On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:02:02 -0400, "Spaceman"

No, it is an energy drain. the energy is not being used
for what it is supposed to be used for.
It is instead being used to heat the resistance spot.
That is a drain of the energy.

It is an undesired product. It is a waste. It is not a drain.

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye at (no spam) finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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Is there an electrical outlet anywhere near the car?




I know, I had thought about gettiing one of those rechargers. My car is
parked (assigned space) betweeen a post and the stairwell. I didn't see
anything close by but I am going to scope the walls near the elevator
maybe with an extenson cord? I'm skeptical though

mk5000

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It can when the power is trying to be used by something as simple
as the clock that is "always" on in pretty much every car made since
clocks were placed in cars..
I really think you should check such out.
The battery will drain faster when the circuit is not complete.
and it is a faster "drain".

The clock is a good theory for a drain. But what about the radio. I

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:04 -0400, marika <marika5000 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

"Spaceman" <spaceman at (no spam) yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote in message
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It can when the power is trying to be used by something as simple
as the clock that is "always" on in pretty much every car made since
clocks were placed in cars..
I really think you should check such out.
The battery will drain faster when the circuit is not complete.
and it is a faster "drain".

The clock is a good theory for a drain. But what about the radio. I

The clock is *terrible* theory for a drain. If it is drawing enough power
to discharge your battery in a few days, the clock will go up in a puff
of smoke.

They typical draw on the order of microamps. If it somehow was able to
draw even a half amp, there'd be seventy watts of power going through it's
pea sized chip. (W=E^2/R)

A small charger would be a temporary remedy, save the cost of a road call,
and provide back-up in the future.

Just a thought.

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:04 -0400, marika <marika5000 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

"Spaceman" <spaceman at (no spam) yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote in message
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It can when the power is trying to be used by something as simple
as the clock that is "always" on in pretty much every car made since
clocks were placed in cars..
I really think you should check such out.
The battery will drain faster when the circuit is not complete.
and it is a faster "drain".



The clock is a good theory for a drain. But what about the radio. I

The clock is *terrible* theory for a drain. If it is drawing enough power
to discharge your battery in a few days, the clock will go up in a puff
of smoke.

They typical draw on the order of microamps. If it somehow was able to
draw even a half amp, there'd be seventy watts of power going through it's
pea sized chip. (W=E^2/R)

huh?

AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:04 -0400, marika <marika5000 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

"Spaceman" <spaceman at (no spam) yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote in message
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It can when the power is trying to be used by something as simple
as the clock that is "always" on in pretty much every car made since
clocks were placed in cars..
I really think you should check such out.
The battery will drain faster when the circuit is not complete.
and it is a faster "drain".



The clock is a good theory for a drain. But what about the radio. I

The clock is *terrible* theory for a drain. If it is drawing enough power
to discharge your battery in a few days, the clock will go up in a puff
of smoke.

They typical draw on the order of microamps. If it somehow was able to
draw even a half amp, there'd be seventy watts of power going through it's
pea sized chip. (W=E^2/R)

huh?

12 volts and half an amp is six watts.

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye at (no spam) finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
message news:6JidnU-
A small charger would be a temporary remedy, save the cost of a road
call,
and provide back-up in the future.

You might want to provide a link to what you are talking about or use this
link:
http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-PS-400-3A-Instant-Power-Starter/dp/B00078NJYE


Just a thought.

How can that be? You would have to rent a brain.

Rocky - Doug's theme song is "If I only had a brain."

More like 50 HP out for 4 minutes before amortization.
Or minus three hours after.

You don't think paying $50,000 for a car that can only go a mile every
week is a good deal?

AZ Nomad wrote:

More like 50 HP out for 4 minutes before amortization.
Or minus three hours after.

You don't think paying $50,000 for a car that can only go a mile every
week is a good deal?

Easy fix. We make the week shorter. You can see the intended effect on
the length of days. In the Winter, the cold makes the days contract,
Summer heat makes the days expand, therefore longer.

So, I ask you, what is a week but a number of days strung together?
Shorter week, greater efficiency...and that's with NO Aggrandization!

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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye at (no spam) finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
message news:6JidnU-
A small charger would be a temporary remedy, save the cost of a road
call,
and provide back-up in the future.

You might want to provide a link to what you are talking about or use
this
link:
http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-PS-400-3A-Instant-Power-Starter/dp/B00078NJYE


Just a thought.

How can that be? You would have to rent a brain.

Rocky - Doug's theme song is "If I only had a brain."



Thanks! Hey I've seen those things in all kinds of places but I can't
remember where? Maybe my dad has one. I always thought it was some
weird tool for carpentry or whatever.

I walked around the entirety of the garage and the closest outlet was
about 60 feet away. That'd be a really long extension cord.

It's a double outlet. The top one is already in use -- the the huge
industrial fan keeping the garage from being a death trap of fumes, I
guess.

Irony: Next to the stairwell next to my car is an electrical closet that
I have no access to.

Did I read the product description correctly - you don't need to have an
outlet, it's got it's own battery that I could probably recharge in my own
apartment and bring it down for when I need to?

Please tell me assure me this is right and not wishful thinking?

It seems like the perfect engagement gift for a guy. And I imagine the
best part is, he can still put it to very good use, even
if he breaks off the engagement.

mk5000

" I guess I'm safe from that last one. I'm in solitary."-- Lady: "house of
d"

Well, I'm not sure if you're talking to me or the psychopath, but,

A charger will plug into the wall and hook onto the battery.

A jump box is like a small breifcase that you charge up elsewhere, and
then carry to, and hook up to, your battery for a boost.

Both have benefits.

I walked around the entirety of the garage and the closest outlet was
about 60 feet away. That'd be a really long extension cord.

Not for a small charger.

Of course, I'm a homeowner, and can think of a dozen other uses for a 60
ft cord where you may not.

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Well, I'm not sure if you're talking to me or the psychopath, but,

I guess both but I don't know who the psychopath is anyway

A charger will plug into the wall and hook onto the battery.

A jump box is like a small breifcase that you charge up elsewhere, and
then carry to, and hook up to, your battery for a boost.

Both have benefits.

I walked around the entirety of the garage and the closest outlet was
about 60 feet away. That'd be a really long extension cord.

Not for a small charger.

Of course, I'm a homeowner, and can think of a dozen other uses for a 60
ft cord where you may not.

I used to be a homeowner, had a house in Roanoke but sold it, and now have
a
tiny condo

Extension cords are probably useful in condos too. small or not. I just
don't want a lifestyle that requires extension cords because I trip over
them and break my nose or something

mk5000

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Lt. James Gordon: Nothing. No DNA, no fingerprints. Clothing is custom, no
tags or brand labels. No name, no other alias. Nothing in his pockets but
knives and lint. --Dark Knight

do I need anything other than a simple wrench

I threw my tools away when I moved to the condo, although my dad gave me
a small wrench so I could assemble some kitchen stools he bought for me

Honestly, you might wanna pas on that idea.

It's one of those things that's simple if you know how to do it, but not
if you don't.

Just about any battery has two clamps, and a hold down bracket.

But if it isn't simple and obvious to you, I'd pass on it.

You -could- carry the battery to an Advance or Autozone autoparts
store- they'll charge and check it for free.


Keep in mind that they'll be pre-disposed to try and sell you a new
battery.

You said this one was about a year old- where did you purchase it?


This is so weird. The car is a 95 or 96 I forget which. I had the
original battery til about 05 when AAA replaced it.
They sent one of those cute little battery vans

Then, I had it for about 2 years, just exactly the life of the warranty
and needed a new one.

AAA showed up again with one of those cute little battery replacement
trucks but the dude didn't have an extra battery (said he's sold his last
one) so he towed me to one of those Mr Goodyear type places (about
October 07) and they put in the new battery

What's the name on it?

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do I need anything other than a simple wrench

I threw my tools away when I moved to the condo, although my dad gave me
a small wrench so I could assemble some kitchen stools he bought for me

Honestly, you might wanna pas on that idea.


Probably but I am proud of myself because I figured out how to get the
bathtub drain unclogged yesterday

that was a pretty proud moment for me

It's one of those things that's simple if you know how to do it, but not
if you don't.

Just about any battery has two clamps, and a hold down bracket.

But if it isn't simple and obvious to you, I'd pass on it.

You -could- carry the battery to an Advance or Autozone autoparts
store- they'll charge and check it for free.


Keep in mind that they'll be pre-disposed to try and sell you a new
battery.

You said this one was about a year old- where did you purchase it?


This is so weird. The car is a 95 or 96 I forget which. I had the
original battery til about 05 when AAA replaced it.
They sent one of those cute little battery vans

Then, I had it for about 2 years, just exactly the life of the warranty
and needed a new one.

AAA showed up again with one of those cute little battery replacement
trucks but the dude didn't have an extra battery (said he's sold his
last one) so he towed me to one of those Mr Goodyear type places (about
October 07) and they put in the new battery

What's the name on it?


I'll have to go down and look and report on it later


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