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da...
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:54 am
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Hello, Anyone know if my Garmin Vista's (old one) RS232 if 0-5 Volt or
proper RS232 -12v +12v, why I need to know is can I connect it directly to
a micro controller (TTL 0-5 volt) or do I need a max232 chip to convert it.
Dan Anderson...
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:27 pm
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da wrote:
Quote:
Hello, Anyone know if my Garmin Vista's (old one) RS232 if 0-5 Volt or
proper RS232 -12v +12v, why I need to know is can I connect it directly to
a micro controller (TTL 0-5 volt) or do I need a max232 chip to convert it.

In general, Garmin receivers are not proper RS232. It's been
more than a few years since I looked at an eTrex Venture's
output, but I believe it was 0 to about 2V. The high was
a bit below battery voltage (I use NiMH).

--
Dan

Personal: www.gpsmap.net
Business:
Western Maps LLC
www.westernmaps.us
da...
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:14 pm
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"Dan Anderson" <noEMail at (no spam) noServer.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
da wrote:
Hello, Anyone know if my Garmin Vista's (old one) RS232 if 0-5 Volt or
proper RS232 -12v +12v, why I need to know is can I connect it directly
to a micro controller (TTL 0-5 volt) or do I need a max232 chip to
convert it.

In general, Garmin receivers are not proper RS232. It's been
more than a few years since I looked at an eTrex Venture's
output, but I believe it was 0 to about 2V. The high was
a bit below battery voltage (I use NiMH).

--
Dan

Personal: www.gpsmap.net
Business:
Western Maps LLC
www.westernmaps.us

Hi Dan, Thanks for that I guessed as much - I could have looked on my
oscilloscope but that is in a box, 'somewhere'.

Dave.
Peter Bennett...
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:21 pm
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:54:26 +0100, "da" < at (no spam) .com> wrote:

Quote:
Hello, Anyone know if my Garmin Vista's (old one) RS232 if 0-5 Volt or
proper RS232 -12v +12v, why I need to know is can I connect it directly to
a micro controller (TTL 0-5 volt) or do I need a max232 chip to convert it.


My Garmins all have been 0-5volt, but RS-232 "polarity" , so that they
will work with a normal PC serial port. You will need an inverter on
your microcontroller serial input to get the signal the"right way up"
for the microcontroller's serial input.



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca
da...
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:13 am
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"Peter Bennett" <peterbb at (no spam) somewhere.invalid> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:54:26 +0100, "da" < at (no spam) .com> wrote:

Hello, Anyone know if my Garmin Vista's (old one) RS232 if 0-5 Volt or
proper RS232 -12v +12v, why I need to know is can I connect it directly
to
a micro controller (TTL 0-5 volt) or do I need a max232 chip to convert
it.


My Garmins all have been 0-5volt, but RS-232 "polarity" , so that they
will work with a normal PC serial port. You will need an inverter on
your microcontroller serial input to get the signal the"right way up"
for the microcontroller's serial input.



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

Ah-ha, many thanks for that, so logic 1 would be '0 volt' and logic 0 5
volt. So on the 9pin DIN lead would be the same, or does the Garmin lead
change anything ?

Dave - G6ZKC
peter...
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:49 pm
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On Aug 15, 1:13 pm, Dan Anderson <noEM... at (no spam) noServer.net> wrote:
Quote:
Peter Bennett wrote:
My Garmins all have been 0-5volt, but RS-232 "polarity" , so that they
will work with a normal PC serial port. You will need an inverter on
your microcontroller serial input to get the signal the"right way up"
for the microcontroller's serial input.

I checked a GPS 76 and got -5 to 5V. On a GPSmap 76S, I got 0 - 5V
and on GPSmap 76C[S]x, I got about -6 to 6V. A 12XL was 0 - 5V.

The ~2V I mentioned in my other post was probably from a PDA when
I was trying to get it to work with the receivers.

The GPS 76 was a repair replacement and might have newer hardware
than the 76S.

Interesting that there's so much variation. My eMap puts out -6v/+6v
pulses. It came out before any of the 76 models but after the 12XL.
Dan Anderson...
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:13 pm
Guest
Peter Bennett wrote:
Quote:
My Garmins all have been 0-5volt, but RS-232 "polarity" , so that they
will work with a normal PC serial port. You will need an inverter on
your microcontroller serial input to get the signal the"right way up"
for the microcontroller's serial input.

I checked a GPS 76 and got -5 to 5V. On a GPSmap 76S, I got 0 - 5V
and on GPSmap 76C[S]x, I got about -6 to 6V. A 12XL was 0 - 5V.

The ~2V I mentioned in my other post was probably from a PDA when
I was trying to get it to work with the receivers.

The GPS 76 was a repair replacement and might have newer hardware
than the 76S.

--
Dan

Personal: www.gpsmap.net
Business:
Western Maps LLC
www.westernmaps.us
 
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