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ironjustice...
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:51 am
Guest
This is the human model of fibromyalgia.
They are attempting to find a way to prevent fibromyalgia from ..
happening.

How do they create arthralgia-myalgia syndrome.. ?

Inject iron into the human body.
-----------------
Value of methylprednisolone in prevention of the arthralgia-myalgia
syndrome associated with the total dose infusion of iron dextran : A
double blind randomized trial
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
AUERBACH M. ; CHAUDHRY M. ; GOLDMAN H. ; BALLARD H. ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
Franklin Square Hospital Center, Baltimore, ETATS-UNIS
Manhattan Veterans Administration Medical Center, New York, ETATS-UNIS

Résumé / Abstract
The safety and efficacy of total dose infusion (TDI) of iron dextran
has been well documented. In 40% of treated patients, an arthralgia-
myalgia syndrome develops. The purpose of this randomized, double-
blind, prospective study was to investigate whether intravenous (IV)
administration of methylprednisolone (MP) prevents this complication.
Sixty-five patients, 34 women and 31 men, ages 36 to 80 years,
received either normal saline before and after TDI (group 1), 125 mg
IV MP before and saline after TDI (group 2), or 125 mg IV MP before
and after TDI (group 3). Patients were observed for 72 hours and
reactions were recorded and graded according to severity. Fifty-eight
percent of group 1 patients, 33% of group 2, and 26% of group 3 had
reactions to TDI. The severity of reactions (minimal, mild, and
moderate, respectively) was as follows: group 1-6, 6, and 2; group
2-1, 5, and 0; group 3-5, 1, and 0. Data were analyzed by the two-
sided Fisher's exact test using 95% confidence intervals with the
approximation of Woolf. These data demonstrate that administration of
MP before and after TDI reduces the frequency and severity of the
arthralgia-myalgia syndrome. We conclude that 125 mg IV MP should be
given routinely before and after TDI of iron dextran.
Revue / Journal Title
The Journal of laboratory and clinical medicine ISSN 0022-2143
CODEN JLCMAK
Source / Source
1998, vol. 131, no3, pp. 257-260 (8 ref.)
Langue / Language
Anglais

Editeur / Publisher
Elsevier, Saint Louis, MO, ETATS-UNIS (1915-2006) (Revue)

Mots-clés anglais / English Keywords
Iron ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Intravenous administration ; Toxicity ;
Myalgia ; Arthralgia ; Methylprednisolone ; Corticosteroid ;
Controlled therapeutic trial ; Chemotherapy ; Treatment ; Prevention ;
Human ; Randomization ; Double blind study ; Pain ; Striated muscle
disease ; Joint ; Diseases of the osteoarticular system ;
Mots-clés français / French Keywords
Fer ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Voie intraveineuse ; Toxicité ; Myalgie ;
Arthralgie ; Méthylprednisolone ; Corticostéroïde ; Essai
thérapeutique contrôlé ; Chimiothérapie ; Traitement ; Prévention ;
Homme ; Randomisation ; Etude double insu ; Douleur ; Muscle strié
pathologie ; Articulation ; Système ostéoarticulaire pathologie ;
Mots-clés espagnols / Spanish Keywords
Hierro ; Dextran ; Perfusión ; Vía intravenosa ; Toxicidad ; Mialgia ;
Artralgia ; Metilprednisolona ; Corticoesteroide ; Ensayo terapéutico
controlado ; Quimioterapia ; Tratamiento ; Prevención ; Hombre ;
Aleatorización ; Estudio doble ciego ; Dolor ; Músculo estriado
patología ; Articulación ; Sistema osteoarticular patología ;
Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 2060, 35400007522346.0120


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Michael B...
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:11 pm
Guest
Hey, Tom. Just a suggestion, which I'm confident will be ignored.

In the course of your cutting/pasting, you might want to be on the
lookout for provisos such as "No part of these records may be
reproduced of distributed, in any form or by any means, without
the prior written permission of INIST-CNRS."

Now, I realize that with your obvious level of professionalism, you
are likely to have already gotten such written permission. Second
thing is that the same level of expectation can be put to being able
to look up and see pigs flying overhead.

On Jul 12, 8:51 am, ironjustice <teamtan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
This is the human model of fibromyalgia.
They are attempting to find a way to prevent fibromyalgia from ..
happening.

How do they create arthralgia-myalgia syndrome.. ?

Inject iron into the human body.
-----------------
Value of methylprednisolone in prevention of the arthralgia-myalgia
syndrome associated with the total dose infusion of iron dextran : A
double blind randomized trial
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
AUERBACH M. ; CHAUDHRY M. ; GOLDMAN H. ; BALLARD H. ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
Franklin Square Hospital Center, Baltimore, ETATS-UNIS
Manhattan Veterans Administration Medical Center, New York, ETATS-UNIS

Résumé / Abstract
The safety and efficacy of total dose infusion (TDI) of iron dextran
has been well documented. In 40% of treated patients, an arthralgia-
myalgia syndrome develops. The purpose of this randomized, double-
blind, prospective study was to investigate whether intravenous (IV)
administration of methylprednisolone (MP) prevents this complication.
Sixty-five patients, 34 women and 31 men, ages 36 to 80 years,
received either normal saline before and after TDI (group 1), 125 mg
IV MP before and saline after TDI (group 2), or 125 mg IV MP before
and after TDI (group 3). Patients were observed for 72 hours and
reactions were recorded and graded according to severity. Fifty-eight
percent of group 1 patients, 33% of group 2, and 26% of group 3 had
reactions to TDI. The severity of reactions (minimal, mild, and
moderate, respectively) was as follows: group 1-6, 6, and 2; group
2-1, 5, and 0; group 3-5, 1, and 0. Data were analyzed by the two-
sided Fisher's exact test using 95% confidence intervals with the
approximation of Woolf. These data demonstrate that administration of
MP before and after TDI reduces the frequency and severity of the
arthralgia-myalgia syndrome. We conclude that 125 mg IV MP should be
given routinely before and after TDI of iron dextran.
Revue / Journal Title
The Journal of laboratory and clinical medicine ISSN 0022-2143
CODEN JLCMAK
Source / Source
1998, vol. 131, no3, pp. 257-260 (8 ref.)
Langue / Language
Anglais

Editeur / Publisher
Elsevier, Saint Louis, MO, ETATS-UNIS (1915-2006) (Revue)

Mots-clés anglais / English Keywords
Iron ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Intravenous administration ; Toxicity ;
Myalgia ; Arthralgia ; Methylprednisolone ; Corticosteroid ;
Controlled therapeutic trial ; Chemotherapy ; Treatment ; Prevention ;
Human ; Randomization ; Double blind study ; Pain ; Striated muscle
disease ; Joint ; Diseases of the osteoarticular system ;
Mots-clés français / French Keywords
Fer ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Voie intraveineuse ; Toxicité ; Myalgie ;
Arthralgie ; Méthylprednisolone ; Corticostéroïde ; Essai
thérapeutique contrôlé ; Chimiothérapie ; Traitement ; Prévention ;
Homme ; Randomisation ; Etude double insu ; Douleur ; Muscle strié
pathologie ; Articulation ; Système ostéoarticulaire pathologie ;
Mots-clés espagnols / Spanish Keywords
Hierro ; Dextran ; Perfusión ; Vía intravenosa ; Toxicidad ; Mialgia ;
Artralgia ; Metilprednisolona ; Corticoesteroide ; Ensayo terapéutico
controlado ; Quimioterapia ; Tratamiento ; Prevención ; Hombre ;
Aleatorización ; Estudio doble ciego ; Dolor ; Músculo estriado
patología ; Articulación ; Sistema osteoarticular patología ;
Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 2060, 35400007522346.0120

Copyright 2007 INIST-CNRS. All rights reserved

Toute reproduction ou diffusion même partielle, par quelque procédé ou
sur tout support que ce soit, ne pourra être faite sans l'accord
préalable écrit de l'INIST-CNRS.
No part of these records may be reproduced of distributed, in any form
or by any means, without the prior written permission of INIST-CNRS.

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ironjustice...
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:56 pm
Guest
On Jul 12, 3:11 pm, Michael B <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote: snip <<

You've been told to stay off my threads ..
--------------------

This is the human model of fibromyalgia.
They are attempting to find a way to prevent fibromyalgia from ..
happening.

How do they create arthralgia-myalgia syndrome.. ?


Inject iron into the human body.
-----------------
Value of methylprednisolone in prevention of the arthralgia-myalgia
syndrome associated with the total dose infusion of iron dextran : A
double blind randomized trial
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
AUERBACH M. ; CHAUDHRY M. ; GOLDMAN H. ; BALLARD H. ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
Franklin Square Hospital Center, Baltimore, ETATS-UNIS
Manhattan Veterans Administration Medical Center, New York, ETATS-
UNIS


Résumé / Abstract
The safety and efficacy of total dose infusion (TDI) of iron dextran
has been well documented. In 40% of treated patients, an arthralgia-
myalgia syndrome develops. The purpose of this randomized, double-
blind, prospective study was to investigate whether intravenous (IV)
administration of methylprednisolone (MP) prevents this complication.
Sixty-five patients, 34 women and 31 men, ages 36 to 80 years,
received either normal saline before and after TDI (group 1), 125 mg
IV MP before and saline after TDI (group 2), or 125 mg IV MP before
and after TDI (group 3). Patients were observed for 72 hours and
reactions were recorded and graded according to severity. Fifty-eight
percent of group 1 patients, 33% of group 2, and 26% of group 3 had
reactions to TDI. The severity of reactions (minimal, mild, and
moderate, respectively) was as follows: group 1-6, 6, and 2; group
2-1, 5, and 0; group 3-5, 1, and 0. Data were analyzed by the two-
sided Fisher's exact test using 95% confidence intervals with the
approximation of Woolf. These data demonstrate that administration of
MP before and after TDI reduces the frequency and severity of the
arthralgia-myalgia syndrome. We conclude that 125 mg IV MP should be
given routinely before and after TDI of iron dextran.
Revue / Journal Title
The Journal of laboratory and clinical medicine ISSN 0022-2143
CODEN JLCMAK
Source / Source
1998, vol. 131, no3, pp. 257-260 (8 ref.)
Langue / Language
Anglais


Editeur / Publisher
Elsevier, Saint Louis, MO, ETATS-UNIS (1915-2006) (Revue)


Mots-clés anglais / English Keywords
Iron ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Intravenous administration ; Toxicity ;
Myalgia ; Arthralgia ; Methylprednisolone ; Corticosteroid ;
Controlled therapeutic trial ; Chemotherapy ; Treatment ;
Prevention ;
Human ; Randomization ; Double blind study ; Pain ; Striated muscle
disease ; Joint ; Diseases of the osteoarticular system ;
Mots-clés français / French Keywords
Fer ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Voie intraveineuse ; Toxicité ; Myalgie ;
Arthralgie ; Méthylprednisolone ; Corticostéroïde ; Essai
thérapeutique contrôlé ; Chimiothérapie ; Traitement ; Prévention ;
Homme ; Randomisation ; Etude double insu ; Douleur ; Muscle strié
pathologie ; Articulation ; Système ostéoarticulaire pathologie ;
Mots-clés espagnols / Spanish Keywords
Hierro ; Dextran ; Perfusión ; Vía intravenosa ; Toxicidad ;
Mialgia ;
Artralgia ; Metilprednisolona ; Corticoesteroide ; Ensayo terapéutico
controlado ; Quimioterapia ; Tratamiento ; Prevención ; Hombre ;
Aleatorización ; Estudio doble ciego ; Dolor ; Músculo estriado
patología ; Articulación ; Sistema osteoarticular patología ;
Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 2060, 35400007522346.0120


Copyright 2007 INIST-CNRS. All rights reserved


Toute reproduction ou diffusion même partielle, par quelque procédé
ou
sur tout support que ce soit, ne pourra être faite sans l'accord
préalable écrit de l'INIST-CNRS.
No part of these records may be reproduced of distributed, in any
form
or by any means, without the prior written permission of INIST-CNRS.


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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:12 pm
Guest
Only from one experience I had witnessed, This could be wrong or right, I
thought it may be an offshoot of crohns disease. Like many other acquired
diseases from the environment (not organic ones) this is a possibility, not
to be discounted entirely. The person with Fibro-myalgia thought it was
caused by her silver fillings, so she had all replaced, and her
fibro-myalgia was better. So whatever suits a person, who is to say? But
I am certain of my anti-depressant theory. (She was also friendly off and
on with a friend of both of us on anti-depressants. I backed off the
friendship, as I try to do, (not always successfully) if I know someone is
on a stimulant.
Gail Michael
ironjustice...
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:21 pm
Guest
On Jul 12, 4:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:How do
they create arthralgia-myalgia syndrome.. ? Inject iron into the human
body. <<

http://www.nature.com/ki/journal/v55/n69s/full/4490859a.html

"Deposition of iron in tissues related to myalgia"


Who loves ya.
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Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

Quote:
On Jul 12, 3:11 pm, Michael B <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote: snip

You've been told to stay off my threads ..
--------------------

This is the human model of fibromyalgia.
They are attempting to find a way to prevent fibromyalgia from ..
happening.

How do they create arthralgia-myalgia syndrome.. ?

Inject iron into the human body.
-----------------
Value of methylprednisolone in prevention of the arthralgia-myalgia
syndrome associated with the total dose infusion of iron dextran : A
double blind randomized trial
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
AUERBACH M. ; CHAUDHRY M. ; GOLDMAN H. ; BALLARD H. ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
Franklin Square Hospital Center, Baltimore, ETATS-UNIS
Manhattan Veterans Administration Medical Center, New York, ETATS-
UNIS

Résumé / Abstract
The safety and efficacy of total dose infusion (TDI) of iron dextran
has been well documented. In 40% of treated patients, an arthralgia-
myalgia syndrome develops. The purpose of this randomized, double-
blind, prospective study was to investigate whether intravenous (IV)
administration of methylprednisolone (MP) prevents this complication.
Sixty-five patients, 34 women and 31 men, ages 36 to 80 years,
received either normal saline before and after TDI (group 1), 125 mg
IV MP before and saline after TDI (group 2), or 125 mg IV MP before
and after TDI (group 3). Patients were observed for 72 hours and
reactions were recorded and graded according to severity. Fifty-eight
percent of group 1 patients, 33% of group 2, and 26% of group 3 had
reactions to TDI. The severity of reactions (minimal, mild, and
moderate, respectively) was as follows: group 1-6, 6, and 2; group
2-1, 5, and 0; group 3-5, 1, and 0. Data were analyzed by the two-
sided Fisher's exact test using 95% confidence intervals with the
approximation of Woolf. These data demonstrate that administration of
MP before and after TDI reduces the frequency and severity of the
arthralgia-myalgia syndrome. We conclude that 125 mg IV MP should be
given routinely before and after TDI of iron dextran.
Revue / Journal Title
The Journal of laboratory and clinical medicine   ISSN 0022-2143
CODEN JLCMAK
Source / Source
1998, vol. 131, no3, pp. 257-260 (8 ref.)
Langue / Language
Anglais

Editeur / Publisher
Elsevier, Saint Louis, MO, ETATS-UNIS (1915-2006) (Revue)

Mots-clés anglais / English Keywords
Iron ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Intravenous administration ; Toxicity ;
Myalgia ; Arthralgia ; Methylprednisolone ; Corticosteroid ;
Controlled therapeutic trial ; Chemotherapy ; Treatment ;
Prevention ;
Human ; Randomization ; Double blind study ; Pain ; Striated muscle
disease ; Joint ; Diseases of the osteoarticular system ;
Mots-clés français / French Keywords
Fer ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Voie intraveineuse ; Toxicité ; Myalgie ;
Arthralgie ; Méthylprednisolone ; Corticostéroïde ; Essai
thérapeutique contrôlé ; Chimiothérapie ; Traitement ; Prévention ;
Homme ; Randomisation ; Etude double insu ; Douleur ; Muscle strié
pathologie ; Articulation ; Système ostéoarticulaire pathologie ;
Mots-clés espagnols / Spanish Keywords
Hierro ; Dextran ; Perfusión ; Vía intravenosa ; Toxicidad ;
Mialgia ;
Artralgia ; Metilprednisolona ; Corticoesteroide ; Ensayo terapéutico
controlado ; Quimioterapia ; Tratamiento ; Prevención ; Hombre ;
Aleatorización ; Estudio doble ciego ; Dolor ; Músculo estriado
patología ; Articulación ; Sistema osteoarticular patología ;
Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 2060, 35400007522346.0120

Copyright 2007 INIST-CNRS. All rights reserved

Toute reproduction ou diffusion même partielle, par quelque procédé
ou
sur tout support que ce soit, ne pourra être faite sans l'accord
préalable écrit de l'INIST-CNRS.
No part of these records may be reproduced of distributed, in any
form
or by any means, without the prior written permission of INIST-CNRS.

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DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
ironjustice...
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:20 pm
Guest
On Jul 12, 8:55 pm, "Cheeky Bastard" <InvalidEm... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
snip <<

You got a reason to BE on this thread do ya .. ?

http://www.nature.com/ki/journal/v55/n69s/full/4490859a.html

"Deposition of iron in tissues related to myalgia"


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http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


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http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Cheeky Bastard...
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:53 pm
Guest
"news.chi.sbcglobal.net" <kureforcrohns at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Cf8ek.12226$cW3.8284 at (no spam) nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
Quote:
Only from one experience I had witnessed, This could be wrong or right, I
thought it may be an offshoot of crohns disease. Like many other
acquired diseases from the environment (not organic ones) this is a
possibility, not to be discounted entirely. The person with
Fibro-myalgia thought it was caused by her silver fillings, so she had all
replaced, and her fibro-myalgia was better. So whatever suits a person,
who is to say? But I am certain of my anti-depressant theory. (She was
also friendly off and on with a friend of both of us on anti-depressants.
I backed off the friendship, as I try to do, (not always successfully) if
I know someone is on a stimulant.
Gail Michael



I see I am not the only person who pulls away from people on
antidepressants. I'm sure there are people who will moan about this but they
do not see the rollercoaster of emotions they project on people around them.

CB
Cheeky Bastard...
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Guest
Sheesh good point Michael. That's one way to get him, just report him LOL

"Michael B" <baughfam at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:52426952-9283-4d7a-9b72-b1a11ba905c9 at (no spam) 59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

Hey, Tom. Just a suggestion, which I'm confident will be ignored.

In the course of your cutting/pasting, you might want to be on the
lookout for provisos such as "No part of these records may be
reproduced of distributed, in any form or by any means, without
the prior written permission of INIST-CNRS."

Now, I realize that with your obvious level of professionalism, you
are likely to have already gotten such written permission. Second
thing is that the same level of expectation can be put to being able
to look up and see pigs flying overhead.

On Jul 12, 8:51 am, ironjustice <teamtan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
This is the human model of fibromyalgia.
They are attempting to find a way to prevent fibromyalgia from ..
happening.

How do they create arthralgia-myalgia syndrome.. ?

Inject iron into the human body.
-----------------
Value of methylprednisolone in prevention of the arthralgia-myalgia
syndrome associated with the total dose infusion of iron dextran : A
double blind randomized trial
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
AUERBACH M. ; CHAUDHRY M. ; GOLDMAN H. ; BALLARD H. ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
Franklin Square Hospital Center, Baltimore, ETATS-UNIS
Manhattan Veterans Administration Medical Center, New York, ETATS-UNIS

Résumé / Abstract
The safety and efficacy of total dose infusion (TDI) of iron dextran
has been well documented. In 40% of treated patients, an arthralgia-
myalgia syndrome develops. The purpose of this randomized, double-
blind, prospective study was to investigate whether intravenous (IV)
administration of methylprednisolone (MP) prevents this complication.
Sixty-five patients, 34 women and 31 men, ages 36 to 80 years,
received either normal saline before and after TDI (group 1), 125 mg
IV MP before and saline after TDI (group 2), or 125 mg IV MP before
and after TDI (group 3). Patients were observed for 72 hours and
reactions were recorded and graded according to severity. Fifty-eight
percent of group 1 patients, 33% of group 2, and 26% of group 3 had
reactions to TDI. The severity of reactions (minimal, mild, and
moderate, respectively) was as follows: group 1-6, 6, and 2; group
2-1, 5, and 0; group 3-5, 1, and 0. Data were analyzed by the two-
sided Fisher's exact test using 95% confidence intervals with the
approximation of Woolf. These data demonstrate that administration of
MP before and after TDI reduces the frequency and severity of the
arthralgia-myalgia syndrome. We conclude that 125 mg IV MP should be
given routinely before and after TDI of iron dextran.
Revue / Journal Title
The Journal of laboratory and clinical medicine ISSN 0022-2143
CODEN JLCMAK
Source / Source
1998, vol. 131, no3, pp. 257-260 (8 ref.)
Langue / Language
Anglais

Editeur / Publisher
Elsevier, Saint Louis, MO, ETATS-UNIS (1915-2006) (Revue)

Mots-clés anglais / English Keywords
Iron ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Intravenous administration ; Toxicity ;
Myalgia ; Arthralgia ; Methylprednisolone ; Corticosteroid ;
Controlled therapeutic trial ; Chemotherapy ; Treatment ; Prevention ;
Human ; Randomization ; Double blind study ; Pain ; Striated muscle
disease ; Joint ; Diseases of the osteoarticular system ;
Mots-clés français / French Keywords
Fer ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Voie intraveineuse ; Toxicité ; Myalgie ;
Arthralgie ; Méthylprednisolone ; Corticostéroïde ; Essai
thérapeutique contrôlé ; Chimiothérapie ; Traitement ; Prévention ;
Homme ; Randomisation ; Etude double insu ; Douleur ; Muscle strié
pathologie ; Articulation ; Système ostéoarticulaire pathologie ;
Mots-clés espagnols / Spanish Keywords
Hierro ; Dextran ; Perfusión ; Vía intravenosa ; Toxicidad ; Mialgia ;
Artralgia ; Metilprednisolona ; Corticoesteroide ; Ensayo terapéutico
controlado ; Quimioterapia ; Tratamiento ; Prevención ; Hombre ;
Aleatorización ; Estudio doble ciego ; Dolor ; Músculo estriado
patología ; Articulación ; Sistema osteoarticular patología ;
Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 2060, 35400007522346.0120

Copyright 2007 INIST-CNRS. All rights reserved

Toute reproduction ou diffusion même partielle, par quelque procédé ou
sur tout support que ce soit, ne pourra être faite sans l'accord
préalable écrit de l'INIST-CNRS.
No part of these records may be reproduced of distributed, in any form
or by any means, without the prior written permission of INIST-CNRS.

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Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Michael B...
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:36 pm
Guest
And you've been told that you are a twit that is egregiously
committing
copyright infringement with every one of your reprints.

On Jul 12, 7:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jul 12, 3:11 pm, Michael B <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote: snip

You've been told to stay off my threads ..
ironjustice...
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:46 am
Guest
On Jul 13, 2:36 am, Michael B <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote: snip <<

You are kind of a .. twit .. aren't ya ..

What part of stay off **my** threads don't ya understand .. ?
-----------------------------------
http://www.nature.com/ki/journal/v55/n69s/full/4490859a.html

"Deposition of iron in tissues related to myalgia"

This is the human model of fibromyalgia.
They are attempting to find a way to prevent fibromyalgia from ..
happening.

How do they create arthralgia-myalgia syndrome.. ?


Inject iron into the human body.
-----------------
Value of methylprednisolone in prevention of the arthralgia-myalgia
syndrome associated with the total dose infusion of iron dextran : A
double blind randomized trial
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
AUERBACH M. ; CHAUDHRY M. ; GOLDMAN H. ; BALLARD H. ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
Franklin Square Hospital Center, Baltimore, ETATS-UNIS
Manhattan Veterans Administration Medical Center, New York, ETATS-
UNIS


Résumé / Abstract
The safety and efficacy of total dose infusion (TDI) of iron dextran
has been well documented. In 40% of treated patients, an arthralgia-
myalgia syndrome develops. The purpose of this randomized, double-
blind, prospective study was to investigate whether intravenous (IV)
administration of methylprednisolone (MP) prevents this complication.
Sixty-five patients, 34 women and 31 men, ages 36 to 80 years,
received either normal saline before and after TDI (group 1), 125 mg
IV MP before and saline after TDI (group 2), or 125 mg IV MP before
and after TDI (group 3). Patients were observed for 72 hours and
reactions were recorded and graded according to severity. Fifty-eight
percent of group 1 patients, 33% of group 2, and 26% of group 3 had
reactions to TDI. The severity of reactions (minimal, mild, and
moderate, respectively) was as follows: group 1-6, 6, and 2; group
2-1, 5, and 0; group 3-5, 1, and 0. Data were analyzed by the two-
sided Fisher's exact test using 95% confidence intervals with the
approximation of Woolf. These data demonstrate that administration of
MP before and after TDI reduces the frequency and severity of the
arthralgia-myalgia syndrome. We conclude that 125 mg IV MP should be
given routinely before and after TDI of iron dextran.
Revue / Journal Title
The Journal of laboratory and clinical medicine ISSN 0022-2143
CODEN JLCMAK
Source / Source
1998, vol. 131, no3, pp. 257-260 (8 ref.)
Langue / Language
Anglais


Editeur / Publisher
Elsevier, Saint Louis, MO, ETATS-UNIS (1915-2006) (Revue)


Mots-clés anglais / English Keywords
Iron ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Intravenous administration ; Toxicity ;
Myalgia ; Arthralgia ; Methylprednisolone ; Corticosteroid ;
Controlled therapeutic trial ; Chemotherapy ; Treatment ;
Prevention ;
Human ; Randomization ; Double blind study ; Pain ; Striated muscle
disease ; Joint ; Diseases of the osteoarticular system ;
Mots-clés français / French Keywords
Fer ; Dextran ; Perfusion ; Voie intraveineuse ; Toxicité ; Myalgie ;
Arthralgie ; Méthylprednisolone ; Corticostéroïde ; Essai
thérapeutique contrôlé ; Chimiothérapie ; Traitement ; Prévention ;
Homme ; Randomisation ; Etude double insu ; Douleur ; Muscle strié
pathologie ; Articulation ; Système ostéoarticulaire pathologie ;
Mots-clés espagnols / Spanish Keywords
Hierro ; Dextran ; Perfusión ; Vía intravenosa ; Toxicidad ;
Mialgia ;
Artralgia ; Metilprednisolona ; Corticoesteroide ; Ensayo terapéutico
controlado ; Quimioterapia ; Tratamiento ; Prevención ; Hombre ;
Aleatorización ; Estudio doble ciego ; Dolor ; Músculo estriado
patología ; Articulación ; Sistema osteoarticular patología ;
Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 2060, 35400007522346.0120
Copyright 2007 INIST-CNRS. All rights reserved
Toute reproduction ou diffusion même partielle, par quelque procédé
ou
sur tout support que ce soit, ne pourra être faite sans l'accord
préalable écrit de l'INIST-CNRS.
No part of these records may be reproduced of distributed, in any
form
or by any means, without the prior written permission of INIST-CNRS.


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Quote:
And you've been told that you are a twit that is egregiously
committing
copyright infringement with every one of your reprints.

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On Jul 12, 3:11 pm, Michael B <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote: snip

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ironjustice...
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:52 am
Guest
On Jul 13, 7:23 am, Bert Hyman <b... at (no spam) iphouse.com> wrote: If both of
you would stop using googlegroups, <<

"How do they create arthralgia-myalgia syndrome.. ?
Inject iron into the human body. "

I notice you didn't say a whole lot about .. myalgia ..

You DID make a .. comment .. though .. Hyman ..

Contributive comment .. ?

A contributive comment .. imho .. would have been to tell Michael ..
to .. follow netiquette and not post to a thread when the post is
not .. **contributive** / supportive.

I doubt your comments are INTENDED to BE contributive.

I think I will stay ..

Maybe you can convince .. those non-supportive people .. to leave .. ?

Maybe you should leave with .. him .. ?

Maybe start your own little group .. ?

Let me advise you to call it .. alt.handicapped.


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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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Michael can go .. his alt.group is about to go .. anyhow >
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Quote:

Michael B <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
And you've been told that you are a twit that is egregiously
committing copyright infringement with every one of your reprints.

If both of you would stop using googlegroups, subscribe to a real news
service and use a real newsreader with a decent filter, neither of you
need ever see a post from the other again.

You could probably also avoid screwing up your attributions.

On Jul 12, 7:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 3:11 pm, Michael B <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote: snip

You've been told to stay off my threads ..

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Bert Hyman...
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:23 am
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In
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Michael B <baughfam at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:

Quote:
And you've been told that you are a twit that is egregiously
committing copyright infringement with every one of your reprints.

If both of you would stop using googlegroups, subscribe to a real news
service and use a real newsreader with a decent filter, neither of you
need ever see a post from the other again.

You could probably also avoid screwing up your attributions.

Quote:
On Jul 12, 7:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 3:11 pm, Michael B <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote: snip

You've been told to stay off my threads ..

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert at (no spam) iphouse.com
Michael B...
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:47 pm
Guest
Quote:
What part of stay off **my** threads don't ya understand .. ?

Well frankly, Mister President, it's the **my** part.

By the way, last week I was chatting with a fibromyalgia patient about
her condition and her iron levels. Something she was well aware of
since
she had just been verified as being iron depleted, with negative
results
for hemosiderin in bone marrow fragments. The doctor was encouraging
her to consume more meat-based protein, because her non-heme iron
intake was only about half as bioavailable. We chatted about your
notion of high iron being the reason for her pains. She rolled her
eyes
and asked me to tell you that you are an idiot and don't know what
you
are talking about.

So, from Janice to Tom-"You are an idiot".
And from me to you- "You are a plagiarizing twit".

Think that just about covers it. Now, back to 'your' thread.


On Jul 13, 9:46 am, ironjustice <teamtan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jul 13, 2:36 am, Michael B <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote: snip

You are kind of a .. twit .. aren't ya ..

What part of stay off **my** threads don't ya understand .. ?
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:56 pm
Guest
Not only do they produce a roller coaster of emotions, they will produce a
roller coaster of damage to the health of the person they are mind connected
to in the form of Crohns Disease. Very difficult to detect at times, but
a particularly astute person will notice the connection. Best thing it
not to form any friendship with a person on a stimulant including Xanax.
Difficult in these times. Also we are not the sole person responsible for
the friendship. The person on the stimulant may have thoughts of the
person trying to disconnect ( I think it is not an intentional act) for
some time afterwards until the friendship becomes very empty by time and
circumstances. Very difficult in this time when so many are on
anti-depressants, it becomes a lonely life if there are not many other
friends not on anti-depressants. One must experience the misery of
crohns to understand it. It is a problem that will engulf more and more
persons as the problem multiplies until needless illnesses and emotions
engul the innocent. And to make it worse yet, distance makes no
difference. The thoughts and harm continues no matter where one goes,
adding to the problems of disconnecting.
Gail Michael


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Only from one experience I had witnessed, This could be wrong or right, I
thought it may be an offshoot of crohns disease. Like many other
acquired diseases from the environment (not organic ones) this is a
possibility, not to be discounted entirely. The person with
Fibro-myalgia thought it was caused by her silver fillings, so she had
all replaced, and her fibro-myalgia was better. So whatever suits a
person, who is to say? But I am certain of my anti-depressant theory.
(She was also friendly off and on with a friend of both of us on
anti-depressants. I backed off the friendship, as I try to do, (not
always successfully) if I know someone is on a stimulant.
Gail Michael



I see I am not the only person who pulls away from people on
antidepressants. I'm sure there are people who will moan about this but
they do not see the rollercoaster of emotions they project on people
around them.

CB
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:56 pm
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It isnot only a roller coaster of emotions, but a roller coaster of harm to
the body. That is what causes Crohns Disease. Unrecognized until the
damage is intense. You are smart to recognize this. <My advice is to stay
away from all persons on anti-depressants or any stimulant unless it is a
very casual relationship, and even then I back away and try not to form a
mind connection. That of course, depends on two people (sometimes more) and
so while we may back off, the other person maintains mind thoughts of us
over which we have no control, except to wait until the empty friendship
wears off.
Difficult to understand but that is the crux of the problem of all
anti-depressants and stimulants and that includes Xanax. Only
tranquillizers are safe.
Gail Michael

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"news.chi.sbcglobal.net" <kureforcrohns at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Only from one experience I had witnessed, This could be wrong or right, I
thought it may be an offshoot of crohns disease. Like many other
acquired diseases from the environment (not organic ones) this is a
possibility, not to be discounted entirely. The person with
Fibro-myalgia thought it was caused by her silver fillings, so she had
all replaced, and her fibro-myalgia was better. So whatever suits a
person, who is to say? But I am certain of my anti-depressant theory.
(She was also friendly off and on with a friend of both of us on
anti-depressants. I backed off the friendship, as I try to do, (not
always successfully) if I know someone is on a stimulant.
Gail Michael



I see I am not the only person who pulls away from people on
antidepressants. I'm sure there are people who will moan about this but
they do not see the rollercoaster of emotions they project on people
around them.

CB
 
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