advantage that if you change isp, you
don't have to change all your news settings.
I've been using it (including its previous incarnation at
motzarella.org) for a couple of years, and it has been basically
problem-free.
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Ken Butler, Lecturer (Statistics)
University of Toronto at Scarborough
butler (at) utsc.utoronto.ca
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| Rich Ulrich... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:08 pm |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:16:16 GMT, Art Kendall
<Arthur.Kendall at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
[quote:a20dec6af9]Verizon will be dropping access to newsgroups September 30.
How do other members of this newsgroup access it? What has been your
experience with the access source??
[/quote:a20dec6af9]
I use Giganews.com. It originally came bundled with my
Comcast subscription, but now it charges my bank each month.
It has over 100,000 groups available, including those with
misspelled names. I've had very good service from it, and
it keeps a very long history available.
I believe that the German ISP which once was free (and
was very highly recommended, partly for that reason) is still
available at a reasonable price.
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Rich Ulrich |
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| Ken Butler... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:56 pm |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:08:45 -0400, Rich Ulrich
<rich.ulrich at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
[quote:3917465e94]I believe that the German ISP which once was free (and
was very highly recommended, partly for that reason) is still
available at a reasonable price.
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This would have been the server formerly based at fu-berlin, which
became news.individual.net, no longer free but not expensive. (The one
I mentioned before, eternal-september.org, is also based in Germany.)
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Ken Butler, Lecturer (Statistics)
University of Toronto at Scarborough
butler (at) utsc.utoronto.ca
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| Art Kendall... |
| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:51 am |
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Do any of the news providers convert the news items to e-mail so that
messages can be filtered for content? Do any allow html? Mixed fonts,
bolding, etc.?
Art
Art Kendall wrote:
[quote:e1032dad6d]Verizon will be dropping access to newsgroups September 30.
How do other members of this newsgroup access it? What has been your
experience with the access source??
Art Kendall[/quote:e1032dad6d] |
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| Rich Ulrich... |
| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:19 pm |
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Top-posting,
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:51:37 GMT, Art Kendall
<Arthur.Kendall at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
[quote:35bfde31ef]Do any of the news providers convert the news items to e-mail so that
messages can be filtered for content? Do any allow html? Mixed fonts,
bolding, etc.?
Art
Art Kendall wrote:
Verizon will be dropping access to newsgroups September 30.
How do other members of this newsgroup access it? What has been your
experience with the access source??
[/quote:35bfde31ef]
Giganews - It allows attachments to Binary groups, only.
Some distributors do not distribute Binary -- with pictures, music,
etc. Giganews, I think, only archives *Binary* groups for
several months. (The posts tend to be huge, and many).
(I've read somewhere that Giganews archives the text groups
going back to when Giganews started, or shortly thereafter.)
Forte Agent tells me on occasion that a post uses HTML.
There have only been a handful that I've seen, all of them
from one particular poster (in the sci.stat.* groups).
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| greybeard... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:10 pm |
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On Sep 18, 11:51 am, Art Kendall <Arthur.Kend... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
[quote:b469392aef]Do any of the news providers convert the news items to e-mail so that
messages can be filtered for content? Do any allow html? Mixed fonts,
bolding, etc.?
[/quote:b469392aef]
Most new clients will let you set up killfiles and filtering. The
typical ones will use coloring for different levels of quoting.
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| Art Kendall... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:00 am |
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I should have been more explicit. I use Thunderbird and it only has
filtering for subject, from and date (i.e., header info) for NEWS. For
e-mail it has a very extensive filtering.
What other news clients are members of the group using?
Would other ways to read newsgroups have ways to filter based on
contents of the body of a message?
There is already a listserv list for SPSS that has a lot of overlap with
this newsgroup. Are any members of this group at large institutions
that might host the sci,stat.* newsgroups as listserv lists?
I have had a recommendation from this list to try news.eternal-september.org
Are there other free sources of newgroups that members of thes groups have had success with?
Art
greybeard wrote:
[quote:047a4cac7c]On Sep 18, 11:51 am, Art Kendall <Arthur.Kend... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Do any of the news providers convert the news items to e-mail so that
messages can be filtered for content? Do any allow html? Mixed fonts,
bolding, etc.?
Most new clients will let you set up killfiles and filtering. The
typical ones will use coloring for different levels of quoting.
--
David Winsemius
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| Terence... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:01 am |
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It seems Google is now eliminating SPAM from some of the scientific
and programing-related groups. The comp.lang.fortran group now seems
to be clean, as an example. |
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| Brendan Halpin... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:04 pm |
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On Thu, Sep 24 2009, Art Kendall wrote:
[quote:94b063671c]I should have been more explicit. I use Thunderbird and it only has filtering
for subject, from and date (i.e., header info) for NEWS. For e-mail it has a
very extensive filtering.
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The default with netnews is filtering on headers, because they are
immediately available. Filtering on the body requires each message to be
downloaded, which will normally be done only when it is read. However,
many newsreaders allow filtering on body, but it is very slow. I only
use it with a single group with a lot of trolls and other nonsense.
[quote:94b063671c]What other news clients are members of the group using?
[/quote:94b063671c]
I use gnus, which is wonderful for those with a pre-existing commitment
to Emacs.
(And new.individual.net, very good value for ¤10 per annum).
Brendan
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Tel: w +353-61-213147 f +353-61-202569 h +353-61-338562; Room F2-025 x 3147
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