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| E H Wollmann Professional Astrologer... |
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Free will exists on all levels. Before incarnation the free will of
the higher self determines through vibrational frequency and
explorational necessity, the idea as a physical being you wish to
express and experience. This is then a "frozen vibrational frequency"
in the reflection known as the HOROSCOPE (time view). This is the
"Hallway" (Bashar) of incarnational choice-THE FREE WILL OF THE HIGHER
SELF. If the universe was closed ended-there would exist NO ABILITY
FOR SELF REFLECTION. The horoscope therefore helps us understand and
FULFILL these choices.
As an incarnate being the identity then through conscious commandment
as a conscious being-an ego self (false face or persona) can then ACT
on this hallway. You can go down this hallway in an integrated way,
happy, sad, focused, unfocused, with inspiration, with despair, with
joy or out of integrity-BUT GO DOWN THIS HALLWAY YOU HAVE ALREADY
WILLED. This is what the horoscope IS, it is the hallway that the free
will of the higher self has chosen. The free will of the physical self
then directs this choice through conscious choice, action is the
conviction of belief.
Belief determines definitions, definitions determine behavior, reality
creation and experience. It is ALWAYS free will, it always works based
upon the belief and definitions held CONSCIOUSLY, UNCONSCIOUSLY AND AS
THE EFFECT OF HIGHER WILL CHOICES.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPeAcLKNOM&feature=channel
The appearance of fate is simply unrecognized choice-choices made at
other levels by you-for you-to explore the you you are. Even if you
CHOOSE to create the illusion that you have no free will-it is still a
choice and you are using your creative power to do so-even if you use
90% to create the illusion you only have 10%. Everything therefore-in
everyone's life-is there for a reason THEIR reason, there is something
within the scenario they wish and have WILLED to learn from, observe,
reflect on and understand.
"He who has so little knowledge of human nature as to seek happiness
by changing anything but his own disposition, will waste his life in
fruitless efforts and multiply the griefs which he proposes to
remove." Webster
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
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| BOfL... |
| Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:17 pm |
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On Jun 8, 9:52 am, E H Wollmann Professional Astrologer
<acheaopt... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:f8e412428d]Free will exists on all levels. Before incarnation the free will of
the higher self determines through vibrational frequency and
explorational necessity, the idea as a physical being you wish to
express and experience. This is then a "frozen vibrational frequency"
in the reflection known as the HOROSCOPE (time view). This is the
"Hallway" (Bashar) of incarnational choice-THE FREE WILL OF THE HIGHER
SELF. If the universe was closed ended-there would exist NO ABILITY
FOR SELF REFLECTION. The horoscope therefore helps us understand and
FULFILL these choices.
As an incarnate being the identity then through conscious commandment
as a conscious being-an ego self (false face or persona) can then ACT
on this hallway. You can go down this hallway in an integrated way,
happy, sad, focused, unfocused, with inspiration, with despair, with
joy or out of integrity-BUT GO DOWN THIS HALLWAY YOU HAVE ALREADY
WILLED. This is what the horoscope IS, it is the hallway that the free
will of the higher self has chosen. The free will of the physical self
then directs this choice through conscious choice, action is the
conviction of belief.
Belief determines definitions, definitions determine behavior, reality
creation and experience. It is ALWAYS free will, it always works based
upon the belief and definitions held CONSCIOUSLY, UNCONSCIOUSLY AND AS
THE EFFECT OF HIGHER WILL CHOICES.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPeAcLKNOM&feature=channel
The appearance of fate is simply unrecognized choice-choices made at
other levels by you-for you-to explore the you you are. Even if you
CHOOSE to create the illusion that you have no free will-it is still a
choice and you are using your creative power to do so-even if you use
90% to create the illusion you only have 10%. Everything therefore-in
everyone's life-is there for a reason THEIR reason, there is something
within the scenario they wish and have WILLED to learn from, observe,
reflect on and understand.
"He who has so little knowledge of human nature as to seek happiness
by changing anything but his own disposition, will waste his life in
fruitless efforts and multiply the griefs which he proposes to
remove." Webster
[/quote:f8e412428d]
Whether one believes or has investigated astrology or numerology or
not, what Ed has described above is PRECISELY what happens. This is
the reason there is ALWAYS progress in the ways of men,intellectually,
socially, artistically and philosophically, unlike any other species.
The desire to discover is ONLY related to 'self'. This is also why
such lumminaries as Einstein disclose their 'higher' points of view,
and why all other species evolve only in a biological way. Dolphins or
chimps do not get smarter. There biological progress is
complete.Little point in doing the chart of a gorilla for instance.
Many ridicule such languages as astrology and numerology, also
explained in his piece, and is why those who know dont get riled,
because they also know what it was like not to know. Not that Im
saying such specific investigations are necessary. What they do
illustrate is a body of evidence that goes beyond the intellectual. I
know of some esteemed scientists (a couple personally), who
acknowledge numerology and/or astrology.Science and metaphysics are
not mutually exclusive, unless you believe they are, and we all know
how irrational beliefs can be. A weekend in the middle east would
illustrate that...but of course the inhabitants are not there by
coincidence!
BOfL |
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:44 pm |
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On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:52:54 -0700 (PDT), in alt.astrology, E H
Wollmann Professional Astrologer <acheaoptryx at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:6bc7067e1c]Free will exists on all levels. Before incarnation the free will of
the higher self determines through vibrational frequency and
explorational necessity, the idea as a physical being you wish to
express and experience. This is then a "frozen vibrational frequency"
in the reflection known as the HOROSCOPE (time view). This is
[/quote:6bc7067e1c]
utter nonsense.
How many times has Edmond contradicted his opening statement?
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Ak'toh'di |
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| Dave U. Random... |
| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:02 pm |
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In article <4A2DD774.2A65 at (no spam) earthlink.net>
Edmond Wollmann <arcturianone at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote:f0068d199f]
Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
[/quote:f0068d199f]
Thwarted, as usual.
How does it serve you to be a childish kook? |
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| A B... |
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:16 am |
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"BOfL" <bigfletch8 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote (8th June):
[quote:14036b39c9]...all other species evolve only in a biological way. Dolphins or
chimps do not get smarter. There biological progress is
complete. Little point in doing the chart of a gorilla for instance.
[/quote:14036b39c9]
A lowland gorilla called Koko learnt American Sign Language. Does this
count as "getting smarter", and if not, what does?
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla)
Her DoB is July 4th 1971. Wonder what her chart would show?
Thanks for the rest of the posting. I quite agree. Although I'm not sure
how numerology came into it?
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| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:30 pm |
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On Jun 7, 9:17 pm, BOfL <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:d0f5f35c91]Many ridicule such languages as astrology and numerology,
[/quote:d0f5f35c91]
They're not languages. Languages, after all, communicate
something of actual *use* on rare occasions.
Got anything else you want to see ridiculed?
-Chris Krolczyk |
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:25 pm |
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On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 18:16:50 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a>
wrote:
[quote:e7b9ac773e]
"BOfL" <bigfletch8 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote (8th June):
...all other species evolve only in a biological way. Dolphins or
chimps do not get smarter. There biological progress is
complete. Little point in doing the chart of a gorilla for instance.
A lowland gorilla called Koko learnt American Sign Language. Does this
count as "getting smarter", and if not, what does?
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla)
Her DoB is July 4th 1971. Wonder what her chart would show?
[/quote:e7b9ac773e]
She is smarter than Old Pantyhead?
The ability to learn other languages is not an instinct, but a
learned ability.
Edmond state he didn't know what an instinct was, I once had it
explained as a reaction to even which is not a learned response.
A newborn baby will blink his eyes in response to a loud noise.
That's an instinctive reaction. Just as a newborn baby will turn
their head in the direction of the cheek that was just stroked with a
thumb.
[quote:e7b9ac773e]Thanks for the rest of the posting. I quite agree. Although I'm not sure
how numerology came into it?
[/quote:e7b9ac773e]
that's another one of those Apophenic Projections.
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| BOfL... |
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:11 pm |
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On Jun 10, 9:30 am, arfiend2... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
[quote:a87b6903d9]On Jun 7, 9:17 pm, BOfL <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Many ridicule such languages as astrology and numerology,
They're not languages. Languages, after all, communicate
something of actual *use* on rare occasions.
Got anything else you want to see ridiculed?
-Chris Krolczyk
[/quote:a87b6903d9]
Go tell that to Pythagoras (but dont tell any mathematicians you are
doing so. They hold him in high regard, and might ridicule you.
Experience is the only teacher, and you have obviously not looked at
the evidence.
BOfL |
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| Santim Vah... |
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:34 pm |
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On Jun 8, 12:17 pm, BOfL <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:db14ed0ccd]On Jun 8, 9:52 am, E H Wollmann Professional Astrologer
acheaopt... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Free will exists on all levels. Before incarnation the free will of
the higher self determines through vibrational frequency and
explorational necessity, the idea as a physical being you wish to
express and experience. This is then a "frozen vibrational frequency"
in the reflection known as the HOROSCOPE (time view). This is the
"Hallway" (Bashar) of incarnational choice-THE FREE WILL OF THE HIGHER
SELF. If the universe was closed ended-there would exist NO ABILITY
FOR SELF REFLECTION. The horoscope therefore helps us understand and
FULFILL these choices.
As an incarnate being the identity then through conscious commandment
as a conscious being-an ego self (false face or persona) can then ACT
on this hallway. You can go down this hallway in an integrated way,
happy, sad, focused, unfocused, with inspiration, with despair, with
joy or out of integrity-BUT GO DOWN THIS HALLWAY YOU HAVE ALREADY
WILLED. This is what the horoscope IS, it is the hallway that the free
will of the higher self has chosen. The free will of the physical self
then directs this choice through conscious choice, action is the
conviction of belief.
Belief determines definitions, definitions determine behavior, reality
creation and experience. It is ALWAYS free will, it always works based
upon the belief and definitions held CONSCIOUSLY, UNCONSCIOUSLY AND AS
THE EFFECT OF HIGHER WILL CHOICES.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPeAcLKNOM&feature=channel
The appearance of fate is simply unrecognized choice-choices made at
other levels by you-for you-to explore the you you are. Even if you
CHOOSE to create the illusion that you have no free will-it is still a
choice and you are using your creative power to do so-even if you use
90% to create the illusion you only have 10%. Everything therefore-in
everyone's life-is there for a reason THEIR reason, there is something
within the scenario they wish and have WILLED to learn from, observe,
reflect on and understand.
"He who has so little knowledge of human nature as to seek happiness
by changing anything but his own disposition, will waste his life in
fruitless efforts and multiply the griefs which he proposes to
remove." Webster
Whether one believes or has investigated astrology or numerology or
not, what Ed has described above is PRECISELY what happens. This is
the reason there is ALWAYS progress in the ways of men,intellectually,
socially, artistically and philosophically, unlike any other species.
The desire to discover is ONLY related to 'self'. This is also why
such lumminaries as Einstein disclose their 'higher' points of view,
and why all other species evolve only in a biological way. Dolphins or
chimps do not get smarter. There biological progress is
complete.Little point in doing the chart of a gorilla for instance.
Many ridicule such languages as astrology and numerology, also
explained in his piece, and is why those who know dont get riled,
because they also know what it was like not to know. Not that Im
saying such specific investigations are necessary. What they do
illustrate is a body of evidence that goes beyond the intellectual. I
know of some esteemed scientists (a couple personally), who
acknowledge numerology and/or astrology.Science and metaphysics are
not mutually exclusive, unless you believe they are, and we all know
how irrational beliefs can be. A weekend in the middle east would
illustrate that...but of course the inhabitants are not there by
coincidence!
BOfL
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Hi Mr BOfl <smile>
It was a super excellent post by EHW. Very well put. In fact, to get
all that Knowledge in so few lines of text, is pretty amazing, IMO. I
think I should either copy/paste it, or just plagiarise. What would
you recommend? hehehe
I have told you before about an old friend who developed [ or
borrowed ] the term Not-Knower?
Seems pretty appropriate how you used it, and it sure does apply to
the rest of the responses here. Which as you know is just fine and
dandy .
Hope you're well mate, been a busy boy elsewhere.
Effing damn cold here in Sydney town mate, my god, I am such a Qlder.
How did you ever handle Liverpool? Yikes.
Cheers Sean
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PS here's an interesting Astrological take on the USA.
If anyone on the astro groups wants to offer up some feedback I would
be more than interested in hearing it.
http://www.hermes3.net/scorpusa.htm
Brian, numerologically it means the "true" DOB for the USA is Nov. 15,
1777 at 12:46pm vs 4th July 1776.
Look at the Pythagorian Chart box .... 4 x 1's, 1 x 5, and 3 x 7's -
like a distant mountain with the 5 [ change ] holding it all
together.
OUCH 4 x 1's - now THAT makes MUCH more sense to me than just having 1
x 1. What you think??
=== a 30/3 Ruling Life ?? vs a 32/5 for July 1776 ??
Seems to me the nation is well and truly in a a very deep 7 period?
What do you think?
chow amigo
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| Edmond Wollmann... |
| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:56 pm |
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On Jun 9, 10:16 am, "A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote:
[quote:4bff1dcb37]"BOfL" <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote (8th June):
...all other species evolve only in a biological way. Dolphins or
chimps do not get smarter. There biological progress is
complete. Little point in doing the chart of a gorilla for instance.
A lowland gorilla called Koko learnt American Sign Language. Does this
count as "getting smarter", and if not, what does?
See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla)
Her DoB is July 4th 1971. Wonder what her chart would show?
Thanks for the rest of the posting. I quite agree. Although I'm not sure
how numerology came into it?
A. B.
[/quote:4bff1dcb37]
If you study metaphysics, it is quite impossible to not know that
numerology, palmistry, astrology, alchemy--all were once considered
the "higher learning" that signified an intelligent and evolved
person. Astrology and numerology are different manifestations of
numbers.
As for the astrology of animals or pets etc./ I do think they will
carry the qualities of the astrological signature, but a human (and
cetation) are the only individual "souls" on the planet that can
experience the effect of a persona, which is an outgrowth of the
chosen path in this life. The animal really does not have free will in
that sense, and so the idea of instinct (in my world) is the animals
linking to the consciousness of the species it belongs to. Hence, they
act more as a collective consciousness than individual ego constructs.
I hope that explains it.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Academic http://www.astroconsulting.com/SDSU
Artistic http://www.e-wollmann.com/ |
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In article <0b99f627-2eb9-4937-9a74-169b227dac6d at (no spam) b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
Edmond Wollmann <AArctophilax at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:f89a891946]
On Jun 9, 10:16=A0am, "A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote:
"BOfL" <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote (8th June):
...all other species evolve only in a biological way. Dolphins or
chimps do not get smarter. There biological progress is
complete. =A0Little point in doing the chart of a gorilla for instance.
A lowland gorilla called Koko learnt American Sign Language. =A0Does this
count as "getting smarter", and if not, what does?
See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla)
Her DoB is July 4th 1971. =A0Wonder what her chart would show?
Thanks for the rest of the posting. =A0I quite agree. =A0Although I'm not=
sure
how numerology came into it?
A. B.
If you study metaphysics, it is quite impossible to not know that
numerology, palmistry, astrology, alchemy--all were once considered
the "higher learning" that signified an intelligent and evolved
person. Astrology and numerology are different manifestations of
numbers.
As for the astrology of animals or pets etc./ I do think they will
carry the qualities of the astrological signature, but a human (and
cetation) are the only individual "souls" on the planet that can
experience the effect of a persona, which is an outgrowth of the
chosen path in this life. The animal really does not have free will in
that sense, and so the idea of instinct (in my world) is the animals
linking to the consciousness of the species it belongs to. Hence, they
act more as a collective consciousness than individual ego constructs.
I hope that explains it.
[/quote:f89a891946]
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| BaronLurk... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:16 am |
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:33:49 +0000 (UTC), Cujo DeSockpuppet
<cujo at (no spam) petitmorte.net> wrote:
[quote:c94bde97f9]Edmond Wollmann <AArctophilax at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in
news:0b99f627-2eb9-4937-9a74-169b227dac6d at (no spam) b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
On Jun 9, 10:16 am, "A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote:
"BOfL" <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote (8th June):
...all other species evolve only in a biological way. Dolphins or
chimps do not get smarter. There biological progress is
complete. Little point in doing the chart of a gorilla for
instance.
A lowland gorilla called Koko learnt American Sign Language. Does
this count as "getting smarter", and if not, what does?
See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla)
Her DoB is July 4th 1971. Wonder what her chart would show?
Thanks for the rest of the posting. I quite agree. Although I'm not
sure
how numerology came into it?
A. B.
If you study metaphysics, it is quite impossible to not know that
numerology, palmistry, astrology, alchemy--all were once considered
the "higher learning" that signified an intelligent and evolved
person. Astrology and numerology are different manifestations of
numbers.
It's what's called superstition because it's lacking in validity. It's
amazing how you'll whine about religion and not see that astrology has
even less basis in fact than most religions. That's one of the many
reasons why you have no credibility, Pantyhead.
As for the astrology of animals or pets etc./ I do think they will
carry the qualities of the astrological signature, but a human (and
cetation) are the only individual "souls" on the planet that can
experience the effect of a persona, which is an outgrowth of the
chosen path in this life. The animal really does not have free will in
that sense, and so the idea of instinct (in my world) is the animals
linking to the consciousness of the species it belongs to. Hence, they
act more as a collective consciousness than individual ego constructs.
I hope that explains it.
This is right up there with your "dinosaurs and lesser gravity" theory.
I hereby nominate Edmo "Pantyhead" Wollmann for the Victor Von
Frankenstein Weird Science Award for his astrology for animals that have
souls post above.
Seconds?
[/quote:c94bde97f9]
This fine nomination is Seconded. |
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| Chris Krolczyk... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:00 am |
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On Jun 11, 3:27 pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian... at (no spam) earthlink.net>
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[quote:e909759c7c]"What you are speaks so loudly, that I can't hear what you are saying."
Walt Whitman
[/quote:e909759c7c]
Try to have a point the next time you haul Walt's poetry
out to bugger it, Wollkook.
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| Edmond Wollmann... |
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arfiend2009 at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
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On Jun 7, 9:17 pm, BOfL <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Many ridicule such languages as astrology and numerology,
They're not languages. Languages, after all, communicate
something of actual *use* on rare occasions.
Got anything else you want to see ridiculed?
-Chris Krolczyk
[/quote:f03c86bc10]
"What you are speaks so loudly, that I can't hear what you are saying."
Walt Whitman
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Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:19 pm |
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In article <4A3168B2.2BC0 at (no spam) earthlink.net>
Edmond Wollmann <arcturianone at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote:2fe7997dcd]
arfiend2009 at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 7, 9:17 pm, BOfL <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Many ridicule such languages as astrology and numerology,
They're not languages. Languages, after all, communicate
something of actual *use* on rare occasions.
Got anything else you want to see ridiculed?
-Chris Krolczyk
"What you are speaks so loudly, that I can't hear what you are saying."
Walt Whitman
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