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Bob Officer wrote in "Re: Replies to comments on FAQs":
[quote:efad8332ec]Ken just remember You're talking about a change at the such a low
level molecular level Swapping out a pieces of a chain of atoms. Yes,
it amounts to the same thing.
There are some viral process which can make small changes and
particle physics which also can result in semi-random changes.
If you find a study which supports you I would like to read it.
[/quote:efad8332ec]
Are you serious? Because I've got the details of one or two such studies
somewhere, and I can find them for you if you like. Same goes for CFA of
course.
To be more exact, it's not the DNA which changes, it's the "regulatory
proteins" which surround it and control which genes are used at any time.
To take a simple instance, if a person is afraid they produce the stress
hormone adrenalin, which leads to various changes taking place in the body.
It makes sense that particular genes might be needed to do this which are
not used at other times.
It seems that the state of the regulatory proteins is passed on to the
person's children along with their DNA. So to some extent changes in a
person's body made by their emotions can be inherited with their genes. The
study of the regulatory proteins is called epigenetics, you could look that
up in the meantime.
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| Edmond Wollmann... |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:20 pm |
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On Aug 5, 11:03 am, "A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote:
[quote:502632c18f]Bob Officer wrote in "Re: Replies to comments on FAQs":
Ken just remember You're talking about a change at the such a low
level molecular level Swapping out a pieces of a chain of atoms. Yes,
it amounts to the same thing.
There are some viral process which can make small changes and
particle physics which also can result in semi-random changes.
If you find a study which supports you I would like to read it.
Are you serious? Because I've got the details of one or two such studies
somewhere, and I can find them for you if you like. Same goes for CFA of
course.
To be more exact, it's not the DNA which changes, it's the "regulatory
proteins" which surround it and control which genes are used at any time.
To take a simple instance, if a person is afraid they produce the stress
hormone adrenalin, which leads to various changes taking place in the body.
It makes sense that particular genes might be needed to do this which are
not used at other times.
It seems that the state of the regulatory proteins is passed on to the
person's children along with their DNA. So to some extent changes in a
person's body made by their emotions can be inherited with their genes. The
study of the regulatory proteins is called epigenetics, you could look that
up in the meantime.
A. B.
[/quote:502632c18f]
And genes can mutate as well, from extraterrestrial influences no
less, i.e., cosmic rays.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/ |
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| Edmond Wollmann... |
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:14 am |
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On Aug 19, 12:59 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic... at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote:
[quote:f285e51064]On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:20:28 -0700 (PDT), in alt.astrology, Edmond
Wollmann <AArctophi... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Aug 5, 11:03 am, "A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote:
Bob Officer wrote in "Re: Replies to comments on FAQs":
Ken just remember You're talking about a change at the such a low
level molecular level Swapping out a pieces of a chain of atoms. Yes,
it amounts to the same thing.
There are some viral process which can make small changes and
particle physics which also can result in semi-random changes.
If you find a study which supports you I would like to read it.
Are you serious? Because I've got the details of one or two such studies
somewhere, and I can find them for you if you like. Same goes for CFA of
course.
To be more exact, it's not the DNA which changes, it's the "regulatory
proteins" which surround it and control which genes are used at any time.
To take a simple instance, if a person is afraid they produce the stress
hormone adrenalin, which leads to various changes taking place in the body.
It makes sense that particular genes might be needed to do this which are
not used at other times.
It seems that the state of the regulatory proteins is passed on to the
person's children along with their DNA. So to some extent changes in a
person's body made by their emotions can be inherited with their genes.. The
study of the regulatory proteins is called epigenetics, you could look that
up in the meantime.
A. B.
And genes can mutate as well, from extraterrestrial influences no
less, i.e., cosmic rays.
Now Explain to A.B why you think "the reason dinosaurs were big,
because there was less gravity."
[/quote:f285e51064]
Probably because there was more oxygen and it was hotter. Did you have
any astrology to discuss old Mr. Senility?
But I challenge any of you to explain how hominids evolved into humans
in a little over 5 million years, while the dinosaurs were here for
hundreds of millions and evolved little if at all.
Who is AB anyway and WTF is it doing here?
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/ |
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:59 pm |
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:20:28 -0700 (PDT), in alt.astrology, Edmond
Wollmann <AArctophilax at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:272696b727]On Aug 5, 11:03 am, "A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote:
Bob Officer wrote in "Re: Replies to comments on FAQs":
Ken just remember You're talking about a change at the such a low
level molecular level Swapping out a pieces of a chain of atoms. Yes,
it amounts to the same thing.
There are some viral process which can make small changes and
particle physics which also can result in semi-random changes.
If you find a study which supports you I would like to read it.
Are you serious? Because I've got the details of one or two such studies
somewhere, and I can find them for you if you like. Same goes for CFA of
course.
To be more exact, it's not the DNA which changes, it's the "regulatory
proteins" which surround it and control which genes are used at any time.
To take a simple instance, if a person is afraid they produce the stress
hormone adrenalin, which leads to various changes taking place in the body.
It makes sense that particular genes might be needed to do this which are
not used at other times.
It seems that the state of the regulatory proteins is passed on to the
person's children along with their DNA. So to some extent changes in a
person's body made by their emotions can be inherited with their genes. The
study of the regulatory proteins is called epigenetics, you could look that
up in the meantime.
A. B.
And genes can mutate as well, from extraterrestrial influences no
less, i.e., cosmic rays.
[/quote:272696b727]
Now Explain to A.B why you think "the reason dinosaurs were big,
because there was less gravity."
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| A B... |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:51 pm |
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"Bob Officer" wrote:
[quote:9fe73052c5]Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Genes can mutate as well, from extraterrestrial influences no
less, i.e., cosmic rays.
Now Explain to A.B why you think "the reason dinosaurs were big,
because there was less gravity."
[/quote:9fe73052c5]
It's true about the cosmic rays actually. Look it up anywhere. They can't
pass through the Earth's magnetic field, but spacecraft have to be insulated
against them to protect the astronauts. Of course cosmic rays are from
outside the solar system, not from the planets, but the fact remains. (I
don't know what Mr Wollman said about dinosaurs. I wasn't here then. Does
it matter?)
But what I was really talking about was whether the effects of thoughts can
be biologically inherited. Does anyone have anything to say about this?
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| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:56 pm |
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"Bob Officer" wrote:
[quote:2aa1f01226]Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Who is AB anyway and WTF is it doing here?
Posting on a public forum. Why do you feel the need to ask, Who the
fuck died and appointed you hall monitor, or is that another of your
self proclaimed titles.
[/quote:2aa1f01226]
Thanks Bob.
I've already said who I am, and I don't intend to tell you in any more
detail.
Anyway, this group is supposed to be open to anybody.
A. B. |
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:11 pm |
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:56:09 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a>
wrote:
[quote:5e923ac1d5]"Bob Officer" wrote:
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Who is AB anyway and WTF is it doing here?
Posting on a public forum. Why do you feel the need to ask, Who the
fuck died and appointed you hall monitor, or is that another of your
self proclaimed titles.
Thanks Bob.
I've already said who I am, and I don't intend to tell you in any more
detail.
Anyway, this group is supposed to be open to anybody.
A. B.
[/quote:5e923ac1d5]
Exactly even if the person is a dumbfuck, he has the right to post.
and anyone has the right to point out he is a dumbfuck.
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:32 pm |
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:51:05 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a>
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[quote:56c1795537]"Bob Officer" wrote:
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Genes can mutate as well, from extraterrestrial influences no
less, i.e., cosmic rays.
Now Explain to A.B why you think "the reason dinosaurs were big,
because there was less gravity."
It's true about the cosmic rays actually.
[/quote:56c1795537]
Are you thinking about Xrays?
[quote:56c1795537]Look it up anywhere.
They can't pass through the Earth's magnetic field, but spacecraft have to be insulated
[/quote:56c1795537]
Cosmic rays are Particles not rays, they general interact with the
atmosphere and produce secondary showers of particles, Pions and
Kaons and are responsible for the production of stuff like Carbon14.
[quote:56c1795537]against them to protect the astronauts. Of course cosmic rays are from
outside the solar system, not from the planets, but the fact remains. (I
don't know what Mr Wollman said about dinosaurs. I wasn't here then. Does
it matter?)
[/quote:56c1795537]
I think you are confusing X-Rays and Cosmic Rays.
[quote:56c1795537]But what I was really talking about was whether the effects of thoughts can
be biologically inherited. Does anyone have anything to say about this?
[/quote:56c1795537]
That doesn't even began to make sense.
The subject was thoughts making active changes in DNA. Sort of like
Looking at a pith ball hanging in a glass bell jar and wishing it to
move.
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| Sofa King... |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:27 pm |
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Bob Officer wrote:
[quote:bc37185215]On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:51:05 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a
wrote:
"Bob Officer" wrote:
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Genes can mutate as well, from extraterrestrial influences no
less, i.e., cosmic rays.
Now Explain to A.B why you think "the reason dinosaurs were big,
because there was less gravity."
It's true about the cosmic rays actually.
Are you thinking about Xrays?
Look it up anywhere.
They can't pass through the Earth's magnetic field, but spacecraft have to
be insulated
Cosmic rays are Particles not rays, they general interact with the
atmosphere and produce secondary showers of particles, Pions and
Kaons and are responsible for the production of stuff like Carbon14.
against them to protect the astronauts. Of course cosmic rays are from
outside the solar system, not from the planets, but the fact remains. (I
don't know what Mr Wollman said about dinosaurs. I wasn't here then.
Does it matter?)
I think you are confusing X-Rays and Cosmic Rays.
But what I was really talking about was whether the effects of thoughts
can
be biologically inherited. Does anyone have anything to say about this?
That doesn't even began to make sense.
The subject was thoughts making active changes in DNA. Sort of like
Looking at a pith ball hanging in a glass bell jar and wishing it to
move.
[/quote:bc37185215]
it would be safe to say that thought affects our bodies, but not our DNA.
DNA just happens to be replicated in parallell inside every cell just in
case something "changes" something in any of the sequences.
even if you could move a few base pairs, it would be nullified by the 'error
correction' present DNA/RNA mechanisms. |
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:12 pm |
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:27:49 -0400, in alt.astrology, Sofa King
<root at (no spam) 127.0.0.1> wrote:
[quote:52749f6517]Bob Officer wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:51:05 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a
wrote:
"Bob Officer" wrote:
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Genes can mutate as well, from extraterrestrial influences no
less, i.e., cosmic rays.
Now Explain to A.B why you think "the reason dinosaurs were big,
because there was less gravity."
It's true about the cosmic rays actually.
Are you thinking about Xrays?
Look it up anywhere.
They can't pass through the Earth's magnetic field, but spacecraft have to
be insulated
Cosmic rays are Particles not rays, they general interact with the
atmosphere and produce secondary showers of particles, Pions and
Kaons and are responsible for the production of stuff like Carbon14.
against them to protect the astronauts. Of course cosmic rays are from
outside the solar system, not from the planets, but the fact remains. (I
don't know what Mr Wollman said about dinosaurs. I wasn't here then.
Does it matter?)
I think you are confusing X-Rays and Cosmic Rays.
But what I was really talking about was whether the effects of thoughts
can
be biologically inherited. Does anyone have anything to say about this?
That doesn't even began to make sense.
The subject was thoughts making active changes in DNA. Sort of like
Looking at a pith ball hanging in a glass bell jar and wishing it to
move.
it would be safe to say that thought affects our bodies, but not our DNA.
DNA just happens to be replicated in parallell inside every cell just in
case something "changes" something in any of the sequences.
even if you could move a few base pairs, it would be nullified by the 'error
correction' present DNA/RNA mechanisms.
[/quote:52749f6517]
Or perhaps they could trigger trisomy 21, trisomy 18, or trisomy 13
in themselves.
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| Edmond Wollmann... |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:47 pm |
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Chris Krolczyk wrote:
[quote:426e1b7dc0]
On Aug 19, 3:14 pm, Edmond Wollmann <AArctophi... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Probably because there was more oxygen and it was hotter. Did you have
any astrology to discuss old Mr. Senility?
Pot. Kettle, etc.
But I challenge any of you to explain how hominids evolved into humans
in a little over 5 million years, while the dinosaurs were here for
hundreds of millions and evolved little if at all.
Just couldn't be bothered to look this subject up on
a legitimate academic website before popping off, could
you?
BTW, define "little if at all". The fossil record is
hardly bereft of a ton of different prehistoric
species from different eras and locations, Edmo.
You're just too damn intellectually lazy to bother
to look.
[/quote:426e1b7dc0]
I'll take that as an "I don't know."
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Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/ |
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| Edmond Wollmann... |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:47 pm |
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Sofa King wrote:
[quote:73ec1dc91c]
Bob Officer wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:51:05 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a
wrote:
"Bob Officer" wrote:
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Genes can mutate as well, from extraterrestrial influences no
less, i.e., cosmic rays.
Now Explain to A.B why you think "the reason dinosaurs were big,
because there was less gravity."
It's true about the cosmic rays actually.
Are you thinking about Xrays?
Look it up anywhere.
They can't pass through the Earth's magnetic field, but spacecraft have to
be insulated
Cosmic rays are Particles not rays, they general interact with the
atmosphere and produce secondary showers of particles, Pions and
Kaons and are responsible for the production of stuff like Carbon14.
against them to protect the astronauts. Of course cosmic rays are from
outside the solar system, not from the planets, but the fact remains. (I
don't know what Mr Wollman said about dinosaurs. I wasn't here then.
Does it matter?)
I think you are confusing X-Rays and Cosmic Rays.
But what I was really talking about was whether the effects of thoughts
can
be biologically inherited. Does anyone have anything to say about this?
That doesn't even began to make sense.
The subject was thoughts making active changes in DNA. Sort of like
Looking at a pith ball hanging in a glass bell jar and wishing it to
move.
it would be safe to say that thought affects our bodies, but not our DNA.
[/quote:73ec1dc91c]
Isn't DNA essentially chemical reactions?
[quote:73ec1dc91c]DNA just happens to be replicated in parallell inside every cell just in
case something "changes" something in any of the sequences.
even if you could move a few base pairs, it would be nullified by the 'error
correction' present DNA/RNA mechanisms.
[/quote:73ec1dc91c]
DNA is the effect of thought, not the other way around.
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Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/ |
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| Edmond Wollmann... |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:47 pm |
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A B wrote:
[quote:bf6c1c5a7f]
"Bob Officer" wrote:
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Genes can mutate as well, from extraterrestrial influences no
less, i.e., cosmic rays.
Now Explain to A.B why you think "the reason dinosaurs were big,
because there was less gravity."
It's true about the cosmic rays actually. Look it up anywhere. They can't
pass through the Earth's magnetic field, but spacecraft have to be insulated
against them to protect the astronauts. Of course cosmic rays are from
outside the solar system, not from the planets, but the fact remains. (I
don't know what Mr Wollman said about dinosaurs. I wasn't here then. Does
it matter?)
But what I was really talking about was whether the effects of thoughts can
be biologically inherited. Does anyone have anything to say about this?
A. B.
[/quote:bf6c1c5a7f]
Of course they can. Its impossible for someone to be born to parents
who have nothing to do with them belief-wise. The physical world is the
material VERSION of belief.
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Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
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In article <4A9091A0.3A6F at (no spam) earthlink.net>
Edmond Wollmann <arcturianone at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote:8224f784fb]
Chris Krolczyk wrote:
On Aug 19, 3:14 pm, Edmond Wollmann <AArctophi... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Probably because there was more oxygen and it was hotter. Did you have
any astrology to discuss old Mr. Senility?
Pot. Kettle, etc.
But I challenge any of you to explain how hominids evolved into humans
in a little over 5 million years, while the dinosaurs were here for
hundreds of millions and evolved little if at all.
Just couldn't be bothered to look this subject up on
a legitimate academic website before popping off, could
you?
BTW, define "little if at all". The fossil record is
hardly bereft of a ton of different prehistoric
species from different eras and locations, Edmo.
You're just too damn intellectually lazy to bother
to look.
I'll take that as an "I don't know."
[/quote:8224f784fb]
You'll take it as we say you will and like it.
[quote:8224f784fb]--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:32 pm |
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On Aug 22, 7:47 pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian... at (no spam) earthlink.net>
wrote:
[quote:cb88ba170e]Chris Krolczyk wrote:
Just couldn't be bothered to look this subject up on
a legitimate academic website before popping off, could
you?
BTW, define "little if at all". The fossil record is
hardly bereft of a ton of different prehistoric
species from different eras and locations, Edmo.
You're just too damn intellectually lazy to bother
to look.
I'll take that as an "I don't know."
[/quote:cb88ba170e]
I'll take *that* as an admission that you're just another
uninformed asshole who can't be bothered to look the
information up for yourself.
Free clue, Edmo; there's thing called "Google" that
allows you to look up web sites that delve into such
arcane subjects as "biology", "paleontology",
"genetics" and the like.
That, or you can take your antiquated entrail-reading
garbage over to talk.origins in order to have
your ass handed to you by a biologist or
paleontologist in a more direct manner.
Your choice, kookula.
(NGs fixored)
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