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| sam... |
 Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:17 am |
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I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened? |
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| Mark & Steven Bornfeld... |
| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:36 am |
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sam wrote:
[quote:7a73ab54a3]I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
[/quote:7a73ab54a3]
I don't have an answer, but I've heard much the same about searching
the google groups archives in other usenet groups.
I think there may be a workaround, but I don't know what it is.
Steve
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001 |
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| Steven Bornfeld... |
| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:02 pm |
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:
[quote:a686822b56]sam wrote:
I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
I don't have an answer, but I've heard much the same about searching
the google groups archives in other usenet groups.
I think there may be a workaround, but I don't know what it is.
Steve
[/quote:a686822b56]
OK, here's what I found on another ng. If you search within the group
on google, you will only get a few hits from the past few weeks.
However, if you go to the google groups homepage:
http://groups.google.com/
....and enter after your keywords the group name (sci.med.dentistry), you
should get a much greater number of hits.
Steve |
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| sam... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:35 am |
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On 15 Sep, 03:02, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm... at (no spam) earthlink.net>
wrote:
[quote:0e4cf38108]Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:
sam wrote:
I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
I don't have an answer, but I've heard much the same about searching
the google groups archives in other usenet groups.
I think there may be a workaround, but I don't know what it is.
Steve
OK, here's what I found on another ng. If you search within the group
on google, you will only get a few hits from the past few weeks.
However, if you go to the google groups homepage:
http://groups.google.com/
...and enter after your keywords the group name (sci.med.dentistry), you
should get a much greater number of hits.
Steve- Hide quoted text -
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[/quote:0e4cf38108]
Thanks for these replies - I really appreciate it. |
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| trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com |... |
| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:00 pm |
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On Sep 14, 6:17 am, sam <samholler... at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
[quote:a717556a62]I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
[/quote:a717556a62]
Google groups has gotten worse and worse. It used
to be easy to search for relevant forum. There used
to and may still be a usenet archive on a European website.
As I recall one had to pay to post but one could read it for free.
These days one has persist, going down into the
searches to find much.
I think the big boys don't like the Usenet as it is
not completely controlled.
Google had better be careful or people will start using
Bing or something else. It is degrading and becoming more also
ran all the time.........................Trig |
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| Jan Drew... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:28 am |
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On Sep 19, 3:38�pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
[quote:713ea28f68]In article
28983a93-6ed8-4d87-9a46-1b314a4f5... at (no spam) u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
�"trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |" <trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 14, 6:17�am, sam <samholler... at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
[cut]
IMHO DejaNews was The Boss. �AltaVista provided a good service too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
Webby
[/quote:713ea28f68]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Risk_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Legal_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_disclaimer |
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| The Webby... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:38 pm |
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In article
<28983a93-6ed8-4d87-9a46-1b314a4f579a at (no spam) u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
"trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com |" <trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:7313448b84]On Sep 14, 6:17 am, sam <samholler... at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
[cut][/quote:7313448b84]
IMHO DejaNews was The Boss. AltaVista provided a good service too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
Webby |
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| JLA... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:23 pm |
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[quote:c92f20930b]On Sep 14, 6:17 am, sam <samholler... at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even
putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't
bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring
up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.co wrote:
Google groups has gotten worse and worse. It used
to be easy to search for relevant forum. There used
to and may still be a usenet archive on a European website.
As I recall one had to pay to post but one could read it for free.
These days one has persist, going down into the
searches to find much.
I think the big boys don't like the Usenet as it is
not completely controlled.
Google had better be careful or people will start using
Bing or something else. It is degrading and becoming more also
ran all the time.........................Trig
[/quote:c92f20930b]
There is a mirror for this group here
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=303 |
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| The Webby... |
| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:26 am |
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In article
<ca18f971-5511-4b7e-9a91-c45973768841 at (no spam) z28g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Jan Drew <jdrew63929 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
[quote:aee5f98a1a]On Sep 19, 3:38?pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
28983a93-6ed8-4d87-9a46-1b314a4f5... at (no spam) u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
?"trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |" <trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 14, 6:17?am, sam <samholler... at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
[cut]
IMHO DejaNews was The Boss. ?AltaVista provided a good service too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
Webby
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Risk_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Legal_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_disclaimer
[/quote:aee5f98a1a]
To avoid any confusion:
These links have nothing to do with my post and a Wikipedia reference
about the history of DejaNews or AltaVista which were search engines. |
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| Happy Oyster... |
| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:50 am |
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 07:26:18 -0700, The Webby <tmjiatroepidemic at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
[quote:3d2e4d1243]In article
ca18f971-5511-4b7e-9a91-c45973768841 at (no spam) z28g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Jan Drew <jdrew63929 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
On Sep 19, 3:38?pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
28983a93-6ed8-4d87-9a46-1b314a4f5... at (no spam) u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
?"trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com |" <trigonometry1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 14, 6:17?am, sam <samholler... at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
[cut]
IMHO DejaNews was The Boss. ?AltaVista provided a good service too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
Webby
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Risk_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Legal_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_disclaimer
To avoid any confusion:
These links have nothing to do with my post and a Wikipedia reference
about the history of DejaNews or AltaVista which were search engines.
[/quote:3d2e4d1243]
Hi, Webby,
Jan Drew falls apart. She even cannot count to 2.
Her behavior is criminal and all tries to stop her from harassing, stalking,
lying, and making false medicals claims are absolutely fruitless.
I consider it only a matter of time until she will be ousted by her church, if
she already isn't that...
--
"Syrer besetzten die Städte,
frevelten dort um die Wette.
Wollten von Jahwe nichts wissen,
wurden von Löwen zerrissen." http://www.reimbibel.de |
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| trigonometry1972 at (no spam) gmail.com |... |
| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:25 pm |
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[quote:3e00a51146]There is a mirror for this group herehttp://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=303
[/quote:3e00a51146]
Ah the wonders of cross postings. I post into MHA and it
apparently went to a dentistry forum and mirror.
Still thanks as I take a certain pleasure in mirror sites.
In that I have my assorted hobby horses I like to ride so to
speak and I like when others are offered the ride. |
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| Lurch Adams... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:49 pm |
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Yet another reason to keep your personal contact information off the
'net.
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:17:14 -0700 (PDT), Dartos
<tuthjockey at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:
[quote]
One thing is for sure. Someone knows how to do it (though not with
total understanding <G>).
I had a woman call me at the office from Florida about Sargenti endo
and AH26 saying I posted
supporting the techniques and materials. She went on to say she
inferred that I encouraged other
dentists to use the materials.
These supposed posts came from 2003.
I do support one appointment endo for a large portion of teeth needing
root canals, but I have never
supported what is commonly called 'Sargenti endo' or AH26.
No harm done, but it was a ridiculous waste of time.
Steve F.
OK, here's what I found on another ng. If you search within the group
on google, you will only get a few hits from the past few weeks.
However, if you go to the google groups homepage:
http://groups.google.com/
...and enter after your keywords the group name (sci.med.dentistry), you
should get a much greater number of hits.
Steve[/quote] |
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| The Webby... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:45 pm |
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Sometime in the past year or so, our family had a little reunion and our
matriarch wanting a group picture was very disappointed because only
almost everyone was in the same place at the same time; note I wrote
"almost everyone", rather than "everyone". Certain relatives said,
"just photoshop the others in" .... and you'll have the whole family
pictured together ... no one will know the difference!"
Say what??????
Usenet can be a lot like photoshopping-in the missing faces or thinking
the picture is complete not realizing there are missing faces. Either
way, it takes a *long* time and requires a substantial volume of data in
order to actually have a good understanding about the ideas of others
who post to a particular group on particular subjects.
It's better to realize when something (someone) is missing than to
pretend that the image is complete if you want a quality snapshot of any
collection of individuals.
In the case of a group photo ... you shouldn't just photoshop in the
ones who couldn't be there just because you can so that the picture
looks the way you imagined it ...
Technology has given us many tools to shortcut life itself in many ways.
But in our rush to find quick answers and solutions to problems, it is
easy to forget that sometimes we need to be more patient in our quest to
understand the perspectives of others.
~~~~~~~
The following is from the book, "The TMJ Iatroepidemic", page 307.
From: PWMP55A at (no spam) prodigy.com (K Wirth)
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Subject: Re: TMJ
Date: 1996
Are you saying that Alta Vista can pull up anyone's posts from some
secret archive.? What will they think of next?
kw
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A couple of us had already thought up "Netcanting" ... for the purpose
of promoting a more complete understanding of the subject being
discussed over three year's time.
I often think about "kw" and all the others who gathered for the group
photo taken in 1997. Some of them are still here and proud of it! Some
have died ... and some just quit posting or took on new identities and
continued "anonymously".
Webby
In article <f18he5l47hn395h8a0gtkci1uk13fkapmv at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Lurch Adams <lurcher at (no spam) lurch.org> wrote:
[quote]Yet another reason to keep your personal contact information off the
'net.
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:17:14 -0700 (PDT), Dartos
tuthjockey at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:
One thing is for sure. Someone knows how to do it (though not with
total understanding <G>).
I had a woman call me at the office from Florida about Sargenti endo
and AH26 saying I posted
supporting the techniques and materials. She went on to say she
inferred that I encouraged other
dentists to use the materials.
These supposed posts came from 2003.
I do support one appointment endo for a large portion of teeth needing
root canals, but I have never
supported what is commonly called 'Sargenti endo' or AH26.
No harm done, but it was a ridiculous waste of time.
Steve F.
OK, here's what I found on another ng. If you search within the group
on google, you will only get a few hits from the past few weeks.
However, if you go to the google groups homepage:
http://groups.google.com/
...and enter after your keywords the group name (sci.med.dentistry), you
should get a much greater number of hits.
Steve[/quote] |
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| The Webby... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:16 pm |
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In article
<tmjiatroepidemic-3FFFEA.09455809112009 at (no spam) newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com
[quote],
The Webby <tmjiatroepidemic at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:[/quote]
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[quote]
In the case of a group photo ... you shouldn't just photoshop in the
ones who couldn't be there just because you can so that the picture
looks the way you imagined it ...
[/quote]
Of course, OTOH, maybe you should just because you can! 
[quote]
Technology has given us many tools to shortcut life itself in many ways.
But in our rush to find quick answers and solutions to problems, it is
easy to forget that sometimes we need to be more patient in our quest to
understand the perspectives of others.
[cut][/quote]
It's sort of like me just cutting out all the unnecessary words. But I
did mark "[cut]" indicating text removal. And in the digital world, all
the words are more than likely never really removed (read: lost);
they're just moved and misplaced until recovered at some later point in
time. ;-)
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| The Webby... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:56 pm |
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If anyone can find "PWMP55A at (no spam) prodigy.com by searching via Google/Google
Groups ... let me/us know.
The Great and Mighty Google does not believe this poster or post ever
existed; and therefore has no memory of kw's post in 1996.
So... I ask, is Google photoshopping-out and leaving the real image to
memory of those who were there at the time?
Hmmm ... sometimes this stuff just gives me reason to spend time
thinking about what probably doesn't matter to much of anyone else.
But, Google has, in effect, re-written history as though it is complete
when in fact, it only tells part of the story that is/was "us".
By choice, I have chosen to spend some of my time today doing this. No
one is forcing me... and no one is stopping me either.
In memory of those Google has forgotten,
Webby ;-)
In article
<tmjiatroepidemic-3FFFEA.09455809112009 at (no spam) newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com
[quote],
The Webby <tmjiatroepidemic at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:[/quote]
[cut]
[quote]
Usenet can be a lot like photoshopping-in the missing faces or thinking
the picture is complete not realizing there are missing faces. Either
way, it takes a *long* time and requires a substantial volume of data in
order to actually have a good understanding about the ideas of others
who post to a particular group on particular subjects.
It's better to realize when something (someone) is missing than to
pretend that the image is complete if you want a quality snapshot of any
collection of individuals.
In the case of a group photo ... you shouldn't just photoshop in the
ones who couldn't be there just because you can so that the picture
looks the way you imagined it ...
Technology has given us many tools to shortcut life itself in many ways.
But in our rush to find quick answers and solutions to problems, it is
easy to forget that sometimes we need to be more patient in our quest to
understand the perspectives of others.
~~~~~~~
The following is from the book, "The TMJ Iatroepidemic", page 307.
From: PWMP55A at (no spam) prodigy.com (K Wirth)
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Subject: Re: TMJ
Date: 1996
Are you saying that Alta Vista can pull up anyone's posts from some
secret archive.? What will they think of next?
kw
~~~~~~~~
A couple of us had already thought up "Netcanting" ... for the purpose
of promoting a more complete understanding of the subject being
discussed over three year's time.
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