Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to
Protect Pharma Profits

www.naturalnews.com/023514.html

If vitamins and minerals [by themselves] cured any disorder or pain
then doctors would prescribe them.

I'll take science over the crap some people think they've discovered.

Why not take your belief to the Next Level? Try to promote some
cocktail of supplements and claim it can CURE cancer. I hope you do
this, maybe it will put the last nail in the coffin of crap you guys
spew.

Minerals, supplements do nothing to cure illnesses or pain, period.

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:53:48 -0700 (PDT), "ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com"
ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote this stuff here :



Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to
Protect Pharma Profits

www.naturalnews.com/023514.html

(NaturalNews) Big Pharma is constantly finding new ways to destroy the
natural supplements market, in much the same way that the American
Medical Association once sought to destroy the chiropractic industry
(for which it was later found guilty of conspiracy in U.S. courts, by
the way). The latest attack against vitamins comes from an FDA
petition filed by Medicure Pharma, Inc., which has astonishingly asked
the FDA to ban the sale of Vitamin B6!

Who loves ya.
Tom

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On Jun 26, 9:53 am, "ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com" <ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to
Protect Pharma Profits

www.naturalnews.com/023514.html

FDALawBlog gives the following less biased take:
Medicure Pharma submitted a citizen petition to FDA that asserts that
all dietary supplements containing pyridoxal 5’-phosphate (“P5P
supplements”) are adulterated under FDC Act § 402(f). The petition
asserts that P5P (a form of vitamin B6) is a new dietary ingredient
which has neither been present in the food supply as an article used
for food in a form in which the food has not been chemically altered,
nor has it been the subject of a new dietary ingredient notification.
The petition further asserts that those supplements were therefore not
lawfully marketed prior to the date on which the investigation of P5P
as a drug triggered the dietary supplement exclusionary clause in FDC
Act § 201(ff)(3)(B)(ii). The petition asks FDA to remove all P5P
supplements from the market, or in the alternative, to initiate
rulemaking under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) to exclude them from the
statutory definition of a dietary supplement. Medicure Pharma is
investigating a drug product under an Investigational New Drug
Application that contains P5P as its active ingredient, and the
company contends that marketing of P5P supplements undermines the
company’s incentive to continue developing its drug product.

The success or failure of the petition will turn on a few issues.
First, the petition contends that P5P is a new dietary ingredient
because it was not marketed before October 15, 1994. This is certain
to prompt a thorough search on the part of P5P supplement
manufacturers for evidence of marketing prior to that date. Second,
the petition contends that P5P has not been “present in the food
supply as an article used for food” within the meaning of FDC Act §
413(a)(1) because the presence of P5P in foods is “incidental.”
However, the Institute of Medicine recognizes that P5P is one of the
major forms of vitamin B6 in animal tissues, and that animal tissues
are a source of vitamin B6. Third, the petition contends that even
extensive marketing of a dietary supplement does not forestall
application of the dietary supplement exclusionary clause if the
supplement was marketed unlawfully. Although the petition acknowledges
that a plain reading of the exclusionary clause does not support this
view, the petition asks FDA to read the term “lawfully” (as in
“lawfully marketed”) into the exclusionary clause on the ground that
not doing so would yield absurd results. Finally, the petition
contends that, even if P5P is lawfully marketed as a dietary
supplement, FDA can prohibit any further marketing under section
201(ff)(3)(A) to help preserve incentives for new drug development. In
doing so, the petition fails to acknowledge that FDA’s rulemaking
authority under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) is tied to a finding of
adulteration under § 402(f), a finding that could be difficult to
support in the case of a form of vitamin B6.

--
Ron

Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to
Protect Pharma Profits

www.naturalnews.com/023514.html

(NaturalNews) Big Pharma is constantly finding new ways to destroy the
natural supplements market, in much the same way that the American
Medical Association once sought to destroy the chiropractic industry
(for which it was later found guilty of conspiracy in U.S. courts, by
the way). The latest attack against vitamins comes from an FDA
petition filed by Medicure Pharma, Inc., which has astonishingly asked
the FDA to ban the sale of Vitamin B6!


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

If vitamins and minerals [by themselves] cured any disorder or pain
then doctors would prescribe them.

while i am in agreement that there is much in need of change re the fda
and other gov offices as to how, why, and with whom they collaborate
in the decision making process of regulation and enforcement - this
bunch lobbies against virtually any proposal, regulation, or activity in
the name of 'protecting' the individual - all the while making an
extremely good living promoting their own products and services free
from the very same regulations that the pharmas have to abide by -
regulations that when applied fairly do help to protect the public good.


the website, naturenews, owned by a registered taiwanese corp - 'truth
publishing', with anonymous site registration, is situated outside the
usa 'specifically' for the purpose of not being under the jurisdiction
of any us fed or state laws

their own words:

"Furthermore, NaturalNews.com will never share its subscriber database
with any government agency such as the FDA. In fact, Truth Publishing
(the company that owns NaturalNews.com) operates outside the United
States and does not answer to U.S. authorities."


as to the statements, claims, or commentaries made - while they claim to
be so independent of advertising and the like -

in realty they are the creation of the supplement industry and the
primary listed editor/author is a guy named mike adams - easy to find
here in the states with seminars, books, etc.

while i have occasionally read an unbiased piece they've put out - the
overwhelming majority is so slanted it cannot be read as 'news' of any
sort -

the 'truth' of their publishing is that they don't want to be bothered
with having you know who they really are - while they write promoting a
very particular agenda of let us do whatever we want.

they are simply pushing product, no diff from the medical pharmas that
they rail against

their interest is in trying to protect themselves from
having to be regulated as to product purity,
efficacy as shown by studies and trials vs the 'claims' made
anecdotally,

Another blatant lie.

and, they sell a lot of their books as of result of the other website(s)

Ron Peterson wrote:

On Jun 26, 9:53 am, "ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com" <ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to
Protect Pharma Profits

www.naturalnews.com/023514.html

FDALawBlog gives the following less biased take:
Medicure Pharma submitted a citizen petition to FDA that asserts that
all dietary supplements containing pyridoxal 5'-phosphate ("P5P
supplements") are adulterated under FDC Act § 402(f). The petition
asserts that P5P (a form of vitamin B6) is a new dietary ingredient
which has neither been present in the food supply as an article used
for food in a form in which the food has not been chemically altered,
nor has it been the subject of a new dietary ingredient notification.
The petition further asserts that those supplements were therefore not
lawfully marketed prior to the date on which the investigation of P5P
as a drug triggered the dietary supplement exclusionary clause in FDC
Act § 201(ff)(3)(B)(ii). The petition asks FDA to remove all P5P
supplements from the market, or in the alternative, to initiate
rulemaking under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) to exclude them from the
statutory definition of a dietary supplement. Medicure Pharma is
investigating a drug product under an Investigational New Drug
Application that contains P5P as its active ingredient, and the
company contends that marketing of P5P supplements undermines the
company's incentive to continue developing its drug product.

The success or failure of the petition will turn on a few issues.
First, the petition contends that P5P is a new dietary ingredient
because it was not marketed before October 15, 1994. This is certain
to prompt a thorough search on the part of P5P supplement
manufacturers for evidence of marketing prior to that date. Second,
the petition contends that P5P has not been "present in the food
supply as an article used for food" within the meaning of FDC Act §
413(a)(1) because the presence of P5P in foods is "incidental."
However, the Institute of Medicine recognizes that P5P is one of the
major forms of vitamin B6 in animal tissues, and that animal tissues
are a source of vitamin B6. Third, the petition contends that even
extensive marketing of a dietary supplement does not forestall
application of the dietary supplement exclusionary clause if the
supplement was marketed unlawfully. Although the petition acknowledges
that a plain reading of the exclusionary clause does not support this
view, the petition asks FDA to read the term "lawfully" (as in
"lawfully marketed") into the exclusionary clause on the ground that
not doing so would yield absurd results. Finally, the petition
contends that, even if P5P is lawfully marketed as a dietary
supplement, FDA can prohibit any further marketing under section
201(ff)(3)(A) to help preserve incentives for new drug development. In
doing so, the petition fails to acknowledge that FDA's rulemaking
authority under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) is tied to a finding of
adulteration under § 402(f), a finding that could be difficult to
support in the case of a form of vitamin B6.

--
Ron

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:53:48 -0700 (PDT), "ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com"
ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com> wrote this stuff here :

Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to
Protect Pharma Profits

www.naturalnews.com/023514.html

(NaturalNews) Big Pharma is constantly finding new ways to destroy the
natural supplements market, in much the same way that the American
Medical Association once sought to destroy the chiropractic industry
(for which it was later found guilty of conspiracy in U.S. courts, by
the way). The latest attack against vitamins comes from an FDA
petition filed by Medicure Pharma, Inc., which has astonishingly asked
the FDA to ban the sale of Vitamin B6!


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

Many diseases result from no bad behaviors at all. Exactly what do you
suppose women DO in order to get breast cancer for example?

"Paul T. Holland" <pholland at (no spam) bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:4863FF8B.AC6AE374 at (no spam) bellatlantic.net...
while i am in agreement that there is much in need of change re the fda
and other gov offices as to how, why, and with whom they collaborate
in the decision making process of regulation and enforcement - this
bunch lobbies against virtually any proposal, regulation, or activity in
the name of 'protecting' the individual - all the while making an
extremely good living promoting their own products and services free
from the very same regulations that the pharmas have to abide by -
regulations that when applied fairly do help to protect the public good.


the website, naturenews, owned by a registered taiwanese corp - 'truth
publishing', with anonymous site registration, is situated outside the
usa 'specifically' for the purpose of not being under the jurisdiction
of any us fed or state laws

their own words:

"Furthermore, NaturalNews.com will never share its subscriber database
with any government agency such as the FDA. In fact, Truth Publishing
(the company that owns NaturalNews.com) operates outside the United
States and does not answer to U.S. authorities."


as to the statements, claims, or commentaries made - while they claim to
be so independent of advertising and the like -

in reality they are the creation of the supplement industry and the
primary listed editor/author is a guy named mike adams - easy to find
here in the states with seminars, books, etc.

Is that right? Please do show this *in reality*.

Mike Adams tells it like it is.

Period.


while i have occasionally read an unbiased piece they've put out - the
overwhelming majority is so slanted it cannot be read as 'news' of any
sort -

the 'truth' of their publishing is that they don't want to be bothered
with having you know who they really are - while they write promoting a
very particular agenda of let us do whatever we want.

Not so. Mike Adams's agenda is to tell the *truth* and expose organized
medicine,
Which includes Big Phrama, FDA, CDC, AMA, ADA, etc., and their lies.

they are simply pushing product, no diff from the medical pharmas that
they rail against

Blatant lie.

their interest is in trying to protect themselves from
having to be regulated as to product purity,
efficacy as shown by studies and trials vs the 'claims' made
anecdotally,

Another blatant lie.

and, they sell a lot of their books as of result of the other website(s)

Correct. So what?

Peter Bowditch posts his spam, books, things to sell and his many lies.

It is noted you have never mentioned that.

Ron Peterson wrote:

On Jun 26, 9:53 am, "ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com" <ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to
Protect Pharma Profits

www.naturalnews.com/023514.html

FDALawBlog gives the following less biased take:
Medicure Pharma submitted a citizen petition to FDA that asserts that
all dietary supplements containing pyridoxal 5'-phosphate ("P5P
supplements") are adulterated under FDC Act § 402(f). The petition
asserts that P5P (a form of vitamin B6) is a new dietary ingredient
which has neither been present in the food supply as an article used
for food in a form in which the food has not been chemically altered,
nor has it been the subject of a new dietary ingredient notification.
The petition further asserts that those supplements were therefore not
lawfully marketed prior to the date on which the investigation of P5P
as a drug triggered the dietary supplement exclusionary clause in FDC
Act § 201(ff)(3)(B)(ii). The petition asks FDA to remove all P5P
supplements from the market, or in the alternative, to initiate
rulemaking under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) to exclude them from the
statutory definition of a dietary supplement. Medicure Pharma is
investigating a drug product under an Investigational New Drug
Application that contains P5P as its active ingredient, and the
company contends that marketing of P5P supplements undermines the
company's incentive to continue developing its drug product.

The success or failure of the petition will turn on a few issues.
First, the petition contends that P5P is a new dietary ingredient
because it was not marketed before October 15, 1994. This is certain
to prompt a thorough search on the part of P5P supplement
manufacturers for evidence of marketing prior to that date. Second,
the petition contends that P5P has not been "present in the food
supply as an article used for food" within the meaning of FDC Act §
413(a)(1) because the presence of P5P in foods is "incidental."
However, the Institute of Medicine recognizes that P5P is one of the
major forms of vitamin B6 in animal tissues, and that animal tissues
are a source of vitamin B6. Third, the petition contends that even
extensive marketing of a dietary supplement does not forestall
application of the dietary supplement exclusionary clause if the
supplement was marketed unlawfully. Although the petition acknowledges
that a plain reading of the exclusionary clause does not support this
view, the petition asks FDA to read the term "lawfully" (as in
"lawfully marketed") into the exclusionary clause on the ground that
not doing so would yield absurd results. Finally, the petition
contends that, even if P5P is lawfully marketed as a dietary
supplement, FDA can prohibit any further marketing under section
201(ff)(3)(A) to help preserve incentives for new drug development. In
doing so, the petition fails to acknowledge that FDA's rulemaking
authority under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) is tied to a finding of
adulteration under § 402(f), a finding that could be difficult to
support in the case of a form of vitamin B6.

--
Ron

Pain can indeed be treated by supplements, but pain is a symptom of over
1000 disorders...

Instead of cure, how about prevention?

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On Jun 27, 6:09 pm, Always Learning <noPublicEm... at (no spam) this.time> wrote:

Many diseases result from no bad behaviors at all. Exactly what do you
suppose women DO in order to get breast cancer for example?

Women who postpone pregnancy past their teenage years are more likely
to get breast cancer.

jan