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| awthrawthr... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:35 am |
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Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
day....they kill cancer cells.
Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
"We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
one week:
http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1353288&spid=22807
Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
listen for themselves. |
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| kaypeeoh... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:15 am |
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On Jun 4, 10:35 am, awthrawthr <awthraw... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:b63a65678c]Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
day....they kill cancer cells.
Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
"We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
one week:
http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1353288&spid=22807
Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
listen for themselves.
[/quote:b63a65678c]
This is the third instance I've read of someone with prostate disease
using habaneros. But a search of medline and google scholar showed no
papers published that show burning your lips off can cure prostate
cancer.
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| awthrawthr... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:42 pm |
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On Jun 4, 5:09 pm, dbu' <nos... at (no spam) nobama.com.invalid> wrote:
[quote:ad6ff1a17f]In article
88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec... at (no spam) r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
awthrawthr <awthraw... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
day....they kill cancer cells.
Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
"We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
one week:
http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1353288&spid=22807
Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
listen for themselves.
Don really needs to see a doctor and get that treated soon, unless he
just feels like giving up altogether.
--
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
"The Captain"- Hide quoted text -
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[/quote:ad6ff1a17f]
Don Imus is having his case overseen by two of the top urologists in
the US, according to Don's own words in the audio. One is at Columbia
University and the other is at UCLA. They are the ones who have
conducted the tests such as the c-reacive protein and SED rates which
are now zero, and the PSA-3 urinalysis which is moving dramatically in
the right direction, down from 200 to now 59.
In other words, the physicians are observing and charting his cure -
my cure - instead of causing his demise. |
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| awthrawthr... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:31 pm |
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On Jun 4, 6:05 pm, d... at (no spam) thekraal.com (madiba) wrote:
[quote:561e4c9fad]Jan Drew <jdrew1... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote:
While it is far easier to cure cancer in mice infected with human tumors
than it is in human beings, the findings suggest a possible future
treatment. They also may offer a good excuse for men who like spicy food to
eat more of it. Lehmann estimated that the mice ate the human equivalent of
400 milligrams of capsaicin three times a week. That is about the amount
found in three to eight fresh habanero peppers, depending on how hot the
peppers are.
The capsaicin inhibited the activity of NF-kappa beta, a molecular mechanism
that helps lead to apoptosis in many cell types. Prostate cancer is the most
common malignant cancer in U.S. men. It is diagnosed in 232,000 men every
year and kills up to 30,000 of them. Worldwide, 221,000 men die every year
from prostate cancer.
So now they eat dozens of habaneros for months or years, and get
esophageal cancer as a 'bonus'! No thanks, prostate cancer is easier to
treat.
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madiba
[/quote:561e4c9fad]
You'll be happy to know that I suggest eating only one pepper a
day...although Imus is eating two to three a day...and stopping when
they are no longer needed.
I would not eat habaneros very often if I was cancer free because some
herbs are for healing while others are for maintaining and
strengthening. Otherwise the nerves might get overused from the
peppers, become numb or worse. So they would stop working as to their
intended purpose.
I'd rather have the habs available for use when they are needed. Much
milder peppers would be okay for more regular use. In places without
refrigeration, they also serve a purpose in helping preserve the food.
Let me repeat habaneros are NOT an everyday food at all and I would
only eat them rarely if at all, unless I were sick and needed them to
get well. Once well. I'd stop eating them. |
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| Mark Probert... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:59 pm |
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On Jun 4, 5:15 pm, kaypeeoh <kevinone... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:e4a7babf93]On Jun 4, 10:35 am, awthrawthr <awthraw... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
day....they kill cancer cells.
Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
"We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
one week:
http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1353288&spid=22807
Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
listen for themselves.
This is the third instance I've read of someone with prostate disease
using habaneros. But a search of medline and google scholar showed no
papers published that show burning your lips off can cure prostate
cancer.
kpo
[/quote:e4a7babf93]
Depends on where your lips are. |
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| dbu... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:09 pm |
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In article
<88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd at (no spam) r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
awthrawthr <awthrawthr at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:b29571e6ae]Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
day....they kill cancer cells.
Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
"We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
one week:
http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1353288&spid=22807
Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
listen for themselves.
[/quote:b29571e6ae]
Don really needs to see a doctor and get that treated soon, unless he
just feels like giving up altogether.
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"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
"The Captain" |
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| Jan Drew... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:34 pm |
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"kaypeeoh" <kevinoneall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:106620b0-a606-4c7f-ab53-5c095c0dbc99 at (no spam) g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 4, 10:35 am, awthrawthr <awthraw... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:ef62946854]Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
day....they kill cancer cells.
Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
"We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
one week:
http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1353288&spid=22807
Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
listen for themselves.
[/quote:ef62946854]
This is the third instance I've read of someone with prostate disease
using habaneros. But a search of medline and google scholar showed no
papers published that show burning your lips off can cure prostate
cancer.
kpo
Source: Reuters
WASHINGTON, March 15 (Reuters) - 16 Mar 2006 00:33:22 GMT - Capsaicin, which
makes peppers hot, can cause prostate cancer cells to kill themselves, U.S.
and Japanese researchers said on Wednesday. Capsaicin led 80 percent of
human prostate cancer cells growing in mice to commit suicide in a process
known as apoptosis, the researchers said. Prostate cancer tumors in mice fed
capsaicin were about one-fifth the size of tumors in untreated mice, they
reported in the journal Cancer Research.
"Capsaicin had a profound anti-proliferative effect on human prostate cancer
cells in culture," said Dr. Soren Lehmann of the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center
and the University of California Los Angeles School of Medicine. "It also
dramatically slowed the development of prostate tumors formed by those human
cell lines grown in mouse models."
While it is far easier to cure cancer in mice infected with human tumors
than it is in human beings, the findings suggest a possible future
treatment. They also may offer a good excuse for men who like spicy food to
eat more of it. Lehmann estimated that the mice ate the human equivalent of
400 milligrams of capsaicin three times a week. That is about the amount
found in three to eight fresh habanero peppers, depending on how hot the
peppers are.
The capsaicin inhibited the activity of NF-kappa beta, a molecular mechanism
that helps lead to apoptosis in many cell types. Prostate cancer is the most
common malignant cancer in U.S. men. It is diagnosed in 232,000 men every
year and kills up to 30,000 of them. Worldwide, 221,000 men die every year
from prostate cancer. |
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| Paul T. Holland... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:42 pm |
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dbu' wrote:
[quote:6c5260ba8f]In article
88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd at (no spam) r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
awthrawthr <awthrawthr at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
day....they kill cancer cells.
Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
"We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
one week:
http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1353288&spid=22807
Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
listen for themselves.
Don really needs to see a doctor and get that treated soon, unless he
just feels like giving up altogether.
[/quote:6c5260ba8f]
he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
advice. |
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| madiba... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:05 pm |
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Jan Drew <jdrew1374 at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[quote:9e5dda0d84]While it is far easier to cure cancer in mice infected with human tumors
than it is in human beings, the findings suggest a possible future
treatment. They also may offer a good excuse for men who like spicy food to
eat more of it. Lehmann estimated that the mice ate the human equivalent of
400 milligrams of capsaicin three times a week. That is about the amount
found in three to eight fresh habanero peppers, depending on how hot the
peppers are.
The capsaicin inhibited the activity of NF-kappa beta, a molecular mechanism
that helps lead to apoptosis in many cell types. Prostate cancer is the most
common malignant cancer in U.S. men. It is diagnosed in 232,000 men every
year and kills up to 30,000 of them. Worldwide, 221,000 men die every year
from prostate cancer.
So now they eat dozens of habaneros for months or years, and get[/quote:9e5dda0d84]
esophageal cancer as a 'bonus'! No thanks, prostate cancer is easier to
treat.
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| Happy Oyster... |
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:17 pm |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 01:05:54 +0200, down at (no spam) thekraal.com (madiba) wrote:
Hi, madiba, I several times tried to contact you. How can I send you an email?
Thank you,
Aribert Deckers
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DIE ERSTE REIMBIBEL SEIT DEM MITTELALTER
http://www.reimbibel.de |
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| Andre... |
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:03 am |
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Did "awthrawthr" aka William Eidem, already mention that he is trying to
promote his book with this nonsense ? Just wait and see, it won't take
long. |
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| awthrawthr... |
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:28 am |
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On Jun 5, 3:03 am, "Andre" <patrouil... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote:515db841ce]Did "awthrawthr" aka William Eidem, already mention that he is trying to
promote his book with this nonsense ? Just wait and see, it won't take
long.
[/quote:515db841ce]
I am the author of a book. My recipe was developed by me based in part
from what I learned while conducting research for the book. My recipe
is free. I don't even collect email addresses in return for the
recipe.
IOW, while my book is doing quite well more than a decade after its
original publication, and I don't apologize for its continued success,
the recipe stands on its own. |
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| Steve Kramer... |
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:29 am |
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Please don't cross post.
"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374 at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:0_XVl.12409$im1.12270 at (no spam) nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
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: "kaypeeoh" <kevinoneall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
: news:106620b0-a606-4c7f-ab53-5c095c0dbc99 at (no spam) g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 4, 10:35 am, awthrawthr <awthraw... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
: > Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
: >
: > Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
: > what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
: > planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
: > day....they kill cancer cells.
: >
: > Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
: >
: > Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
: > tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
: >
: > "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
: >
: > On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
: > score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
: > and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
: >
: > Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
: > one week:
: >
: > http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1353288&spid=22807
: >
: > Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
: > listen for themselves.
:
: This is the third instance I've read of someone with prostate disease
: using habaneros. But a search of medline and google scholar showed no
: papers published that show burning your lips off can cure prostate
: cancer.
:
: kpo
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: Source: Reuters
: WASHINGTON, March 15 (Reuters) - 16 Mar 2006 00:33:22 GMT - Capsaicin,
which
: makes peppers hot, can cause prostate cancer cells to kill themselves,
U.S.
: and Japanese researchers said on Wednesday. Capsaicin led 80 percent of
: human prostate cancer cells growing in mice to commit suicide in a process
: known as apoptosis, the researchers said. Prostate cancer tumors in mice
fed
: capsaicin were about one-fifth the size of tumors in untreated mice, they
: reported in the journal Cancer Research.
:
: "Capsaicin had a profound anti-proliferative effect on human prostate
cancer
: cells in culture," said Dr. Soren Lehmann of the Cedars-Sinai Medical
Center
: and the University of California Los Angeles School of Medicine. "It also
: dramatically slowed the development of prostate tumors formed by those
human
: cell lines grown in mouse models."
:
: While it is far easier to cure cancer in mice infected with human tumors
: than it is in human beings, the findings suggest a possible future
: treatment. They also may offer a good excuse for men who like spicy food
to
: eat more of it. Lehmann estimated that the mice ate the human equivalent
of
: 400 milligrams of capsaicin three times a week. That is about the amount
: found in three to eight fresh habanero peppers, depending on how hot the
: peppers are.
:
: The capsaicin inhibited the activity of NF-kappa beta, a molecular
mechanism
: that helps lead to apoptosis in many cell types. Prostate cancer is the
most
: common malignant cancer in U.S. men. It is diagnosed in 232,000 men every
: year and kills up to 30,000 of them. Worldwide, 221,000 men die every year
: from prostate cancer.
:
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| Steve Kramer... |
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:34 am |
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Amazing how your name never came up in any news article that I've seen, nor
many details into Imus's treatment.
BEWARE OF FRAUDS.
"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d45fc68-8f5d-4815-b5b9-7562c8bbad10 at (no spam) k2g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
Don Imus is having his case overseen - OVERSEEN? - by two of the top
urologists - SURGEONS? - in
the US, according to Don's own words in the audio. One is at Columbia
University and the other is at UCLA - I DON'T KNOW OF ANY 'TOP' UROS IN
THESE SCHOOLS -. They are the ones who have
conducted the tests such as the c-reacive protein and SED rates which
are now zero, and the PSA-3 urinalysis which is moving dramatically in
the right direction, down from 200 to now 59. - URNINALISYS?!?!? AND I
KEEP GETTING STUCK WITH A NEEDLE!!!
In other words, the physicians are observing and charting his cure -
my cure - instead of causing his demise. LIES, LIES, LIES. |
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| Steve Kramer... |
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:35 am |
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Just realized I cross posted re this fraud. I apologize.
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