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| The Webby... |
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:27 am |
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In the thread, "NTI continued", the discussion has taken its most recent
turn into the realm of dietary difficulties.
I'm going to be away from my "desk" for a week or so beginning tomorrow.
It is my suggestion that you all consider the value of a good, long
discussion about diet and the "TMD" patient. When I return, I'll be
more than happy to participate in this thread; I have decades of
experiences that might be useful to others.
Catch you all soon.
Webby |
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| The Webby... |
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:32 am |
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In article
<tmjiatroepidemic-9BA1D8.23272907072008 at (no spam) news.lga.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepidemic at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In the thread, "NTI continued", the discussion has taken its most recent
turn into the realm of dietary difficulties.
I'm going to be away from my "desk" for a week or so beginning tomorrow.
It is my suggestion that you all consider the value of a good, long
discussion about diet and the "TMD" patient. When I return, I'll be
more than happy to participate in this thread; I have decades of
experiences that might be useful to others.
Catch you all soon.
Webby
P.S. ... It doesn't matter what your "diagnosis" is if what you have is
a *problem* eating because your jaw just doesn't seem to "work" normally.
Webby |
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| jerm... |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:25 pm |
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On Jul 24, 1:27 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article
4d072799-8974-4e61-810c-4d5649381... at (no spam) z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 7, 11:32 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
tmjiatroepidemic-9BA1D8.23272907072... at (no spam) news.lga.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In the thread, "NTI continued", the discussion has taken its most recent
turn into the realm of dietary difficulties.
I'm going to be away from my "desk" for a week or so beginning tomorrow.
It is my suggestion that you all consider the value of a good, long
discussion about diet and the "TMD" patient. When I return, I'll be
more than happy to participate in this thread; I have decades of
experiences that might be useful to others.
Catch you all soon.
Webby
P.S. ... It doesn't matter what your "diagnosis" is if what you have is
a *problem* eating because your jaw just doesn't seem to "work" normally.
Webby
Hey Webby, could use some of your cuisine planning skills, if you have
the time.
Jeremy
Sure! I will make time. How can I be of help?
Webby
I guess, maybe just some ideas....seems like i can only think of a few
things I can eat...eggs.fish,oatmeal.....lots of ice cream........ |
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:27 pm |
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On Jul 24, 4:53 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article
10a59eea-c67b-48dd-8978-8f3b4aca3... at (no spam) u36g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 24, 1:27 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
4d072799-8974-4e61-810c-4d5649381... at (no spam) z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 7, 11:32 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
tmjiatroepidemic-9BA1D8.23272907072... at (no spam) news.lga.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In the thread, "NTI continued", the discussion has taken its most
recent
turn into the realm of dietary difficulties.
I'm going to be away from my "desk" for a week or so beginning
tomorrow.
It is my suggestion that you all consider the value of a good, long
discussion about diet and the "TMD" patient. When I return, I'll be
more than happy to participate in this thread; I have decades of
experiences that might be useful to others.
Catch you all soon.
Webby
P.S. ... It doesn't matter what your "diagnosis" is if what you have is
a *problem* eating because your jaw just doesn't seem to "work"
normally.
Webby
Hey Webby, could use some of your cuisine planning skills, if you have
the time.
Jeremy
Sure! I will make time. How can I be of help?
Webby
I guess, maybe just some ideas....seems like i can only think of a few
things I can eat...eggs.fish,oatmeal.....lots of ice cream........
I'll work on this asap; have some plans for a few hours now. Please let
me/us know if there are any foods in particular that you really
*dislike* so we can eliminate those right up front. Ok?
Webby
No hurry, whenever you get a chance............I like it all really,
with maybe the exception of eggplant....... ........thanks Webby! |
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| The Webby... |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:27 pm |
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In article
<4d072799-8974-4e61-810c-4d56493813ae at (no spam) z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jul 7, 11:32 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
tmjiatroepidemic-9BA1D8.23272907072... at (no spam) news.lga.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In the thread, "NTI continued", the discussion has taken its most recent
turn into the realm of dietary difficulties.
I'm going to be away from my "desk" for a week or so beginning tomorrow.
It is my suggestion that you all consider the value of a good, long
discussion about diet and the "TMD" patient. When I return, I'll be
more than happy to participate in this thread; I have decades of
experiences that might be useful to others.
Catch you all soon.
Webby
P.S. ... It doesn't matter what your "diagnosis" is if what you have is
a *problem* eating because your jaw just doesn't seem to "work" normally.
Webby
Hey Webby, could use some of your cuisine planning skills, if you have
the time.
Jeremy
Sure! I will make time. How can I be of help?
Webby |
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| The Webby... |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:53 pm |
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In article
<10a59eea-c67b-48dd-8978-8f3b4aca3106 at (no spam) u36g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jul 24, 1:27 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
4d072799-8974-4e61-810c-4d5649381... at (no spam) z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 7, 11:32 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
tmjiatroepidemic-9BA1D8.23272907072... at (no spam) news.lga.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In the thread, "NTI continued", the discussion has taken its most
recent
turn into the realm of dietary difficulties.
I'm going to be away from my "desk" for a week or so beginning
tomorrow.
It is my suggestion that you all consider the value of a good, long
discussion about diet and the "TMD" patient. When I return, I'll be
more than happy to participate in this thread; I have decades of
experiences that might be useful to others.
Catch you all soon.
Webby
P.S. ... It doesn't matter what your "diagnosis" is if what you have is
a *problem* eating because your jaw just doesn't seem to "work"
normally.
Webby
Hey Webby, could use some of your cuisine planning skills, if you have
the time.
Jeremy
Sure! I will make time. How can I be of help?
Webby
I guess, maybe just some ideas....seems like i can only think of a few
things I can eat...eggs.fish,oatmeal.....lots of ice cream........
I'll work on this asap; have some plans for a few hours now. Please let
me/us know if there are any foods in particular that you really
*dislike* so we can eliminate those right up front. Ok?
Webby |
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| jerm... |
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:00 am |
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On Jul 26, 11:05 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article <tmjiatroepidemic-DA3F7A.11000526072... at (no spam) news.west.cox.net>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
For today, would you mind sharing with us what you ate all day
yesterday. It doesn't matter whether it was a "normal food day". Let's
just begin with that. If you can [sic] remember what you did yesterday, we
can let it begin with today's meals.
If you *can't* remember ...
Sorry. ~~Webby
not finicky, actually am 6'3 220 and eat everything, no restrictions,
yesterday had oatmeal for breakfast, than a smoothie later, then had
some seared salmon for dinnner. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:00 pm |
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In article
<ade8b5fc-86d4-4c8d-89c3-3af23723a5f7 at (no spam) p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[cut a bunch]
Quote:
I guess, maybe just some ideas....seems like i can only think of a few
things I can eat...eggs.fish,oatmeal.....lots of ice cream........
Let's get this topic explored with the help of our many smd-chefs! I
know they're out there ... ;-)
First of all, jerm, it's important to understand your personal
challenges or obstacles. We assume a few things in the beginning:
1. No dietary restrictions associated with religion, personal
philosophies, or allergies.
2. You are not a finicky eater.
3. You are bored with your present routine and would appreciate some
ideas.
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For today, would you mind sharing with us what you ate all day
yesterday. It doesn't matter whether it was a "normal food day". Let's
just begin with that. If you can remember what you did yesterday, we
can let it begin with today's meals.
Breakfast-
Snacks-
Lunch-
Snacks-
Dinner-
Snacks-
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Try to comment about whether you ate. (Alone at home, with friends in a
home, restaurant, or wherever...)
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:05 pm |
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In article <tmjiatroepidemic-DA3F7A.11000526072008 at (no spam) news.west.cox.net>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepidemic at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote:
For today, would you mind sharing with us what you ate all day
yesterday. It doesn't matter whether it was a "normal food day". Let's
just begin with that. If you can [sic] remember what you did yesterday, we
can let it begin with today's meals.
If you *can't* remember ...
Sorry. ~~Webby |
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:13 pm |
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On Jul 26, 3:06 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article
80af9145-52cd-454a-9847-2b61e0993... at (no spam) p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 26, 11:05 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article <tmjiatroepidemic-DA3F7A.11000526072... at (no spam) news.west.cox.net>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
For today, would you mind sharing with us what you ate all day
yesterday. It doesn't matter whether it was a "normal food day". Let's
just begin with that. If you can [sic] remember what you did yesterday,
we
can let it begin with today's meals.
If you *can't* remember ...
Sorry. ~~Webby
not finicky, actually am 6'3 220 and eat everything, no restrictions,
yesterday had oatmeal for breakfast, than a smoothie later, then had
some seared salmon for dinnner.
That isn't enough food to keep you weighing in at 220. Nothing in
between meals?
You need to be a little more specific, jerm. Use the bullet list below
and fill in the blanks, so to speak, please.
Breakfast:
Oatmeal quantity? large bowl, probably 3 servings.
Milk? yes, with milk and a glass.
Sugar? and a pile of brown sugar.....with butter!
Fruit juice? (orange or other?)
Morning snack:
Nothing???
Why not smoothie?
Why not something of a nutritional drink (weight gain type)?
Lunch:
Was the smoothie your lunch? yes the smoothie was the lunch and it had peanut butter and dates, ice cream, juice.
What was in the smoothie?
Afternoon snack:
Nothing???
Dinner:
Seared salmon (that's a good choice!).
Do you know how many ounces of salmon? probably at least 8.
Nothing else with the salmon? just the salmon.
Maybe some mashed potatoes, soup,
Evening snack:
Ice cream? yes, a big bowl after dinner, so i guess im suplementing with ice cream.
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First, my point is that you need to eat *something* often throughout the
day. If you don't feel hungry, that's not a reason to miss your "meal
times". Oh, and I realize that yesterday was just one day; it might not
have been the day that best represented how much you normally eat but it
was a day... and we need to make all the days count for what they are
worth.
Also, have you lost or gained weight in the past months with all this
going on?
Can you please respond to the above points for me in your next post?
Thanks,
Webby
i havent been eating very well to be honest, and i have lost weight,
especially in my face, so im probably not at my normal weight. Eating
just seems dangerous lately, but actually i had a couple yogurts and
ive been eating tons of ice cream!......
and i ate the salmon alone, a pretty big piece though. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:06 pm |
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In article
<80af9145-52cd-454a-9847-2b61e0993bca at (no spam) p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jul 26, 11:05 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article <tmjiatroepidemic-DA3F7A.11000526072... at (no spam) news.west.cox.net>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
For today, would you mind sharing with us what you ate all day
yesterday. It doesn't matter whether it was a "normal food day". Let's
just begin with that. If you can [sic] remember what you did yesterday,
we
can let it begin with today's meals.
If you *can't* remember ...
Sorry. ~~Webby
not finicky, actually am 6'3 220 and eat everything, no restrictions,
yesterday had oatmeal for breakfast, than a smoothie later, then had
some seared salmon for dinnner.
That isn't enough food to keep you weighing in at 220. Nothing in
between meals?
You need to be a little more specific, jerm. Use the bullet list below
and fill in the blanks, so to speak, please.
Breakfast:
Oatmeal quantity?
Milk?
Sugar?
Fruit juice? (orange or other?)
Morning snack:
Nothing???
Why not smoothie?
Why not something of a nutritional drink (weight gain type)?
Lunch:
Was the smoothie your lunch?
What was in the smoothie?
Afternoon snack:
Nothing???
Dinner:
Seared salmon (that's a good choice!).
Do you know how many ounces of salmon?
Nothing else with the salmon?
Maybe some mashed potatoes, soup,
Evening snack:
Ice cream?
~~~~~~
First, my point is that you need to eat *something* often throughout the
day. If you don't feel hungry, that's not a reason to miss your "meal
times". Oh, and I realize that yesterday was just one day; it might not
have been the day that best represented how much you normally eat but it
was a day... and we need to make all the days count for what they are
worth.
Also, have you lost or gained weight in the past months with all this
going on?
Can you please respond to the above points for me in your next post?
Thanks,
Webby |
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:59 pm |
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On Jul 26, 3:06 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article
80af9145-52cd-454a-9847-2b61e0993... at (no spam) p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 26, 11:05 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article <tmjiatroepidemic-DA3F7A.11000526072... at (no spam) news.west.cox.net>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
For today, would you mind sharing with us what you ate all day
yesterday. It doesn't matter whether it was a "normal food day". Let's
just begin with that. If you can [sic] remember what you did yesterday,
we
can let it begin with today's meals.
If you *can't* remember ...
Sorry. ~~Webby
not finicky, actually am 6'3 220 and eat everything, no restrictions,
yesterday had oatmeal for breakfast, than a smoothie later, then had
some seared salmon for dinnner.
That isn't enough food to keep you weighing in at 220. Nothing in
between meals?
You need to be a little more specific, jerm. Use the bullet list below
and fill in the blanks, so to speak, please.
Breakfast:
Oatmeal quantity?
Milk?
Sugar?
Fruit juice? (orange or other?)
Morning snack:
Nothing???
Why not smoothie?
Why not something of a nutritional drink (weight gain type)?
Lunch:
Was the smoothie your lunch?
What was in the smoothie?
Afternoon snack:
Nothing???
Dinner:
Seared salmon (that's a good choice!).
Do you know how many ounces of salmon?
Nothing else with the salmon?
Maybe some mashed potatoes, soup,
Evening snack:
Ice cream?
~~~~~~
First, my point is that you need to eat *something* often throughout the
day. If you don't feel hungry, that's not a reason to miss your "meal
times". Oh, and I realize that yesterday was just one day; it might not
have been the day that best represented how much you normally eat but it
was a day... and we need to make all the days count for what they are
worth.
Also, have you lost or gained weight in the past months with all this
going on? wow, i have lost alot of weight, just weighed in at 208.
Can you please respond to the above points for me in your next post?
Thanks,
Webby |
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:22 pm |
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On Jul 26, 8:59 pm, jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jul 26, 3:06 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
80af9145-52cd-454a-9847-2b61e0993... at (no spam) p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 26, 11:05 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article <tmjiatroepidemic-DA3F7A.11000526072... at (no spam) news.west.cox.net>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
For today, would you mind sharing with us what you ate all day
yesterday. It doesn't matter whether it was a "normal food day". Let's
just begin with that. If you can [sic] remember what you did yesterday,
we
can let it begin with today's meals.
If you *can't* remember ...
Sorry. ~~Webby
not finicky, actually am 6'3 220 and eat everything, no restrictions,
yesterday had oatmeal for breakfast, than a smoothie later, then had
some seared salmon for dinnner.
That isn't enough food to keep you weighing in at 220. Nothing in
between meals?
You need to be a little more specific, jerm. Use the bullet list below
and fill in the blanks, so to speak, please.
Breakfast:
Oatmeal quantity?
Milk?
Sugar?
Fruit juice? (orange or other?)
Morning snack:
Nothing???
Why not smoothie?
Why not something of a nutritional drink (weight gain type)?
Lunch:
Was the smoothie your lunch?
What was in the smoothie?
Afternoon snack:
Nothing???
Dinner:
Seared salmon (that's a good choice!).
Do you know how many ounces of salmon?
Nothing else with the salmon?
Maybe some mashed potatoes, soup,
Evening snack:
Ice cream?
~~~~~~
First, my point is that you need to eat *something* often throughout the
day. If you don't feel hungry, that's not a reason to miss your "meal
times". Oh, and I realize that yesterday was just one day; it might not
have been the day that best represented how much you normally eat but it
was a day... and we need to make all the days count for what they are
worth.
Also, have you lost or gained weight in the past months with all this
going on? wow, i have lost alot of weight, just weighed in at 208.
Can you please respond to the above points for me in your next post?
Thanks,
Webby
sorry, i answered the questions out of order. I probably shouldve read
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:54 pm |
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On Jul 26, 9:42 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article
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jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
sorry, i answered the questions out of order. I probably shouldve read
your entire message first.
So...
What is your *single most significant difficulty* with eating?
(Don't tell me two things.)
Webby
ahh...thats hard to encapsulate into one...........fear of pain? |
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:42 pm |
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In article
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jerm <blownout at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: sorry, i answered the questions out of order. I probably shouldve read
your entire message first.
So...
What is your *single most significant difficulty* with eating?
(Don't tell me two things.)
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