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| BradGuth... |
 Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:37 am |
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On Aug 21, 1:24 pm, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
[quote:8749b07625]On Aug 21, 1:12 pm, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 10:50 am, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
Do you subscribe to the hollow Earth theory too?
Double-A
Perhaps 0.1<1% hollow, but otherwise hosting a highly compressed core
volume of helium and of course good old hydrogen. 98.5% of this Eden/
Earth is by most interpretations fluid and continually interactive or
on the move (so to speak), leaving 1.5% as relatively solidified and
providing a crust/shell that’s containing all else that’s fluid or
that of compressed gaseous elements.
By hollow I don’t mean to imply as empty space at merely one bar worth
of interior pressure. A swimming pool or whatever underground tank is
void worthy, simply because it can be easily drained or pumped out.
I figure our extremely unusual Selene/moon is at least ten fold more
hollow than Earth, making our moon worth at least 1% hollow.
~ BG
They say the Moon rang like a bell when it was impacted, leading some
to wonder if it were hollow. But maybe they meant more that it shook
like a bowl of jello. So maybe the Moon is filled with jello! (There
goes the blue cheese hypothesis!)
Dobule-A
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Whatever's inside is hiding something of a lower density (less than
compressed basalt), perhaps even as low of density as sodium.
However, by rights there should be a few pockets or layers of mineral
brines, or voids as having been sucked crystal dry by the surrounding
3e-15 bar vacuum.
The unusually thick surface crust of Selene could be worth nearly 10%
of the mass, though at least worth half that much.
~ BG |
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| Double-A... |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:19 am |
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On Aug 21, 1:37 pm, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:418e0fb29e]On Aug 21, 1:24 pm, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 1:12 pm, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 10:50 am, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
Do you subscribe to the hollow Earth theory too?
Double-A
Perhaps 0.1<1% hollow, but otherwise hosting a highly compressed core
volume of helium and of course good old hydrogen. 98.5% of this Eden/
Earth is by most interpretations fluid and continually interactive or
on the move (so to speak), leaving 1.5% as relatively solidified and
providing a crust/shell that’s containing all else that’s fluid or
that of compressed gaseous elements.
By hollow I don’t mean to imply as empty space at merely one bar worth
of interior pressure. A swimming pool or whatever underground tank is
void worthy, simply because it can be easily drained or pumped out.
I figure our extremely unusual Selene/moon is at least ten fold more
hollow than Earth, making our moon worth at least 1% hollow.
~ BG
They say the Moon rang like a bell when it was impacted, leading some
to wonder if it were hollow. But maybe they meant more that it shook
like a bowl of jello. So maybe the Moon is filled with jello! (There
goes the blue cheese hypothesis!)
Dobule-A
Whatever's inside is hiding something of a lower density (less than
compressed basalt), perhaps even as low of density as sodium.
However, by rights there should be a few pockets or layers of mineral
brines, or voids as having been sucked crystal dry by the surrounding
3e-15 bar vacuum.
The unusually thick surface crust of Selene could be worth nearly 10%
of the mass, though at least worth half that much.
~ BG
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Perhaps it has a cream filled center, surrounded by a thick chocolate
crust, and a few silicate rocks and dust thrown on top for disguise!
A tasty snack that God is saving for later.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:42 pm |
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Pressure accrues; were BradGuth at the center of the earth,
there'd be 6 zetta·tons of wild-hot lava converging on him, ouch !
Where's the energy source to create such a powerful vacuum there ? |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:30 pm |
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On Aug 22, 1:19 pm, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
[quote:a8db293235]On Aug 21, 1:37 pm, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 1:24 pm, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 1:12 pm, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 10:50 am, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
Do you subscribe to thehollowEarth theory too?
Double-A
Perhaps 0.1<1%hollow, but otherwise hosting a highly compressed core
volume of helium and of course good old hydrogen. 98.5% of this Eden/
Earth is by most interpretations fluid and continually interactive or
on the move (so to speak), leaving 1.5% as relatively solidified and
providing a crust/shell that’s containing all else that’s fluid or
that of compressed gaseous elements.
ByhollowI don’t mean to imply as empty space at merely one bar worth
of interior pressure. A swimming pool or whatever underground tank is
void worthy, simply because it can be easily drained or pumped out.
I figure our extremely unusual Selene/moonis at least ten fold more
hollowthan Earth, making ourmoonworth at least 1%hollow.
~ BG
They say theMoonrang like a bell when it was impacted, leading some
to wonder if it werehollow. But maybe they meant more that it shook
like a bowl of jello. So maybe theMoonis filled with jello! (There
goes the blue cheese hypothesis!)
Dobule-A
Whatever's inside is hiding something of a lower density (less than
compressed basalt), perhaps even as low of density as sodium.
However, by rights there should be a few pockets or layers of mineral
brines, or voids as having been sucked crystal dry by the surrounding
3e-15 bar vacuum.
The unusually thick surface crust of Selene could be worth nearly 10%
of the mass, though at least worth half that much.
~ BG
Perhaps it has a cream filled center, surrounded by a thick chocolate
crust, and a few silicate rocks and dust thrown on top for disguise!
A tasty snack that God is saving for later.
Double-A
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I'm thinking there's a lot of sodium and bauxite inside, whereas by
now it's crystal dry and being kept otherwise just a little bit warm
from its offset core of thorium.
~ BG |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:46 am |
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On Aug 22, 2:42 pm, _ at (no spam) Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
[quote:60f02e7eab]Pressure accrues; were BradGuth at the center of the earth,
there'd be 6 zetta·tons of wild-hot lava converging on him, ouch !
Where's the energy source to create such a powerful vacuum there ?
[/quote:60f02e7eab]
I've never said anything about any vacuum within the core of Earth or
the moon.
Why does a void or whatever's hollow have to be without pressure?
Just answer; at what pressure does helium turn solid?
Same question goes for hydrogen and a few other mostly gaseous
elements, especially when those elements are hot.
~ BG |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:53 am |
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On Aug 19, 7:15 am, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
[quote:39a54e5451]"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6b9f6417-672f-4e93-922c-fcfa27ab61e1 at (no spam) g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 18, 3:26 pm, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6b5709eb-efcb-4553-9890-34d8064b48fa at (no spam) p36g2000prn.googlegroups.com....
On Aug 18, 12:43 pm, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
Your extraordinary witticisms make me repeatedly slap my
thighs with gales of laughter ... NOT !!!!!
But most of your zingers are not all that funny either. What gives?
btw, where's your anti-hollow-moon physics and whatever science?
Are you suggesting the innards and core of that Selene/moon is somehow
considerably more dense than the mineral saturated, unusually mascon
populated, paramagnetic, excessively meteor and asteroid impacted/
deposited, and otherwise extremely thick and dark basalt crust?
You do realize the exposed bedrock of our crystal dry and highly
electrostatic charged Selene/moon is something near or below 0.05
reflectance (every bit as dark or darker than coal, as perhaps nearly
carbon lampblack).
~ BG
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First read this, you dingaling:
http://jersey.uoregon.edu/~mstrick/AskGeoMan/geoQuerry27.html
Now, since I know that the Moon was created by an glancing-blow impact by
a
celestial object smaller than the Earth and the Moon accreted from most of
that debris, it also stands to reason that the Moon is composed mostly of
granite, and not basalt, as you so erroneously have stated in the past.
Since granite is considerably lighter than basalt, it will affect the
standard calculations of size, relative to weight and may indeed give the
impression that the Moon appears somewhat hollow, when in reality is
solid,
but composed of the lighter granite, rather than the Earth composition of
both granite and the much denser and thus heavier basalt.
Glad to help you out there, GuthBall.
Good thing you know all there is to know. However, at least that's as
good of subjective swag as any, though I don't happen to buy it, but
then I'm not the kind of dumbfounded fool on the hill that you and
others might care to think.
Btw, I've never stated the moon was made entirely of basalt. So, once
again you've proven yourself to be a liar.
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No, GuthBall, you never said one way or the other ... you just keep
insisting that it is 1 to 10% hollow, sort of a miniature version of your
cranium, which is 80 to 90% hollow. So I'm not a liar, but it makes you a
Doofus.
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The lunar crust is much thicker and tougher than any crust of Earth,
so there's no good reason to interpret that kind of reasonable science
as meaning the lunar substances within and below that robust crust are
100% solid. In fact, there could still be a gaseous core to deal
with, as well as trapped layers or pockets of mineral brines (just
like deep within Earth).
~ BG |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:45 am |
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On Aug 28, 9:13 pm, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:bb21b23749]What's the pressure at the inner most core of a planet ormoonwhen
this core of mostly atomic gasses happens to be surrounded by an
extremely robust outer crust, and the local gravity within that core
is near zero?
~ BG
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For some weird reason, it's only the Zionist Nazis and their army of
brown-nosed minions that are upset over this topic. Apparently one of
my loose cannons must have hit some kosher private parts.
~ BG |
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| Peter Webb... |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:37 pm |
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Rather than the core being hollow, it is far more likely that the core of
the moon is made from green cheese:
1. This aligns better with measurements of the moon's mass and hence average
density
2. Most cheeses are incompressible, and hence the outer layers of the moon
would not eventually collapse into the centre (as would be the case if the
mon was hollow).
HTH |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:33 am |
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On Aug 30, 10:37 pm, "Peter Webb"
<webbfam... at (no spam) DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
[quote:918446a845]Rather than the core being hollow, it is far more likely that the core of
the moon is made from green cheese:
1. This aligns better with measurements of the moon's mass and hence average
density
2. Most cheeses are incompressible, and hence the outer layers of the moon
would not eventually collapse into the centre (as would be the case if the
mon was hollow).
HTH
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Your dysfunctional 5th grade "The 1~10% green cheese moon" is noted.
Now change you diaper and take a long overdue nap.
Moon innards of sodium and other low density substances is more
likely, not that iron and other heavy elements are missing.
~ BG |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:35 am |
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On Aug 31, 10:11 am, Pat Flannery <flan... at (no spam) daktel.com> wrote:
[quote:19cd7dafbc]Peter Webb wrote:
Rather than the core being hollow, it is far more likely that the core
of the moon is made from green cheese:
1. This aligns better with measurements of the moon's mass and hence
average density
2. Most cheeses are incompressible, and hence the outer layers of the
moon would not eventually collapse into the centre (as would be the case
if the mon was hollow).
May I suggest Parmesan cheese rather than green cheese?
The impact of the Apollo S-IVB stages on the Moon made the whole Moon
ring like a bell, as was detected by the seismometers the astronauts
left on its surface.
Wheels of Parmesan cheese are checked for ripeness and quality by
tapping them with a wooden mallet and noting the sound they emit.
Also, a Italian origin for the cheese the Moon's core is made out of is
suggested by the song "That's Amore" in which the Moon "hits you in the
eye like a big pizza pie" - a concept no doubt predicated on the
resemblance of craters to pepperoni slices, lunar mountains looking like
ground sausage, and the maria looking a lot like hot tomato sauce that
flowed up through the melted Mozzarella cheese on baking after severe
impacts by large mushrooms on its surface rearranged the crust.
Pat
[/quote:19cd7dafbc]
Notice how the usual brown-nosed clowns of Usenet/newsgroups come out
to play "The 1~10% green cheese moon" game.
Obviously another of my loose cannons hit Pat squarely in his kosher
private parts, as otherwise why bother with any topic that I've
created.
Our Selene/moon simply isn't as solid and/or as densely compacted to
its core as their mainstream and public media damage control has
suggested, and lunar orbiting missions are simply not doing very well
because of all the secondary/recoil radiation, surface mascon issues,
electrostatic charged dust and that pesky sodium coming off the moon.
No wonder we only get to review 0.1% of the 100% public funded
science.
~ BG |
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| Double-A... |
| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:48 am |
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On Aug 31, 10:35 am, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:35c261347b]On Aug 31, 10:11 am, Pat Flannery <flan... at (no spam) daktel.com> wrote:
Peter Webb wrote:
Rather than the core being hollow, it is far more likely that the core
of the moon is made from green cheese:
1. This aligns better with measurements of the moon's mass and hence
average density
2. Most cheeses are incompressible, and hence the outer layers of the
moon would not eventually collapse into the centre (as would be the case
if the mon was hollow).
May I suggest Parmesan cheese rather than green cheese?
The impact of the Apollo S-IVB stages on the Moon made the whole Moon
ring like a bell, as was detected by the seismometers the astronauts
left on its surface.
Wheels of Parmesan cheese are checked for ripeness and quality by
tapping them with a wooden mallet and noting the sound they emit.
Also, a Italian origin for the cheese the Moon's core is made out of is
suggested by the song "That's Amore" in which the Moon "hits you in the
eye like a big pizza pie" - a concept no doubt predicated on the
resemblance of craters to pepperoni slices, lunar mountains looking like
ground sausage, and the maria looking a lot like hot tomato sauce that
flowed up through the melted Mozzarella cheese on baking after severe
impacts by large mushrooms on its surface rearranged the crust.
Pat
Notice how the usual brown-nosed clowns of Usenet/newsgroups come out
to play "The 1~10% green cheese moon" game.
Obviously another of my loose cannons hit Pat squarely in his kosher
private parts, as otherwise why bother with any topic that I've
created.
Our Selene/moon simply isn't as solid and/or as densely compacted to
its core as their mainstream and public media damage control has
suggested, and lunar orbiting missions are simply not doing very well
because of all the secondary/recoil radiation, surface mascon issues,
electrostatic charged dust and that pesky sodium coming off the moon.
No wonder we only get to review 0.1% of the 100% public funded
science.
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Do you suppose the moon, Selene, could be filled with selenium? Now
wouldn't that be ironic?
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:20 am |
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On Aug 31, 12:48 pm, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
[quote:edba988e26]On Aug 31, 10:35 am, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 31, 10:11 am, Pat Flannery <flan... at (no spam) daktel.com> wrote:
Peter Webb wrote:
Rather than the core being hollow, it is far more likely that the core
of the moon is made from green cheese:
1. This aligns better with measurements of the moon's mass and hence
average density
2. Most cheeses are incompressible, and hence the outer layers of the
moon would not eventually collapse into the centre (as would be the case
if the mon was hollow).
May I suggest Parmesan cheese rather than green cheese?
The impact of the Apollo S-IVB stages on the Moon made the whole Moon
ring like a bell, as was detected by the seismometers the astronauts
left on its surface.
Wheels of Parmesan cheese are checked for ripeness and quality by
tapping them with a wooden mallet and noting the sound they emit.
Also, a Italian origin for the cheese the Moon's core is made out of is
suggested by the song "That's Amore" in which the Moon "hits you in the
eye like a big pizza pie" - a concept no doubt predicated on the
resemblance of craters to pepperoni slices, lunar mountains looking like
ground sausage, and the maria looking a lot like hot tomato sauce that
flowed up through the melted Mozzarella cheese on baking after severe
impacts by large mushrooms on its surface rearranged the crust.
Pat
Notice how the usual brown-nosed clowns of Usenet/newsgroups come out
to play "The 1~10% green cheese moon" game.
Obviously another of my loose cannons hit Pat squarely in his kosher
private parts, as otherwise why bother with any topic that I've
created.
Our Selene/moon simply isn't as solid and/or as densely compacted to
its core as their mainstream and public media damage control has
suggested, and lunar orbiting missions are simply not doing very well
because of all the secondary/recoil radiation, surface mascon issues,
electrostatic charged dust and that pesky sodium coming off the moon.
No wonder we only get to review 0.1% of the 100% public funded
science.
~ BG- Hide quoted text -
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Do you suppose the moon, Selene, could be filled with selenium? Now
wouldn't that be ironic?
Double-A
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Supposedly the gamma/neutron spectrum detector of our spendy LRO
mission will give us another clue. Too bad we only get to review 0.1%
of all that public funded science. It's exactly as though they have
something to hide.
The LCROSS portion may run itself out of fuel and essentially miss
their target, so that perhaps little if any further geophysical
spectrometry data of whatever our Selene/moon represents may be DOA or
SOL as is.
~ BG |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:11 am |
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Peter Webb wrote:
[quote:ae04489d7e]Rather than the core being hollow, it is far more likely that the core
of the moon is made from green cheese:
1. This aligns better with measurements of the moon's mass and hence
average density
2. Most cheeses are incompressible, and hence the outer layers of the
moon would not eventually collapse into the centre (as would be the case
if the mon was hollow).
[/quote:ae04489d7e]
May I suggest Parmesan cheese rather than green cheese?
The impact of the Apollo S-IVB stages on the Moon made the whole Moon
ring like a bell, as was detected by the seismometers the astronauts
left on its surface.
Wheels of Parmesan cheese are checked for ripeness and quality by
tapping them with a wooden mallet and noting the sound they emit.
Also, a Italian origin for the cheese the Moon's core is made out of is
suggested by the song "That's Amore" in which the Moon "hits you in the
eye like a big pizza pie" - a concept no doubt predicated on the
resemblance of craters to pepperoni slices, lunar mountains looking like
ground sausage, and the maria looking a lot like hot tomato sauce that
flowed up through the melted Mozzarella cheese on baking after severe
impacts by large mushrooms on its surface rearranged the crust.
Pat |
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| Hagar... |
| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:33 pm |
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"BradGuth" <bradguth at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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< snip usual drivel >
If you don’t happen to like that idea of ever utilizing our moon,
there’s always the planet Venus that’s only a hundred times further
away every 19 months, and it certainly has more than a sufficient
cache of fresh water in those acidic clouds as is, as well as all the
minerals and elements of Earth, plus unlimited local energy that’s
essentially renewable to boot.
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GuthBall, perhaps you forgot, but there is one teeny problem, namely
all the good stuff on Venus is on ground level and that's a cauldron of
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:51 pm |
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On Aug 31, 2:33 pm, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
[quote:b56434fc77]"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2a0913ee-dddf-4564-a5f5-ede88aa2571e at (no spam) 13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
snip usual drivel
If you don’t happen to like that idea of ever utilizing our moon,
there’s always the planet Venus that’s only a hundred times further
away every 19 months, and it certainly has more than a sufficient
cache of fresh water in those acidic clouds as is, as well as all the
minerals and elements of Earth, plus unlimited local energy that’s
essentially renewable to boot.
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GuthBall, perhaps you forgot, but there is one teeny problem, namely
all the good stuff on Venus is on ground level and that's a cauldron of
high temperature, pressure and sulfuric acid. Good luck with that.
[/quote:b56434fc77]
True, it's hot from the ground up, perhaps because Venus isn't very
old.
However, even the worse of that thermally toasty environment isn't
outside of existing technology that can withstand and function within
811 K. There's actually a range of 600 K up to perhaps 780 K upon
that surface as depending most on elevation (-4 km to +11 km),
secondly polar/equator location and the slight day/night (+/- 10 K)
differences. There are however thousands of geothermal vents and
likely more than a few hundred active mud/lava flows that are
extremely hot (just like here on Earth).
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