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| RichTravsky... |
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Helios wrote:
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On Aug 3, 11:47 pm, RichTravsky <traRvE... at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/science/04dog.html
Few people spend their honeymoon catching and drawing blood from village dogs
up and down Africa. But Ryan and Corin Boyko, two anthropologists at the
University of California, Davis, chose this way to collect valuable genetic
data that is casting a new light on the domestication of dogs.
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Anunnaki.
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| deowll... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:09 pm |
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"RichTravsky" <traRvEsky at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
news:4A77AF68.CDC8CC4 at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com...
[quote:011781907d]
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/science/04dog.html
Few people spend their honeymoon catching and drawing blood from village
dogs
up and down Africa. But Ryan and Corin Boyko, two anthropologists at the
University of California, Davis, chose this way to collect valuable
genetic
data that is casting a new light on the domestication of dogs.
The opportunity to combine love with science arose when Ryan's brother
Adam
Boyko, a biologist at Cornell University, was discussing dog genetics with
his professor, Carlos Bustamente. Dr. Bustamente, just back from a visit
to
Venezuela, remarked on how small the street dogs there were.
The two researchers wondered if the dogs carried a recently discovered
gene
that downsizes dogs from wolves and is found in all small dog breeds. Dr.
Bustamente said the idea could be explored by collecting street dogs from
up
and down South America. Dr. Boyko, knowing his brother was planning a
honeymoon in Africa but lacked the money to go far, proposed that the
survey
be done in Africa instead.
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Ryan and Corin Boyko collected 223 samples of village dog blood from
Egypt,
Uganda and Namibia. The small gene question has not yet been assessed, but
their samples, reported in the current issue of the Proceedings of the
National
Academy of Sciences, have called into question a finding on the origin of
dog
domestication from wolves.
The origin is thought to be East Asia, based on a 2002 survey of both
village
dogs and breed dogs. But most of the village dogs in that survey came from
East
Asia, which could have tilted the outcome. The African village dogs turn
out to
have much the same amount of genetic diversity as those of East Asia. This
is
puzzling because the origin of a species is usually also the source of
greatest
genetic diversity.
The Boykos and Dr. Bustamente do not think dogs were domesticated in
Africa -
there are no wolves in Africa now, apart from the Ethiopian wolf - but
they
say the origin may not be East Asia. The issue is better addressed by
looking
just at village dogs, they think, and by excluding European breeds, which
are
mostly of recent origin.
They are now collecting samples from village dogs throughout the world -
Ryan
and Corin Boyko are at present catching dogs in New Guinea - in hope of
tracing
not just the place or places where dogs were first domesticated, but also
the
travels that dogs then took around the world with their masters.
The lack of any sharp gradient of genetic diversity between East Asian and
African village dogs could mean that once domesticated, dogs spread very
quickly from their point of origin. Another explanation, Dr. Boyko said,
is
that they originated at some point halfway between the two regions, like
in
the Caucasus mountains.
Robert Wayne, a biologist at the University of California, Los Angeles,
said
the new report "leaves in disarray" the thesis that dogs evolved in East
Asia.
But they could not have evolved in sub-Saharan Africa, which has no
wolves,
and "so must have evolved somewhere else, maybe in the Middle East," Dr.
Wayne said.
The solution to the origin of the dog will come from sampling wolves
throughout
the world as well as village dogs, Dr. Wayne said.
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No wolves in North Africa?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il-4UJWDnpY
You can see why they aren't common. |
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| deowll... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:11 pm |
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"RichTravsky" <traRvEsky at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
news:4A7FA8B4.8DEFCE5A at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com...
[quote:c15cef4e1a]Helios wrote:
On Aug 3, 11:47 pm, RichTravsky <traRvE... at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/science/04dog.html
Few people spend their honeymoon catching and drawing blood from
village dogs
up and down Africa. But Ryan and Corin Boyko, two anthropologists at
the
University of California, Davis, chose this way to collect valuable
genetic
data that is casting a new light on the domestication of dogs.
...
Anunnaki.
Huh?
[/quote:c15cef4e1a]
The jackal headed god of the dead from ancient Egypt. About the same thing
as a coyote and spread across most of Africa outside the rain forests. |
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| RichTravsky... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:43 pm |
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deowll wrote:
[quote:78182181a5]"RichTravsky" <traRvEsky at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Helios wrote:
On Aug 3, 11:47 pm, RichTravsky <traRvE... at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/science/04dog.html
Few people spend their honeymoon catching and drawing blood from
village dogs
up and down Africa. But Ryan and Corin Boyko, two anthropologists at
the
University of California, Davis, chose this way to collect valuable
genetic
data that is casting a new light on the domestication of dogs.
...
Anunnaki.
Huh?
The jackal headed god of the dead from ancient Egypt. About the same thing
as a coyote and spread across most of Africa outside the rain forests.
[/quote:78182181a5]
The "huh" is what does that have to do with anything... |
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| deowll... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:28 pm |
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"RichTravsky" <traRvEsky at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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[quote:4b96f2df44]deowll wrote:
"RichTravsky" <traRvEsky at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Helios wrote:
On Aug 3, 11:47 pm, RichTravsky <traRvE... at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/science/04dog.html
Few people spend their honeymoon catching and drawing blood from
village dogs
up and down Africa. But Ryan and Corin Boyko, two anthropologists at
the
University of California, Davis, chose this way to collect valuable
genetic
data that is casting a new light on the domestication of dogs.
...
Anunnaki.
Huh?
The jackal headed god of the dead from ancient Egypt. About the same
thing
as a coyote and spread across most of Africa outside the rain forests.
The "huh" is what does that have to do with anything...
[/quote:4b96f2df44]
It is a canine and can most likely breed with village dogs who may be in
part descended from it. |
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| RichTravsky... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:09 pm |
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deowll wrote:
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"RichTravsky" <traRvEsky at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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deowll wrote:
"RichTravsky" <traRvEsky at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Helios wrote:
On Aug 3, 11:47 pm, RichTravsky <traRvE... at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/science/04dog.html
Few people spend their honeymoon catching and drawing blood from
village dogs
up and down Africa. But Ryan and Corin Boyko, two anthropologists at
the
University of California, Davis, chose this way to collect valuable
genetic
data that is casting a new light on the domestication of dogs.
...
Anunnaki.
Huh?
The jackal headed god of the dead from ancient Egypt. About the same
thing
as a coyote and spread across most of Africa outside the rain forests.
The "huh" is what does that have to do with anything...
It is a canine and can most likely breed with village dogs who may be in
part descended from it.
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Anunnaki bred with village dogs? |
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