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Neal...
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:49 pm
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I don't understand why the speed limits have not been lowered like they were
back in the '70s. I read about offshore drilling and can't help but wonder
why not lower the speed limits to save fuel.

I know just from our brief experiences with a couple of cars, it is not hard
to save fuel. Martha got 35 mpg on a 500 mile trip a couple of weeks ago.
That was on her '99 Toyota Camry. I will normally get about 28 from the
same car, driving 75-80 mph. I got 24 mpg out of my Toyota Highlander by
slowing down just a little last week when we went on a fishing trip. I
slowed down to 70 mph on the interstate and 65 mph on the state roads. Not
a major slowdown, but enough to show about 4 mpg difference.

Anyone else have any thoughts on a national lower speed limit? It just
seems to me that if everyone slowed down, the fuel savings would be
significant.

Neal
Susan Mitchell...
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:59 pm
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It's a good idea but you'd get killed around here. They drive 85-90 on I-5
(traffic allowing) and will run you down for going the speed limit as it is.
They say they ticket for changing lanes in and out but I've never seen it
and they tailgate and honk if you go the posted speed limit. It is a given
you better drive at least 5 over to save your life!

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"Neal" <nealbrown1 at (no spam) msn.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I don't understand why the speed limits have not been lowered like they
were back in the '70s. I read about offshore drilling and can't help but
wonder why not lower the speed limits to save fuel.

I know just from our brief experiences with a couple of cars, it is not
hard to save fuel. Martha got 35 mpg on a 500 mile trip a couple of weeks
ago. That was on her '99 Toyota Camry. I will normally get about 28 from
the same car, driving 75-80 mph. I got 24 mpg out of my Toyota Highlander
by slowing down just a little last week when we went on a fishing trip. I
slowed down to 70 mph on the interstate and 65 mph on the state roads.
Not a major slowdown, but enough to show about 4 mpg difference.

Anyone else have any thoughts on a national lower speed limit? It just
seems to me that if everyone slowed down, the fuel savings would be
significant.

Neal
Neal...
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:05 pm
Guest
I had chided Martha a bit for her driving the speed limit in town. I told
her, on the interstate especially, it was best to "go with the flow" of
traffic, rather than obey the speed limit.

Yesterday, when I got this nice letter in the mail with two pictures of the
back of my Highlander and a fine for driving 55 in a 45 mph construction
zone, I started to rethink my previous statement. Ten miles an hour over
the speed limit cost me $74.00!!!!

Neal

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It's a good idea but you'd get killed around here. They drive 85-90 on I-5
(traffic allowing) and will run you down for going the speed limit as it
is. They say they ticket for changing lanes in and out but I've never seen
it and they tailgate and honk if you go the posted speed limit. It is a
given you better drive at least 5 over to save your life!

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Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!
"Neal" <nealbrown1 at (no spam) msn.com> wrote in message
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I don't understand why the speed limits have not been lowered like they
were back in the '70s. I read about offshore drilling and can't help but
wonder why not lower the speed limits to save fuel.

I know just from our brief experiences with a couple of cars, it is not
hard to save fuel. Martha got 35 mpg on a 500 mile trip a couple of
weeks ago. That was on her '99 Toyota Camry. I will normally get about
28 from the same car, driving 75-80 mph. I got 24 mpg out of my Toyota
Highlander by slowing down just a little last week when we went on a
fishing trip. I slowed down to 70 mph on the interstate and 65 mph on
the state roads. Not a major slowdown, but enough to show about 4 mpg
difference.

Anyone else have any thoughts on a national lower speed limit? It just
seems to me that if everyone slowed down, the fuel savings would be
significant.

Neal


Anne V....
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:05 pm
Guest
My BF got one of those for running a red light. They're pretty hard to
dispute!

Anne

"Neal" <nealbrown1 at (no spam) msn.com> wrote in message
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I had chided Martha a bit for her driving the speed limit in town. I told
her, on the interstate especially, it was best to "go with the flow" of
traffic, rather than obey the speed limit.

Yesterday, when I got this nice letter in the mail with two pictures of
the back of my Highlander and a fine for driving 55 in a 45 mph
construction zone, I started to rethink my previous statement. Ten miles
an hour over the speed limit cost me $74.00!!!!

Neal

"Susan Mitchell" <medlawtrans at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote in message
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It's a good idea but you'd get killed around here. They drive 85-90 on
I-5 (traffic allowing) and will run you down for going the speed limit as
it is. They say they ticket for changing lanes in and out but I've never
seen it and they tailgate and honk if you go the posted speed limit. It
is a given you better drive at least 5 over to save your life!

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!
"Neal" <nealbrown1 at (no spam) msn.com> wrote in message
news:6cb258F3fo033U1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net...
I don't understand why the speed limits have not been lowered like they
were back in the '70s. I read about offshore drilling and can't help but
wonder why not lower the speed limits to save fuel.

I know just from our brief experiences with a couple of cars, it is not
hard to save fuel. Martha got 35 mpg on a 500 mile trip a couple of
weeks ago. That was on her '99 Toyota Camry. I will normally get about
28 from the same car, driving 75-80 mph. I got 24 mpg out of my Toyota
Highlander by slowing down just a little last week when we went on a
fishing trip. I slowed down to 70 mph on the interstate and 65 mph on
the state roads. Not a major slowdown, but enough to show about 4 mpg
difference.

Anyone else have any thoughts on a national lower speed limit? It just
seems to me that if everyone slowed down, the fuel savings would be
significant.

Neal




Barbara Carlson...
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:17 pm
Guest
Simple answer--Time is money, and convenience, and extra sleep.
Drove to Orlando and back yesterday. Would definitely have saved gas if I
only went 55 because I wouldn't have gone (Saluki Club Meeting).

I have a 2-year-old Pontiac Vibe. I have tested it. Best mileage we ever
got on it was 36 mpg (what they rate it at) on turnpike at 70--well keeping
it less that 10 miles over. We have gone shorter turnpike distances keeping
the speed about 60 and did not do as well. Don't know why. I get from 28
to 31 mpg driving around town with stop streets and red lights and stuck in
traffic everywhere. Can't even do the speed limit there--it is 45 mph on
Route 1, and unless you do it at perhaps 2:00 a.m. you are not going to go
anywhere near that.

Barb C.
"Neal" <nealbrown1 at (no spam) msn.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I don't understand why the speed limits have not been lowered like they
were back in the '70s. I read about offshore drilling and can't help but
wonder why not lower the speed limits to save fuel.

I know just from our brief experiences with a couple of cars, it is not
hard to save fuel. Martha got 35 mpg on a 500 mile trip a couple of weeks
ago. That was on her '99 Toyota Camry. I will normally get about 28 from
the same car, driving 75-80 mph. I got 24 mpg out of my Toyota Highlander
by slowing down just a little last week when we went on a fishing trip. I
slowed down to 70 mph on the interstate and 65 mph on the state roads.
Not a major slowdown, but enough to show about 4 mpg difference.

Anyone else have any thoughts on a national lower speed limit? It just
seems to me that if everyone slowed down, the fuel savings would be
significant.

Neal
Gisele...
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:32 am
Guest
These are all great suggestions. If gas prices continue to rise, I
think you will see more people doing them. I too have been guilty of
driving around with 20 pounds of cat litter in my trunk, but not
anymore!

Gisele


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Anne V....
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:34 am
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I would think that accelerating and then coasting would use more gas rather
than save it. At least, I was taught it was most fuel efficient to keep the
speed steady and not to keep pressing and then letting off the accelerator.

Anne

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There are other techniques to save on gas, or so I've heard. One is
to coast as much as possible after stepping on the gas for a bit. I
tried that recently on back roads, but I don't think drivers on busier
city streets would go for this.

Another was to keep the vehicles as light as possible. That means
removing heavy items from the trunk (I had Richard take out the 20
pounds of cat litter last week from hatchback) and not having an empty
bike rack on the top of the car. Oh yes, there was also something
about having the proper pressure in the tires.

Do any of you have other tips on saving gas? Blue Satyr's tank is
still almost full, but she will be needing more gas probably in
August.

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RaeMorrill...
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:06 pm
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No, the coasting will actually work, I think. These hypermilers use all
kinds of drastic stuff and get high mileage - some of itis dangerous.

I'm not sure coasting, i.e., intermittent use of gas pedal, on level
ground would be as good as coasting down hills. In the manual
transmissing, taking the car out of gear into neutral reduces the engine
speed below what just taking foot off the gas will do and depending on
the road, you can coast a good long way at a good speed. Planning ahead
would help because if you see the light is goig to change, you can get
to it with foot off the gas.


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Anne V....
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:23 pm
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I guess I wasn't thinking of hills--that makes more sense. It's so flat
here, I'm starting to forget what hills look like!

Anne

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No, the coasting will actually work, I think. These hypermilers use all
kinds of drastic stuff and get high mileage - some of itis dangerous.

I'm not sure coasting, i.e., intermittent use of gas pedal, on level
ground would be as good as coasting down hills. In the manual
transmissing, taking the car out of gear into neutral reduces the engine
speed below what just taking foot off the gas will do and depending on
the road, you can coast a good long way at a good speed. Planning ahead
would help because if you see the light is goig to change, you can get
to it with foot off the gas.


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RaeMorrill...
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:09 pm
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LOL. Anne. Well, our truck shows you instant mileage as you drive. I can
coast down a hill and be getting maybe 50 or 60 MPG. If I put it in
neutral it can go up to 99 (I suspect it won't read any higher). Don't
really like doing this with automatic transmission. There is one spot
coming toward our house where if you hit about 60 as you crest a hill,
you can put it in neutral, coasting for nearly two miles, including the
turn onto our road, which takes away momentum because you need to brake
to take the turn safely, but then we can coast a good way to almost top
of another rise, give it a little gas, then coast nearly to our
driveway. Mostly just for the fun of it, but the higher the gas prices
to, the more serious it gets!

I've been turning the furnace off most of the day - it only heats hot
water during summer time. I figure no need for it to keep it hot when I
don't need it, and it only takes maybe 5 minutes to get up to temp for
shower.


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Susan Mitchell...
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:36 pm
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No, drive like Nascar, get real close and draft! :)

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No, the coasting will actually work, I think. These hypermilers use all
kinds of drastic stuff and get high mileage - some of itis dangerous.

I'm not sure coasting, i.e., intermittent use of gas pedal, on level
ground would be as good as coasting down hills. In the manual
transmissing, taking the car out of gear into neutral reduces the engine
speed below what just taking foot off the gas will do and depending on
the road, you can coast a good long way at a good speed. Planning ahead
would help because if you see the light is goig to change, you can get
to it with foot off the gas.


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RaeMorrill...
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:03 pm
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Susan, that's one of the things I think they demonstrated on TV as
dangerous. LOL. I think those guys on that show that does crazy stuff to
see if it is possible - name eludes me at the moment - tried it under
controlled conditions. It works, apparently, but you have to be so close
behind the truck if they hit the brakes you are going to run right under
them.


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Ed Chait...
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:49 pm
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The way Martha gets honked at for driving slow, I doubt that many people
will modify their driving habits without some kind of a law. I have
noticed, however, that many people do seem to be driving slower, so it
very well may be to save gas.

Here are some easy gas-saving tips.

Tire pressure is very important. Have it checked or check it yourself
monthly. There is always a tag or sticker on the inside of the driver's
door frame showing the proper inflation.

Smooth and easy acceleration is best. Learn to use your tach. Martha
looks at hers now for the first time, and gets the transmission to shift
sooner.

If you have a 5-speed transmission, drive in 4th gear in town when driving
below 45 mph. This puts the engine in it's best power range, which is
also the best economy range.

Shut off your engine when waiting in line at the bank, drive-in, etc.
Modern fuel-injected cars use less gas starting than they do idling.

Change your engine air filter often. Buy your own filter. It is an easy
do-it-yourself project, just a couple of snaps.

Anybody else?

Neal


Anticipate stops and get off the accelerator as soon as possible so you can
coast all the way to the next stop.

The brake pedal is just as bad an enemy as the accelerator when you're
trying to save gas.

Driving to save gas is all about energy conservation. Accelerate gently,
anticipate your next stop, and coast as far as you can without getting back
on the gas or using the brakes to scrub off speed.

On the highway, use your cruise control as much as possible as a steady
speed will use less gas. Also, if you set it even 5 mph less than usual,
you will get significantly better mileage.

The more extreme measures such as turning your engine off on downhills or
after getting up to speed are unsafe and illegal.

ed
Ed Chait...
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:51 pm
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No, drive like Nascar, get real close and draft! Smile


Drafting a semi is very fuel efficient, but you have to be way closer than
the suggested one car length per 10 mph and the truck drivers seldom
appreciate that:).

ed
Susan Mitchell...
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:07 pm
Guest
Exactly, hence the smiley face. There actually are folks that do tailgate
like that around here if you drive the speed limit. Ran into one on a back
road by the park the other day where the speed limit is 25 and he was right
on my tail.

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Susan, that's one of the things I think they demonstrated on TV as
dangerous. LOL. I think those guys on that show that does crazy stuff to
see if it is possible - name eludes me at the moment - tried it under
controlled conditions. It works, apparently, but you have to be so close
behind the truck if they hit the brakes you are going to run right under
them.


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