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John Fields...
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:44 pm
Guest
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:53:30 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com>
wrote:

[quote:a317669a53]On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:52:46 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:19:04 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:06:26 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:35:28 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:


He was deeply in love. When she spoke, he thought he heard bells, as if
she were a dustcart reversing.

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leaving you alone again, naturally?

What?

Huh?

I did not follow your response to my sig.
[/quote:a317669a53]
---
Really?

That's sad, but just like it's not your problem to set the line wrap
when you post, it's not my problem to learn you up.

JF
 
Peter Hucker...
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:36 pm
Guest
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:36:12 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

[quote:4b24dcdddc]On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:53:12 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:48:55 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:14:24 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:45:16 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

It's easy enough to insert and fix up his post, but most of the time
it's "Why bother?"

Why bother getting a news client that can word wrap when replying? I dunno, ask yourself.

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Since yours is the source of the problem, why not fix yours?

What causes the problem is irrelevant.

---
You're the cause of the problem, so I'll concede the point and agree
with you.
[/quote:4b24dcdddc]
No, the people who can't interpret a non-carriage returned line are the problem.

[quote:4b24dcdddc]What _isn't_ irrelevant is the problem itself and the inconvenience it
causes those who wish to reply to your posts.
[/quote:4b24dcdddc]
They can get decent software.

[quote:4b24dcdddc]_Not_ fixing it when, ostensibly, you could with a few key clicks is
raising pig-headedness to a new low and speaks volumes about your
character.
[/quote:4b24dcdddc]
It wouldn't be "fixing" it, it would be "changing" it. I don't want narrow columns of text on my wide screen.


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Peter Hucker...
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:36 pm
Guest
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:44:33 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

[quote:46fac370a7]On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:53:30 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:52:46 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:19:04 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:06:26 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:35:28 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:




---
leaving you alone again, naturally?

What?

Huh?

I did not follow your response to my sig.

---
Really?

That's sad, but just like it's not your problem to set the line wrap
when you post, it's not my problem to learn you up.
[/quote:46fac370a7]
Posting a joke that the victim doesn't understand defeats the purpose.

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Microsoft: This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
 
krw...
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:39 pm
Guest
In article <op.uo7fjiin4buhsv at (no spam) i7>, none at (no spam) spam.com says...>
[quote:f258f80a70]On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:44:33 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:53:30 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:52:46 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:19:04 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:06:26 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:35:28 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:




---
leaving you alone again, naturally?

What?

Huh?

I did not follow your response to my sig.

---
Really?

That's sad, but just like it's not your problem to set the line wrap
when you post, it's not my problem to learn you up.

Posting a joke that the victim doesn't understand defeats the purpose.
[/quote:f258f80a70]
Kinda defeats the purpose of every replying to you.
 
John Fields...
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:39 am
Guest
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:36:44 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com>
wrote:

[quote:8246cbd3e3]On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:44:33 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:53:30 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:52:46 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:19:04 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:06:26 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:35:28 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:




---
leaving you alone again, naturally?

What?

Huh?

I did not follow your response to my sig.

---
Really?

That's sad, but just like it's not your problem to set the line wrap
when you post, it's not my problem to learn you up.

Posting a joke that the victim doesn't understand defeats the purpose.
[/quote:8246cbd3e3]
---
It wasn't a joke, it suited my purpose perfectly, and if you didn't
understand it, oh well...

JF
 
krw...
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:54 pm
Guest
In article <op.uo85jyhj4buhsv at (no spam) i7>, none at (no spam) spam.com says...>
[quote:c40a5c6849]On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:39:27 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:36:44 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:44:33 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:53:30 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:52:46 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:19:04 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:06:26 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:35:28 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:




---
leaving you alone again, naturally?

What?

Huh?

I did not follow your response to my sig.

---
Really?

That's sad, but just like it's not your problem to set the line wrap
when you post, it's not my problem to learn you up.

Posting a joke that the victim doesn't understand defeats the purpose.

---
It wasn't a joke, it suited my purpose perfectly,

What you mean was it was a serious joke.
[/quote:c40a5c6849]
No, *you* are a serious joke; nothing funny about it.

[quote:c40a5c6849]and if you didn't understand it, oh well...

Wasted exercise.
[/quote:c40a5c6849]
Talking sense to one PHucker, certainly.
 
John Fields...
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:38 pm
Guest
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:56:12 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com>
wrote:

[quote:58ed2f1dbf]On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:39:27 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:36:44 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:
Posting a joke that the victim doesn't understand defeats the purpose.

---
It wasn't a joke, it suited my purpose perfectly,

What you mean was it was a serious joke.
[/quote:58ed2f1dbf]
---
What a pompous ass you are, telling me what I meant.
I meant exactly what I said, and if you can't cope with the fact that
your ignorance keeps you from understanding certain things, then oh
well, Boo-hoo-hoo.
---

[quote:58ed2f1dbf]and if you didn't understand it, oh well...

Wasted exercise.
[/quote:58ed2f1dbf]
---
No, it wasn't since, your response and continued response to it paints a
more accurate picture of who you are.

JF
 
Peter Hucker...
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:30 pm
Guest
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:07:48 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

[quote:c8deb2b78f]On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:37:20 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:09:29 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:59:36 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:20:21 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:09:59 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:49:26 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:19:03 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:



---
Nope.

When you've been insulted, you've been insulted whether you know it or
not.

Sometimes it's even sweeter if don't understand the insult because that
shows off your stupidity.

The point of insulting someone is to annoy them.

---
So say you, but there are many more reasons than that to insult someone.
---

Like what?

---
Like to put them in their place, for one.
---

If I don't understand the insult, you haven't placed me anywhere.

---
Try to keep up, OK?

We're not talking about you and your disabilities, I was answering your
question about what insults can be used for.

Whether _you_ understand the insult is immaterial, since the fact
remains that an insult can be used to someone in their place.
---
[/quote:c8deb2b78f]
If they don't understand the insult, you haven't put them in their place. Imagine insulting someone in another language.

[quote:c8deb2b78f]If they don't understand the insult, you've achieved nothing.

---
Sure I have.

What I've achieved is discovering that your insight and intellectual
resources are insufficient to understand the insult and then to
retaliate.
---

What use is that?

---
It's a weapon I can use against you in the future.
---

Admittance of trolling noted.

---
I don't _admit_ to trolling, asshole, I REVEL in it.

Especially when I hook minnows, like you, pretending to be sharks.
---
[/quote:c8deb2b78f]
Trolls are the lowest form of life. Nobody looks up to you.

[quote:c8deb2b78f]You might aswell wait until someone is out of earshot then call him names.

---
You keep responding, so you're well within earshot, and you obviously
feel you have an emotional investment in the thread, otherwise you'd
just drop it.

So why do you keep responding?
---

To prevent you getting the last wod and gloating about it.

---
So it's OK for you to have the last word, but not for me?
---

Of course.

---
Well, that's a juicy little tidbit. Got any more?
---
[/quote:c8deb2b78f]
You sad git.


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If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.
 
John Fields...
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:05 pm
Guest
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:30:20 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com>
wrote:

[quote:2849a6e9a1]On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:07:48 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:37:20 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:09:29 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:59:36 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:20:21 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:09:59 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:49:26 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:19:03 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:



---
Nope.

When you've been insulted, you've been insulted whether you know it or
not.

Sometimes it's even sweeter if don't understand the insult because that
shows off your stupidity.

The point of insulting someone is to annoy them.

---
So say you, but there are many more reasons than that to insult someone.
---

Like what?

---
Like to put them in their place, for one.
---

If I don't understand the insult, you haven't placed me anywhere.

---
Try to keep up, OK?

We're not talking about you and your disabilities, I was answering your
question about what insults can be used for.

Whether _you_ understand the insult is immaterial, since the fact
remains that an insult can be used to someone in their place.
---

If they don't understand the insult, you haven't put them in their place. Imagine insulting someone in another language.
[/quote:2849a6e9a1]
---
Damn, but you're thick! You still don't get it...
---

[quote:2849a6e9a1]If they don't understand the insult, you've achieved nothing.

---
Sure I have.

What I've achieved is discovering that your insight and intellectual
resources are insufficient to understand the insult and then to
retaliate.
---

What use is that?

---
It's a weapon I can use against you in the future.
---

Admittance of trolling noted.

---
I don't _admit_ to trolling, asshole, I REVEL in it.

Especially when I hook minnows, like you, pretending to be sharks.
---

Trolls are the lowest form of life. Nobody looks up to you.
[/quote:2849a6e9a1]
---
Are you kidding?

Trolling is a high art when it's done properly and when the intended
prey is well-hooked.

Like you, my boy, out there playing your little line-wrap and last word
games.

Well, the hook is firmly set and I'll not cut you loose anytime soon.
---
[quote:2849a6e9a1]
You might aswell wait until someone is out of earshot then call him names.

---
You keep responding, so you're well within earshot, and you obviously
feel you have an emotional investment in the thread, otherwise you'd
just drop it.

So why do you keep responding?
---

To prevent you getting the last wod and gloating about it.

---
So it's OK for you to have the last word, but not for me?
---

Of course.

---
Well, that's a juicy little tidbit. Got any more?
---

You sad git.
[/quote:2849a6e9a1]
---
What's the matter, hook starting to bother you?

JF
 
Peter Hucker...
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:16 pm
Guest
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:05:32 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

[quote:8f75827303]On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:30:20 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:07:48 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:37:20 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:09:29 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:59:36 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:20:21 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:09:59 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:





---
So say you, but there are many more reasons than that to insult someone.
---

Like what?

---
Like to put them in their place, for one.
---

If I don't understand the insult, you haven't placed me anywhere.

---
Try to keep up, OK?

We're not talking about you and your disabilities, I was answering your
question about what insults can be used for.

Whether _you_ understand the insult is immaterial, since the fact
remains that an insult can be used to someone in their place.
---

If they don't understand the insult, you haven't put them in their place. Imagine insulting someone in another language.

---
Damn, but you're thick! You still don't get it...
---



---
Sure I have.

What I've achieved is discovering that your insight and intellectual
resources are insufficient to understand the insult and then to
retaliate.
---

What use is that?

---
It's a weapon I can use against you in the future.
---

Admittance of trolling noted.

---
I don't _admit_ to trolling, asshole, I REVEL in it.

Especially when I hook minnows, like you, pretending to be sharks.
---

Trolls are the lowest form of life. Nobody looks up to you.

---
Are you kidding?

Trolling is a high art when it's done properly and when the intended
prey is well-hooked.

Like you, my boy, out there playing your little line-wrap and last word
games.

Well, the hook is firmly set and I'll not cut you loose anytime soon.
---



---
You keep responding, so you're well within earshot, and you obviously
feel you have an emotional investment in the thread, otherwise you'd
just drop it.

So why do you keep responding?
---

To prevent you getting the last wod and gloating about it.

---
So it's OK for you to have the last word, but not for me?
---

Of course.

---
Well, that's a juicy little tidbit. Got any more?
---

You sad git.

---
What's the matter, hook starting to bother you?

JF
[/quote:8f75827303]
You're a silly little child. I prefer discussions with intelligent adults.


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Why doesn't DOS ever say "EXCELLENT command or filename"?
 
John Fields...
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:55 pm
Guest
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:16:45 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com>
wrote:

[quote:3a2fa2f83c]On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:05:32 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

What's the matter, hook starting to bother you?

JF

You're a silly little child. I prefer discussions with intelligent adults.
[/quote:3a2fa2f83c]
---
As do I.

Unfortunately, I now have to deal with you.

JF
 
Peter Hucker...
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:09 pm
Guest
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:55:02 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

[quote:0d8dcd5449]On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:16:45 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:05:32 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

What's the matter, hook starting to bother you?

JF

You're a silly little child. I prefer discussions with intelligent adults.

---
As do I.

Unfortunately, I now have to deal with you.

JF
[/quote:0d8dcd5449]
Trolls and intelligent adults are mutually exclusive.

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I used to not get along with my mother-in-law, but over the last few
months, I've developed quite an attachment for her. It goes over her
head, and a strap comes down under her chin to keep her mouth shut.
 
John Fields...
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:19 pm
Guest
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:09:08 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com>
wrote:

[quote:514d608181]On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:55:02 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:16:45 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:05:32 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

What's the matter, hook starting to bother you?

JF

You're a silly little child. I prefer discussions with intelligent adults.

---
As do I.

Unfortunately, I now have to deal with you.

JF

Trolls and intelligent adults are mutually exclusive.
[/quote:514d608181]
---
Then you're obviously not be an intelligent adult.

JF
 
Peter Hucker...
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:42 pm
Guest
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:19:08 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

[quote:aec780da5f]On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:09:08 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:55:02 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:16:45 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none at (no spam) spam.com
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:05:32 -0000, John Fields <jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:

What's the matter, hook starting to bother you?

JF

You're a silly little child. I prefer discussions with intelligent adults.

---
As do I.

Unfortunately, I now have to deal with you.

JF

Trolls and intelligent adults are mutually exclusive.

---
Then you're obviously not be an intelligent adult.

JF
[/quote:aec780da5f]
You have admitted you are a troll. You have also stated that I am no good at trolling. Therefore I am not one, and must be an intelligent adult.

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It turns out a Chinese food deliveryman who was thought to be missing, was actually stuck in a Manhattan apartment building elevator for 4 days.
The man is ok, but the building's owner is charging him $1,500 rent.
 
Bob Larter...
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:44 am
Guest
Peter Hucker wrote:
[quote:cb92fb9bba]We have a wireless network at work which appears to have gone downhill since the workmen installed PIRs for the burglar alarm. One of them in particular appears to cause dropped packets the closer a laptop is to it. Is this possible?? It's not a wireless PIR as far as I know, as I can see some leftover cable he was using which is a multicore (about 10 cores) type similar to phone systems, so I assume this is for the signal aswell as power. The person in that office swears blind that there were absolutely no problems until the PIR was installed above her desk, and now when I check, about 60% of the packets are being dropped. Moving her laptop to the opposite side of the room it drops only 5% of packets. PIRs used to just pick up infrared of your bodyheat, but I think now they are also motion sensors? Perhaps this means they are sending out a signal and bouncing it off you? Perhaps this could interfere with wireless networking?
[/quote:cb92fb9bba]
The IR sensor might be one of the dual sensor (expensive!) type that
also include a microwave T/R motion sensing circuit. That would be very
likely to interfere with wireless networking systems. The security
company should be able to tell you for sure.


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