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Tim Bruening...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:28 am
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How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?
 
Mike Stone...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:16 am
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"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:4A43271F.6881F049 at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
[quote:8ffbf1ec99]How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?

[/quote:8ffbf1ec99]

Do our best to always keep the Internet one or two steps ahead of would-be
censors.
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"Freddie experienced the sort of abysmal soul-sadness which afflicts one of
Tolstoy's Russian peasants when, after putting in a heavy day's work
strangling his father, beating his wife, and dropping the baby in the
reservoir, he turns to the cupboard only to find the vodka bottle empty".


P G Wodehouse - Jill the Reckless
 
David Mitchell...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:19 am
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:17:47 -0400, Sean O'Hara wrote:

[quote:aa577815ab]In the Year of the Earth Ox, the Great and Powerful Tim Bruening
declared:
How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?


"Would"? I am running a Tor node.
[/quote:aa577815ab]
Excellent. Well done that man.

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Sean O'Hara...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:17 am
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In the Year of the Earth Ox, the Great and Powerful Tim Bruening
declared:
[quote:cb8559aee4]How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?

[/quote:cb8559aee4]
"Would"? I am running a Tor node.

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New audio book: As Long as You Wish by John O'Keefe
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Sir F. A. Rien...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:25 am
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"Mike Stone" <mwstone at (no spam) aol.com> found these unused words:

[quote:4e44d2b7ed]


"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:4A43271F.6881F049 at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?



Do our best to always keep the Internet one or two steps ahead of would-be
censors.
[/quote:4e44d2b7ed]
Hard to do with all those SPAMmers about ... eh, Timmiee?
 
Jon Schild...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:15 am
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Tim Bruening wrote:
[quote:fb033be666]How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?
[/quote:fb033be666]

It doesn't matter. Whatever you do, a large number of people will
consider it morally wrong, usually meaning "HOW DARE YOU do something
that disagrees with my personal opinion?"

Then, unless you are 100% successful within about 2 weeks, millions of
idiots who have had nothing to do with planning a large operation will
condemn you, using individual words and phrases and ignoring everything
else you said or attempted to do.

If you are 100% successful within a very short time, partisan hatred
will be raised to show that you did the right thing for the wrong
reason, or some country in Europe or Asia disagrees with your methods so
you have been dragging the US through the mud, or you wasted money that
should have been spent here to increase welfare benefits, or something.

Whatever you do, you are wrong by definition.



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Tim Bruening...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:19 pm
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Mike Stone wrote:

[quote:9e215b54fc]"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:4A43271F.6881F049 at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?


Do our best to always keep the Internet one or two steps ahead of would-be
censors.
[/quote:9e215b54fc]
How do we help them keep from being killed by the Iranian government?
 
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:33 pm
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Tim Bruening wrote:
[quote:5ce7b8b3b3]
Mike Stone wrote:

"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:4A43271F.6881F049 at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?

Do our best to always keep the Internet one or two steps ahead of would-be
censors.

How do we help them keep from being killed by the Iranian government?

[/quote:5ce7b8b3b3]
Barring superhuman powers, nothing.

--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
Live Journal: http://seawasp.livejournal.com
 
Sir F. A. Rien...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:24 pm
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Jon Schild <jjs at (no spam) xmission.com> found these unused words:

[quote:e68c40068e]
Tim Bruening wrote:
How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?


It doesn't matter. Whatever you do, a large number of people will
consider it morally wrong, usually meaning "HOW DARE YOU do something
that disagrees with my personal opinion?"

Then, unless you are 100% successful within about 2 weeks, millions of
idiots who have had nothing to do with planning a large operation will
condemn you, using individual words and phrases and ignoring everything
else you said or attempted to do.

If you are 100% successful within a very short time, partisan hatred
will be raised to show that you did the right thing for the wrong
reason, or some country in Europe or Asia disagrees with your methods so
you have been dragging the US through the mud, or you wasted money that
should have been spent here to increase welfare benefits, or something.

Whatever you do, you are wrong by definition.
[/quote:e68c40068e]
Still doesn't keep the idiots from whining. Look at your Timmee --- if any
of his 'proposals' were serious, even our 'friends' would shake their heads!
 
Sir F. A. Rien...
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:25 pm
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"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp at (no spam) sgeinc.invalid.com> found these unused
words:

[quote:c682a529c5]Tim Bruening wrote:

Mike Stone wrote:

"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:4A43271F.6881F049 at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?

Do our best to always keep the Internet one or two steps ahead of would-be
censors.

How do we help them keep from being killed by the Iranian government?


Barring superhuman powers, nothing.
[/quote:c682a529c5]
Oh Dog! Now Timothea's going to don her cape and goggles ...
 
Matthew Malthouse...
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:07 pm
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:28:31 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

[quote:5508d2ad5a]How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?
[/quote:5508d2ad5a]
Do nothing.

Absolutely nothing.

Any intervention from outside, however well intentioned, however
effective, would be anything but a cause of further conflict and
dispute.

Basically the Iranians have got to sort this out for themselves.


Matthew


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Tim Bruening...
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:31 pm
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"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" wrote:

[quote:f890a45f2b]Tim Bruening wrote:

Mike Stone wrote:

"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:4A43271F.6881F049 at (no spam) pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?

Do our best to always keep the Internet one or two steps ahead of would-be
censors.

How do we help them keep from being killed by the Iranian government?


Barring superhuman powers, nothing.
[/quote:f890a45f2b]
How about supplying Iranian rebels with SAMs to shoot down Iranian helicopters,
or infecting Iranian government computers with viruses to disable the censors.

Imaginary dialogue: European governments to Iran: Stop killing the protesters, or
we'll bomb you to heck!

Obama to Sudan: Stop the killing in Darfur, or we'll bomb the heck out of you!
 
Jonathan Schattke...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:40 pm
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Tim Bruening wrote:
[quote:578ff15c87]How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?

[/quote:578ff15c87]
Convince the Shah to abdicate.

What, am I late?
 
Walter Bushell...
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:33 pm
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In article <h2jgob$cm0$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org>,
Jonathan Schattke <wizwom at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

[quote:d35994c991]Tim Bruening wrote:
How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?


Convince the Shah to abdicate.

What, am I late?
[/quote:d35994c991]
Not only that we put the Shaw in power to thwart the will of the Iranian
people. He was our guy to sit on them and support American interests.
 
Sir F. A. Rien...
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:08 am
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Walter Bushell <proto at (no spam) panix.com> found these unused words:

[quote:f99571c53b]In article <h2jgob$cm0$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org>,
Jonathan Schattke <wizwom at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Tim Bruening wrote:
How would you go about helping the Iranian people win their freedom?


Convince the Shah to abdicate.

What, am I late?

Not only that we put the Shaw in power to thwart the will of the Iranian
people. He was our guy to sit on them and support American interests.
[/quote:f99571c53b]
The "Shaw", George Bernard ???
 
 
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