On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:07:37 -0700 (PDT), jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:



On Jun 27, 12:24 pm, New... at (no spam) bix.nex wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:10:49 -0500, Steven Fawks

tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:

Quitters never win.  Your absolutely right. I just got an email from
Jim and he already has an idea, so hes not giving up
yet either.  with the MRI go ahead,
i was thinking the end of the road was very near.

BTW, if I ever find out you are a troll, I may just hunt you down and
kick your ass.

;-)
Steve

Include me in.
You know how I luv to 'kick ass' !

;-)

just try not to get me in the jaw if possible.

Yer ass'ill be achin' an hurtin' so baad that yer jawin' will be
the least uv yer trubells.

Do truly despise a whiny assed biatch dat playz
"0 <yep, zero> woah is me".

Wash yer clothes, clean yer room, mow de lawn, make the bed,
throw out the trash...and quit feeling sorry for yourself.

Grow up.

If'n you want sympathy... call yer momma.

If you need a friend, buy a dog.

Howz dat fer tuff luv ? Eh ?

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:07:37 -0700 (PDT), jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:



On Jun 27, 12:24 pm, New... at (no spam) bix.nex wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:10:49 -0500, Steven Fawks

tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:

Quitters never win.  Your absolutely right. I just got an email from
Jim and he already has an idea, so hes not giving up
yet either.  with the MRI go ahead,
i was thinking the end of the road was very near.

BTW, if I ever find out you are a troll, I may just hunt you down and
kick your ass.

;-)
Steve

Include me in.
You know how I luv to 'kick ass' !

;-)

just try not to get me in the jaw if possible.

Yer ass'ill be achin' an hurtin' so baad that yer jawin' will be
the least uv yer trubells.

Do truly despise a whiny assed biatch dat playz
"0 <yep, zero> woah is me".

Wash yer clothes, clean yer room, mow de lawn, make the bed,
throw out the trash...and quit feeling sorry for yourself.

Grow up.

If'n you want sympathy... call yer momma.

If you need a friend, buy a dog.

Howz dat fer tuff luv ? Eh ?

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:07:37 -0700 (PDT), jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:



On Jun 27, 12:24 pm, New... at (no spam) bix.nex wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:10:49 -0500, Steven Fawks

tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:

Quitters never win.  Your absolutely right. I just got an email from
Jim and he already has an idea, so hes not giving up
yet either.  with the MRI go ahead,
i was thinking the end of the road was very near.

BTW, if I ever find out you are a troll, I may just hunt you down and
kick your ass.

;-)
Steve

Include me in.
You know how I luv to 'kick ass' !

;-)

just try not to get me in the jaw if possible.

Yer ass'ill be achin' an hurtin' so baad that yer jawin' will be
the least uv yer trubells.

Do truly despise a whiny assed biatch dat playz
"0 <yep, zero> woah is me".

Wash yer clothes, clean yer room, mow de lawn, make the bed,
throw out the trash...and quit feeling sorry for yourself.

Grow up.

If'n you want sympathy... call yer momma.

If you need a friend, buy a dog.

Howz dat fer tuff luv ? Eh ?

Better to have asked, "Did I do something right or wrong to cause your
speechlessness?"

Webby

No! Nothing 'wrong'. I was just struck by the whole affair.

Sorry to cause concern,
Steve

Better to have asked, "Did I do something right or wrong to cause your
speechlessness?"

Webby

I suppose we always learn more about each other the longer we
participate here ...

Thanks for the reply; I appreciate it.

Webby

In article <1214693732_56153 at (no spam) news.newsville.com>,
Steven Fawks <tuthjockey at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:


No! Nothing 'wrong'. I was just struck by the whole affair.

Sorry to cause concern,
Steve


Better to have asked, "Did I do something right or wrong to cause your
speechlessness?"

Webby

Not all hillbillies are without feeling.

Steve

I suppose we always learn more about each other the longer we
participate here ...

Thanks for the reply; I appreciate it.

Webby

In article <1214693732_56153 at (no spam) news.newsville.com>,
Steven Fawks <tuthjockey at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:


No! Nothing 'wrong'. I was just struck by the whole affair.

Sorry to cause concern,
Steve


Better to have asked, "Did I do something right or wrong to cause your
speechlessness?"

Webby

Jaw muscles are not designed to be used 24/7. The muscle hypertrophy is due
to overuse. What happens when you exercise a muscle group?   You then have
the desire/need to work the muscle more.  Until the muscle mass decreases,
you will still clench.

"jerm" <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1aea800b-2f3e-46a9-a64c-63ef857fa4b5 at (no spam) v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 26, 11:10 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

In article
tmjiatroepidemic-365840.08331626062... at (no spam) news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

"They" used to say, "TMJ" people don't want to get well; they just want
to prove that they can't. Well, I'm wondering if much of anything has
really changed over all these years.

I know things have changed. I shouldn't have written that. But there
seems to be a whole new crop of people who keep the old attitudes alive
and thriving.

Webby

Hey this is kind of off topic, but I had a doctor notice something
that ive been wondering about myself. On the
side of my jaw that gives me the most trouble, all the muscle along
the side of my neck are all much bigger than the
other side. its like the one side lifts weights and the other sits on
the couch. Anyways, not NTI related, just curious since the doc didnt
have an answer.

In article
tmjiatroepidemic-365840.08331626062... at (no spam) news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

"They" used to say, "TMJ" people don't want to get well; they just want
to prove that they can't. Well, I'm wondering if much of anything has
really changed over all these years.

I know things have changed. I shouldn't have written that. But there
seems to be a whole new crop of people who keep the old attitudes alive
and thriving.

Webby

Jaw muscles are not designed to be used 24/7. The muscle hypertrophy is
due
to overuse. What happens when you exercise a muscle group? You then have
the desire/need to work the muscle more. Until the muscle mass decreases,
you will still clench.

"jerm" <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1aea800b-2f3e-46a9-a64c-63ef857fa4b5 at (no spam) v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 26, 11:10 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

In article
tmjiatroepidemic-365840.08331626062... at (no spam) news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

"They" used to say, "TMJ" people don't want to get well; they just
want
to prove that they can't. Well, I'm wondering if much of anything has
really changed over all these years.

I know things have changed. I shouldn't have written that. But there
seems to be a whole new crop of people who keep the old attitudes alive
and thriving.

Webby

Hey this is kind of off topic, but I had a doctor notice something
that ive been wondering about myself. On the
side of my jaw that gives me the most trouble, all the muscle along
the side of my neck are all much bigger than the
other side. its like the one side lifts weights and the other sits on
the couch. Anyways, not NTI related, just curious since the doc didnt
have an answer.

And, which of the treatments you have been offered target muscle activity?

--
/

Amatus

/"jerm" <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Jun 29, 8:58 am, "Amatus Cremona" <nicola at (no spam) ..amanti.com> wrote:

Jaw muscles are not designed to be used 24/7. The muscle hypertrophy is
due
to overuse. What happens when you exercise a muscle group? You then have
the desire/need to work the muscle more. Until the muscle mass decreases,
you will still clench.

   I thought it was strange that it was one sided along the scm, like
maybe it was all in spasm on that side.



"jerm" <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1aea800b-2f3e-46a9-a64c-63ef857fa4b5 at (no spam) v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 26, 11:10 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

In article
tmjiatroepidemic-365840.08331626062... at (no spam) news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

"They" used to say, "TMJ" people don't want to get well; they just
want
to prove that they can't. Well, I'm wondering if much of anything has
really changed over all these years.

I know things have changed. I shouldn't have written that. But there
seems to be a whole new crop of people who keep the old attitudes alive
and thriving.

Webby

Hey this is kind of off topic, but I had a doctor notice something
that ive been wondering about myself. On the
side of my jaw that gives me the most trouble, all the muscle along
the side of my neck are all much bigger than the
other side. its like the one side lifts weights and the other sits on
the couch. Anyways, not NTI related, just curious since the doc didnt
have an answer.

On Jun 30, 12:47 pm, "Amatus Cremona" <Nic... at (no spam) sottovocce.com> wrote:

And, which of the treatments you have been offered target muscle activity?

--
/
I suppose the NTI and maybe some drugs ive been prescribed like zanaflex and neurontin that didnt seem to do much. Well, the neurontin I wasnt on long enough to tell, and the zanaflex didnt do much of anything. I did have the MRI on friday and had the reports sent to Dr. Boyd,Im guessing his opinion of the report should be the only one to be concerned with. Thanks.
Amatus

/"jerm" <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:02eed9f9-db97-4f5e-b2e5-49c555dbb1bd at (no spam) s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com....
On Jun 29, 8:58 am, "Amatus Cremona" <nicola at (no spam) ..amanti.com> wrote:

Jaw muscles are not designed to be used 24/7. The muscle hypertrophy is
due
to overuse. What happens when you exercise a muscle group? You then have
the desire/need to work the muscle more. Until the muscle mass decreases,
you will still clench.

   I thought it was strange that it was one sided along the scm, like
maybe it was all in spasm on that side.

"jerm" <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1aea800b-2f3e-46a9-a64c-63ef857fa4b5 at (no spam) v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com....
On Jun 26, 11:10 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

In article
tmjiatroepidemic-365840.08331626062... at (no spam) news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

"They" used to say, "TMJ" people don't want to get well; they just
want
to prove that they can't. Well, I'm wondering if much of anything has
really changed over all these years.

I know things have changed. I shouldn't have written that. But there
seems to be a whole new crop of people who keep the old attitudes alive
and thriving.

Webby

Hey this is kind of off topic, but I had a doctor notice something
that ive been wondering about myself. On the
side of my jaw that gives me the most trouble, all the muscle along
the side of my neck are all much bigger than the
other side. its like the one side lifts weights and the other sits on
the couch. Anyways, not NTI related, just curious since the doc didnt
have an answer.

On Jun 30, 8:24 pm, jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Jun 30, 12:47 pm, "Amatus Cremona" <Nic... at (no spam) sottovocce.com> wrote:

And, which of the treatments you have been offered target muscle activity?

--
/
                  I suppose the NTI and maybe some drugs ive been prescribed like zanaflex and neurontin that didnt seem to do much. Well, the neurontin I wasnt  on long enough to tell, and the zanaflex didnt do much of anything.  I did have the MRI on friday and had the reports sent to Dr. Boyd,Im guessing his opinion of the report should be the only one to be concerned with. Thanks.
Amatus

/"jerm" <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:02eed9f9-db97-4f5e-b2e5-49c555dbb1bd at (no spam) s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com....
On Jun 29, 8:58 am, "Amatus Cremona" <nicola at (no spam) ..amanti.com> wrote:

Jaw muscles are not designed to be used 24/7. The muscle hypertrophy is
due
to overuse. What happens when you exercise a muscle group? You then have
the desire/need to work the muscle more. Until the muscle mass decreases,
you will still clench.

   I thought it was strange that it was one sided along the scm, like
maybe it was all in spasm on that side.

"jerm" <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1aea800b-2f3e-46a9-a64c-63ef857fa4b5 at (no spam) v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 26, 11:10 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

In article
tmjiatroepidemic-365840.08331626062... at (no spam) news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

"They" used to say, "TMJ" people don't want to get well; they just
want
to prove that they can't. Well, I'm wondering if much of anything has
really changed over all these years.

I know things have changed. I shouldn't have written that. But there
seems to be a whole new crop of people who keep the old attitudes alive
and thriving.

Webby

Hey this is kind of off topic, but I had a doctor notice something
that ive been wondering about myself. On the
side of my jaw that gives me the most trouble, all the muscle along
the side of my neck are all much bigger than the
other side. its like the one side lifts weights and the other sits on
the couch. Anyways, not NTI related, just curious since the doc didnt
have an answer.

Continued spasms.............. ?? it depends on your body, and what you do
with it.

I guess my body is still clenching at night i guess.
Will the NTI help regardless.................. ?? What do you think, if the
appliance reduces muscle activity?
--
hard to say, i guess im wondering if things could still

/

Amatus

/

  So, if the mri shows that I do have some kind of pathology,that is
"maybe" behind my troubles, shouldnt the NTI still be able to help?  Also,
at 6 1/2
weeks should I still be in spasm with headache pain daily?