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| Twittering One... |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:44 am |
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"The New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation, which runs the
hospital, said six people have been fired as a result, including
security personnel and members of the medical staff.
The psychiatric unit at Kings County Hospital in Brooklyn had already
been a subject of complaints by advocates for the mentally ill.
A state agency, the New York State Mental Hygiene Legal Service, and
the New York Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit a year ago, calling
the psychiatric center "a chamber of filth, decay, indifference and
danger.""
~ San Francisco Chronicle |
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| johns... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:30 am |
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One picture says it all.
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| rpautrey2... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:01 am |
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Did you watch the video? "A culture of abuse"! Paul
On Jul 2, 11:30 am, johns <johns... at (no spam) moscow.com> wrote:
Quote: One picture says it all.
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| yD... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:36 am |
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On Jul 2, 10:44 am, Twittering One <mournenwo... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote: "The New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation, which runs the
hospital, said six people have been fired as a result, including
security personnel and members of the medical staff.
The psychiatric unit at Kings County Hospital in Brooklyn had already
been a subject of complaints by advocates for the mentally ill.
A state agency, the New York State Mental Hygiene Legal Service, and
the New York Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit a year ago, calling
the psychiatric center "a chamber of filth, decay, indifference and
danger.""
~ San Francisco Chronicle
Kings County has had a bad reputation for decades!
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| Twittering One... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:26 am |
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"Health and Hospitals Corp. officials suspended and fired hospital
staffers involved.
Robert Nardoza, a spokesman for the Brooklyn U.S. attorney's office,
said a criminal civil rights investigation into KCHC, which had
started earlier based on other complaints, will now also look at the
death.
A spokesman for the Brooklyn district attorney's office said any
suspected criminality referred to it by the Department of
Investigation would be prosecuted. A DOI spokeswoman said the agency
was "aware" of the incident."
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-nyment025749094jul02,0,4276078.story |
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| Twittering One... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:32 am |
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| robbielynn... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:55 am |
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On Jul 3, 10:32 am, Twittering One <mournenwo... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Got it. One of the questions asked was: where was her family?
Sick individuals need an advocate in a hospital, whether their
family member is in the emergency room or in a bed.
Didn't she have like 8 children. |
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| Twittering One... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:03 am |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:16 am |
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Kings County Death: NAMI Calls For Criminal Probe
Survey Shows Psychiatric Emergency Room Delays Are National Problem
Michael J. Fitzpatrick, executive director of the National Alliance on
Mental Illness (NAMI), the nation's largest grassroots organization
dedicated to improving the lives of individuals and families affected
by mental illnesses, has issued this statement:
"NAMI continues to monitor the callous treatment and tragic death of
Ms. Esmin Elizabeth Green while waiting for admission to the
psychiatric ward at Kings County Hospital in Brooklyn, N.Y.
It is a sad commentary that it took a tragedy of this nature to move
New York City's Health and Hospital's Corporation to immediately
settle a lawsuit that was filed a year ago to improve conditions at
the hospital.
Legal action should not stop there.
Criminal responsibility should be investigated.
Both state and federal authorities should take a close look not only
at the circumstances of Ms. Green's death, but also systemic issues
involving the hospital and potentially other parts of the city's
mental healthcare system. That includes staffing levels, training, and
availability of hospital beds.
The Kings County tragedy is not an isolated incident. Other tragedies
are waiting to happen in emergency rooms across the United States.
In 2008, the American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) released
a survey that indicates emergency psychiatric care is "extremely
limited" and "getting worse."
- Over 60 percent of psychiatric patients needing admission to a
hospital have to stay in the emergency department over 4 hours after a
decision to admit them hasbeen made.
- 33 percent wait over 8 hours; 6 percent over 24 hours.
.. 62 percent of emergency department medical directors indicated there
are no psychiatric services for patient care while patients are
boarded prior to admission or transfer.
- 89 percent transfer psychiatric patients every week to other
facilities due to unavailable psychiatric beds at their hospitals.
In 2003, New York was forced to confront a scandal involving adult
homes for people living with mental illness. In other states, the U.S.
Department of Justice has been forced to launch investigations.
Nationwide, we face a mental healthcare system in crisis-which on
average gets no better than a "D" grade. It is time for investment and
transformation of the mental healthcare system at all levels."
http://www.nami.org
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| Linda... |
| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:24 pm |
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On Jul 6, 7:55 am, Twittering One <mournenwo... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote: New York home-town papers do not seem to be covering this story in
depth, especially the New York Times, which has provided the least
coverage and follow-up.
NY Times is one of several US newspapers one can pick up at the local
newstand "everywhere".
NY Times global market saturation makes the NY Times the biggest
conduit for propagandist trash The Pathocracy has.
The NY Times will NOT overtly cover the news of this or any other
individual dying whilst lying-in-wait for an eternity in an american
ER waiting room because dying whilst lying-in-wait for an eternity in
an american ER waiting room is an everyday occurance in ER waiting
rooms all across America; therefore, it's not newsworthy.
What the NY Times will do is churn out Propagandist Trash such as it's
propagandist piece about the Milgram Study in which the incident is
weaved into it's propaganda in order to exploit the images flashed
around the world in service of the pathocracy's sinister agenda.
The local newspapers will cover the story to provide local pathocrats
a platform to grandstand about the firing the pathocrats involved,
and, their launching a criminal investigation, the latter of which
NEVER EVER happens.
The reason why a *criminal investigation* of the incident will never
take place is because there's absolutely nothing for the police to
investigate to begin with, since, the evidence of the commission of
the crime is all on tape. .
If anyone were going to be arrested, their arrest would have taken
place the nanosecond the police were furnished the tape, as the
police do anytime the police are furnished evidence of a crime
perpetrated by any individual who isn't employed by the pathocracy,
since the police work is all over and done with once the police
possess evidence of a crime, since, it's up to a judge or jury of
one's peers to decide the guilt or innocence of the perps, not the
police.
In circumstances where a pathocrat is caught "red-handed", the term
"criminal investigation" is a code word for no action is to be taken..
Once the dust settles, the unindicted criminals will be rewarded for
their having taking a hit in service of the agenda of the pathocracy
with a plum position at an employer of their choice.
Or alternatively, become one of the many phantoms receiving pension
benefits from one or another of the pathocracies (energy hedge fund
bloated) pension funds, since, the pathocracy always takes care of
it's own, never any of the people whom those pathocrats are employed
to teach, serve and protect, provide medical services to, put out
fires to save, etc..
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:32 am |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:28 am |
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Alan Aviles, president of the Health and Hospitals Corporation, which
oversees Kings County Hospital, said in a statement that new staff,
procedures and training since Green's death on June 19 would likely be
supplemented by further reforms.
"We failed Esmin Green and believe her family deserves fair and just
compensation," Aviles said. "HHC referred this matter to criminal
enforcement and regulatory authorities on June 20. We have been
cooperating and will continue to support any and all investigations."
The city Department of Investigation is examining the case with the
cooperation of the Health and Hospitals Corporation, said DOI
spokeswoman Dianne Struzzi. The Brooklyn district attorney's office is
also involved, and will decide whether to prosecute, Struzzi said. The
medical examiner's office has performed an autopsy and is doing
further tests to determine the cause of death.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyoCW83J5tuh5Dp75VzjbESAakVgD91PUGSG3 |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:46 am |
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Meanwhile in Los Angeles ...
The near simultaneous release of the two tapes may tempt some L.A.
County officials and King-Harbor advocates to seek comfort in the
knowledge that what happened here has occurred elsewhere. But a
comparison of the two incidents leaves little cause for comfort.
New York City attorneys quickly turned over to plaintiffs' attorneys
the videotape of Esmin Elizabeth Green's collapse at Kings County
Hospital Center. Los Angeles County, by contrast, refused to release
the security tape of Rodriguez, even to her family, arguing that it
was confidential.
The images of the horror, which took place on public premises and
involved hospital workers on the public payroll, are available to the
public only because they were sent anonymously to The Times a year
after Rodriguez's death.
The hospital may have closed, but the county's culture of secrecy
thrives and its suspicion of the public it supposedly serves remains
strong.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-ed-hospital7-2008jul07,0,1860545.story |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:21 am |
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From The Gadsen Times,
Gadsen, Alabama
Psychiatric care must improve
July 9, 2008
The image is stark.
A woman lying face down in the floor of a hospital emergency room, and
people stepping over and around her. A security guard gives her a
nudge with his foot, then walks on.
It took an hour for anyone to notice Esmin Elizabeth Green was dead.
And it was all captured on videotape at the Kings County Hospital
psychiatric emergency room in New York.
The hospital’s excuse — everyone was too busy to notice. The emergency
room is so busy, the waiting room so overcrowded, patients often sleep
wherever they can.
That’s not an excuse, it’s a symptom.
It’s a symptom of the nationwide failure of the medical community,
governments, law enforcement and society as a whole to fully address
the needs of those who have mental illnesses.
A psychiatric emergency room is designed to treat those in crisis. Yet
in Kings County Hospital — and facilities like it throughout the
nation — patients wait hours to be seen and evaluated. It is believed
Green had been waiting 24 hours before she died.
We’d like to say, “Oh, that’s New York, that wouldn’t happen here.”
Could it?
No hospital in the vicinity has a psychiatric emergency room, so that
scenario is unlikely.
What is more likely is that a person with a serious mental illness
such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder would go unnoticed and
untreated at all until he or she comes to the attention of law
enforcement.
Alabama is so underserved by mental health professionals that it can
take weeks to get an evaluation. If that evaluation shows no immediate
threat, it can take months to see a psychiatrist and be prescribed the
medications that can make the difference between going to work or
curling up in bed, unable to function in society.
Those months can mean the difference between life and death, or at
least life and a living death.
The National Alliance on Mental Illness grades each state on mental
health services.
The good news is Alabama scored above the national average in
infrastructure, earning a C to the national D. The state fell behind
the nation’s D with an F in access to information, below the nation’s D
+ to a D in services, and below the nation’s C- to a D- in recovery
support.
Providing better services will cost money. Legal movements such as
mental health parity, which would require insurance companies to cover
mental health services at the same rate as other services, could mean
higher premiums.
Building more and better psychiatric facilities, reforming the state’s
licensure process, bolstering the psychiatric programs at the state’s
teaching hospitals and providing better support services to those who
have been diagnosed with mental illnesses will cost taxpayer money.
But the state will save money in law enforcement. It could end up
saving in Medicaid and social services because people are able to
stabilize and work. Workplaces would see improved productivity if
employees were able to get better access to mental health care.
And the state could save lives.
That has to be worth it.
http://www.gadsdentimes.com/article/20080709/NEWS/999024609/1050/OPINION |
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